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I hope somone can compare the camera quality of both the modded stock and the 2.2.1 freeX10 app.
I would have done it myself but i reaply not that good, it seems that i have really shaky hands.
Also, if somone can clarify if the FreeX10 camera app and for example MIUI camera app in wolfbreak's CM rom ( which is based on freeX10 as far as i know ) give the same quality ?
Any opinions are welcomed
I was about to post this in the appropriate thread but since your asking I actually ran a few tests myself today....to my surprise the free x10 beta 4 camera app came out noticeably better. Something im gonna ask 28spawn to look into. I thought for sure his mod would be better, but it absolutely wasn't. Gonna run more tests again tomorrow, but I think I already know what one will win.
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I took a look on what you posted there, glad that you did.
For me i was looking on photos taken with both the MIUI and the stock mod but really couldn't decide which are better -.-'
Also, did you notice the shutter speed or thats placebo ?
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mezo9090 said:
I took a look on what you posted there, glad that you did.
For me i was looking on photos taken with both the MIUI and the stock mod but really couldn't decide which are better -.-'
Also, did you notice the shutter speed or thats placebo ?
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What i strongly noticed between the 2 camera apps was the free x10 focused better on the surrounding picture...where in comparission to the stock camera mod which shows signs of trouble focusing.
I can upload pictures for you....the freex10 camera also brings out more natural light when taken under low light....with the stock mod i kept getting a slight pink tinge.
The difference between the pictures is noticeable.
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"Surrounding picture" - do you mean background on the picture or landscape(natute etc)?
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"Surrounding picture" - do you mean background on the picture or landscape(natute etc)?
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What I meant was the entire picture in whole. The free x10 camera app focused better on everything within the entire picture....where as the stock camera mod showed signs of trouble. I did tests in low light (in my house) and tests outside in daylight. Out of about 15 comparisons the stock camera mod came out better twice....but only focused better....those two times the free x10 camera app still displayed better color (more natural).
Now I just made another discovery...i flashed my phone with seus tonight....and I used the default se camera on my phone (.435 firmware) against my wifes x10 using v8 of the stock modded camera (also .435) and the se default came out better 3 of the 4 tests. The one pic where the modded camera focused better the default se camera app still produced better color.
Before .435 firmware came out the mod was clearly better...but now in sticking to the default se camera as this mod isn't producing better results with the .435 firmware.
When I compare all camera apps (se stock .435, .435 modded app, vignette paid, free x10 beta 4) the free x10 beta 4 is the winner hands down of all of them. I was shocked with the images it produces.
@28spawn: if you happen to read this don't take offence please...i still appreciate your work. But I've ran enough tests the last few days to clearly see which camera apps produce the best results.
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intersting...so you are saying .435 mod is worse than stock .435??? Im fan of spawn but now Im going back to stock and make some photos...
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intersting...so you are saying .435 mod is worse than stock .435??? Im fan of spawn but now Im going back to stock and make some photos...
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Im a fan to....but since the .435 firmware I was skeptical with the mod. That's why the last few days I have been going crazy comparing camera apps. I think 28spawn can fix this, but he needs to look closer at what's going on in .435 firmware.
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Here's a comparison I did down in my gamesroom in my basement. Notice the color that comes from the modded camera....its awful. Both cameras were on the exact same settings..ev, white balance, metering, etc etc.
first THX for the pictures, second for the comparison its better to compare pictures in full resolution and with good light conditions...the yellow tint can be removed by software, but im always interested in overal detail and good focus instead of colours that can by adjust in e.g. photoshop
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first THX for the pictures, second for the comparison its better to compare pictures in full resolution and with good light conditions...the yellow tint can be removed by software, but im always interested in overal detail and good focus instead of colours that can by adjust in e.g. photoshop
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I compare pictures in good light and low light....those pictures were obviously low light...but I don't want to have to mess around with a photo editing program all the time just to get a better picture you know? And im sure most people would agree. I do compare at full resolutions...and also I zoom in on certain areas and compare that as well. The photos I posted were just to show the bad color im getting from the modded app....almost a sepia effect lol. Anyways, tomorrow (today) since I haven't been to bed yet lol I will be comparing these two apps (mod vs se stock) in good lighting conditions.
Did you compare any yet?
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OK I have no problem to run all photos throught software even automatic contrast/levels make a good job and its fast and can be done automatically (Xnview) anyways both of us prefer different photos properties as I said for me is sharpness and detail the most important
So the stock camera app + the lines in the build.prop for better HD videos is the best solution for 2.1?
I'll go back to the stock app later, but can't make much tests...
@ Mr Patch:
Btw, are you bluechip on youtube with the white and black X10 and the tutorials?
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@ Mr. Patchy Patch: So 1st pic of the gameroom is unmodded stock 2.1 and 2nd is modded v8? Mind posting a comparison shot with the Free x10 beta 4 cam you said was best?
Also, are you using multi-auto focus or infinity focus with the 2.1 cam(s)? If not, you'll notice much better background detail using one of those over single auto focus.
*Edit- I am still convinced that video and focus have improved in the modded camcorder regardless of the build.prop additions. I take more vids than pics, so sticking w/ v8 for now...
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@ Mr. Patchy Patch: So 1st pic of the gameroom is unmodded stock 2.1 and 2nd is modded v8? Mind posting a comparison shot with the Free x10 beta 4 cam you said was best?
Also, are you using multi-auto focus or infinity focus with the 2.1 cam(s)? If not, you'll notice much better background detail using one of those over single auto focus.
*Edit- I am still convinced that video and focus have improved in the modded camcorder regardless of the build.prop additions. I take more vids than pics, so sticking w/ v8 for now...
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v8 modded apk is much much better, imho. Look at my post here to see the comparison. I took those photos with touch capture mode, because that is the mode I use the most. Most of the times, I do not care about the background, I just want to focus on one item. Stock camera app just can't focus! But with v8 mod, it looks really good.
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So the stock camera app + the lines in the build.prop for better HD videos is the best solution for 2.1?
I'll go back to the stock app later, but can't make much tests...
@ Mr Patch:
Btw, are you bluechip on youtube with the white and black X10 and the tutorials?
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No im not bluechip...my user name on youtube is the same as here.
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@ Mr. Patchy Patch: So 1st pic of the gameroom is unmodded stock 2.1 and 2nd is modded v8? Mind posting a comparison shot with the Free x10 beta 4 cam you said was best?
Also, are you using multi-auto focus or infinity focus with the 2.1 cam(s)? If not, you'll notice much better background detail using one of those over single auto focus.
*Edit- I am still convinced that video and focus have improved in the modded camcorder regardless of the build.prop additions. I take more vids than pics, so sticking w/ v8 for now...
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I was just using single auto focus for both. Ill give multi auto focus a try.
Im gonna take some more tests in a bit with a nice bright sky outside.
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Here's a couple more comparisons between V8 mod and stock .435.
There is no way you that the mod is taking better pictures.
by the way for both of these I used multi auto focus on both phones like someone suggested to me.
Im gonna go back to V7 just for the hell of it...I know its supposed to be the same, but Im gonna check it out anyways and see if there is any difference.
I would also be delighted to see more results, i have not yet tried 28Spawn Mod, but loved the idea of it - so i have d/l it and am just trying to find time (still trying to find a preferred ROM!!)
I must say - overall i was totally disappointed with x10's camera - when i decided to take the x10i I had no experience with any smartphones, nor had i read any forums (noobisms) but i chose x10i over htcHD - imagin my dissapointment when i found out the camera had a light - instead of a flash - and seemed to take worse pictures that my wife's htc desire (5.1 camera) see here
Been playing around with the camera since yesterday and I have to say I'm mildly disappointed. My Samsung Vibrant shot excellent photos for a cell phone camera (my daily driver is a Canon 5DMKII).
Looking at the specs and the size of the sensor this should be a dead ringer for top camera, but the dynamic range seems to be worse than the Vibrant and compression more heavy.
Are there good camera app alternatives that can use the Optimus/G2x hardware?
There is...
I've been using Vignette with my G2, and now that I have a G2X, this app comes in handy even more... besides taking really good quality shots... you can set the volume button as your shutter button. Voila: you got a physical camera button on your G2X.
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Been playing around with the camera since yesterday and I have to say I'm mildly disappointed. My Samsung Vibrant shot excellent photos for a cell phone camera (my daily driver is a Canon 5DMKII).
Looking at the specs and the size of the sensor this should be a dead ringer for top camera, but the dynamic range seems to be worse than the Vibrant and compression more heavy.
Are there good camera app alternatives that can use the Optimus/G2x hardware?
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This is the MIUI Camera app. It's a full screen camera app. Works better than default app. Download it and change the extension to .apk and install it via package installer or adb.
Camera 360 is a wonderful camera app
Makes ur camera work amazing wonders
Worth buying
But there are ways
I purchased mine abdbyave no regrets
very hi def and even made my mt4g camera look amazing
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Try lgCamera from the market, there's a free version too. It's made for LG phones, so hopefully it will work well.
It adds support for autofocus in video mode! I hope that feature works for the G2x
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This is the MIUI Camera app. It's a full screen camera app. Works better than default app. Download it and change the extension to .apk and install it via package installer or adb.
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This is a great app. Thank you so much for the post. I recommend this for all G2x users!
i personally would not use MIUI as HD 720P seems not to work
BUT on the plus side it is made by XDA-Developers
they always make good stuff and are the leaders in innovations for the smart-phone market
(shameless plug maybe I'll get a cookie for it )
i don't see how this app would do anything to improve image quality on the G2X
as the app was generally made to replace the clunky and overblown GUI software that came with the Galaxy S / Vibrant,
so how will that improve the image quality on the G2X
as DataJunkie wants, he did not ask for a better GUI but better quality pictures
maybe i miss-understand
anyway the app can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996867
and a review of the app here
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/install-miui-custom-camera-app-on-samsung-galaxy-s-vibrant/
Just my 2 cents,
i realize i did not try or test this app on the G2X,
so my 2 cents maybe worthless
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I use camera 360 ultimate, i love that app, is awesome, it has hdr mode and a few other modes, you should try it.
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Strange I used to switch between camera 360 and vignette on my MT4G but now when I try those apps on this phone it seems really anyone else notice this?
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The miui app just force closes for me
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These are all really good suggestions, thanks guys.
I think I'm going to do a test with 3 different camera apps and lock down the phone on a tripod to compare. I'm interested in knowing how much the camera is held back by software and how much it can be improved upon.
Now all I want is a cameraphone that can shoot RAW.
Where can I get camera 360? I can't find it in the market?
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I know, it's weird, you have to type it as "camera360" or else it won't show up.
Okay i see it now, thanks
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DataJunkie said:
Been playing around with the camera since yesterday and I have to say I'm mildly disappointed. My Samsung Vibrant shot excellent photos for a cell phone camera (my daily driver is a Canon 5DMKII).
Looking at the specs and the size of the sensor this should be a dead ringer for top camera, but the dynamic range seems to be worse than the Vibrant and compression more heavy.
Are there good camera app alternatives that can use the Optimus/G2x hardware?
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I was disappointed with the Camera app on my MT4G and went with Camera 360 due to extensive compression (at leat 2 to 1) on stock app.
I think this one is much better, and it makes large files per picture which indicates it does not compress that much. Have you checked out all the settings?
The flash goes off too soon with Camera 360, just tried it out.
DataJunkie said:
These are all really good suggestions, thanks guys.
I think I'm going to do a test with 3 different camera apps and lock down the phone on a tripod to compare. I'm interested in knowing how much the camera is held back by software and how much it can be improved upon.
Now all I want is a cameraphone that can shoot RAW.
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did you ever find out the result?
I like Camera Zoom FX the best then Vignette. Both of these have hardware hotkeys. Camera Zoom FX has stable shot mode that Vignette doesn't have. Camera360 Ultimate is ok for me. Stock camera app seems to have brightest flash and very noticeable.
Does anybody have a .apk of the MIUI app? I'm having a hard time with the .zip :/
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Does anybody have a .apk of the MIUI app? I'm having a hard time with the .zip :/
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18421884/Android Apps/MiuiCamera.apk
it doesnt even take 720p anymore! tested the youtube high and regular high on gb camera they both take crappy 23fps 1080p sucks.... i feel screwed
I feel it is dark as well. Unless the area is well lit. Photos are coming up DARK!!
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I feel it is dark as well. Unless the area is well lit. Photos are coming up DARK!!
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I definitely agree. Idk why they would switch the camera.
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yea the gb camera really sucks and I also noticed its darker. The focusing isnt as good and I feel that the quality of the pics is decreased. I used to love taking pictures with the factory lg camera. Is there a way to get the lg camera back, even if it means going back to 2.2? im guessing root and flash one of the 2.2 roms?
OTOH, I think the new camera does better with flash photos. With the original stock camera, things close to the camera were all overexposed and blown out. A couple of test photos in a dark room with the flash really came out looking very nice, much better than the old camera.
Does the GB camera take Panoramic pics and art pics?
I'm confused about the discussion of the cameras with gb mean we lost our specs with our original camera functions with froyo? If so what did we lose
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Does the GB camera take Panoramic pics and art pics?
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Nope! One of the perks with the LG camera that's sorely missed.
Common Sense is learned..........
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HTC Sensation
Yea and it takes forever to take a phota even longer then LG camera app, man I could go take a **** and come back for the pic and still have to wait and that's with the timer off! And yes the fps is lower the LG camera in 2.2. And it also had more options why the hell would they do that, so so stupid for real, I bet it was to much of a pain for them to incorporate into gb
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Yea and it takes forever to take a phota even longer then LG camera app, man I could go take a **** and come back for the pic and still have to wait and that's with the timer off! And yes the fps is lower the LG camera in 2.2. And it also had more options why the hell would they do that, so so stupid for real, I bet it was to much of a pain for them to incorporate into gb
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They just aren't willing to do the work. This "update" was likely started a month ago, its also likely there won't be another. Just a feeling, LG seems clueless.
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There is a thread in the dev section dedicated to porting the Cam.over. i am working on doing this for you along with 2 others.
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Is there an advanced camera app that works on the G2X? I haven't rooted my phone yet but I'd do it if a rom has a better camera app or something. I'm looking to being able to control my shutter speed, ISO, white balance, and possibly aperture (Although I'm not sure if camera phones even have adjustable aperture).
Camera360 has a good amount of options, you should check that out.
When They took the lg camera away I tried every camera app in the market and none of them were any good I wasted alot of money buying the pro versions and they all sucked most were not even as good as the stock vanilla android camera that we go with the GB update and certainly not as good as the froyo LG camera app. Sorry to sound negative. On a good note you can now get the LG froyo camera on GB it has been done I have it and you dont even need to be rooted
Please explain how you got the LG Cam without being rooted...
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When They took the lg camera away I tried every camera app in the market and none of them were any good I wasted alot of money buying the pro versions and they all sucked most were not even as good as the stock vanilla android camera that we go with the GB update and certainly not as good as the froyo LG camera app. Sorry to sound negative. On a good note you can now get the LG froyo camera on GB it has been done I have it and you dont even need to be rooted
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You know you get a 15 min window to get a refund on apps bought in the market, right?..
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I've recently purchased Camera Zoom FX (after using Camera 360 for a while). It works with the front-facing camera and has some good basic requirements. It also has tons of extras I will probably never use, but then I just want to take a fast shot that is clear and crisp.
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Please explain how you got the LG Cam without being rooted...
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Hahahahaha +1
Thanks for all the help guys. Camera360 doesn't have any of the exposure settings I wanted except for white balance but I'll root and flash a rom with the LG Cam and see how that goes.
After I flashed weapon onto my phone. There have been 2 problems with my front facing camera, one that it comes out rotated 90 degrees for photo capture and when I try to use it for video it comes out completely messed up with 4 different screens, 1 with a green area, a blurred image of the camera and 2 other messed up views of the camera. Is there any fix for this? Thanks.
That happened to me while trying Skype. As for the bad screen I changed the Res, for the upside down I just rotated my phone. The finally I. Just said screw the stock cam and installed LG cam 3.0 which all works great except no Skype video
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naeem03 said:
After I flashed weapon onto my phone. There have been 2 problems with my front facing camera, one that it comes out rotated 90 degrees for photo capture and when I try to use it for video it comes out completely messed up with 4 different screens, 1 with a green area, a blurred image of the camera and 2 other messed up views of the camera. Is there any fix for this? Thanks.
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That's a known issue with LG Cam App... Try installing the stock Gingerbread Camera.
naeem03 said:
After I flashed weapon onto my phone. There have been 2 problems with my front facing camera, one that it comes out rotated 90 degrees for photo capture and when I try to use it for video it comes out completely messed up with 4 different screens, 1 with a green area, a blurred image of the camera and 2 other messed up views of the camera. Is there any fix for this? Thanks.
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You are using stock cam right? And skype?
I also have that issue with skype.
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What's the difference between stock GB cam and LG Cam 3.0? Does it look different?
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What's the difference between stock GB cam and LG Cam 3.0? Does it look different?
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Yes.
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What's the difference between stock GB cam and LG Cam 3.0? Does it look different?
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It looks different, has a couple features stock does not, and most importantly can record video in 1080p, something no other camera app on the G2X is capable of.
Here's a thread discussing the LG camera and what it can do if you're really curious. I personally don't find it necessary; the MIUI camera can do almost everything LG can do and Camera Advance can do everything (and more!) other than 1080p video, which I don't need.
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It looks different, has a couple features stock does not, and most importantly can record video in 1080p, something no other camera app on the G2X is capable of.
Here's a thread discussing the LG camera and what it can do if you're really curious. I personally don't find it necessary; the MIUI camera can do almost everything LG can do and Camera Advance can do everything (and more!) other than 1080p video, which I don't need.
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Thank you, reading through that thread
Myyy bad for the late response yea i am using the stoxk
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LG CAM 3.0
Where can I find the .apk? I didn't see it on Market.
Nervermind,sorry. I found it. Also, it is a good app so far. I like knowing at what MP my pictures are as well as what size the video is recording at. Much btter than the standard GB cam app.
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Only bad thing so far is that it doesnt work with Skype. I keep the stock cam zip file to flash via CWM when i need to make a skype video call.
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