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Out of main memory....help please

Although I have all photos, music, apps etc pointed to 'external' memory I am now getting low memory (<2MB) warnings. I have manaully purged (as much as I feel confident with) main memory and even uninstalled and re-installed programs to ensure that they reside in external memory. However when I search for files >64KB there are no files reported in main. This is driving me crazy and I need help before I microwave my HTC Diamond. Please, please point me in the right direction

The messages are probably not for storage memory but for either RAM or virtual memory. Close applications instead of minimizing them (the usual default). Get a task manager and see what's going on.

I hoped that that was the case however I have a RAM cleaner tool and even after running that and killing all processes I still have low memory. Is there any way I can determine what is taking up main memory?

you know one of my friends has the same problem with his samsung omni and i can't for the life of me find what is taking up so much room. he is pretty back to stock and we have tried everything. i tell him to return his phone as defective but he hasn't. is this a winmo problem that could be a bad code or is it just dumb luck that this has happened to an htc and samsung?

Calendar items, phone logs, messages reside in main memory too -- have you cleared those?

I do use the calendar and maybe clearing some of the old entries will help. However I do not use the handset as a voice phone, only data, and have no call logs or texts taking up space. I do use it for email so will check that too. That said it's currently using 83.36MB out of 84.56MB and doubt if the odd deletions will make a great difference. Is there a way of partitioning some of the storage card space over to extend the main storage area?

You can relocate \My Documents pretty easily with a registry change. You can also move your PIE cache (sk tools will help with this). These things might help. I thought the diamond had 4G of internal memory? Does it have a small main memory and then a large internal storage memory? I'm afraid I'm not that familiar with it.
You may want to install ClearTemp or something similar to clean out your temp and volatile folders. And you're sure it's not a ram issue? Do you have the problem immediately after a soft reset, or does it take a while?

I may have been leading you down the garden path. When I run the memory app' in Settings there are two totals: Storage and Program. In storage 82.7MB out of 84.5MB is in use and in program 78MB out of 111MB is in use. The Diamond complains of being almost out of memory shortly after it is turned on. Without a guide to follow I'm a little ill at ease attempting registry changes even though I have advanced config and PHM RegEdit installed. I will try ClearTemp if I can install it! Thanks for the help to date.

Does anyone know how to clear out the 'storage' area of the HTC as Opera is now refusing to run (not enough cache space...?) I'm facing the prospect of reloading the firmware (again) with no confidence I won't be back in this situation again in a couple of months

The out-of-memory warning message is activated after the ram memory is lower than a desired value .
The activation pattern and the threshold value are controlled by a set of registry entries under \HKCU\Software\Htc\TaskManager\
Can Play With It By Changing The Threshold Value In Registry.

Thanks for that, however at < 1-2MB of storage area remaining my problem is how do I recover storage capacity? I used ClearTemp and I now have around 7MB free which is much better though not ideal. Surely there must be a way of tweaking the storage / program balance through one of the toolkits?

I had the same prob few month back. The best way is to Hard reset > reinstall programs your REALLY NEED to internal storage except .net C Framework or Smart Protect etc... [install those types of programs to main memory]
The other way is
Buy SkTools if you dont have it
move things ie. programs to internal storage!

I select internal memory every time I install an app which further mystifies me. Now I can't get Opera to run.... it's just a year of break downs for me

Help Resyncing everything / Reset?

So I have this problem with storagespace and reserved space.
2,5gb Music
175mb videos,
25mb pictures
3,5GB!!! Reserved space from other computers Even though I have set Reserved settings to 0%.
There is probably something wrong here so I need to resync everything.
So the question is, how do I do that without loosing my apps?
Is a hardreset the only way?
If so, will I get back the non free apps?
Is there a smarter way than hard reseting?

Experiences I made concerning this is that most often a simple soft reset (just shut down and restart the device) frees some space. If that doesn't help, you can delete all your synched data and resynch it again. This way you won't lose your apps. Deleting your data is quite simple. Launch Zune and go to settings. On the top of the list it says "synchronisation settings" or something similar. Choose that and scroll down in the right part of the window. On the very bottom there are two options to choose from. The left one should say "delete my data" or so (I have the German version, so I don't exactly know what it is called in the English version).

Thanx! I will try that!
But I think there is some app-installation etc that has screwed upp the memory on the phone. And to get rid of that I guess a hard-reset is the only way?

Possibly. But most storage related issue I came across so far where always caused by an aborted or a somehow erroneous synchronisation.

nizzon said:
So I have this problem with storagespace and reserved space.
2,5gb Music
175mb videos,
25mb pictures
3,5GB!!! Reserved space from other computers Even though I have set Reserved settings to 0%.
There is probably something wrong here so I need to resync everything.
So the question is, how do I do that without loosing my apps?
Is a hardreset the only way?
If so, will I get back the non free apps?
Is there a smarter way than hard reseting?
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I think if you sync on more than one pc it duplicates the storage.

Or... That space is where your apps are stored.
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[Q] storage problem/free space -- what is taking up so much??

So starting off with this phone I know it doesn't have the best internal storage. When apps are moved to the SD some of the app stays behind on the internal storage, I know that. I have had 2 shifts. My first one i dropped, cracked the screen, and the insurance gave me a new one. On my first shift at the time I had about 70mb of free space left when I sent it in. Before sending it I made a titanium backup and restored that on my shift I have today. When I restored it I had about 120mb of free space. (NOT THE PROBLEM READ ON)
So the point is something in the system is causing massive storage to fill up over time, and its not apps. I have force moved apps and that only helps a little. Is it a certin cache that I can clear? please help!
At the moment I have 60mb of free storage, that is with the app cache cleared through App2SD

Right I have the following : System ROM 219MB , Internal 222MB , SD Card 8.32 GB . When you long press on an app in TB it should give you the option to move to SD card. You shouldn't have to force move an app. When you restored all your apps did you restore apps and data? Or just the app? Also after restoring with TB you need to make sure the app was restored to the correct place. There's an option I usually check in the preferances before I restore all my apps. It restores to the previous location you had the app. Hope that helps.

I restored the apps and data... This isn't a problem with tb, its a problem with some storage/cache something building up in the system
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My email took up a lot of storage on my old hero because everytime I deleted something it still stayed on a new folder called imap/trash... it was taking up about 50mb so you might want to look into that
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In your sd card or internal? There was a folder on my sd called .trashes and it had everything I had deleted on my sd. Where exactly is it located? Ill look in root explorer.
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Don't know if your restoring SMS with something. But if your are sometimes that takes up hella space. Did a phone that had over 25MB of SMS messages restore back onto it on internal mem.

i will see, i also use a tool called disk usage. you have probubly heard of it but it maps out everything and the amount of space it takes up. you can narrow the results to a certin cache or whatever. ive seen that apps like pandora are taking up space in the dalvik cache. Its only like a mb or 2 but still. do you know anything about apps storing things in the dalvik?
what is the dalvik even for anyway?

I've been trying to go back to stock today, so I've wiped a few times, but I've got 430MB total space internal, with 366MB free

and.....
i dont understand what this has to do with this thread

im.nick.hello said:
i will see, i also use a tool called disk usage. you have probubly heard of it but it maps out everything and the amount of space it takes up. you can narrow the results to a certin cache or whatever. ive seen that apps like pandora are taking up space in the dalvik cache. Its only like a mb or 2 but still. do you know anything about apps storing things in the dalvik?
what is the dalvik even for anyway?
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I beleive dalvik cache gets recreated everytime you reboot. But, about Pandora is it on the SD Card? Or internal mem? I listen to a TON of music. When I had Pandora on internal it was up to 12MB .So I moved it to the SD card, only 536KB on internal now.

My app is on the SD but it is storing over 1mb on internal
If you have DiskUsage go to the [root required] section and press 'App Storage'
if you can find pandora you will see that most of it is stored in the dalvik cache

Sorry I don't use DiskUsage app. Your right about how much is on internal. Mine reads 1.28MB.

any idea what it is storing there?

Drawing a blank on this, I'll keep looking. See if I can come up with something. But I'd probably head on over to theMikMik and see if somebody there can help.

My biggest space hog when I had problems was email... Try clearing data for email or gmail to see what happens (maybe back up first)
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Mail or gmail app..
I have both, a aim on the mail app and my gmail on the gmail app
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i cleared my cache partition, not sure what was stored there but it doesnt matter cleared up 20mb... is there any other ways i can get more space??? why are apps storing data in the dalvik??

Any other suggestions here? My wife's Shift is having this problem. Constant notification about low storage space. Can't even download any new apps. I have not rooted her phone yet, and not sure if I will; I don't want to have her have to go without for any length of time, and I don't think she wants things changed around so much as she just wants the thing to work, not to have to tinker or troubleshoot.

Captain Spectacular said:
Any other suggestions here? My wife's Shift is having this problem. Constant notification about low storage space. Can't even download any new apps. I have not rooted her phone yet, and not sure if I will; I don't want to have her have to go without for any length of time, and I don't think she wants things changed around so much as she just wants the thing to work, not to have to tinker or troubleshoot.
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Did you download a lot of apps? Try moving the apps to the SD Card. The path is Menu-Settings-Applications-Manage applications-Downloaded. Then just click on the applications one at a time. If the button says Move to SD card, and isn't greyed out press it. That should free up some space. If that doesn't work since your not rooted, I would just try a factory reset.

clear the folder /data/tombstones. App crashes and such create rather large files that can eat up quite a bit of space. Also check the cache folder at the root, failed market installs will have file fragments in there as well.

[Q] Possible to recover sd-ext (lost very important app)

Main question:
I was wondering if there is a way to recover/undo the sd-ext formatting and restore it.
How it happened:
first i changed the status of many apps via link2sd, i chose create link, apparently at this point i had no damn idea how to use link2sd correctly. I then rebooted the phone, and all of those apps i did that to poofed out of existence (became generic andy icons and were unable to be opened, even link2sd) except for a few. then today i formatted the sd-ext in recovery mode and the phone basically went and got reset to the base rom i installed, cyanogenmod 7.2 rc0-lg-vm670-bobzhome-11182011. I did not CREATE LINK my IOU app or NOTES. these are the 2 apps i need back, i am having problems recovering iou, as notes had a recent auto save file.
after i wiped the sd-ext, i went into app management in the android settings menu and saw an entry for the app im trying to recover, but it was 0.00 bytes. so i went on my phone browser and downloaded the iou app. it didn't look like it was doing anything but when i came back to it an hour later it installed the iou app successfully, but with none of my data, the 0.00 entry also disappeared. Reinstalling link2sd, didn't do anything. I haven't done anything further.
I also have no market app icon to open, i had an old google play version on the sd card (Play v3_5_19.apk) but it keeps crashing, and my screen won't lock.
I'm only making a a big deal about this because the iou app was keeping track of about $400 worth of transactions between me and my girlfriend.
TL;DR: I need to restore an app's data, because i deleted the data when i wiped the sd-ext.
IOU - debt manager by S. Tubin

same ad HD drive recovery, if you didn't write some other things on SD card it might be done, use with your PC some software for recovery and and an SD reader

i tried r-studio. it couldn't see the 2nd partition. is that where sd-ext is located? or is it on the primary?
next time im going to remove the sd card and place it in a card reader instead.

Try linux recovery from disk internals
there are several app to see 2nd partition too,, like linux reader, ext2explore, etc

Main problem not solved but this other problem was: ok. ive gotten a new sd card. 16gb sandisk 4class.
partitioned it with 2048mb / 16gb. no swap file.
installed gapps: "CyanogenMod 7.1-2.x 2.3.5-7 20110828 (Google Talk with Video Chat Add-On)"
still cant get incoming calls (was a problem when i posted OP but i wasn't aware) or screenlock. and i can't shopkick anymore UNLESS i connect to the store's wi-fi (Target guest wi-fi), I am guessing this is a GPS problem? Google maps works tho.
about me not being able to get incoming calls: i can see their call in the call log after the call. my phone does not ring. i may get a vmail if they leave one. they get the vmail message immediately after 3 rings.
final edit: did a recover reset. can get calls and lock screen, now i just need to restore IOU.
here is what I have:
I recovered some files from my 4gb sd card:
Root\data\tubin.debts\database\debts (9 kb, last modified on the day I accidentally formatted my phone) This files seems to be the one that has the data. There are some other ones that say webview-XXX.
The author of the app said this:
This looks like the database file. This is where android apps store data. The apps never directly have access to this file though.
The only thing I can think of -- try replacing this file (new one) with the recovered one. Not sure this will work. Otherwise, you can try accessing in with some sqlite application on the pc.
Sorry, it's not about getting a pro version, I really can't help you on this one.

Decrease sd-ext partition to less than 1024mb ... and keep atleast 5mb free on system partition
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anaknin said:
Decrease sd-ext partition to less than 1024mb ... and keep atleast 5mb free on system partition
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda app-developers app
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what problem will this solve?
wtf, everything was fine, i rebooted bc my screen wouldn't do portrait and now the app store is gone completely. and there is no recovery mode.

Question System app "Media Storage" seemingly duplicating all of "media" files

I have a ROG 5 Tencent version with Global ROM, .86 build.
Found out that my storage was for some reason almost full. Checked on Android's storage manager and found that System App "Media Storage" is taking up 36.2GB of space. Also checked with DiskUsage, and it seems this "Media Storage" is exactly the same amount as all data under "media", which would be all videos and downloads (all non-app files). So it seems for some reason the data is being duplicated.
Upon research, I found two things:
1. This also happened to OnePlus users, and apparently the data isn't actually duplicated in Media Storage; it's just incorrectly displayed, and you can go above the displayed storage limit. If this is what is also happening, it's still a problem for me because if I try to sync data from my computer, it'll stop transferring because it'll detect my phone as full.
2. Happened to some users with WhatsApp. Doesn't apply to me because I don't have WhatsApp, nor have I ever installed it on this device.
The "Clear Storage" & "Clear Cache" options for Media Storage are also greyed out, so I have no clue how to proceed.
Anyone else run into this problem? Any solutions?
Edit: updated to .151, problem still exists.

Make sure all critical data is redundantly backed up.
Try force stopping the app. Still can't app clear its data?
Sync is so much easier but I always do cut/paste for backups... once bitten, twice shy.

blackhawk said:
Try force stopping the app. Still can't app clear its data?
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Doesn't give me an option to force stop Media Storage.

Could it be an apk with System Administrator rights be locking it out?

blackhawk said:
Could it be an apk with System Administrator rights be locking it out?
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Only apps with admin permissions are Find My Device, Nova7, Outlook. They are also all disabled.

reica said:
Only apps with admin permissions are Find My Device, Nova7, Outlook. They are also all disabled.
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I don't understand why it's locked down like that.
Is that normal for that device?

Make sure that under Settings -> Storage you don't have Storage manager enabled.
Media Storage isn't ACTUALLY taking up that space, though. You can't clear the data for it because it's technically not using it. It is just reporting how much data is taken up by media and the system incorrectly displays that as the amount of data used by the app.
If you look in Settings -> Storage and do the math on the totals, you'll find that the total doesn't match the one in the upper left. Taking Media Storage into consideration, I should be at 403 of 256 GB. Media Storage appears as 186 GB and my remaining storage is still 31 GB.

reica said:
I have a ROG 5 Tencent version with Global ROM, .86 build.
Found out that my storage was for some reason almost full. Checked on Android's storage manager and found that System App "Media Storage" is taking up 36.2GB of space. Also checked with DiskUsage, and it seems this "Media Storage" is exactly the same amount as all data under "media", which would be all videos and downloads (all non-app files). So it seems for some reason the data is being duplicated.
Upon research, I found two things:
1. This also happened to OnePlus users, and apparently the data isn't actually duplicated in Media Storage; it's just incorrectly displayed, and you can go above the displayed storage limit. If this is what is also happening, it's still a problem for me because if I try to sync data from my computer, it'll stop transferring because it'll detect my phone as full.
2. Happened to some users with WhatsApp. Doesn't apply to me because I don't have WhatsApp, nor have I ever installed it on this device.
The "Clear Storage" & "Clear Cache" options for Media Storage are also greyed out, so I have no clue how to proceed.
Anyone else run into this problem? Any solutions?
Edit: updated to .151, problem still exists.
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Hi! Quite late to the party, still posting just to ask if you found any solution to this "Media Storage" issue?
My OnePlus 9RT is having the same problem now. What is worst is it is not like just "incorrectly displayed" as some users said on Reddit, here and other forums. Recently my Media Storage size went up to 58Gb and then when I went to install Grid Autosport, which takes around 4Gb space, PlayStore showed me that I have to delete apps to make space for Grid!!! So, that means the Phone is reading this Media Storage app space, its not just a virtual/incorrectly displayed number!

jitd said:
Hi! Quite late to the party, still posting just to ask if you found any solution to this "Media Storage" issue?
My OnePlus 9RT is having the same problem now. What is worst is it is not like just "incorrectly displayed" as some users said on Reddit, here and other forums. Recently my Media Storage size went up to 58Gb and then when I went to install Grid Autosport, which takes around 4Gb space, PlayStore showed me that I have to delete apps to make space for Grid!!! So, that means the Phone is reading this Media Storage app space, its not just a virtual/incorrectly displayed number!
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I think you are confusing the words with a visual misrepresentation that can be ignored. As I posted last year, it means that media storage "thinks" the files are there and is telling the system that space is used, but the physical files don't exist. It is not that the space is actually available and it's being shown incorrectly. It's that the system is reserving that space for files that aren't present. If that weren't the case, then the answer would be simply to clean out your storage of any files you don't need and free up the space.

twistedumbrella said:
I think you are confusing the words with a visual misrepresentation that can be ignored. As I posted last year, it means that media storage "thinks" the files are there and is telling the system that space is used, but the physical files don't exist. It is not that the space is actually available and it's being shown incorrectly. It's that the system is reserving that space for files that aren't present. If that weren't the case, then the answer would be simply to clean out your storage of any files you don't need and free up the space.
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Which simply means what the OP posted. At the end of the day that space cannot be used and that's a problem. Technically you are correct but you have killed the discussion on this thread by twisting it into another direction. So let me try to bring it back.
Mediastorage is a problem! It is causing the system to reserve space unnecessarily. For every 1 GB that I consume, mediastorage consumes and equal amount of space (at least from the OS's POV).
@twistedumbrella Stop saying that it is a "visual representation". And you're 100% wrong. The answer isn't to clean out our own files. The answer is to stop mediastorage from causing the OS to reserve space unnecessarily.

mugenishere said:
Which simply means what the OP posted. At the end of the day that space cannot be used and that's a problem. Technically you are correct but you have killed the discussion on this thread by twisting it into another direction. So let me try to bring it back.
Mediastorage is a problem! It is causing the system to reserve space unnecessarily. For every 1 GB that I consume, mediastorage consumes and equal amount of space (at least from the OS's POV).
@twistedumbrella Stop saying that it is a "visual representation". And you're 100% wrong. The answer isn't to clean out our own files. The answer is to stop mediastorage from causing the OS to reserve space unnecessarily.
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Interesting. This problem is being seen on other makes as well. May be related to the OS version or the media storage app; they're all might be using the same open source code.
Or both together. Scoped storage sucks... just a guess.
Back up all critical data redundantly first then play with it to try to find the app(s) responsible as in indicated in the link above. Do some more Google searches for the same issue, it doesn't have to be your exact make/model neccesarily to apply.
Is it a clean load loaded after firmware upgrades? Was it hand loaded rather than a automated transfer app like Samsung's SmartSwitch? These apps are known troublemakers when going cross device or platform.
Try to develop a work around... more fun times with Android.
Play with it.

Got my Oneplus 9 same problem with os11. maybe only google can resolve this issue?

Were you able to fix or found a fix on this, i just checked mine and this "Media" app taking a lot of storage on my Xiaomi 11t pro