Please help a newbie (install Android Market 2.3.6) - General Questions and Answers

I did a factory reset on my Samsung Moment (stock DJ07), but now Android Market is not updating to version 2.3.6. I've searched the forums and downloaded every APK with version 2.3.6. I've tried, unsuccessfully, to install the files using ASTRO, which I know works because I was able to install 2.3.4.
I'd like to ask anybody who has an untouched, signed, stock version of the 2.3.6 Android Market that will work with 2.1 (Eclair) to please provide me with a link to download it. I'm not interested in rooting this phone.
Thanks in advance.

you won't be able to do much without rooting, and it might also be that because you are on eclair that might be the latest version available to you

ld006 said:
you won't be able to do much without rooting
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A stock phone can install programs from unknown sources if the option is enabled. Since that's all I want to do, I don't need to root.
ld006 said:
it might also be that because you are on eclair that might be the latest version available to you
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I've heard of people with HTC Heros getting the 2.3.6 update, but I don't know why the versions floating around won't work on my phone.

What we're trying to tell you is that having the phone rooted makes it that much easier to troubleshoot problems like the one you're experiencing. For example, if I'm purposely replacing my market apk with a different one, I usually uninstall, and then push the new version to the system folder using ADB. Astro only SOMETIMES works when installing apk's, even with unknown sources checked.

ASTRO installed version 2.3.4 without problems, as well as version 2.2.7 when it came out.
I wasn't aware that rooting my phone was necessary to get help here. Thanks anyway.

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ivanolo said:
ASTRO installed version 2.3.4 without problems, as well as version 2.2.7 when it came out.
I wasn't aware that rooting my phone was necessary to get help here. Thanks anyway.
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no-one is trying to be rude to you or imply that to get help you HAVe to have a rooted device, we are just trying to help in saying that having it rooted helps, and thus provide a method for which you could take care of the problem. no need to get hostile, just trying to be helpful.

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General root question

Hi there,
its maybe a stupid question, but what the hell...
..when you update your sofware. from 1.6 to 2.1 or 2.1 to 2.2
do you have to root your device again? or does it stay rootted?
and do you also have to reinstall all your files again or not?
thanks
I was wondering something similar. I was wondering that if I root my Vibrant now, will I have problems when t-mobile pushes the 2.2 update?
If I wont ill root my phone, if i will ill leave it alone until the 2.2 push
K.D.M. said:
Hi there,
its maybe a stupid question, but what the hell...
..when you update your sofware. from 1.6 to 2.1 or 2.1 to 2.2
do you have to root your device again? or does it stay rootted?
and do you also have to reinstall all your files again or not?
thanks
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If you are already rooted and updating the ROM version, you will NOT loose root. As long as you keep with the custom built ROMs, you'll stay rooted.
If the ROM requires a wipe, then you will loose all your files. There are ROMs that are no-wipe, which allow you to upgrade to the newer version without having to reset your phone.
Kryo_genik said:
I was wondering something similar. I was wondering that if I root my Vibrant now, will I have problems when t-mobile pushes the 2.2 update?
If I wont ill root my phone, if i will ill leave it alone until the 2.2 push
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Do NOT download the T-Mobile 2.2 update if you receive it on your phone. You'll more than likely loose root.
Either download the custom built ROM (not sure if the Vibrant has) or stick with your current version.
thanks for clearing this up...
akapoor said:
Do NOT download the T-Mobile 2.2 update if you receive it on your phone. You'll more than likely loose root.
Either download the custom built ROM (not sure if the Vibrant has) or stick with your current version.
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im not rooted now so its no big deal. however once it pushed ill just root it then and call it done.
I'm not 100% but I think everyone who did the OTA update to 2.2 are now finding that all the rooting tutorials are for 2.1 and cannot root until updated tutorials make their way out. With that said, I would root now while you're still on 2.1 and completely avoid your stock OTA 2.2 update. You'll be able to still update to 2.2 but it will be on a custom rom... win-win.
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A little off the op's post, but....
I have a motorola droid, just updated to the froyo 2.2 OTA. Rooted it easily with UniversalAndroot.apk.
i had rooted my galaxy S
and my device can't go into the download mode
because of the software/ hardware problem ( 3button can't use)
can i fresh a new rom without download mode?'
my rom is Eclair.dtjg4 now

[Q] Rebuild Laptop and now what to do?

Hi,
I had to rebuild my laptop and Now I have win 7 64 bit. I was earlier rooted and installed Kies successfully. I have following build
Model Number : SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
Firmware Version : 2.1-update1
Baseband version : I897UCJF6
Kernen version : 2.6.29
[email protected] #2
Build Number : ECLAIR
I want to install Kies and the ability to sync my phone with the computer. Now I am getting very confused. I see many threads with some new Kies Version. I see the threads with the new rooting and I think new OS build also and it fixed GPS issues?
I also read the new guide for rooting and it says that I will be able to sync up with my iTunes etc..
Can someone please help me in understanding the sequence in which I should update?
Thanks a lot for help.
ask_j said:
Hi,
I had to rebuild my laptop and Now I have win 7 64 bit. I was earlier rooted and installed Kies successfully. I have following build
Model Number : SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
Firmware Version : 2.1-update1
Baseband version : I897UCJF6
Kernen version : 2.6.29
[email protected] #2
Build Number : ECLAIR
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I'm assuming your phone is still rooted? You would want to update to I897UCJH7. That is the updated 2.1 rom that was originally sent over the air (ota). You would not want to perform the ota update with a rooted phone, however. There is a mini-kies way of installing it. This helped some people with GPS issues, but was not considered a real fix. See here: http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=558&AT_ID=338212
I want to install Kies and the ability to sync my phone with the computer. Now I am getting very confused. I see many threads with some new Kies Version. I see the threads with the new rooting and I think new OS build also and it fixed GPS issues?
I also read the new guide for rooting and it says that I will be able to sync up with my iTunes etc..
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I have never had an iPod or iPhone, so I never used iTunes. I do remember reading that there is an app that can take the place of iTunes, or something like that, but I'm sorry, I don't remember the details. You will be able to install the full version of kies on Windows 7, but you will probably have to download it from the Samsung UK site, or somewhere. (That's different from mini-kies, btw.) Follow the instructions in one of the threads about that. But I don't know from personal experience if you will be able to do the syncing you want.
Can someone please help me in understanding the sequence in which I should update?
Thanks a lot for help.
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Hope that helps a little. Maybe someone else can fill in more.
Still few questions.
creepyncrawly said:
I'm assuming your phone is still rooted? You would want to update to I897UCJH7. That is the updated 2.1 rom that was originally sent over the air (ota). You would not want to perform the ota update with a rooted phone, however. There is a mini-kies way of installing it. This helped some people with GPS issues, but was not considered a real fix. See here: http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=558&AT_ID=338212
I have never had an iPod or iPhone, so I never used iTunes. I do remember reading that there is an app that can take the place of iTunes, or something like that, but I'm sorry, I don't remember the details. You will be able to install the full version of kies on Windows 7, but you will probably have to download it from the Samsung UK site, or somewhere. (That's different from mini-kies, btw.) Follow the instructions in one of the threads about that. But I don't know from personal experience if you will be able to do the syncing you want.
Hope that helps a little. Maybe someone else can fill in more.
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I am rooted. So what is procedure of upgrading in case of I am rooted. Also If I install mini Kies to upgrade, will I be able to install full kies version? Or I do not need full Kies version as the mini kies can take care of syncing the phone with computer?
Last question is related to 2.1. Some people refer to 2.2 also? Is that stable build? or should I wait some more time before upgrade to 2.2? I mean currently upgrade to 2.1 and then wait for some more time to upgrade to 2.2?
Please help
ask_j said:
I am rooted. So what is procedure of upgrading in case of I am rooted.
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You would not want to perform the ota update while rooted. People who tried it found it borked their phone in some way. But the mini-kies method works with a rooted phone. I'm not even sure AT&T is still pushing out the ota anyway.
Also If I install mini Kies to upgrade, will I be able to install full kies version? Or I do not need full Kies version as the mini kies can take care of syncing the phone with computer?
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I don't really know. Never had mini-kies installed. I updated to JH7 by installing Cognition. I'm currently running Cognition 2.1.6. If you use mini-kies to install the update, you can presumably uninstall it, just like any other windows program, after you complete the update and before you install the full kies version.
Last question is related to 2.1. Some people refer to 2.2 also? Is that stable build? or should I wait some more time before upgrade to 2.2? I mean currently upgrade to 2.1 and then wait for some more time to upgrade to 2.2?
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2.1 Eclair is stable. 2.2 Froyo is not officially released as yet. A 2.2 version was leaked about a month or so ago, but it must be considered a beta version. There are bugs and other issues still not resolved. However, there are several roms available based on the leaked version of 2.2, and at least one based on a more recent leaked version. Hundreds of people are running some version of Froyo. You just have to decided if the bugs and issues are a problem for you vs whether you need / want the new features. As I said, I'm still running eclair (cognition 2.1.6) and will wait until after the official 2.2 release to upgrade.

rooting!

just installed gingerbread on my htc desire hd. and now my root has gone. i know VISIONary wont work on this yet so is there any other way to gain root access??
Hard to say. Sometimes official updates are designed by the carrier along with the manufacturer to disable any root access. If it was an update that required a wipe first, then definitely root will be lost.
Sometimes it's better to find a ROM that has a great reputation for frequent updates and stick with them, however, if you've lost root thanks to the latest update then you may be waiting a while for someone to figure out how to root this latest update to your phone unless you made sure to get something on there like RA that will let you wipe the phone and restore from a previous nandroid backup.
Gingerbreak...
hey could u please explain to me how u installed the gingerbread on ur htc desire hd...i have an unrooted one so idk if its possible to install the new gingerbread RUU but my downgrading process keeps failing (CID Error). I've got my phone running on 1.84.720.3...if you could please help me I would really appreciate it.
However, I've read around the forum and people are claiming that you can reroot your phone with Gingerbreak. Im not sure exactly how..im really new to this but im sure you can find out how to use gingerbreak by searching for it...
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Hard to say. Sometimes official updates are designed by the carrier along with the manufacturer to disable any root access. If it was an update that required a wipe first, then definitely root will be lost.
Sometimes it's better to find a ROM that has a great reputation for frequent updates and stick with them, however, if you've lost root thanks to the latest update then you may be waiting a while for someone to figure out how to root this latest update to your phone unless you made sure to get something on there like RA that will let you wipe the phone and restore from a previous nandroid backup.
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i installed the update from a zip file on the net. it was the official update though and did require a wipe of user data and cache. it wont let me restore from my back up now as my clockmodrecovery has now gone kinda wishing i never updated, gingerbread isnt all that different anyway as htc have the htc sense face on top of android! hmmm!! what to do lol!!
sagarsaoji said:
hey could u please explain to me how u installed the gingerbread on ur htc desire hd...i have an unrooted one so idk if its possible to install the new gingerbread RUU but my downgrading process keeps failing (CID Error). I've got my phone running on 1.84.720.3...if you could please help me I would really appreciate it.
However, I've read around the forum and people are claiming that you can reroot your phone with Gingerbreak. Im not sure exactly how..im really new to this but im sure you can find out how to use gingerbreak by searching for it...
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you mean the CID on making a gold card. how are you making the gold card?? with hex editing or with a software that does it for you?? i found i had the same problem so i used a hex editor, then worked first time. whats your email, i will send you all the links i used
finally got it to work. Now officially running gingerbread have u tried to gingerbreak? Also is there anyway to restore the applications from the SD card to the phone without the apk file?
well im not quite sure about the apps as i havent really messed around with it myself yet :/ i have tried doing the gingerbreak but came across a few problems, but i will carry on and keep trying how did you manage to sort your CID issue??
Yeah finally got the goldcard to work haven't tried to gingerbreak yet...not sure if its worth rooting since I already have gingerbread with sense running...any reason I should root?
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Need Market apk

Hi guys,
I just got myself the new Asus TF101 16Gb with the keypad version.
I bought it in China and I saw that there is no MARKET installed. It has the Hi-apk market which has everything in Chinese. Can someone please help me out. How do I get the MARKET apk. Can anyone email me the apk.
Please help.
Regards,
Abinav
Instead of trying to get the US version of the market apk to work on a WW version of stock, I'd recommend just taking the plunge and install a custom ROM onto it. That should already have everything you need pre-installed in it.
If you're not familure with custom ROMs, its not that scary. But you do have to be rooted first. It looks like someone has come up with a superoneclick for all versions. I haven't personally tried it, but that might be your easiest bet at this point. Or you could use the batch file method, which I'm more inclined to do since I don't want to burn a CD.
After that, you should be able to install a custom ROM, which I recommend Prime v1.7 final as it seems to be the crowd favorite around here and has many other themes and mods specifically designed for it. I'm not sure where to download the WW version, but I know he's made them in the past. You might pop over to the thread and ask about it.
i donno if the honeycomb apk will work on your firmware or model cuz u need root but u can try the new phone version apk http://www.filesonic.com/file/1500634081/com.android.vending.apk
donno if the device will give access to the market regardless cuz its a chinese model it may have to be rom flashed to get new ww firmware in there

[Q] Rooting Galaxy s3

Hi I am new here and new to rooting, I tried looking through things here, and its a bit overwhelming. I have a Galaxy S3 miniGT - 18190N......I was just wondering, can it be rooted, and how easy is it. I have never done it before, but am willing to learn. Please can somebody help....thank you.
johnmwc2 said:
Hi I am new here and new to rooting, I tried looking through things here, and its a bit overwhelming. I have a Galaxy S3 miniGT - 18190N......I was just wondering, can it be rooted, and how easy is it. I have never done it before, but am willing to learn. Please can somebody help....thank you.
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i didnt know the galaxy s3 mini had a forum on xda, http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-mini ask the real pro's here Mate
johnmwc2 said:
Hi I am new here and new to rooting, I tried looking through things here, and its a bit overwhelming. I have a Galaxy S3 miniGT - 18190N......I was just wondering, can it be rooted, and how easy is it. I have never done it before, but am willing to learn. Please can somebody help....thank you.
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try cydiaimpactor , it work fine for me
1.download it on your pc
2.allow debug usb an duknown source on your phone setting(developper setting)
3.connect your phone to your pc
4.start impactor
5.press start
WOW ROOOOOOT FINISHHHH
http://www.cydiaimpactor.com/
Thanks for your replies I really appreciate it. I am sorry its in the wrong place, I did look, but I couldnt find it.
@AXD96....if i use that, are there updates for it, and also if I need to unroot it is it possible. Its still under guarantee.
Thanks again.
Can I ask, if somebody could explain, whats the difference between flashing and rooting, having the phone locked or unlocked and how that affects both, being able to use kies, how does that work, if its been rooted.
johnmwc2 said:
Thanks for your replies I really appreciate it. I am sorry its in the wrong place, I did look, but I couldnt find it.
@AXD96....if i use that, are there updates for it, and also if I need to unroot it is it possible. Its still under guarantee.
Thanks again.
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yes the update yes but you must use cydia 1 time after you will get root access you must install superuser or supersu from playstore and you should do these updates from play store
if you are thinking about firmware update the answer is always yes! )
you cant do updates if you change bootloader,if you want to change rom you MUST change bootloader
johnmwc2 said:
Can I ask, if somebody could explain, whats the difference between flashing and rooting, having the phone locked or unlocked and how that affects both, being able to use kies, how does that work, if its been rooted.
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android is based off linux. and pretty much has everything a linux computer has except Super user/admin like we have on windows. pretty much rooting is running a exploit to get Super user so we can run applications/ flash OS and other goodies. locked and unlocked have to do with the bootloader. im not the best guy with knowing what a boot loader is but pretty much it boots your OS. if its locked you are unable to flash unsigned Roms so no custom roms pretty much. im not sure why Samsung cant update their phones ota sometimes so they use kies. maybe the file is big enough that it cant be carried ota.
AXD96 said:
yes the update yes but you must use cydia 1 time after you will get root access you must install superuser or supersu from playstore and you should do these updates from play store
if you are thinking about firmware update the answer is always yes! )
you cant do updates if you change bootloader,if you want to change rom you MUST change bootloader
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Hi, thank you, I dont want to change the rom, I just want to root......
So after I have rooted, exactly what else needs to be downloaded from the play store.......
johnmwc2 said:
Can I ask, if somebody could explain, whats the difference between flashing and rooting, having the phone locked or unlocked and how that affects both, being able to use kies, how does that work, if its been rooted.
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flashing=install some software (brutal force Haha) with flashing you install(copy)data on your phone maybe a firmware,
flashing is used with pc while you flash a firmware or the clockworkmod...
flashing is also used while we speaking about recovery when you install a zip...
routing is the procedure to add superuser function to your android
you can get root flashing a firmware that has included the root
or get it using some exploit
exploit=android bug
there are a lot of bug in android versionS
for example today there arent exploit avariable on android 4.4 and 4.3 but there are 1 or more in android 4.2 4.1
and there are a lot of bug in android 2.3 this os the same of iOS on iPhone, in apple world we talk about JAILBREACK...
if you would like to try to root using exploit you can try FRAMAROOT an app or CYDIAIMPACTOR a software on pc
if you would like to flash a firmware with root you should use ODIN
Trozzul said:
android is based off linux. and pretty much has everything a linux computer has except Super user/admin like we have on windows. pretty much rooting is running a exploit to get Super user so we can run applications/ flash OS and other goodies. locked and unlocked have to do with the bootloader. im not the best guy with knowing what a boot loader is but pretty much it boots your OS. if its locked you are unable to flash unsigned Roms so no custom roms pretty much. im not sure why Samsung cant update their phones ota sometimes so they use kies. maybe the file is big enough that it cant be carried ota.
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Thank you. That explains it really well. I dont want to change the rom, just to root the phone.
johnmwc2 said:
Hi, thank you, I dont want to change the rom, I just want to root......
So after I have rooted, exactly what else needs to be downloaded from the play store.......
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after root reboot and install from playstore SUPERSU :')
Ax Repost
hit a problem, I downloaded Cydia to my macbook pro, installed it, selected debugging mode and accept downloads from unknown sources, opened Cydia and the drop down option has 'drop SuperSU su to /system/xbin/su' clicked on start and immediately kies wants to open, and then Cydia says 'Error signature bugs unavailable'. What does that mean and why has it happened.
Thank you
Did I mention that it is running 4.1.2.....does this need 4.3?
So much said in one post :thumbup::thumbup:
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Sorry, I have told you continuously, its the first time I've done it........thats a bit unfair.....and I had to be told to add that. I take it by that comment it doesnt work on 4.1.2.........can it be rooted at all?
I dont see anywhere that the Galaxy s3 mini cant be rooted, and I see others using 4.1.2 being rooted. So can somebody explain? And looking on the Impactor website it doesnt say anything about that either......
johnmwc2 said:
I dont see anywhere that the Galaxy s3 mini cant be rooted, and I see others using 4.1.2 being rooted. So can somebody explain? And looking on the Impactor website it doesnt say anything about that either......
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sorry i was a little late, i have never heard of that cydia app that guy was talking about and i looked it up and it has nothing to do with rooting.
so i looked it up like i promised and i found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459910 should work on 4.1.2 the guy said its in Chinese and if you look down there's pictures to find your way through it. yeah once its rooted it should have superuser or SuperSU (same thing made by different people) if it is not on there you might have to download it from the playstore just look one of them up (chainfires SuperSU is recommended) and install it and get a root checker from the playstore as well. Update me if anything happens.
Trozzul said:
sorry i was a little late, i have never heard of that cydia app that guy was talking about and i looked it up and it has nothing to do with rooting.
so i looked it up like i promised and i found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459910 should work on 4.1.2 the guy said its in Chinese and if you look down there's pictures to find your way through it. yeah once its rooted it should have superuser or SuperSU (same thing made by different people) if it is not on there you might have to download it from the playstore just look one of them up (chainfires SuperSU is recommended) and install it and get a root checker from the playstore as well. Update me if anything happens.
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Hi, thanks for the post.....I wonder, I read through all that thread, and it even posted to an English version from the company itself. Problem is, on the English version thread, they actually closed it because of some security risks. I will see about using it, and follow the instructions. Can it be unrooted.....
johnmwc2 said:
Hi, thanks for the post.....I wonder, I read through all that thread, and it even posted to an English version from the company itself. Problem is, on the English version thread, they actually closed it because of some security risks. I will see about using it, and follow the instructions. Can it be unrooted.....
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you should be able to unroot, if you want to, check zedomaxs method www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpmzR-VfQxo‎

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