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Android on smartphone or ppc??

I have seen they are working on this on a few different sites. Does anyone here no anything about it yet? I figure if anyone is going to do it, it woll be someone here..Here is a link of someone doing it on a mda 3.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/13/firm-shows-off-functional-android-build-on-ancient-htc-hardware/

From what I understood of what I read, it's technically not running it on a smartphone. You run a VNC Viewer on your phone (normally, VNC is software used to remotely control your PC), then setup your PC to feed the Android display to your phone.
So what's basically happening is Android runs in an emulator on your PC, but shows up on your phone.
Because of the nature of the VNC, however, this makes for a very slowly system and means you really can't make phone calls using it.

Oh...is that what they are doing there? I guess I didn't read closely enough. Thanks for the update. I was hoping to flash my Wizard with some mystical android rom at some point....I know............. I'm dreaming......but it would be cool..

gottifour said:
Oh...is that what they are doing there? I guess I didn't read closely enough. Thanks for the update. I was hoping to flash my Wizard with some mystical android rom at some point....I know............. I'm dreaming......but it would be cool..
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Agree... it would be cool. In the mean time, if you haven't already, check out PointUI. I expect it to progress into something really sick (it's pretty cool already).

Oh it'll most likely happen sooner or later...especially considering HTC is planning to release an Android device, which means possibly similar hardware, but it's still too early...

bigflavor said:
Agree... it would be cool. In the mean time, if you haven't already, check out PointUI. I expect it to progress into something really sick (it's pretty cool already).
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I'm checking it out as we speak..thanks for the link...
Here is a link to the android sdk....If you haven't checked it out yet you should its kind of cool.
http://code.google.com/android/download.html

Burning CD's with Android

So I've pretty much replaced my laptop with my transformer. Yea my laptop has a 17 inch screen, but to be honest with you its so big I never wanted to take it anywhere! Isn't a laptop supposed to be PORTABLE? I feel like I can (and should) take the TF everywhere. It seems tiny when docked, but just right when used as a tablet.
I love it.
The only thing stopping me from selling my laptop at this point is that I need to burn CD's occasionally. Is there any app out there that can access an external burner so that I can make CD's from music I have stored on my external drive?
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Probably more a matter of time, at least if there's interest in it, but might be a long time. Didn't Honeycomb just add USB host support? I don't think it would've been possible before that.

javroch said:
Probably more a matter of time, at least if there's interest in it, but might be a long time. Didn't Honeycomb just add USB host support? I don't think it would've been possible before that.
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You woukd think this would be simple enough if we had usb host. Oh how I wish I was a dev.
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seh6183 said:
You woukd think this would be simple enough if we had usb host. Oh how I wish I was a dev.
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Not necessarily at all, not all manufacturers provide Linux drivers for their hardware (Android is linux underneath it all). As well, I'm not sure exactly how Linux drivers work, but each CD burner might need their own set of drivers

If the iso drivers are in the kernel, the system will know about cd/dvd disks and drives. The issues is a program to do the burning.

NMCBR600 said:
If the iso drivers are in the kernel, the system will know about cd/dvd disks and drives. The issues is a program to do the burning.
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So I plugged in my external DVD writer, and the kernel currently is not reconigzing it.
So that is step 1, someone adding the drivers into the kernel.
After that, it is simly a matter of re-building cdrecorder and mkisofs for an ARM target and writing a little UI on top of it.

brunes said:
So I plugged in my external DVD writer, and the kernel currently is not reconigzing it.
So that is step 1, someone adding the drivers into the kernel.
After that, it is simly a matter of re-building cdrecorder and mkisofs for an ARM target and writing a little UI on top of it.
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Lets contact some dev's who might know how to do this! I can message the Dev for the prime rom. He may be able to point us in the right direction.
EDIT
Messaged him just now.
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I would dust the laptop back off......There are not enough devs or support for at least another 2 yrs to have a bug free Android OS. Also you have the first model of about 15 major tabs in the next 2 yrs! Just because it has a docking station means nothing. Don't get me wrong i love Android.....but leaving windows 7 and coming up 8????? Not to mention all the bugs because its a "beta" product. Actually i wouldn't even call this Alpha..Android OS should of release a GOOGLE laptop first with all the correct hardware specs and almost bug free before letting anyone put there OS on a tablet and sell it...Every Honeycomb tablet that has been made has issues. And its the hardware not being fully compatible.

dallastx said:
I would dust the laptop back off......There are not enough devs or support for at least another 2 yrs to have a bug free Android OS. Also you have the first model of about 15 major tabs in the next 2 yrs! Just because it has a docking station means nothing. Don't get me wrong i love Android.....but leaving windows 7 and coming up 8????? Not to mention all the bugs because its a "beta" product. Actually i wouldn't even call this Alpha..Android OS should of release a GOOGLE laptop first with all the correct hardware specs and almost bug free before letting anyone put there OS on a tablet and sell it...Every Honeycomb tablet that has been made has issues. And its the hardware not being fully compatible.
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I think you are way over thinking this.
It wouldn't take much to make android completely replace a full size os.
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dallastx said:
I would dust the laptop back off......There are not enough devs or support for at least another 2 yrs to have a bug free Android OS. Also you have the first model of about 15 major tabs in the next 2 yrs! Just because it has a docking station means nothing. Don't get me wrong i love Android.....but leaving windows 7 and coming up 8????? Not to mention all the bugs because its a "beta" product. Actually i wouldn't even call this Alpha..Android OS should of release a GOOGLE laptop first with all the correct hardware specs and almost bug free before letting anyone put there OS on a tablet and sell it...Every Honeycomb tablet that has been made has issues. And its the hardware not being fully compatible.
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If you replaced android with another operating system on your post, that can apply to any OS system on the planet. Be it windows, osx, Linux or what ever a company puts out. Not one OS or hardware is immune. Perfect software only happens when it's on the drawing board. The longer android is out the better it gets..but honeycomb has been out a very short time and is only on 5 percent of the devices running google OS. There are more then enough developers for it.

I'm looking for an external dvd burner to work with the TF also. Seems like a lot of TF owners are looking too. Hopefully someone with xda will develop the software...

Not exactly what you want but it might help
Check out this product.....It adds an extra step and it would be kinda kludgy at best.......It is a standalone cd burner.
http://www.cyberguys.com/product-details/?productid=11177
They also have a DVD burner. There may be others out there as well. I have been wanting this as well and don't really want to spend extra to get the capability right now at least.

Awesome! Definitely a solid solution. And a great idea in general! Thanks for the info
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Install Ubuntu, install cd burning software, profit.

brando56894 said:
Install Ubuntu, install cd burning software, profit.
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Get the trackpad drivers working, wifi UI up and running, sound, hdmi audio, and the other 1000 not yet working things running in ubuntu then yeah, sure, profit.

DeNiMuLiC said:
Get the trackpad drivers working, wifi UI up and running, sound, hdmi audio, and the other 1000 not yet working things running in ubuntu then yeah, sure, profit.
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Lol
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DeNiMuLiC said:
Get the trackpad drivers working, wifi UI up and running, sound, hdmi audio, and the other 1000 not yet working things running in ubuntu then yeah, sure, profit.
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technically you don't need any of those things you listed to burn a cd in linux, all you need is the command line.

brando56894 said:
technically you don't need any of those things you listed to burn a cd in linux, all you need is the command line.
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I don't think he's looking to reboot into a full-blown Ubuntu environment (where nothing else works) just to burn a DVD... The whole point of this thread is to get Android-native tools to do the burning - not setup some half-working OS to do the task...
I don't see what the Unix "cdrecord" and "mkisofs" utilities can't be ported over to Android. Although, I don't have the skills to do that, so maybe it's not such a trivial task...
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seriously dude?? This thread is almost two years old. Stop necromancing.

Which Anti-Virus are you using?

hey guys, which anti-virus u r using. and any pros and cons of that AV.
and do we actually need an AV?
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I have been using my phone for two months and havent installed any antivirus..i didnt have any problem..
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I don't think smartphone really need AV app in this time.
Anti-theft is better, such as "Android lost"

I don't use one now but avast is pretty good

so, we need not use any anti virus???
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Super_Commando said:
so, we need not use any anti virus???
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Nope..unless you are paranoid
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Super_Commando said:
hey guys, which anti-virus u r using. and any pros and cons of that AV.
and do we actually need an AV?
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Open source does not mean there will be more security holes. The collective efforts ensure more bugs are sniffed out and patches produced more quickly. When we consider the history of viruses with Windows servers versus Linux, the argument above faultily asserts that Linux loses. However the fact is the the Open Source Linux OS is the one that is more secure. The collective efforts all have a high concern for security of their efforts. Also, although the Android OS is Open Source, what we get on our devices, that code is not immediately made open to the public. The OEMs release that code months later, anyone who was truly "savvy" about this industry would know that.
The question of the OP whether you need anti-virus software for Android, and the answer is no. The fact that because the Android browser accepts cookies, doesn't somehow mean all Android devices are at risk of a virus that has never yet been developed. Fact is, that issues with Android come via applications that are installed, especially when they physically enable a setting to side load apps, the device owner is able to see fully what rights that application wants to use before installing it and they install anyway. This is not an issue of visiting a certain web page and suddenly you're infected, that's not how Android works and it is not comparable to Windows.
On my Windows PC, I just had to install well over 10 patches and there are always so many Microsoft has to roll them out in monthly batches. So it's certainly requiring a heck of a lot of frequent updates.
So, to recap: you do NOT need an anti virus application. Android OS is unlike Windows, and you'll just be using unnecessary storage space and battery usage with that sucker searching your system for "suspects". Don't bother with them, you'll be just fine without...
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If you do a fair amount of passing attachments back and forth to windows users, especially windows users who might not keep their own antivirus up to date, it might be a good idea to have it installed. At least you won't be infecting others or perpetuating viruses.
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Apex_Strider said:
Open source does not mean there will be more security holes. The collective efforts ensure more bugs are sniffed out and patches produced more quickly. When we consider the history of viruses with Windows servers versus Linux, the argument above faultily asserts that Linux loses. However the fact is the the Open Source Linux OS is the one that is more secure. The collective efforts all have a high concern for security of their efforts. Also, although the Android OS is Open Source, what we get on our devices, that code is not immediately made open to the public. The OEMs release that code months later, anyone who was truly "savvy" about this industry would know that.
The question of the OP whether you need anti-virus software for Android, and the answer is no...
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While I agree with the no, I don't agree with the Linux argument.... A relatively small percentage of people actually run Linux, and those that do tend to be computer savy. That means last small, maybe even minscule, 'reward' to the virus makers. Apple, on the other hand, does a good job of keeping security holes out of their computers. While I like my mac book pro and will prolly buy another, there is a reason I'm on Android. Mainly because it rocks. =)
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cowenby said:
While I agree with the no, I don't agree with the Linux argument.... A relatively small percentage of people actually run Linux, and those that do tend to be computer savy. That means last small, maybe even minscule, 'reward' to the virus makers. Apple, on the other hand, does a good job of keeping security holes out of their computers. While I like my mac book pro and will prolly buy another, there is a reason I'm on Android. Mainly because it rocks. =)
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If you've ever run a Linux distro, any of them, comparatively alongside a Windows machine, you'll notice one of many fundamental differences: security updates. While Windows seemingly pushes out several 'patches' weekly and more frequently monthly, Linux OS machines simply do not see these near as often. Why? Because of the reasons I listed above. You don't have to agree, and certainly if you've never had any real experience running a Linux distro, but nonetheless, the differences and signifiers of security (or lack thereof) dynamics are quite categorical...

[ROM][JB]Server Rom[VERY LIGHTWEIGHT]

This is just a rom thats good for using ur phone as a server
Features
Based off Winsuk's CM10
SFTP Program Preinstalled
Lightweight
Botbrew Basil inside(you can choose from lighttpd and apache w/ php)
idk wat else
Changelog
9/21/12
First release
Downloads are here
Credits:
Winsuk for the base rom
inportb for botbrew basil
and
Krzysztof Głodowski for the SFTP program

How would this benefit people, besides it being neat?
Does it still function as a phone, make calls, text, etc?

Nope
Its just for making ur phone a server
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Thats great! I thinked to compile apache, php and mysql... and other needed libs for android but was lazy ... I cross compiled these things for ppc sucesfully for my satelite receiver Dreambox DM600 2 years ago and had smf forum runing inside... .. maybe I will make one "pack" for native android later... thats good thing having web server under android !

This is really cool!
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Interesting idea. Although I haven't clue why I would need this...
Good job cooking it up though!
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if you dont know, then you wouldnt need it..
hacker dream

Availability
Any idea when the link will be fixed? I have an old Aria that I'd love to try out this server ROM with.
Thanks!
-Abbott

Does it still require a functional Sim card to work?
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This is interesting.. I would like to know how I could use this.. My daughter wanted to throw it away so I've got one just laying around

nukebreath said:
This is interesting.. I would like to know how I could use this.. My daughter wanted to throw it away so I've got one just laying around
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i would like to know this as well and i take it from your pic that your from houston...what a disappointing year to be a texans fan...so sad...i almost cried lol
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I don't own an Aria (yet.... getting a refurb one soon just to add to the collection and play with using tools like this one), but from what I read about the items added to this rom, it's exactly what the title of the post says. It's a server.
Imagine taking the time to setup a separate box running Ubuntu or Red Hat or something to use as your own private linux server. Now skip all that and just install this rom. Bam, your phone that may have been sitting around collecting dust can now provide the same thing (albeit probably much slower).
A fully functioning apache web server, perfect for poking around with and learning the ins and outs of linux servers. Point your router to it, open port 80 and there you go. Serviing out web pages from your own little corner of the internet.

Hopefully I get time, I'd like to try this out. Any comments from anyone who's used this? I have an old HTC G2 (desire z) sitting around. I cleaned it up, rooted, and installed cyanogenmod on it. I've been playing around with an IP cam app and a couple FTS server apps.
One of my main concerns was powering the device. It gets super warm after prolonged usage, and I don't know how long the battery would handle 24/7 charging, or if it should even be a concern at all. To bad the phone wont power on while plugged in with the battery removed, like laptops.

I have an old Aria that I use as an MP3 player. Would this work for that? (using Google Play Music)

As all you guys might see, this one is quite old. Also, the download link is dead for a long time now, I think the best would be to get this thread closed.

[ROM] WebOS - Untethered [Download]

Hey guys,
got a brand-spanking-new N7 for Christmas and saw on a news site about a WebOS port.
Now, I'm not sure if any of you have seen the Nook Color forums but I'm gonna tell you, they hacked a 2010 $250 e-reader to run every version of Android and Ubuntu. I'm a tinkering kind of guy and decided to give this ago.
So pretty much I took instructions from here:
http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Nexus_7_Build_Setup
And installed to the device here:
http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Testing_Nexus_7
It is moderate-hard difficulty, especially for people who have never tinkered with this kind of stuff before. There's only so much I can do for you guys, but I have simplified the install process quite a bit.
I DO reccomend building it yourself if you can, because it provides a learning experience plus you can get the build fresh out of the oven.
Note: This is work in progress, some stuff may not work, alpha, blah blah most of you have heard it.
Without further ado, I present to you:
WebOS Installation Guide - Nexus 7 Edition​
Windows:
1. Download Windows.zip
2. Extract all to one directory, make sure Nexus is plugged in & ADB on
3. Run "Boot.exe"
4. Wait.
Linux version to come; Mac i'm not so sure about.
Credits: ALL credits go to WebOS-ports for making this port in the first place. I just made it easier for the common user to test this thing out. You can thank me if you like but please remember to do so to WebOS-ports as well.
Notes:
-This is an alpha build, according to the dev. It's nothing you could use everyday as an OS but this stuff is fun to play with
-I nor WebOS-ports take responsibility for your device in anyway! I don't care if your cat dies because it ate your N7 running WebOS, or you caused WWIII, or whatever. Please take caution.

Looks interesting and I am the tinkering kind of guy myself. Down to check it out. Oh, and I always wanted to say it.....FIRST!

Wouldn't you be second cuz he was the first guy to post something
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I tested this out and its alright but definitely not ready for daily use yet.
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Alright, the download is up.
You are very correct this is not something to use everyday, but it's something.

Thanks, gonna use this later... Seems cool. WebOS is HP's operating system right??

anerik said:
Thanks, gonna use this later... Seems cool. WebOS is HP's operating system right??
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Yes it is. But because it was not popular they release their sources to the public.
It's why we have now webos ported on several devices

I'm compiling right now mine...many thanks for the point out with proper porting howto!well done!
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Thank you for this good news.
It takes a few days, for those who do not know / can not compile, for try this system.
grrrrr!!!! Enjoy :laugh:

Does anyone know if you can use it with multirom?

sert00 said:
I'm compiling right now mine...many thanks for the point out with proper porting howto!well done!
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daveheart14 said:
Thank you for this good news.
It takes a few days, for those who do not know / can not compile, for try this system.
grrrrr!!!! Enjoy :laugh:
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Yeah it is a bit hard to compile. Good luck to both of you.
If you get stuck, there's a reason I posted this

not working for me. it pushes the images, reboots to fastboot/bootloader and gets stuck there. nothing happens.

fix-this! said:
not working for me. it pushes the images, reboots to fastboot/bootloader and gets stuck there. nothing happens.
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Same for me, maybe I wasn't patient enough but i just restarted it and will try another day when I have more patience

will we ever be able to flash this like a basic ROM later down the road?
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lightninbug said:
will we ever be able to flash this like a basic ROM later down the road?
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I hope so.
I'll test this one more time, I *may* have left something out in the windows zip

Would be curious to see any screenshot
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jamesst20 said:
Would be curious to see any screenshot
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YouTube webos nexus 7..........
Or if your even lazier .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFwrE9UGie0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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For me it's stuck at "booting downloaded image".

I started compiling this last night at about 11:00. Its 1:00 pm now. This morning when I went to bed the terminal said 'preparing run queue' and had for about two hours. This morning when I woke up terminal reads 'Currently 1 running tasks (1801 of 4600): 0: webkit-webos-1.3-0.54-r10 do_compile (pid 9944). Been this way for a long time now. When i scroll up the terminal window I see some warnings. Repeated several times is QA Issue: package qt4-webos contains bad RPATH and repeated several times before that is QA Issue: No GNU_HASH in the elf binary: Am I on the right track or is something screwed up? I'm using an older PC running Ubuntu 12.04 with core 2 duo and only 4 GB of ram so I figured it would take a while. When I started the build I also got a message in the terminal saying this build has never reportedly been done on my machines configuration and to let them know if it works. Something along those lines.

Re: WebOS - Untethered [Download]
Looks cool
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