Greetings,
My thunderbolt was experiencing random reboots since the OTA and now has a new problem it will shut itself off randomly. I'm stock and am getting really frustrated. Anyone else experiencing these issues? I really don't want to get an Assurion referb from Verizon as a replacement or send mine off to be serviced. Anyone else with this problem? I have tried turning LTE on and off with LTE switch from the market and also have tried enabling Rev A with the ##778# edit menus.
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My T-Bolt has turned itself off twice now, while on the charger. Missed my morning alarms and showed up to work late. Unlike my D1, the alarm does not sound when the phone is off.
T-bolt turns itself off after OTA update
My T-bolt turned itself off during the first night, after the OTA update. Had full battery charge. Completely stock. No problems since (Keeping fingers crossed). Will report back if it happens again. Would also like to hear of others having this problem.
after the latest update, ive been experiencing the SMS problem (cant send out has to reboot it again), and randomly shut off
Or is it just my thunderbolt?
I have had the same problem, Couple of reboots and missed my alarms for work one day as well since it turned itself off. I never had a reboot on custom roms until i updated my radio to this new OTA radio. Hopefully this new radio from the gingerbread radio that leaked will work better. if not anyone know if flashing the old radio on top of the new one will take me back to my old setup?
Stock, not rooted, no issues until update. Now phone reboots and drops data. Anyway to get back to original software?
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I am rooted, but I am also experiencing random shutdowns of my phone. The battery is not dead. The phone does not restart itself, but simply shuts itself off, without even trying to come back on.
I never got an OTA. My phone reboots and I missed class bcause it powered off while plugged in one night too. It powers off at least 3 times a week.. Totally stock excapt for launcher pro...
Just had this problem last night. Up until now i have only had the reboots, but last i went to pick up my phone and it was off. Of course i thought it was dead until it turned on, lol.
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same thing has happened twice to me -- luckily i wake up early on work days regardless of the alarm....
Most random reboots are caused by the newer LTE radio (1.13.605.7)...Seems to be exactly that too...random...some have issues some don't. I think it has to do with location/network in the area. I would get random reboots until I downgraded the LTE radio to 1.12.605.6 of course this requires the phone to be rooted. Good luck!
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First off I want to start by saying I have flashed my rom to Bamf 1.5 remix. I do not overclock my phone however I have tried limiting my clockspeed hoping to prevent a reboot. The phone did not start the random reboot until I flashed to said rom. I have tried reflashing but no improvements, any ideas?
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It has happened to me but I believe it just me OCing, flashing back to the kernel that I was using before when my phone was stable and testing it out. If not, I will just go back to 1.5
Also, does anyone know how to edit the power control widgets in the pulldown? I can't find any options. Thanks.
Did you flash the new radio when you loaded up BAMF 1.5?
If so, there's your problem
Happened to me with BAMF 1.6 and leankernel 192X, but only when I set it to ondemandX thru SETCPU. Other than that I've had no reboots.
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Did you flash the new radio when you loaded up BAMF 1.5?
If so, there's your problem
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yeah its pretty common for people who flashed the new radio to have reboots. i have had some of those issues, i found that using different kernels at different clocking speeds made my phone more stable. NOTE: i am not a pro, just something i noticed.
What's really behind all the random reboots?
OK... So I've tried just about every rom on the dev thread, I purchased the TB on launch date and had it rooted as soon as Jcase posted S-off instructions... I am now on the new radio and until today, I haven't had a single random reboot. Then all of a sudden, just about an hour ago, as I'm backing out of Tapatalk, bam... Phone rebooted itself...
Now I've been reading on just about every rom thread where people have been experiencing random reboots. Some think the new radio is the cause, but some people are on the new radio and have not experienced this. Others on the old radio still get random reboots.
Others think its the rom but people have noted this issue on most If not all of the rom threads.
Others think its the kernel that's causing it, but again, there doesn't seem to be any pattern to nail it down to a single kernel. Furthermore, some of these people are not OCing, myself included.
Which leads me to the strangest part of all this. My wife also has the TB. Her phone is totally stock and is not rooted. I got it for her day after launch and for the last few weeks, her phone has also been randomly rebooting. Not constantly, mind you. Just enough to be a nuisance. She has still not updated to OTA... The only suspect to this is that this appears to have started after the 4G outage a few weeks ago... And we are in a 3G only area but there was a day or so we could only connect to 1x...
So what's really causing these random reboots? I'm no expert, never claimed to be one, but is it possible that something going on between our phones and the Verizon network is causing this?
Thoughts... Ideas...?
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Great post. It's good to know even non rooted users are having reboots.
non-rooted.... Updated yesterday... and got a reboot today.
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I've had about six lock ups and reboots today since ehrpd has been back up
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I have had a few reboots across a few different rom, radio, and kernal combos. The only thing that all my reboots have had in common was I had GPS enabled. Ive yet to see a reboot with it off. Could just be a coincidence.
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I have had a few reboots across a few different rom, radio, and kernal combos. The only thing that all my reboots have had in common was I had GPS enabled. Ive yet to see a reboot with it off. Could just be a coincidence.
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GPS was also on when my phone rebooted... Google Maps was running.
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stock rom, not rooted, has had multiple random reboots
I have had no random reboots, or none that I have personally experienced. I figured if my phone was randomly rebooting I would have noticed a considerable battery drain. I have not noticed that yet. I honestly think that this might be an issue for people with little to no 4g coverage. I am bothered that this has not been addressed yet by verizon as I have seen so many people complain about this.
Hopefully I dont get these either, who knows may it is just phones that are may be defective hardware wise.
Well i just wanted to drop my $.02
I am Rooted and have been just about the same time the OP has been rooted.
I USED to have reboots. I install the full RUU and had reboots i also installed just the RADIO file and had reboots. I also reverted back to stock by the RUU provided by JCase. I Then flashed 1.6 followed 1.6.3 and have not had any problems. I assume that those 2 already had the radio file in them and i didn't not have to flash anything additional. Since being on 1.6 then 1.6.3 i have experienced not 1 reboot. Unless i did it myself.
I did notice then before when i did have the reboots (when i manually flashed RUU or just the RADIO file). I had reboots 3 different ways. I would either get a reboot when my phone had been sitting next to me for a while i would notice the white screen and know it was a reboot. Also the 2 other times was backing out of TapaTalk or native browser/dolphin HD.
So i don't know if that is in a way related. I just don't have them anymore.
I noticed that whenever my phone would reboot (on the leaked radio only,) I had a weak 3g signal. I watched this happen several times. My guess would be the people who aren't having reboots are in an area where they constantly have a good signal. Can anyone else corroborate this?
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I have had a few reboots across a few different rom, radio, and kernal combos. The only thing that all my reboots have had in common was I had GPS enabled. Ive yet to see a reboot with it off. Could just be a coincidence.
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This is a possibility... But if that's the case this will be the first Android device I've owned that has rebooted itself randomly due to GPS. Even the Samsung Vibrant, which had horrible GPS right out of the box, didn't reboot itself when it was turned on...
However, if this is the case, why has this only become a recent issue.. now my memory isn't so good... But I don't remember seeing much about this issue on rom threads until recently... I.e the past few weeks... Neither my wife's nor my phone randomly rebooted until just a few weeks ago, and we both have our GPS turned on everyday, all day...
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I noticed that whenever my phone would reboot (on the leaked radio only,) I had a weak 3g signal. I watched this happen several times. My guess would be the people who aren't having reboots are in an area where they constantly have a good signal. Can anyone else corroborate this?
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I live in a strong 3G area and my phone has never re-booted itself as far as I know. I'm doing the update tomorrow and will be interested to see if the problem starts.....I hope not.
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I noticed that whenever my phone would reboot (on the leaked radio only,) I had a weak 3g signal. I watched this happen several times. My guess would be the people who aren't having reboots are in an area where they constantly have a good signal. Can anyone else corroborate this?
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Unfortunately, I had a solid signal when my phone rebooted this afternoon. I was a stone's throw from Philadelphia on I-95. I've never had signal issues along I-95 between New York and Philadelphia. I'm running the released update.
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I noticed that whenever my phone would reboot (on the leaked radio only,) I had a weak 3g signal. I watched this happen several times. My guess would be the people who aren't having reboots are in an area where they constantly have a good signal. Can anyone else corroborate this?
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This as well is a possibility... Although I am in an area where 3g is strong... I have seen on my and my wife's phone... Even when standing still... That the 3g icon will vanish and come back seconds later...I am in a decent sized college town, population of about 70000... I couldn't say how strong 3g actually is but its everywhere in the city limits... And most of the countryside...
I have traveled to cities with strong 4g but I didnt stand around long enough in a single place to really watch the phone to see if it was dropping data...
Thanks for the constructive input, everyone... Lets keep the corroboration going and see if we can find a pattern..
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The only time I had reboot was on the leaked ruu which is now the OTA.
Once I went to BAMF 1.5 with new radio and new base no reboot. About a week ago I flashed back to stock radio just to compare after being on the new one for a while. I see nothing different between them really.
Okay so how many of you were thinking this was the update that would make the Thunderbolt better? Let me know of any issues you have been having since the update yesterday. I am speaking of the official non rooted update for the phone fyi.. So far I have compiled a list below of the issues I have experienced personally on my phone.
1. Randomly rebooting
2. Dropped calls and random reboots during calls
3. Gps issues still prevalent
4. Freezes while opening text messages or closing them
5. Noticeable lag when in app menu
If you guys have any other issues please post them and if there is a way to rollback the update without root please post.
Just updated last night and right away I notice I get no GPS lock at all (unless it takes 15+ min). No reboots yet.
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Yes I have noticed too that gps searches forever..
Yea, mine has rebooted twice since yesterday also. I'll have to try GPS later today. As for the rest of those complaints, I'm not sure. Weren't they supposed to fix the car mode thing? There's still no way to get to car mode unless you use the one search function.
I updated last night and had a few reboots this morning while using the hotspot. I just tested the gps with the GPS Status app and got a lock in my livingroom in 11secs. My gps has always worked good, but it seems to be locking a good bit quicker.
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I'm also getting reboots and during calls also and GPS is no longer locking. Anything i can do about this?
I just used GPS Status and got a lock almost instantly. W/o it I wasn't able to get a lock at all.
Edit: GPS Status did not fix my lock problem. Worked once however I can't get a lock anymore :/
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For anyone who is not rooted and getting random reboots, please call VZW support and voice your problem.
They obviously were not reading this forum when half the people with the leaked RUU were getting reboots.
VZW won't issue a hotfix unless people call up and complain and/or start returning phones.
My problem is with phone being idle the battery drains quicker. Before I would lose between 1-3% every hour, now its more like 6-7%. When I check battery use details Android system uses between 60-70% when prior to update it was in single digits.
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bunklung said:
For anyone who is not rooted and getting random reboots, please call VZW support and voice your problem.
They obviously were not reading this forum when half the people with the leaked RUU were getting reboots.
VZW won't issue a hotfix unless people call up and complain and/or start returning phones.
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I talked to tech. support and was told a small percentage of Thunderbolts were experiencing these problems. As w/ every problem I'm being sent another "like-new" phone.
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From what I have read, the issue is not with Thunderbolts, It's with the towers you're communicating with. The towers need their software fixed to work correctly with the new RUU. If you guys can, I'd wait it out and see if it gets better. I understand that a random reboot can be a huge deal (I came from a Storm 1) but if it is not wrecking your day or costing you business/clients/money etc., wait a week and see. It can be easier than trying to go through all of the set-up again to get your "new" phone the way you want.
6 reboots yestsrday. 10% battery drain each. Do the math kids. My tb isn't much more than a land line now because it's always plugged in. Returning it for sure. And they just sent me a new battery because I was only getting 5 hours max out of it.
I have had the update for a few hours now and non stop use on the phone so far no crashes or reboots. Phone is not rooted and not using any custom roms. So far so good
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My problem is with phone being idle the battery drains quicker. Before I would lose between 1-3% every hour, now its more like 6-7%. When I check battery use details Android system uses between 60-70% when prior to update it was in single digits.
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Fixed this problem by pulling battery.
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Mine reboots 2-3 times every hour.some freeze issues but not too many. Am thinking it would have been better to wait.. hope they get the tower software fixed also...
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This is for stock unrooted peeps.
Anyone that has had reboot problems on their thunderbolts, still experiencing them after updating?
Wife's tbolt starting rebooting a couple times a day about a week ago. Did the update friday night and has rebooted twice since then. Thinking it might be hardware related if others have had their reboots fixed.
Probably going to call verizon next time it does this to try and get a replacement.
I've had only one that I've noticed so far, but that makes it less than the 3-4 daily I noticed with the most recent leak prior (mr2.5 thingee)
No reboots for me since the update. Of course Verzion only claimed this OTA would reduce the number of reboots not do away with them. I hope for you that they don't try to pull then when you ask for a new unit.
Start over from scratch do an app backup...uninstall all apps restart phone try favorite app first give couple hours or a day. slowly put apps back on right down time and date each app installed .doing this is a p.i.t.a .....some apps dont play nicely with others ...plus you dont want a p.o.s.reman phone....anyways this might take a couple of days.....sometimes verizon wont shoot from the hip and just replace .. reason i say this for a while 1st thing they do is hard reset phone and start over ...more or less have to prove problem make sure everytime u call have them note the account....lets see 10 imagios 6 collasped buttons 4 bluetooth failures .....fun fun...nothings easy with verizon
Look at it this way you could be stuck with a really start over flashing firmware with a windows phone cause hard reset sucks [email protected]#$
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Start over from scratch do an app backup...uninstall all apps restart phone try favorite app first give couple hours or a day. slowly put apps back on right down time and date each app installed .doing this is a p.i.t.a .....some apps dont play nicely with others ...plus you dont want a p.o.s.reman phone....anyways this might take a couple of days.....sometimes verizon wont shoot from the hip and just replace .. reason i say this for a while 1st thing they do is hard reset phone and start over ...more or less have to prove problem make sure everytime u call have them note the account....lets see 10 imagios 6 collasped buttons 4 bluetooth failures .....fun fun...nothings easy with verizon
Look at it this way you could be stuck with a really start over flashing firmware with a windows phone cause hard reset sucks [email protected]#$
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she has no different apps than me and I don't have reboots. We'll give it a couple of days, start calling in and creating the history. New customer, I'm sure they would hate to lose us already...
jump ship and pay up the @#% to leave your stuck unless under 15 days then your stuck again because where you came from sucked plus to boot anywhere else is gonna what a deposit ....just because your phones not rebooting with same apps ...the phone is man made #$& happens the other phone might have hardware problems ok prove it...do what i said and track
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Had a few here, better but still angers me.
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same story -- i'm still getting them occasionally but not as often. I was all excited about the update, but a few hours after it installed I was browsing the web and - bam - reboot. It's like a slap in the face. I've also been having a serious problem with my TB just discharging itself overnight... while plugged into the wall charger. I wake up and it has a completely dead battery which is a major PITA, doubly so because I use it as my alarm clock.
My TB has been up since the update on Friday. It used to reboot multiple times a day. Hope this lasts for me.
I'm stock and unrooted.
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This is for stock unrooted peeps.
Anyone that has had reboot problems on their thunderbolts, still experiencing them after updating?
Wife's tbolt starting rebooting a couple times a day about a week ago. Did the update friday night and has rebooted twice since then. Thinking it might be hardware related if others have had their reboots fixed.
Probably going to call verizon next time it does this to try and get a replacement.
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I have never had a reboot and I have been rooted since a week after owning the TBolt... I guess just lucky
Haven't had a reboot since memorial day weekend.
Never had a reboot before or after the update....I just bought my Tbolt two weeks ago, maybe they corrected the rebooting issues with the current hardware?? I mean if users are still rebooting after the update maybe its not software...
I've been really really lucky here I guess. I bought my Thunderbolt about a week after it came out and have had maybe 3-4 reboots since then. I have gone through a few roms/kernals/radios but never any issues. It must just be a hit/miss thing with hardware to be honest. Either that or the network, I'm in West Lafayette maybe our network is just far superior
The only gripe I have had is shutdowns, which IMO are more annoying because I can't just turn it back on, I have to pull the battery and wait a couple minutes before putting it back in and then waiting another minute before it responds to the power button to turn it back on again.
All in all I am happy with it compared to all others complaints on reboots. I would rather have a small number of reboots/shutdowns than a refurbished phone with possibly more issues.
I've been rebooting still like CRAZY. Before and after the update. I got on Verizon and received my phone on Thursday. It was rebooting over and over and over... I noticed it happened if I left wifi coverage at work or home. Even after the update, same thing! Rebooting over and over like no tomorrow.
I noticed that with LTE on it would loose connectivity all together until I manually rebooted. If I was on Edge or 3G it would stay up longer. I have since then turned off LTE and it has been fine, but still reboots every few hours.
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I have never had a reboot and I have been rooted since a week after owning the TBolt... I guess just lucky
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I have had 1 reboot after having mine for over a month or so now. Been rooted since day 1 and have changed radios multiple times along with ROMs/Kernels. I guess we are both lucky?
Never once had a reboot. Custom rom since day one though. Stock sucks.
On a helpful side though. Always best to do a hard reset after a update. I know its a pain but it is the best solution normally.
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I updated my phone (flashed stock 2.2 rom, flashed stock recovery, then used LG updater tool, then ran recovery after flashing) to 2.3 on the day v21e was released and from the day after flashing I am still having to do battery pulls as the phone locks while in standby. Am I the only one having this issue or are there others as well? hopefully the official release doesn't have this problem.
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I updated my phone (flashed stock 2.2 rom, flashed stock recovery, then used LG updater tool, then ran recovery after flashing) to 2.3 on the day v21e was released and from the day after flashing I am still having to do battery pulls as the phone locks while in standby. Am I the only one having this issue or are there others as well? hopefully the official release doesn't have this problem.
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I've had lockups since day 1... It's gets me so mad. I have a replacement coming in a few days. I've tried everything... Rooting, unrooting, and the 2.3.3 update didn't fix anything! But one thing which was weird, is that 2 days ago, when I was at Oceanport, NJ Warped Tour, my phone was in my bag. It was about 98 degrees outside, and my phone was really hot... It managed to stay on the entire time... WHICH WAS WEIRD! But I hope my replacement doesn't have an problems.
My dad has a G2X with NO PROBLEM AT ALL. Absolutely NO screenbleeding whatsoever! and he's NEVER had a lockup/reboot!
7/29 EDIT: I received my replacement G2X in the mail yesterday, and it appears that all of my issues are gone!
I think I'm going to wait until the upgraded ones come out and try to do a return for the newest ones.
I am having the same problem. I got a new g2x about 2 months ago. it was perfect. lost it. got a replacement and have had the same issue you are having. after update i still have the same issue. i just leave it on the charger. i set it to not sleep while charging and it will not shut down. as soon as it is unplugged it will shut down.
I had to wipe my phone and factory reset to make run as it should after to the update
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I had to wipe my phone and factory reset to make run as it should after to the update
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I did that as well, twice actually, but that didn't fix the issue.
I'm trying an experiment by uninstalling setcpu and juicedefender and just letting the kernel manage my cpu. I expect less overall battery life, but I'm hoping that by eliminating the screen-off profile and constant radio on/off, maybe...just MAYBE it might help with my sleep of death, freezes, and random reboots.
I have sinced changed where screen wont timeout for thirty minutes I did two factory resets since update and still does not work time to return or change the rom.
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I had very few random reboot issues before the GB update. Maybe 4 or 5 in the months that I've owned the G2x.
Since the GB update I've had several each day. I've hopped around onto various ROMs to see if one would correct the issue and to date, none have. I'm considering restoring my Froyo nandroid to see if that gets my stability back.
Tmo is sending new replacement. Finally got tired of attempts to fix.
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Tmo is sending new replacement. Finally got tired of attempts to fix.
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You had a defective unit, software wouldn't fix it. If it was a "kernel" issue. One of the custom kernels on XDA should've fixed it.
My g2x froze all the time while idle. I read a thread once that claimed upping the minimum CPU clockspeed to 312MHz fixed the problem, so I used SetCPU to increase it and it stopped freezing after that. Reboots were another issue though...
I've had my G2X for about a month, and have been experiencing the common issue where my phone randomly shuts off and the only way to get it to turn back on is to pull the battery.
I've installed the GB update, that didn't fix it. Factory reset didn't help either.
Has anyone successfully fixed this issue on their phone? If so, what'd you do? Is there any chance that rooting my phone would correct the problem?
Sorry if there was a post about this, I couldn't find anything talking about if anyone's been able to fix the problem.
Thanks
yes... the onlyhh way to fix the problem is to root! nvflash clock work mod recovery, then flash eagle blood 2.3.3 rom and it is perfect...
Thanks, this did indeed seems to do the trick. Not a single reboot so far after 2.5 days.
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My G2X actually restarted on its own today. It was the first time since the first few days I had the phone over a month-month and a half ago. Wasn't really a big deal, lol. It comes back on.
Have been playing with this phone for 3 days now and haven't had any issues (I did install xboarder's stock rooted version). Minor screen bleed is the only issue.
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Finally, someone (dmaniscool) who can say they switched to an xda dev'ed ROM and got rid of the lock ups. I've posted many times asking if anybody ACTUALLY FIXED a problem (specifically the battery pull lock up); I got no responses, and someone finally stated it. Great. Next time my wife's G2x locks up, I'm rooting and putting a ROM on it.
Thank you dmaniscool
-Bob
so, PLEASE dmaniscool, occasionally update this thread with your lack of lock-ups, or if you get a lock-up. PLEASE!!!
Thanks,
-Bob
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so, PLEASE dmaniscool, occasionally update this thread with your lack of lock-ups, or if you get a lock-up. PLEASE!!!
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Will do, so far so good! I had no experience with rooting, and was able to figure it out looking at the guides available on the forum. It kind of looks intimidating, but it's not actually very difficult.
By restart does everyone mean just shuts down? Mine never restarts, it will just shut off.
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By restart does everyone mean just shuts down? Mine never restarts, it will just shut off.
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Mine did both actually, shut down and restarts. But mostly just shut downs, which required a battery pull to power back on.
My 2 will do both - but I think the "shut-off" is a lock up, because the longer I leave it locked up, the less battery I'll have after I do a battery pull.
8 days of both phones not locking up by doing one restart per day per phone.
Since I raised the minimum CPU speed to 389 from 216, I have far fewer sleeps of death
You don't wanna know where this was sent from.
I've tried every ROM and kernel combination possible and nothing actually fixes these problems for me.
Wow this post was scary at first, I had a thunderbolt and no matter what. RUU, Different ROMS, Stock, Kernels, Radios. Changing all that didn't matter it still turns off constantly and doesn't turn back on till I do it meaning no text or calls, basically same as having a phone on silent all the time without even having the luck chance of pulling it out while ringing.....
I am on miui x.26 (whatever kernal that comes with it) and have over 40 hours of uptime. I haven't had a crash yet, I just manually restart every couple of days because I'm weird like that.
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Well 6 days into it and I've had a total of 2 shutdowns. I don't know if it was a coincidence, but both times were after being outside when it was ~90 degrees out.
This is still much improved, I used to get 3-4 per day on average.
I'm using Eaglesblood 2.3.3. I'm thinking of trying MIUI because it's so nice looking.
For me I did a battery replacement the first time directly from T-Mobile and the phone continued restarting on me. I was just about to request a replacement phone from T-Mobile until I recently purchased a different brand of battery containing the same specs as the stock battery and to my surprise no overheating and definitely no restarts. I feel that the restarts and lockups are due to faulty batteries shipped out with the phones. I'm suprised no one has mentioned this.
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Do you mind sharing what brand battery you purchased?
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Wow, I told the CostCo kiosk girl I was having lock up problems and I had my grandkids with me. She took my phone and pulled the battery - at the same time my grandson stated he had to go to the bathroom NOW. She either looked at the battery or something on the phone under the battery. I didn't have time to ask. She didn't really comment and gave me my phone back.
Hmmmmmm........
-Bob
ok so do they know what exactly is causing the shut downs or reboot on this phone? i just got mine today and it was pre installed with gingerbread and idk if there is root for the gingerbread build yet. i just want root but no custom rom for me. i love the stock rom. it kicked the crap out of my sensation 4g as far as speed goes in everyday use.