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Hey guys. I'm actually relatively new on the forums, though I've had my Captivate since December last year. I have been using ROMs from these forums since the third day I had my phone, I just never registered.
Anyway, I just feel I should make a post thanking everyone. Mostly MikeyMike01 and ChanceM, because the third ROM I ever flashed was Serendipity. And I've been using Serendipity since then. I have indeed flashed things in between, but the longest I've ever had a non-Serendipity ROM on my phone has been less than an hour. So it's safe to say that Serendipity is a physical part of my phone now... In fact, since I'm getting the HTC Inspire, my brother is getting my Captivate (his first Android phone), and the ROM that I pre-loaded for him is Serendipity 5.12. That's how much I trust/love this ROM.
Anyway, does anyone have any opinions on the HTC Inspire? I remember seeing one other person in these forums who switched to the same phone, saying that it seemed like a more sturdy phone.
I will thoroughly miss these Captivate forums though. Thanks are as follows:
MikeyMike01
ChanceM
existz (I use SuckerPunch-Voodoo)
Samsung (LOL I use the KP1 modem, dunno who to thank for this one)
Anyone else who has some sort of mod on my phone.
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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MikeyMike01 said:
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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but...it's made by samsung!
alex4lex said:
but...it's made by samsung!
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
daleaf said:
That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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I wouldn't push it that far....
After weighing all the pros and cons of the Galaxy S series and the upcoming 2 (talking about the internation/original here), the Galaxy S 2 will most likely be my next device. Decent build, decent software, hardware is top notch, and that screen is something I can't drop now that I've stared at it for so long. Knowing that the international Galaxy S 2 works with AT&T's HSPA+ bands without modifications is also a deciding factor.
please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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jc2470 said:
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
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So I've heard.
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I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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I'd never pay that much for a phone. I'm buying it because my father's iPhone 4 is now eligible for upgrade, but he doesn't want a new phone so we're using his upgrade for mine.
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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Agreed for the most part. AT&T held back the Froyo ROM without a doubt for stupid reasons, but we aren't sure if the i9000 is actually getting Gingerbread. Yeah, it was leaked, but so was Froyo way back when. I understand that Froyo wasn't released for our phone mostly because of AT&T, but you can't be so sure; it's still just a "leak".
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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Not true at all. Serendipity is the closest I've found to perfect, but it's still a ROM. From experience and from hearing other people speak about the Inspire, you don't really even need to put a ROM on the HTC Inspire 4G for it to be perfect. I'm definitely going to flash something (maybe something that'll remove Sense UI, I'm not sure if I'll like it), but most of the features in the ROMs are already found on the phone as stock.
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please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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I would not get the DHD. I have a friend who has it, and it's just overhyped. It's not as good as everyone makes it seem.
The Nexus S is pretty much like this phone in which you'll have the same amount of development. The hardware may be different in technical respects, but the same in user experience.
The SGS 2 isn't released yet, but when it is, it's going to be a great phone. If it was already released, I'd consider buying it, but I'm not going to wait for it to come out.
The Atrix is somewhat overkill, but if you're entering college or have a need for a netbook/small laptop with basic features (e-mail, Facebook, etc.), then the Atrix is for you. It's just expensive, even with a contract.
Also, please post questions in the Q&A forum; that's why it's there.
Try Cognition 4.1 on your captivate. You won't be disappointed.
The Inspire kicks ass.
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Between CM7 and MIUI on the Inspire it blows anything and everything out of the water in the Captivate/i9000 forums. After seeing how Samsung utterly destroys their phones with Touchwiz, I'll never buy a Samsung phone again.
Go with the Inspire and you will not be disappointed.
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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They are basically the same phone. So that suggestion doesn't make much sense...
Inspire is a downgrade in hardware but upgrade in software. Add to that the rooting is quite a pain compared to the captivate...
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So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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Ohhhhh I thought you were talking about a phone that doesn't exist (Droid HD anyone?).
Anyway, yes, the phones are almost completely similar. It's just that the DHD is European, I believe.
eramming said:
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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How so? It has a lower pixel density and a Super LCD, which are both a downgrade, but I don't watch videos on my phone. Otherwise, how is it a downgrade? It has 700 somewhat MB of RAM, gets amazing Quad and Linpack scores compared to the Captivate (I don't base opinions on benchmarks, though), and Sense UI, though I might not use Sense...
the insipire isnt much of an upgrade. did u already get it? i personally would still take my captivate over it
I honestly can't see any of the current phones destroy the captivate in functionality and flexibility except for the nexus S. Pure google + decent specs.
The inspire blows cap away in speed, everyone in inspire forums will tell u that and almost all of them are previous captivate owners and switched to it, even blows the atrix away, call it a downgrade or whatever put whatever spin u like on it and its still the top phone to beat. and it works out of the box the radio even works great, i get no random shut downs my battery consumption is better then cappy, I dont get lag at all, it will load any program faster and run it better then the cappy did, watch a video on youtube about it, http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/featured/face-off-htc-inspire-4g-vs-samsung-captivate/ and yes no doubt there will be more better phones out this year same as 6 months from then there will be even more, with my 6 month early upgrade it cost me 300 to get it which I certainly can live with, in 6 months i will get another of the better phones out of the time.
I gave my Cap to my aunt. I have Serendipity 5.12 on it and MIUI on my Inspire. I have around 75 apps on the Inspire and it booted quicker, unlocked quicker, and the notification bar pulled down with no lag at all.
I was running CM7 on it and it was even faster than that.
The screen difference isn't that big of a deal, either, and I've stared at the SAMOLED screen since last August.
Greetings,
I've never had an Android phone. I'm still using a Behold and a Storm II for work.
I bought a Nook Color, and I've been running Honeycomb for a few weeks.
I'm ready to bail on T-Mobile and go to ATT while I can still get a good deal on a phone for being a new customer, and the refurb Captivate is free.
I'll try the OEM 2.2 release, then probably root.
If you knew then what you know now, would you still get a Captivate?
I would, imho still the most customizable phone out there. I was mad because 4 days after my 30 day the phone was free for black friday.
I would buy it . If u don't wana wait if u wait till first week of April Samsung galaxy s2 is coming with all the frequency bands on it. So its 3g compatible basically with all carriers.
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Get an Inspire, so much better.
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Greetings,
I've never had an Android phone. I'm still using a Behold and a Storm II for work.
I bought a Nook Color, and I've been running Honeycomb for a few weeks.
I'm ready to bail on T-Mobile and go to ATT while I can still get a good deal on a phone for being a new customer, and the refurb Captivate is free.
I'll try the OEM 2.2 release, then probably root.
If you knew then what you know now, would you still get a Captivate?
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The deal with the refurb phone is that you run a chance at getting one that has a shutdown problem. There are still some refurbs floating around in their stock that hasn't been repaired by Samsung (despite what AT&T claims) that resolves a random shutdown problem. I know this because I got a refurb that had this problem and I had to send it to Samsung to have it repaired (I got my Cappy last December).
Other than the problem I had with it initially the phone rocks and I am glad I got it at the price of a two year contract renewal and no more.
DONT GET A REFURB. you want the full warranty just in case.
The main problems with Captivates is the crappy (useless on stock) GPS, warranty is good for getting a replacement if your phone has issues. The other problem is the random shutdown problem. it happened to an earlier batch and doubtful you would get one with that issue.
I LOVE mine, best screen i have seen and a great phone with a custom ROM which is not too difficult to install.
I beg to differ. We got better display (samoled), more roms, more kernels, and more developers. What about unlocking? We got that. HTC don't. Ton of themes. HTC is heavy and the battery case is hard to open. We got 16gb on board and HTC got 8gb. Maybe I just like my captivate.
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Get an Inspire, so much better.
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I beg to differ. We got better display (samoled), more roms, more kernels, and more developers. What about unlocking? We got that. HTC don't. Ton of themes. HTC is heavy and the battery case is hard to open. We got 16gb on board and HTC got 8gb. Maybe I just like my captivate.
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I used to have a Cappy, so I know what I'm talking about. Glad I ditched it.
Display - yeah, SAMOLED is better, although it's pretty good on the Inspire as well.
Roms - I've only tried CM7 on the Inspire, but it's been far nicer than any of the custom roms I've tried on the Captivate. The Cappy ones are great, but CM7 just has so many more features. I know you guys are getting CM7, eventually, but looks like it'll take a while.
Unlocking - yes it is possible to unlock the Inspire, in fact the initial rooting program does it for you.
Weight - it's a little heavier than my old Cappy but it doesn't bother me too much.
Battery door - it was only hard to open the first few times, now it's easy.
Memory - yes Cappy has more to begin with, but it is possible to change out the SD card in the Inspire to a bigger one. Cappy has 16gb internal, Inspire has an 8gb SD card bundled.
Oh yeah the Inspire's GPS actually works pretty well, and HTC actually seems to care about putting updates out for their phones. That was my biggest gripe with the Captivate, is just that Samsung didn't seem to give a **** about their customers after sale. Of course custom roms and such from here were very helpful.
No. Wait for the Galaxy S2
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If you weren't so close to other phones (and better phones) being launched, I would say get a Captivate. At this point though, wait for the new phones. Plus you never know with AT &T now buying T-Mobile, the deals should be a plenty.
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I would buy it . If u don't wana wait if u wait till first week of April Samsung galaxy s2 is coming with all the frequency bands on it. So its 3g compatible basically with all carriers.
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First week of April? You sure?
Captivate is an awesome phone minus the GPS issue which a lot of the roms do seem to "almost" fix. Awesome battery life, great screen and TONS of roms.
If you can't wait, get it... But if I were you, I'd wait for the S2.
I say yes!!!
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Yep
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First week of April? You sure?
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I have HTC desire and captivate. And love my captivate. About more roms, kernels, and developers HTC do have more. And they do get updates faster than any company. Either way I love my cappuccino
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I beg to differ. We got better display (samoled), more roms, more kernels, and more developers. What about unlocking? We got that. HTC don't. Ton of themes. HTC is heavy and the battery case is hard to open. We got 16gb on board and HTC got 8gb. Maybe I just like my captivate.
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captivates a great phone inspire is a great phone,and the gs2 will be a great phone.
take your pick.
My Inspire destroys my Captivate. Even unlocking the phone is faster. The Inspire has Sense ROM's, MIUI and Cyanogenmod support, a true AOSP build in the works, and RoyalLiquid is being ported from the MyTouch 4G. The Captivate has just now gotten Cyanogenmod support. Pretty much everything else in the Captivate Dev section is the same ROM with a different theme (no offence to the Capybara devs).
The Captivate has one thing over the Inspire: a SAMOLED screen.
All of this being said, it's all fact beside the first sentence. YMMV. They're both awesome phones but better phones are around the corner.
I gat a refurb 5 days later sent it back when I knew they will send
Me a new cuz I talk to the insuranse first and now I gat a 300 dls phone for free
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I gat a refurb 5 days later sent it back when I knew they will send
Me a new cuz I talk to the insuranse first and now I gat a 300 dls phone for free
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What
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All in all, the Captivate is a great contender when it comes to these kinda phones. I love this thing. lol
verizon offered to take back my TB after the 14 day period... they sent a return label for the TB its on the way. My 2 biggest complaints are the battery use and the no audio when using the camcorder. I just posted a question if BAMF 1.6 fixes the audio problem... ? I see all the cool stuff in the many Roms for the TB and Im wondering if there is going to be the same type "support" for the droid charge ? What should I do ??????????????????????????????????
Edit: I'm an idiot.
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Absolutely not. Motorola lost my money when they started up with locked bootloaders. I will never buy another phone from them. Although htc isn't completely open its still better than worrying about if my next phone will be customizable or not.
Also I know motorola says that they have changed their ways but I still don't trust them. Plus motoblur is useless.
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Uhhh....The Droid Charge is made by Samsung, not Motorola.
The new samsung phone is just a rehash of the fascinate with android 2.2, larger screen, better camera and lte. Not that it's a bad phone by any means and I would consider it as good as the thunderbolt, but they could do better. I personally like the touchwiz ui more than htc sense, but there's launchers that are similar to it so it doesnt really matter to me. Either phone is worth having and people will complain about either one just because well, people complain.
The galaxy s2 is far better than the other samsung that's coming out, but it probably wont be on verizon until end of the year or next year. Until then, it'll be GSM only like how the galaxy s1 was.
no... samsung means no updates...
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Absolutely not. Motorola lost my money when they started up with locked bootloaders. I will never buy another phone from them. Although htc isn't completely open its still better than worrying about if my next phone will be customizable or not.
Also I know motorola says that they have changed their ways but I still don't trust them. Plus motoblur is useless.
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its a Samsung
MoeDaddy said:
no... samsung means no updates...
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only people who care about updates are the ones that don't root their phones. theres plenty of updates for samsung phones, just not official ones. It's a long standing argument as to whether the slow updates are samsung or verizon, because there's samsung phones that get updates (like the nexus s).
God I cant decide !
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only people who care about updates are the ones that don't root their phones. theres plenty of updates for samsung phones, just not official ones. It's a long standing argument as to whether the slow updates are samsung or verizon, because there's samsung phones that get updates (like the nexus s).
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Coming from the dev side of Samsung, you better care about updates.
Also, the S only gets fast updates because its controlled by Google.
Also consider the Charge to be 10-20% slower than the Thunderbolt until Voodoo arrives. Except games, woot. It will lag like no tomorrow on write intensive tasks such as installing, syncing, browsing, etc.
Then realize that you will only have ~330mb of ram usable due to ram reserved by the gpu, wifi, audio, and video codecs.
There is a lot to consider here before switching or not choosing the TB.
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Stay with HTC if you like tinkering with your phone. I had a Vibrant (T-mobile's Samsung Galaxy S), and although it was an awesome phone to look at and show off, it was horrible to use on a daily basis. Constant lag, freezing, gps so bad it rendered the feature useless (I use my phone to navigate for work). The devs made the best of it, but Samsung ruined that phone from the start. I'm sticking with HTC from now on unless I can't help it. My advice would be to do the same.
I would get the Incredible 2 if you're returning the TB
No way. My Thunderbolt and I are still in the honeymoon phase.
I'm not a big fan of Samsung Android phones. Wife had the fascinate, she ended up taking my droid inc after she got sick of it. Also, I have audio when recording video.
I think that would be a downward trade. My personal major issue with the Thunderbolt is battery life, but there are viable options (big battry, extra batteries, charge it, undervolt) to help it.
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The biggest upside on the ThunderBolt is the fact that we can surf and talk with 3G and 4G whereas the Samsung Charge will only be able to do that on 4G.
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only people who care about updates are the ones that don't root their phones. theres plenty of updates for samsung phones, just not official ones. It's a long standing argument as to whether the slow updates are samsung or verizon, because there's samsung phones that get updates (like the nexus s).
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I could never root my fascinate properly, because I have a mac. It wouldn't find it. If I could've rooted and they actually sent out updates that could be improved into custom ROM's, I'd still have that sexy ass thing.
Clearly they don't though, seeing as I'm here. (the nexus S is a completely different phone. It's Google's Android Showpiece. THEY control it, not sammy.)
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verizon offered to take back my TB after the 14 day period... they sent a return label for the TB its on the way. My 2 biggest complaints are the battery use and the no audio when using the camcorder. I just posted a question if BAMF 1.6 fixes the audio problem... ? I see all the cool stuff in the many Roms for the TB and Im wondering if there is going to be the same type "support" for the droid charge ? What should I do ??????????????????????????????????
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Nope... I would keep the TBolt
Heck no.
Now a Galaxy SII on the other hand...
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Why would he want to downgrade to a 3G device. I think he wants to stay in a 4G device to lock in 30 dollar data plan.
The screen on the Droid charge is absolutely amazing. Best screen I have seen on mobile. But I got my tbolt and I'm running cyanogen. Support for the tbolt will be greater then the charge.
heck no, the charge is fugly
Hey guys,
I have been debating on if i want to get the charge (when it drops) or hold off for something else.
I have the fascinate and I like it but samsung kind of pissed me off with how long it took them to update it to 2.2 froyo, and I am wondering if anyone thinks this is going to happen with the charge.
I mean shouldn't they have released it with gingerbread anyhow?
sure the devs always have our backs but it'd be nice to be assured the company hasn't forgotten about us.
anyone else have these concerns with the charge?
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Hey guys,
I have been debating on if i want to get the charge (when it drops) or hold off for something else.
I have the fascinate and I like it but samsung kind of pissed me off with how long it took them to update it to 2.2 froyo, and I am wondering if anyone thinks this is going to happen with the charge.
I mean shouldn't they have released it with gingerbread anyhow?
sure the devs always have our backs but it'd be nice to be assured the company hasn't forgotten about us.
anyone else have these concerns with the charge?
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if you have a fascinate and dont live in a 4g area there is no reason to get this phone
if you need a 4g phone and want to tie yourself to a 2 year deal save a few bucks (and headaches) and get a bolt or wait on the sgs2
I have the Charge. I had been using the HTC Thunderbolt three weeks prior to my Charge arriving courtesy of Samsung. The Charge is a very good device, comparable to the Thunderbolt. It's considerably llighter in terms of weight but does not feel cheap at all. Don't believe the lame bloggger idiots over at Gizmodo and Engadget that claim the phone should be dual core to be worth the price. The device is just as fast as the Thunderbolt. This phone has the best display than anything I've seen so far. I've owned the OG Droid, Droid X and Thunderbolt, the Droid Charge's display is stunning.
As for size the Charge doesn't feel larger than any other 4.3" device on the market, looks are deceiving. Samsung definitely put some effort in making the Droid Charge the more polished looking device in Verizon's Droid lineup. I've never been a fan of Moto's MotoBlur and was beginning to like HTC's Sense for the brief time I owned the Thunderbolt, but Touchwiz is a nicely designed UI, not as intrusion to the Android experience as I and many others feel MotoBlah is.in my opinion, make your next device The Droid Charge so that the talented people here on XDA Forums have a reason to unleashed the power and potential of the Charge. Only thing I didn't like about the phone was the name. The internal Samsung name for the device was the Stealth. Droid Stealth has a ring to it.
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I have the Charge. I had been using the HTC Thunderbolt three weeks prior to my Charge arriving courtesy of Samsung. The Charge is a very good device, comparable to the Thunderbolt. It's considerably llighter in terms of weight but does not feel cheap at all. Don't believe the lame bloggger idiots over at Gizmodo and Engadget that claim the phone should be dual core to be worth the price. The device is just as fast as the Thunderbolt. This phone has the best display than anything I've seen so far. I've owned the OG Droid, Droid X and Thunderbolt, the Droid Charge's display is stunning.
As for size the Charge doesn't feel larger than any other 4.3" device on the market, looks are deceiving. Samsung definitely put some effort in making the Droid Charge the more polished looking device in Verizon's Droid lineup. I've never been a fan of Moto's MotoBlur and was beginning to like HTC's Sense for the brief time I owned the Thunderbolt, but Touchwiz is a nicely designed UI, not as intrusion to the Android experience as I and many others feel MotoBlah is.in my opinion, make your next device The Droid Charge so that the talented people here on XDA Forums have a reason to unleashed the power and potential of the Charge. Only thing I didn't like about the phone was the name. The internal Samsung name for the device was the Stealth. Droid Stealth has a ring to it.
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I agree with everything he said. If you are on Verizon and want a new phone, this is the one to get.
Im just curious has it been said that the galaxy s2 was coming to verizon, cause I thought it was a gsm phone
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As far as I know from my Samsung contacts the Galaxy S II isn't in the lineup for Verizon at least for the time being.
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The Mobile Panda aka Black Man X (if you don't know him look for him on Twitter) as a Verizon employee who tests their phones he has not heard of the SG2 coming to Verizon this year, and also mentioned there is no room for LTE in that thin shell so it would be a 3G phone.
I personally keep bouncing around from 4G to 3G (with a 4G modem I have) phones from going back to the TB to the Charge or holding out for the Bionic etc. Its a tough time right now because nothing truly blows me away in the mobile device world, sad isn't it.
The display on the Charge is simply stunning and for that alone I would get one, the only major concern I have is 512MB of RAM (the 17 BLOATWARE apps Verizon put on will come off immediately giving me back about 250MB or more). Will it be enough to handle some memory intensive apps, I don't want to be limited.
Since the Galaxy S was rooted and it received Cyanogenmod and the TB is in an Alpha stage we could also see CM7 or with luck other ROM/Kernels.
If I do get the Charge I will donate to Devs here so we can get the Fascinate goods on this phone. ROM's are critical and so are the kernels to boost speed and help battery life.
well best of luck to those who buy this
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if you need a 4g phone and want to tie yourself to a 2 year deal save a few bucks (and headaches) and get a bolt or wait on the sgs2
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Why would any Fascinate owner want to spend money on downgrading to a Thunderbolt?
Your "no developers" FUD has already been proven wrong. Enough with trying to herd people.
s44 said:
Why would any Fascinate owner want to spend money on downgrading to a Thunderbolt?
Your "no developers" FUD has already been proven wrong. Enough with trying to herd people.
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my answer would be: dont by either phone unless you live in a 4g area and need one..
wait for anything thats actually a significant upgrade..and yes i know the charge has a nicer screen and hdmi out as well...but to me that does warrant 300 bucks and a 2 year deal
to those that dont care about development and such then yeah i guess this phone is fine...but id bet there will be a rom or two and a voodoo kernel or two but that ll be as far as that goes on this phone...and with the nasty lte ril forget aosp on the level that the fascinate has (which isnt to say the fascinate even has fully working aosp)
and aside from imnuts saying he ll do kernel work if he gets enough donations to get a charge..i havent seen anyone else commit to it
and depends on you define "downgrade" to the bolt...personally i dont want one and have made my reasons why known...but it has a significant amount of development going on..and it can do voice/data on 3g as well..which for many (not me) is a big plus....and the vast majority of fascinate owners who have left for it seem happy
personally im happy with my fascinate until a significant upgrade comes along
^^ What he said. There is no reason to buy the Charge unless you're desperate for 4G. I'll get it and do at least kernel work if I can get enough support to buy one, otherwise, I'd hold off for the SGSII.
If I can get a Charge, I'd attempt to get an AOSP/CM ROM going for it, but given the success that jt1134/kaos have had with it on the Fascinate, I wouldn't expect a fully working ROM ever, unless someone else would get one as well. However, creating deodexed and debloated ROMs would be no issue at all, and I planned on doing that already.
You're da man...thanks
There is no GS2 scheduled for release on Verizon this year. The Charge will more than likely be the flagship Samsung LTE handset for Verizon and followed up by the 7" and 10.1" LTE Galaxy Tabs end of May or early June. With the delay of the Charge release you can almost be certain that it will push back the release of any new LTE handset that was scheduled. Samsung needs to recoup on the R&D/marketing of this phone and Verizon is obligated to make this happen.
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There is no GS2 scheduled for release on Verizon this year. The Charge will more than likely be the flagship Samsung LTE handset for Verizon and followed up by the 7" and 10.1" LTE Galaxy Tabs end of May or early June. With the delay of the Charge release you can almost be certain that it will push back the release of any new LTE handset that was scheduled. Samsung needs to recoup on the R&D/marketing of this phone and Verizon is obligated to make this happen.
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Are you the ceo of verizon? Cud otherwise its tough to say that the sgs2 won't make its way there
Att just is releasing the infuse 4g and the att compatible sgs2 just cleared the fcc....so its not like one can't follow rather quickly
Would the sgs2 vzw variant make it out before august though? Probably not
Look what vzw did with the droid 2 and the droid 2 global and now the bolt and inc 2
Considering how thin the SGS2 is and how tightly packed the internals are it likely won't ship until the next gen of LTE chips are ready. They CDMA + LTE is a fatter phone and the SGS2 is all about thin and sexy, not portly and ugly.
That said EOY could happen, but my money says CES 2012 for Verizon since the Charge is still not out.
Now the Infuse caught my eye today and I have searched for the SGS2 info (I want the SAMOLED+ screen) and a better phone, but not jazzed about AT&T and I have not heard much about AT&T release date.
So for me the money is on the Droid Charge especially given how AT&T is now marketing their BS 4G on the with upgraded backhaul mumbo jumbo.
I'm not the CEO of Verizon but I have reliable contacts at Samsung that have informed of the Verizon product lineup coming from Samsung.
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Not trying to brag but how do you think I was able to score a Droid Charge before the release? My sources are very reliable.
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Everytime I read an article on the gs2 it specs slways say gsm in case you didnt know we over here at verizon are cdma+lte, so I dont see this version coming any time soon, besides I stay in atlanta and were in 4g heaven here. So I couldnt go back to in of those other so called 3gs aka 4g companies
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Everytime I read an article on the gs2 it specs slways say gsm in case you didnt know we over here at verizon are cdma+lte, so I dont see this version coming any time soon, besides I stay in atlanta and were in 4g heaven here. So I couldnt go back to in of those other so called 3gs aka 4g companies
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The original SGS was GSM as well, and it came to Verizon via the Fascinate. I'd go with a time frame of Aug/Sept/Oct for the SGSII on VZW. As for "sources inside Samsung", those same sources said the Fascinate would get Froyo OTA in November last year, not April of this year, so I wouldn't trust any source inside Samsung...
ok so i guess no one else is concerned about the charge being updated like i am.
the main debate seems to be whether or not the upgrade from fascinate to charge is worth $300.
so what is different between the two?(besides 4g)
charge has better camera
is that about it? both have 1ghz processor and 512 ram rom
Super AMOLED screens
I live 40min south of San Jose CA
and i don't think the 4g reaches down here
i was totally ready to buy this
but now i am comparing the specs of the two phones i am not sure.
and most the views here seem to be split
either for or against
and maybe one for the thunderbolt.
How long do you guys think the Infuse 4G will last in the Market of ever improving phones? Will it last the next few years, say until an upgrade is eligible? Or will it simply fall apart compared to upcoming phones in the next few years? Personally, I love my Infuse, and I think it'll last at least a year to three in terms of specs and software. Please, discuss.
Ok, this is one thing you need to learn when it comes to new phones / laptops/ technology in general. In a year, IT WILL BE OUTDATED. I got the Samsung Captivate and could not imagine a better phone ---besides it's constant GPS issues and until the charging port broke on it...but that was partly my fault. I got this phone and it is great as well--even better than the Captivate. At the time, I did not think that was possible.
The thing you want to do is buy a quality product for the time. The Infuse is one of those things. If you take good care of it, it will last you. I fell off of my bike a few weeks back going downhill. I was pretty banged up. My Infuse, even though it was in a case, got pretty banged up--- cosmetically around those silver edges. It is fully functioning otherwise. It is a solid product. It will last you a long time if you don't abuse it.
For example -- -I still have the Samsung Blackjack 2 as my backup phone and I use it when my "newer and better" phones give me problems. I've had it for forever. It is still a good phone despite being years old. You have a decent phone now--- we all do, as far as the Infuse is concerned. I haven't heard too many complaints, but only time can tell if that will change. Treat it well and it will remain good to you.
The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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I'm just asking if you guys think it'll last the above-average Android user the next few years. I know it's already outdated. It was probably outdated before it even came out.
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depends on the user. there isnt much the phone can't do but it depends on samsung releasing updates and on the community to put out quality mods. to be honest with a good rom a droid could still be a viable phone. my friend has a nexus1 and loves it. i actually kinda envy it, i love the screen and media capabilities on samsung phones but as a phone the nexus is perfect and there is no reason it should need to be anything more.
i have a phone lust though. i will likely get the sgsiii or whatever comes after the sgsii long before my contract is up.
The Infuse right now is still the absolute best phone on AT&T.
And will stay that way till the SGS 2 comes out....
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The sg2 looks identical to the infuse(slightly smaller on at&t) , except with a better resolution and much better cpu, so I think the infuse will be obsolete when the sg2 hits the states. Nevertheless, I love my infuse and I think it's one of the best phones out right now.
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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.
I was looking at the specs of Galaxy II and the one thing I won't switch my infuse for is battery. It has 1600mA while Infuse has 1750mA. So when it comes to dual CPU, it should drain battery down pretty bad. I mean why will you ever even use that power on the phone unless you compute rocket science data using it. 4G also has a big mouth for drinking the juice out of your phone.
I'm not trying to say it is horible, it just would be a major concern if I'm a heavy data user.
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phones are always out of date typically within 6 months of being released there will be a higher end phone, with few exceptions. (i use to sell phones personally)
anyways, i had a samsung captivate which was the best phone when it came out, currently out of date, but it broke i payed money throuh insurance and luckily they were out so i got an infuse. very happy so far, and i can save my upgrade, im going to wait till i get a high spec (probably htc) lte phone
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Sgs2 and infuse have the same resolution. 480x800 wvga.
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Sgs2 has a smaller screen...therfore it will seem to have better resolution next to the infuse...
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6 weeks, at best.
Coming from the Captivate it's already boring.
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The phone is already outdated when you bought it, but that is the rule with all tech lol. Will it last 5 years. If you take care of it sure but will it still be getting upgrades. Most likely not sense we are seeing higher and higher system requirements to run the newer updates.
It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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It is confirmed the nexus S will get the ics update, hardware wise there's no reason the infused couldn't handle the update also. It's up to att and Sammy.
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I am not saying it couldnt handle it, just saying that after the first OS update I would not look for any others. IF it gets 1 more after that then it will be lucky. As for the Nexus S, I had great hopes for it but then I found the Nexus S was by samsung and thought ok ill wait for the next and not the new prime may be a samsung as well so looks like ill wait till the next nexus is an HTC. But if it is a samsung or HTC as long as the phone is bought through ATT dont expect to get the same number of updates as the Euro versions of the same phone. They always will get more updates then its US counter parts. As always been the case and always will be.
This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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This is why the nexus line is a safe bet typically, as it is 'googles' phone, the updates are fast and frequent. The S is a Sammy, but no need to wait on them making the updates play nice with tw .
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Yup thats why my next device will be a Nexus, as long as it is not made by samsung