I unlocked the phone way back to flash a radio, never needed the sim unlock. Is there a way to tell that it is unlocked? I'm about to ship it overseas and want to make sure it's unlocked...
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Put in a sim card from another carrier. But if you bought the unlocker (not just hard spl, but the unlocker), then I'd say it's a pretty good bet that it worked. If the security unlock worked (check the bootloader), then I think the sim unlock must've worked as well.
I'm certain the unlocker worked as I was flashing non-AT&T radios. So the SIM unlock was integral to the unlocker and no additional work is needed when putting in the sim card?
I don't remember the exact order, but step 1 of the unlocker is to flash hard spl, I think step 2 may do the sim unlock, and then step 3 security unlocks the phone so you can flash diamond, HD and a few other radios from other devices (the carrier doesn't matter for radio flashing, it's the device). It also CID unlocks the phone right at the end (where you type in a new carrier id, and I think 000000 is unlocked). You can probably check the unlocker thread, but if you're security unlocked (which is easy to check), then I'm pretty sure you're sim unlocked.
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I am curious if flashing my AT&T tilt with the HTC software will allow me to use a sim card from another carrier. Has anyone tried this?
doctorphil said:
I am curious if flashing my AT&T tilt with the HTC software will allow me to use a sim card from another carrier. Has anyone tried this?
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Nope. Find something/someone/someway to SIM unlock phone. Not possible as of yet. ROM flashing will work only after you CID unlock your phone, which means you can flash different ROMs onto your phone than originally suppied.
Some post couple days ago talk about how to sim unlock already, just search for it and call the att number on there, it work for me.
maximuz329 said:
Some post couple days ago talk about how to sim unlock already, just search for it and call the att number on there, it work for me.
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haha, yeah, for some reason i never think to call up At&t for anything... i'm sure you can lie to your provider so they will give you the unlock code (at least until enough people use the same story verbatim to where they realize that it must be posted some discussion board as to how to get sim unlocked....)
I am still somewhat confused as to the unlocking aspect.
I know I can obtain the SIM unlock code for the Tilt from AT&T. Are you saying that it is still impossible to CID unlock the phone, once this has been done?
lorettaboy said:
I am still somewhat confused as to the unlocking aspect.
I know I can obtain the SIM unlock code for the Tilt from AT&T. Are you saying that it is still impossible to CID unlock the phone, once this has been done?
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SIM unlocking and CID unlocking are two different things.
CID unlocking allows you to use OS ROMs from other variants of the same hardware. i.e. HTC TyTn II ROM on a Tilt. CID unlocking can be done easily with HardSPL.
SIM unlocking allows you to use SIMs other than your carrier's. Right now the only way to get a Tilt SIM-unlocked is to get an unlock code from AT&T, or to purchase an unlock code from someone else (who is probably just abusing an "insider" within AT&T to feed them unlock codes.). Flashing an alternative radio ROM can remove a SIM lock, but from a few posts I have read, it is going to be much more difficult/take much longer for our enterprising hackers to figure out how to flash an unsigned radio ROM and have it actually boot, apparently the radio bootloader now does an integrity/signing check against the ROM and will only boot signed carrier ROMs.
Well then I'm still going to call ATT tomorrow for the sim Unlock (heading to japan in a month) but, from what your saying does that mean i can go ahead and flash my phone using HardSPL to HTC stock? or do i need to have sim unlock first regardless what i do?
I understand it's encrypted. But what happens if you dump the radio rom from a tytnii and flash it onto a 8925?
ziddey said:
I understand it's encrypted. But what happens if you dump the radio rom from a tytnii and flash it onto a 8925?
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Don't think it'll work. I think that the ROM has to be signed until the bootloader gets cracked. Not sure. If it worked, we would've heard about it and it would be in all the FAQs.
I wonder how it works though. Definitely am not knowledgeable enough about this yet, but upgrades have come out in the past for older phones. It wouldn't change the lock state though. Why is that? If there's a way to corrupt it and then flash back the original? Are there any signed radio roms out?
What exactly happens when you flash an unsigned one? Brick or just no radio?
Philz said:
Well then I'm still going to call ATT tomorrow for the sim Unlock (heading to japan in a month) but, from what your saying does that mean i can go ahead and flash my phone using HardSPL to HTC stock? or do i need to have sim unlock first regardless what i do?
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Can you let me know how it goes with the call to AT&T? I'm going to HK in December and will call AT&T soon. I want to wait a little before calling since I just got the phone last week.
No worries. Tell them just that. You'll be off the phone within 5 minutes. No hassle at all compared to when I called to get my nokia 6682 unlocked a year ago. Just make sure you call international support
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Hello,
I am very new to this so please forgive me. I did some searches but was unable to find anything complete. So is there any complete tutorial on how i can CID unclock and flash an AT&T Tilt with Dutty_s_TouchFlo_Final_Rom
Thank you
I'm minding about buying a cingular 2125 on eBay, but the phone I choose is locked to Cingular (ATT), and If I but it, I'll get just the phone without SIM card...
May I be able to SIM unlock this phone without the need of a Cingular SIM card?, I've read many post stating that you may need the Cingular SIM Card at least once to get it unlocked, is that right? or is there an alternate way to get it unlocked not involving using that SIM card.
Thanks for your replies.
Drakh said:
I'm minding about buying a cingular 2125 on eBay, but the phone I choose is locked to Cingular (ATT), and If I but it, I'll get just the phone without SIM card...
May I be able to SIM unlock this phone without the need of a Cingular SIM card?, I've read many post stating that you may need the Cingular SIM Card at least once to get it unlocked, is that right? or is there an alternate way to get it unlocked not involving using that SIM card.
Thanks for your replies.
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I believe if u can get it into flight mode you should be fine.
i belive you dont need a sim to unlock your phone,i have one and as i recall i dint use a sim card wile unlocking it,how did i unlock it you might be asking? well i flash it with one of the wm6 roms almost 99% of them are network unlock,so mate i would just recommend buy your phone and flash it to wm6.1 standard or if you wanna try something new and difrent flash it with wm6.1 pro, anyways gl mate ^^
Just follow the Step-By-Step guide by Karhoe which is a sticky at the top of this list. I wouldn't try flashing until after you are unlocked and are SuperSID mode. I've unlocked 2 AT&Ts for use with T-Mobile with no problems.
okay so I have searched and searched and all tutorials all point to http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/ for unlocking but the thing is I got my code from htccode.com now I dont know how to enter this code to unlock my device. from my understanding is this not possible? I used my tmobile sim switched to gsm but never get a prompt to enter lock code.
is using rhodiumw the only way yo be able to unlock the Sprint version? I hope I didnt waste my money purchasing a code I cant even use I tried searching online but nothing! im lost and was hoping to unlock my device but now its looking less and less likely.
Any help would be appreciated and hoping someone else has used htccode.com to unlock their TP2 from sprint
If you want to unlock the SPL to flash custom ROMs, you need this:
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/hard-spl.php
If you want to unlock your phone to use a different carrier SIM card use this:
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
If you use the websites I linked you should not have to purchase a 3rd party code (although the SIM unlock does cost a 'donation').
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If you want to unlock the SPL to flash custom ROMs, you need this:
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/hard-spl.php
If you want to unlock your phone to use a different carrier SIM card use this:
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
If you use the websites I linked you should not have to purchase a 3rd party code (although the SIM unlock does cost a 'donation').
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Not what I was asking but what I do understand is that rhodiumw is the only easy way to unlock the phone that doesnt require a code
scuzzy19 said:
Not what I was asking but what I do understand is that rhodiumw is the only easy way to unlock the phone that doesnt require a code
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I've been reading around it seems you need to flash a patched radio as well.
As for a work-around, the only way to do with Sprint is flash a patched radio. However to my understanding in order to flash a GSM radio (even when it's part of a combo radio such as in our case,) the phone must be "security & CID unlocked". I was confused about this until I realized that it is NOT the same thing as HardSPL unlocked. I believe there is more in the Upgrades section regarding the differences between HardSPL and CID/Security unlock.
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Taken from here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1353809&postcount=18
burtonsnow8 said:
I've been reading around it seems you need to flash a patched radio as well.
Taken from here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1353809&postcount=18
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So once again buying my sim unlock code was a waste of money and SHOULD have went with rhodiumw method instead. Oh well live and learn I guess. now to convince the wife to let me spend another 20$ lol
So I got a Desire S a few weeks ago, but didn't have time to play with it yet. Now I do. It is from T-Mobile Austria, and the first thing I did is generate a goldcard to flash the unbranded WWE ROM. (The first file in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506 ).
It still won't let me use any other SIM Cards, after asking for the PIN, it tells me that, "Network locked" and asks for a PIN.
So short question: Is it possible to remove this lock? Could it be, that i have done something wrong with the goldcard (although i doubt that, since it would let me flash the generic rom)?
Thanks in advance!
No, flashing a Rom doesn't unlock the sim. This has to be done through sim level via an xtc clip, it opens up all the security including the infamous s-on to s-off allowing root access.
So for sim unlock go to a unlocker phone shop.
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I did not need to go to a shop, I used "gsmliberty.net" (no I am NOT affiliated to this site). Was relatively cheap (first 11€, then they wanted another 7€ to look in some "premium databases"), so 18€ altogether, thats the price other sites want too. Took me about 20 minutes, and the code actually worked - altough the site does not list "Desire S" but just "Desire". Support told me, that would not matter, and it did not. So anyone else looking to unlock a "Desire S", I can recommend gsmliberty.net, worked for me, and the site seems legit. If they can't give you an unlock code, they say they will refund the money, I didn't need that, so I can't tell you if this would work.
MasterDL said:
No, flashing a Rom doesn't unlock the sim. This has to be done through sim level via an xtc clip, it opens up all the security including the infamous s-on to s-off allowing root access.
So for sim unlock go to a unlocker phone shop.
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does this mean that if i get a code from a mobile operator (i.e.: Three in the UK), I can use the code to make the phone both sim-unlock and s-off?
I asked Three when I ordered my desire S and they would offer a code to unlock the phone for 15 pounds. I don't know if the code will make the phone s-off as well?
Hmmm... if you can flash roms so why u didn't simply flash it with some unlocked rom? otherwise u need to get s-offf first
Oh yes my bad, I misunderstood. Network operators give unlock codes to unlock to other network.
I was referring to what most people wanted to be able to go s-off route.
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Used Xda premium app on Desire S (s-off and rooted)
yes, I just removed the network lock (so I can use a SIM card that is not from T-Mobile Austria). I already have flashed the "free" RUU, but that obviously does not remove a SIM lock. And since the rooting/S-offing is in early stages I did not want to try that yet
So gsmliberty (and the code you could get from your provider) just remove the network lock, that has nothing to do with S-offing the phone!
Hi Guys
Sorry for asking the same old question again..
I just got my AT&t HTC One x from US shipped over to India by my cousin.
It is locked to AT&t and i am unable to use a local network sim in it
I know i need to root it and turn S-off in order to unlock it.
The phone is on Firmware 1.85? and i have tried the ways mentioned in xda to root it but i guess when i click "Check for updates" it doesn't work.
So my question is
Can i manually by connecting the phone to Computer,update firmware to 2.20 so that i can root it that way?
And is it possible to unlock the BOOTLOADER w/out rooting so that phone gets unlocked to other carriers?
please help me out guys i have tried everything to make it work.. thank you
Unlocking the bootloader/rooting/dancing in circles WILL NOT sim unlock the phone.
You will need to use an online sim unlocking service (usually about 20 bucks) to get the unlock code
Currently, S-Off has not been achieved for this phone. And as already mentioned, bootloader unlock will not get you SIM unlock, and no free hack/mod method currently exists. You either need to use a paid unlock service, or if your cousin is currently an AT&T account holder, he can ask AT&T for the SIM unlock code (he will need the IMEI number of the phone, and maybe other info).
If you want root and unlocked bootloader for other reasons (flashing custom ROMs and other mods) there is no reason to upgrade to 2.20. Root method exists for 1.85. You need to root, SuperCID, then unlock the bootloader. Then you can install a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs.
Upgrading to 2.20 is not recommended. The 2.20 RUU will upgrade your hboot, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery. You will have to flash the boot.img separately every time your flash a ROM. No benefit to updating to 2.20, and actually lose ability to do some things.
If you still want root and bootloader unlock, refer to my index for links to root methods, etc.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
And no, bootloader unlock is not possible without root (temp root in case of 2.20) on the AT&T One X.
area51avenger said:
Unlocking the bootloader/rooting/dancing in circles WILL NOT sim unlock the phone.
You will need to use an online sim unlocking service (usually about 20 bucks) to get the unlock code
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Dancing in circles? ok got your point.
redpoint73 said:
Currently, S-Off has not been achieved for this phone. And as already mentioned, bootloader unlock will not get you SIM unlock, and no free hack/mod method currently exists. You either need to use a paid unlock service, or if your cousin is currently an AT&T account holder, he can ask AT&T for the SIM unlock code (he will need the IMEI number of the phone, and maybe other info).
If you want root and unlocked bootloader for other reasons (flashing custom ROMs and other mods) there is no reason to upgrade to 2.20. Root method exists for 1.85. You need to root, SuperCID, then unlock the bootloader. Then you can install a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs.
Upgrading to 2.20 is not recommended. The 2.20 RUU will upgrade your hboot, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery. You will have to flash the boot.img separately every time your flash a ROM. No benefit to updating to 2.20, and actually lose ability to do some things.
If you still want root and bootloader unlock, refer to my index for links to root methods, etc.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
And no, bootloader unlock is not possible without root (temp root in case of 2.20) on the AT&T One X.
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Thank you for a detailed answer. The reason i though it would unlock the sim was cause i had used other htc phones earlier and when you root them the S-off was achieved so thats why.. anyhow.. thank you for enlightening my dumb bum.
You're not dumb. Just ignorant. Now you have been enlightened. You still have a great phone, you just might have to pay a little bit so you can unlock and use it
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area51avenger said:
You're not dumb. Just ignorant.
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The word "ignorant" has always sounded like a pejorative word to me. But I had to look up the definition, figuring maybe I don't really know the literal meaning of the word. Which turned out to be the case. One of the definitions of ignorant is "Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular" which seems to exactly fit this situation. I guess I gave myself the English lesson for the day!
Every phone is different, and HTC in particular is always changing around their security measures. So the OP is not dumb in any way, but was just missing some particular pieces of information.