For those w/ the docking station... How long does it take to fully charge the dock (just the dock) during the 1st full charge?
I'm charging my TF and dock together, both for the 1st full charge. Green light is on indicating that the TF is now charged, but I have no idea how much longer it'll take for the dock to be fully charged.
It seems there is no way to know when the dock is fully charged? But I would assume that it takes a good 8hrs or so, if it has the same battery as the TF and it's empty. Anybody know how much juice the dock has from the factory when you 1st unbox it?
Just charge it overnight mate
Mr Paul said:
Just charge it overnight mate
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Something like this.
I would state that since the dock has active electronics in it, and was boxed up at xx% state of charge, no one can tell you exactly how long it will take to charge.
Plug it in overnight and let it do its thing.
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I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this. So far I've tried charging the dock for 9+ hours and when I unplug it, the LED still starts flashing as soon as I unplug it, indicating less than 10%~ battery left. I don't think this dock ever got a full charge ever.
Am I doing something wrong, or should I RMA the dock?
Bump, see if anyone knows the answer.
Is the charger getting hot when you plug it into the keyboard dock?
No, it doesn't get any hotter, but I know that it's passing power to the tablet, since the cable goes into the Mobile Dock and the Tablet is docked, the tablet gets a charged to 100%, but Mobile Dock doesn't
Remove the tablet part and just charge the dock on its own.
yep. charge them separately. i believe that if they are connected the tablet fills to 100% before the dock even starts to charge ....
wilbur-force said:
yep. charge them separately. i believe that if they are connected the tablet fills to 100% before the dock even starts to charge ....
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Tried it, over 10+ hours, still the LED starts flashing as soon as I unplug it.
I think I may have to RMA
Reverence12389 said:
Is the charger getting hot when you plug it into the keyboard dock?
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I got same problem too.
but the charger is hot while I charge tablet or dock or both together.
dock is not charge, it always 0%.
sorry for my bad on english
Is the dock FW up to date ?
TBH .. i'd just RMA it, if its under warranty, just get it sent back.
P.S. Download the dual battery widget to see what it displays for the dock power ... but still RMA it.
I just got the dock, I've had the tablet for a while, and I am wondering what the proper way is to go about keeping both charged. I threw the dock on the charger by itself so that it gets a proper charge on its own first (I hope that was the correct thing to do) but I am wondering how I should charge them from here on out. Do I charge both pieces separately? Do I charge them together? Do I plug the charger into the tablet only while docked? Do I plug the charger into the dock only while attached to the tablet? Should I make sure that both pieces are at 100 before docking them the first time?
Sorry for all the questions!
TIA!
Charge them together, I used to charge them overnight but read from peeps that sometimes their dock died doing that so now I charge them both together a couple hours each night before going to bed and it's good the rest of the day. One thing to also keep in mind that I'm gonna start doing is if you leave them docked and sleeping overnight, the dock will lose some charge, like 15% but if you turn the tablet off before then it loses nothing.
by that you mean dock them together and plug the charger into the dock? If that is the case i assume that charger charges both pieces at the same time somehow?
MSmith1 said:
by that you mean dock them together and plug the charger into the dock? If that is the case i assume that charger charges both pieces at the same time somehow?
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yes exactly
from my experience it looks like the charger charges the docking, which in turn charges the tablet... I don't think the charger delivers enough current to charge both at the same time.
darkonex said:
One thing to also keep in mind that I'm gonna start doing is if you leave them docked and sleeping overnight, the dock will lose some charge, like 15% but if you turn the tablet off before then it loses nothing.
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15%? My god are you sleeping about 20 hours every night? For me it's less than one percent an hour, with wifi off...
I turn on airplane put my tablet into my dock and put it on to charge aroudnd 9pm, locked.
I'll take it off around 1am fully charged before i sleep.
When i wake up im sitting aroudnd 97% in the dock.
With the wifi on, i can loose around 40% in the same time.
Just dock the tablet in the evening, plug the charger into the dock, and away you go. There's really no "method" to it.
Gibeon said:
15%? My god are you sleeping about 20 hours every night? For me it's less than one percent an hour, with wifi off...
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No, 15% sounds about right.
You can check out this thread ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1112835&page=12
But basically I ran the same test and my dock also lost about 15% when connected to the tablet in stanbby over 7 hrs. That's ~ 2% per hour of standby.
This is with wifi on though.
If I power off the tablet completely, and connect it to the dock, then the dock only charges the tablet but loses no charge otherwise.
I should probably try standby and wifi off.
Gibeon said:
15%? My god are you sleeping about 20 hours every night? For me it's less than one percent an hour, with wifi off...
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No, 6-7 hours. It's the dock battery draining issue many if not all peeps have, if I turn them off nothing drains. This is with WIfi on, if I turn Wifi off it loses maybe 8-10%.
On another note, yesterday I decided I would start turning the tablet off completely every night, so last night I turned it off when the dock was @ 90% and tablet @ 100%, then I plugged in the power cable tot he dock for about 30 min so it'd be up to 100%. This morning I opened it up and found my tablet was on for some reason, so when you plug the cable in does it power on the tablet for some wierd reason?
Just bought a used TF201 dock, but Im not sure it works properly! How do I see the firmware version? How do l see how much the battery is charged on the dock? The widget with both batteries says 0% in the dock even though it has changed for many hours.
If I press on the Dock Connected sign it just says 0%. The LED lamp of the dock flashes red when its charging, not constant red as the tablet does.
Is the dock defective or why won't it charge? Does it need firmware update? I can use all the other functions of the dock BTW.
It says 'TF201-DOCK-0207'
is that the correct firmware? How do I update the firmware?
That's really weird. It should be solid red when charging the dock. Im assuming you tried a reboot with the dock plugged in. If you plug the charger into the tablet does a charging insignia show up? If not then you probably don't have enough voltage to charge the dock as you would be "trickle charging" the tablet
If its not a voltage issue then you may have a bad charger, bad dock keyboard or bad tablet. I would first test the charger and tablet first. If that proves to work I.E. the tablet charges then I would move the tablet and charge the dock keyboar. If that works then insert the tablet into the dock keyboard and see if the charger will do both. Remember that the tablet will NOT charge the tablet with. It's battery until the tablets. Battery goes below the 70% threshold.
The adapter charges the tablet with or without the dock. The dock however doesn´t recharge whether its with the tablet or not :crying:
PederDingo said:
The adapter charges the tablet with or without the dock. The dock however doesn´t recharge whether its with the tablet or not :crying:
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By what you're describing you aren't actually charging the dock is what people are saying. Usually charge is constant orange/red not flashing. If it is flashing when you are charging something is wrong. Does the dock go to green when on the charger for a period of time like a few hours? If not it's not charging.
neo1738 said:
By what you're describing you aren't actually charging the dock is what people are saying. Usually charge is constant orange/red not flashing. If it is flashing when you are charging something is wrong. Does the dock go to green when on the charger for a period of time like a few hours? If not it's not charging.
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The dock doesn't charge. No matter how long its in the tablets charger it just blinks red. Even after being charged all night it still flashes red. No constant red or green.
PederDingo said:
The dock doesn't charge. No matter how long its in the tablets charger it just blinks red. Even after being charged all night it still flashes red. No constant red or green.
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Sounds like the dock is bad. If it's under warranty send it in but don't tell them you're using it with a TF700 just say it won't charge with or without a tablet inserted
neo1738 said:
Sounds like the dock is bad. If it's under warranty send it in but don't tell them you're using it with a TF700 just say it won't charge with or without a tablet inserted
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Yeah, I think I'll do that. Bought "Used - as new" through Amazon
New tf700 is in transit right now, but I have a question I haven't been able to find an answer to yet...
If you plug the charger into the keyboard dock, you will obviously charge the dock battery. And the same for the infinity itself. But if you plug the charger into the dock and then attach the infinity to the dock, will it charge both the infinity and the dock?
Yes it'll charge both. Idk if its both at the same time or the dock then the tab but it does charge both.
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If your docked, it will charge both the keyboard dock and the tablet the same time.
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Malkaridae said:
If your docked, it will charge both the keyboard dock and the tablet the same time.
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Yep, but @OP keep in mind that it does not DISCHARGE at the same time. When using the Infinity + Dock, it switches the powere source. Noone has written an app to change this (IDK if its too low level either). Makes more sense to deplete the dock when plugged in, and then rely on the tablet later. I understand what they are getting at (their way helps a lot if you use them both together a lot) but they should give the option to choose.
wolfman87 said:
Yep, but @OP keep in mind that it does not DISCHARGE at the same time. When using the Infinity + Dock, it switches the powere source. Noone has written an app to change this (IDK if its too low level either). Makes more sense to deplete the dock when plugged in, and then rely on the tablet later. I understand what they are getting at (their way helps a lot if you use them both together a lot) but they should give the option to choose.
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So, if it's not plugged in, which power gets used first? The keyboard or the tablet?
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So, if it's not plugged in, which power gets used first? The keyboard or the tablet?
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Dock discharges first. Don't know why anyone would want to change that method of charging. Even though I take the dock everywhere with me, I sometimes remove it so I can use the tablet only because it's handier that way.
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So, if it's not plugged in, which power gets used first? The keyboard or the tablet?
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The keyboard actually charges the tablet when it's not plugged in.
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The keyboard actually charges the tablet when it's not plugged in.
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I dont think so. I notice BOTH batteries depleting when I have it on the dock.
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Dock discharges first. Don't know why anyone would want to change that method of charging. Even though I take the dock everywhere with me, I sometimes remove it so I can use the tablet only because it's handier that way.
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If makes sense if you only use your tablet a lot more than your dock. When plugged in you would want to conserve as much battery in the tablet as possible so the "charging method" is to use the dock only when connected. or charge the table, effectively making the dock's battery a refill, not a supplement. If you use them both together, it makes sense to alternate. It just depends on usage patterns.
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I dont think so. I notice BOTH batteries depleting when I have it on the dock.
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I don't know what you are seeing, but when I have the tablet docked and not plugged into the charger the tablet charges and the keyboard dock is depleted. I took a screen shot to show you what I'm seeing. It's plain as day that the keyboard is charging the tablet. Of course now the screen shot won't upload.... I'll try an edit after I post.
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The tablet will drain first to ~70%, then the keyboard dock will charge the tablet back to ~90% this will continue in a loop until the dock is drained and report back as 0% battery left on dock.
The reason your seeing keyboard being drained is because lithium-ion battery overtime will slowly drain ~1% probably couple hours or so.
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Malkaridae said:
The tablet will drain first to ~70%, then the keyboard dock will charge the tablet back to ~90% this will continue in a loop until the dock is drained and report back as 0% battery left on dock.
The reason your seeing keyboard being drained is because lithium-ion battery overtime will slowly drain ~1% probably couple hours or so.
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It's not quite that simple. First, I've had my dock show 0% and blinking orange on the LED, indicating I should charge it. I still used it actively for almost a day, including the USB port from time to time. So either the tablet is then powering the dock's keyboard and ports, or the dock battery has a "reserve" battery capacity for internal use (e.g. only the dock).
It's slightly annoying seeing that 0% and blinking ("OMG, CHARGE MEEE") yet I can still use the dock without any issues.
I'd just like to see some settings/configuration parameters for dock usage. First, I don't want it to complain about 0% battery until it's actually getting low. It could just say it's not charging the tablet anymore, and keep the warning lights for when the dock's actually nearing empty.
Also, while Li-Ion batteries discharge over time because of the internal resistance, we're not talking 1% every couple of hours. You have a defective battery in that case, or a very old one.
The self-discharge of the lithium-ion battery is 5% in the first 24 hours after charge, and then reduces to 1% to 2% per month thereafter. The safety circuit adds about 3%. High cycle count and aging have little effect on the self-discharge of lithium-based batteries. A lead-acid battery self-discharges at only 5% per month or 50% per year. Repeated deep cycling increases self-discharge.
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Source: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/non_correctable_battery_problems
BxMxK said:
Dock discharges first. Don't know why anyone would want to change that method of charging. Even though I take the dock everywhere with me, I sometimes remove it so I can use the tablet only because it's handier that way.
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Tablet discharges to about 70% +/- and then the dock charges the tablet until the dock is completely discharged, then the tablet discahrges again.
thread. just wondering, can I still use it if the dock battery is empty (when it's attached to the tablet)?
eriol33 said:
thread. just wondering, can I still use it if the dock battery is empty (when it's attached to the tablet)?
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Yes, you can.
Yes but bear in mind, if the battery drops to 0%, you might struggle to get it to charge again
noted. thanks for the hints. I always bring charger with me. I wish I could control the charge when using the dock. for example, let the dock charges when the tablet's battery is near 10% or some sort. oh well.
Yea the tablet always takes priority when charging via the dock, the way it is designed is to make sure the tablet always has the most charge under all circumstances - so when using it docked and on battery, the dock will drain first - when docked and charging from the wall, the tablet charges first / fastest
The way I use mine is I charge them both up full and use it docked until the dock battery is low - then I undock and charge the dock on its own while I use the tablet battery - the dock generally always reaches full charge before the tablet battery runs out, then I can dock again and keep using them both on battery again - that way I get the longest possible use from the tablet before having to charge them both back up from the wall
it's also worth mentioning keeping the tablet docked will run both devices down. It's hardware-related, so best to leave them undocked until you run the tablet to 10% or so. Best results I've discovered.