do you guys think it will become possible ? im considering this marvelous phone, but it lacking androids greatest feature to mod it the way you want to kinda sucks. kinda = a lot.
btw htc bloatware = crap all the way, and sense aint so pretty either
lol go buy an iphone and suffer then.......Android is the best and is u put effort in u can find some1 close to you to s-off for a small fee like a 10ner
but yh shudnt be far off now they should have a exploit in a week or two
My Desire S arrived today. Been playing with it for a couple of hours now. Doesn't actually come with that much bloat. Plus with double the internal storage and extra RAM, even at stock it's much smoother and snappier than my old rooted and heavily optimised Desire. Very pleased with it. Wont be long until the unrEVOked team crack it, but I don't find myself missing root privileges too badly.
A bit scared by HTC Hub though. Was running the Desire S ported ROM on my Desire to see if I liked it. When I turned my new phone on today, it somehow knew my wireless router key and jumped straight on my network, then proceeded to download and install all the apps I had on the ported ROM!
Not sure I like the idea of HTC being able to get my wireless network key off my phone.
Edit: Need to change my sig!
wnp_79 said:
A bit scared by HTC Hub though. Was running the Desire S ported ROM on my Desire to see if I liked it. When I turned my new phone on today, it somehow knew my wireless router key and jumped straight on my network, then proceeded to download and install all the apps I had on the ported ROM!
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it's google, not htc
disable the automatical backup in options -> privacy.. or however its called in english
there is a option to automatically backup & restore your apps, favorites, wlan passwords etc.
i got still a desire hd, getting a desire s soon but most of the ported desire s, incredible s and pyramid roms got auto backup enabled by default so i everytime get apps installed which is kinda annoying
Blezz said:
it's google, not htc
disable the automatical backup in options -> privacy.. or however its called in english
there is a option to automatically backup & restore your apps, favorites, wlan passwords etc.
i got still a desire hd, getting a desire s soon but most of the ported desire s, incredible s and pyramid roms got auto backup enabled by default so i everytime get apps installed which is kinda annoying
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Nice. Now turned off. Thanks for that.
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It's not really bloated but i do want to remove things like Twitter, Peep, Plurk & even Facebook since i don't use it. I actually use the Friend Stream & other HTC widgets since i'm just an Android HTC virgin.
I have said YES to the poll but I don't believe that this will happen within weeks.
I believe that with forthcoming release of the HTC sensation (dual core) which I assume will be locked down in the same way, more developers will start working on cracking the problem and therefore an answer might be found.
But I don't believe that it will happen for a months yet (happy to be proved wrong)....which is why I'm finding a XTC clip to use.
Yeah probably right. Two of my friends are about to get the Desire S. When they have, I'll try seeing if they want to go £33 in each to buy an xtc clip.
Then I'll pimp it out at £10 per S-off until it's paid for itself.
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HOPE..... DESIRE S ROOT WORKING with GINGERBREAK
Ok so I think this could actually be my first post(and hopefully a helpfull one!)
I was just about to give up with Gingerbreak and the hope of having Root access on my Desire S but the last time i ran it it froze on the "something appears to have gone wrong message"
so i left it a while realised that i had accidently left my tether over usb on and that my internet was still working allthou the phone was completly froze so after about 5 mins unpluged the usb waiting a minute or so and as i was just about to unplug the battery cover I heard the phone reset and I was amazed to find That I now have SuperUser listed in my programs!!
also dont know if it makes any differance but
fast boot off
debug usb mode on
Its a voda uk rom but and o2 sim
ps I dont want to reset my phone now incase i lose root after reboot lol
hope this is helpfull to someone every other attempt i made failed.
EDIT: ok so curiosity got the best of me restarted my phone and superuser and root access gone so only temp after all
sebuk said:
Ok so I think this could actually be my first post(and hopefully a helpfull one!)
I was just about to give up with Gingerbreak and the hope of having Root access on my Desire S but the last time i ran it it froze on the "something appears to have gone wrong message"
so i left it a while realised that i had accidently left my tether over usb on and that my internet was still working allthou the phone was completly froze so after about 5 mins unpluged the usb waiting a minute or so and as i was just about to unplug the battery cover I heard the phone reset and I was amazed to find That I now have SuperUser listed in my programs!!
also dont know if it makes any differance but
fast boot off
debug usb mode on
Its a voda uk rom but and o2 sim
ps I dont want to reset my phone now incase i lose root after reboot lol
hope this is helpfull to someone every other attempt i made failed.
EDIT: ok so curiosity got the best of me restarted my phone and superuser and root access gone so only temp after all
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if it's true, then its possible to take superuser without xtc clip CMIIW
altough in your case it's just a random accident
unrevoked manual method
would this method work ?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/adb_in_recovery
thanks
I've tried sebuk's method but it seems to me that I'm unlucky . Still waiting for a soft method to S-off
Yanno the people who have used the clip can't they extract their hboot???
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faddys123 said:
Yanno the people who have used the clip can't they extract their hboot???
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the lock is stored in the radio.. something about nvram.. i donno
but i do know even if we had it, there is NO way yet to flash it on s-on devices...
Can the hboot from the unlocked htc sensation dev phone be used for our desire s?
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Looks like a workaround is almost out - well, one for the incredible S which is very similar to the desire S.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115210
Keep your eyes open people, I think we've got a winner! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK_V7xo3qug
Hope it gets released soon
... ok nothing real new, but check back here regulary:
http://alpharev.nl/x/
;-)
Hope thy will support our Desire S asap.
*crossfingers*
Ralf
http://alpharev.nl/x/beta/
gettin closer.
but this is NOT working for Desire S =(
It is possible, AlphrevX can do it check my S-OFF by AlpharevX Desire S here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136276
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Hi
This is my first post and I'm admittedly new to this so forgive me if I come across as a bit of a n00b.
I've been considering whether to root my HTC Desire for a while now. One of the main reasons is to bypass HTC Sense as its stopping me from doing a number of things. One being installing a Wii Classic Wireless game pad I want to use on the PSX4 Droid emulator. So hopefully this will fix this problem. Another issue I'm hoping it fixes is the ability to blue tooth mp3 files to other phones, which HTC has blocked. Does anyone know if this is possible with root?
I'm going to use the Unrevoked method as I've found a step by step guide and also a video, which seems pretty straight forward. Unless anyone else knows of a better method?
Lastly if I was to root my phone is it possible to unroot it?
Thanks
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Lastly if I was to root my phone is it possible to unroot it?
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Yes, as if it has never been rooted.
I rooted my phone and never looked back!
I think I'd only ever unroot it if it needed to go in for repairs or I sold it.
Zammo76 said:
Hi
This is my first post and I'm admittedly new to this so forgive me if I come across as a bit of a n00b.
I've been considering whether to root my HTC Desire for a while now. One of the main reasons is to bypass HTC Sense as its stopping me from doing a number of things. One being installing a Wii Classic Wireless game pad I want to use on the PSX4 Droid emulator. So hopefully this will fix this problem. Another issue I'm hoping it fixes is the ability to blue tooth mp3 files to other phones, which HTC has blocked. Does anyone know if this is possible with root?
I'm going to use the Unrevoked method as I've found a step by step guide and also a video, which seems pretty straight forward. Unless anyone else knows of a better method?
Lastly if I was to root my phone is it possible to unroot it?
Thanks
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To be jailed or to be free?
thank you so much
how can we unroot then? I'm also thinking of rooting my Samsung Galaxy Ace but afraid to not avail its warranty if I root it.
Yes you can root and unroot, but Rotting the phone makes the phone open to all the cool things you will want to flash on the phone. THAT is why we got Android phones
Do it. The Epic is my first Android phone. I'm an experienced NOC Analyst, been using and working in Linux and Unix for years as part of my day to day. I cannot BELIEVE how fun these phones are...if you're a techy gearhead type and you just can't leave anything alone, jump in with both feet. I promise you'll learn it fast and you'll never again wonder why people do it. Just follow the instructions and be patient, the rewards will be great.
ROOT IT MAKES FOR A WAY BETTER PHONE MY MOM EVEN HAS A ROOTED PHONE!
I was a little hesitant to root at first because I had heard horror stories about bricked phones, etc, and was under the initial impression that it was only something super-techy people could do. However, I looked up the instructions and was like "oh, okay, I can do that" and really, as long as you can follow directions, you will be fine. And even if you do mess something up, usually you aren't the first person who has done that particular thing and you can still find help on these forums.
You can definitely unroot it and it will be as if you never rooted it at all. I've rooted and then unrooted an Incredible and an X (after I nearly bricked the X) and you would never know the difference from stock. The Incredible I brought it for repair with Verizon and got a new phone with no question from the the tech.
Thanks Lainzee for the informative reply, that's helping make up my mind. Are you able to now blue tooth MP3 files?
Also will I still be able to use widgets if I root my phone? I say this because I used a custom launcher and it took away some of my widgets and also app shortcuts.
Do you mean the sense widgets?
Wether you are able to use some widgets depends on the rom you use or if you use an anlternative launcher. When you use a rom with sense in it, you are able to use the htc widgets. If you use a rom without sense or an alternative launcher,you can't use the sense widgets. I rooted my desire the minute i had it. It opens so much possibillities and options you don't have when not rooted.
after reading different threads on how to root the phone I was confused but it is really quite easy and the phone rungs better now and seems to have a much better battery because all the rubbish is not there slowing things down
Go For it
I do like some of the widgets, for instance I find the calender really useful. I work shifts and its easy for me to look at it and work out when I'm next in work. I'd be gutted if I lost this function, plus some of the other more useful widgets.
I'm definitely going to run a ROM without HTC Sense, so will I be able to run any widgets?
I currently have the following:
HTC Clock/ weather
HTC Calender,
HTC Music,
HTC News,
HTC People,
Android Google Search,
Android YouTube,
Android Facebook,
Android Power Control,
Android Transdroid,
Android Tweetcaster,
Am I right in thinking I'd loose the ability to run any HTC widgets, but the others would be fine?
If you came to XDA, you definetly need a rooted phone! I even rooted my gf's HTC Desire Z (not that she knows I did it, or what it does or means..) !
I rooted a htc dersire and is the best!!!I recommended.
Lol to rooting of your girl friends phone. She's probably like "why have I got a ninja icon on the apps menu?".
If I do root my Desire can I have the original HTC Sense UI and a Vanilla 2.2 ROM on my phone. Then just switch between the two as and when I want too?
Zammo76 said:
Thanks Lainzee for the informative reply, that's helping make up my mind. Are you able to now blue tooth MP3 files?
Also will I still be able to use widgets if I root my phone? I say this because I used a custom launcher and it took away some of my widgets and also app shortcuts.
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Rooting will not remove anything from your device. It just gives you the possibility to remove anything.
Moudii said:
If you came to XDA, you definetly need a rooted phone! I even rooted my gf's HTC Desire Z (not that she knows I did it, or what it does or means..) !
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Is that like cheating on your GF "rooting her phone" LOL.
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I think my phone is impossible to root. I can never use the format tool that came with the simpleGoldCard I have done it with HP format I can never get CID so I have come to a conclusion my phone is impossible to root
DVA4890 said:
I think my phone is impossible to root. I can never use the format tool that came with the simpleGoldCard I have done it with HP format I can never get CID so I have come to a conclusion my phone is impossible to root
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What? Try punctuation and maybe someone can actually help you.
Yeah I'm having a hard time as well. I had already rooted an inspire before but I can't do my own
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I just have no idead what i am missing. i have watched buddys 1 click video and think i am doing it like he says but nope does not work. I might try the other way but it seems a little more in depth but we will see.
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What? Try punctuation and maybe someone can actually help you.
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Don't be a douche! Like this?
I used a new two gig Sandisk card and formatted it in my phone, then used the Gold Card Maker, and then used the Ace hack kit picking up on number two in the menu. This downgraded the rom and then you just forward thru setup and enable debugging again and run number three in the menu. This gives you root and s-off. Then you repeat enable debugging and go to the options menu and flash the stock radio. Once it reboots, you are ready to place your renamed rom on the root of the sd card and restart in bootloader and flash away. Don't forget to disconnect the usb cable after moving the rom to the sd card. After reboot you are home free. If you flash a custom rom, you may need to flash a new radio. The key is having a good gold card, turning off antivirus, and remembering to put the phone on charge only and enabling debugging before each step.
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Not to be a jerk but if you can't even figure out how to root the phone using one of the easiest tools around then maybe its best you just leave it alone all together.
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I've rooted my father in laws inspire but now I cant root mine, Im not a total noob with Android but its not working for some reason I guess ill try to find another sd to try it with
malicenfz said:
I've rooted my father in laws inspire but now I cant root mine, Im not a total noob with Android but its not working for some reason I guess ill try to find another sd to try it with
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You Did make a new goldcard for yours, right?
Yes, I made one for mine. Thanks for all the help guys it wasnt me being a noob it was the sd card not working, i tried a different one and it worked, thanks for all the help again guys.
Right on, sometimes the obvious questions just don't get asked.
Use hack kit tool v11 and read the effenmanual. You will root your phone.
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lol nvm it still didn't work now when its checking PD98IMG.zip it almost finishes then it stops and it says "Model ID incorrect!" "Update Fail!!" "Press <POWER> to reboot"
help?
malicenfz said:
lol nvm it still didn't work now when its checking PD98IMG.zip it almost finishes then it stops and it says "Model ID incorrect!" "Update Fail!!" "Press <POWER> to reboot"
help?
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Reading stuff like this makes me ever more genuinely glad I don't care to root my Inspire. In my case I know that if it can mess up it will mess up. But the whole process seems so convoluted and messy. Using a "Goldcard" seems like a burden to me...like you have to carry around addition weight with you wherever you go just to have a rooted phone. It all seems so super-duper messy. That's the biggest turn-off for me...like I would be trying to make something work unnaturally...like this is something that isn't designed for the device...stuff like that. By the way, I know someone will misunderstand what I meant by "weight" so I will preempt them by saying I know there is no "weight"...lol
Im just trying to use the wifi hotspot without getting charged on my already unlimited data plan, do i even need to root to do that? besides i just wanna have it rooted but it keeps failing. ive done it like 4 times.
malicenfz said:
Im just trying to use the wifi hotspot without getting charged on my already unlimited data plan, do i even need to root to do that? besides i just wanna have it rooted but it keeps failing. ive done it like 4 times.
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From what I've read in the past, AT&T detects tethering on rooted phones and will charge the specific account for the cost of the feature.
MartyLK said:
Reading stuff like this makes me ever more genuinely glad I don't care to root my Inspire. In my case I know that if it can mess up it will mess up. But the whole process seems so convoluted and messy. Using a "Goldcard" seems like a burden to me...like you have to carry around addition weight with you wherever you go just to have a rooted phone. It all seems so super-duper messy. That's the biggest turn-off for me...like I would be trying to make something work unnaturally...like this is something that isn't designed for the device...stuff like that. By the way, I know someone will misunderstand what I meant by "weight" so I will preempt them by saying I know there is no "weight"...lol
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BTW the goldcard is not needed once you're done rooting. I haven't had a goldcard in my phone for months - it's the oiriginal 8GB that I keep it in my desk drawer should I ever need it again. Using a regular 32GB card now.
Rooting's not that hard but there is a small hurdle at first, but the rewards make it worthwhile. Some people prefer stock, some people like to tweak until the cows come home.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong for it to say model ID incorrect?
malicenfz said:
Im just trying to use the wifi hotspot without getting charged on my already unlimited data plan, do i even need to root to do that? besides i just wanna have it rooted but it keeps failing. ive done it like 4 times.
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You can set up an apn that allows hotspot without a tethering plan.
Sent from the computer I carry in my pocket.
Tethering is usually free on rooted phones.
I'm pretty sure that AT&T doesn't do deep packet inspection on their traffic yet, so you should be able to easily get away with tethering as long as you don't have significantly higher data usage than usual.
Hello. Since this is my 1st post as "M4TGS" few words about me: I'm new MT4GS owner and new Android user, coming from WinMo world (been using PocketPCs since WinMo 2003 SE) so if something sounds noobish please forgive me, I haven't had Android phone before (or linux on my PCs).
Please correct me if/where I'm wrong.
My phone is:
LOCKED
S-ON
HBOOT-1.45.0013
with T-Mobile's ROM full of useless junk (I knew that would be the case when I bought it, I had WinMo phones from T-Mo before and they always were loaded with garbage, which I always flashed with modded ROMs, I don't know why I just assumed all Android phones are easy to root and flash shouldve done some reading here first...)
So, after reading a lot of threads here today it seems that:
1 - I cannot change my ROM (due to S-ON and bootloader version that hasn't been cracked yet), is that correct?
2 - I cannot get rid of T-Mobile's junk from my stock rom either, because even if I use the "temp-perma-SuperUser" method, delete the "bloatware" apk, the bootloader will do crc check on next boot and restore them all again, is that correct?
3 - Assuming I understood 1 and 2 correctly, is there a way to stop the "bloatware" from starting at boot? For WinMo 6.x we had few different utilities that basically work on the phone similar to batch scripts on Windows, and a lot of automation could be achieved with those; if there is something like this for Android could it be automated to stop some of the bloatware and remove their shortcuts from menu at every boot?
(i.e. T-Mobile's-specific apps such as "My Account" or "Visual Voicemail", specially the latter bugs me the most because my canadian provider Wind doesn't have Visual voicemail and I can't just tap on "voicemail" without being nagged to enable visual voicemail every time I tap on voicemail in notifications, its so annoying)
4 - How on earth do I make videocalls with this phone and ROM? (yes I searched forum for that and found "Qik" which is not what I'm asking about - I can install i.e. Skype and it'll serve me better than this Qik)
On my last WinMo phone I just tapped the "camera" icon in the phone app and it did videocall using data connection. I can't find anything like it (nor anything pointing to videocall or datacall) on this phone, what am I missing?
Any answers appreciated, TIA!
Well ill just start by saying 1 is wrong so you might want to do some more reading chief, i didnt get through the rest of your post yet just wanted to say your first thought is wrong
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Thanks. It seems like you're right, as I just found in post from yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657414
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?
MT4GS said:
Thanks. It seems like you're right, as I just found in post from yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657414
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?
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Couldnt tell ya man, maybe it does it by gmail addresses? I never use my ffc, i have a iTurd for facetime thats it. My android is my pocket PC lol so mostly all text based things
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"iTurd" lol certain Steve blowjobs must be screaming in his grave for such sacrilege!
MT4GS said:
"iTurd" lol certain Steve blowjobs must be screaming in his grave for such sacrilege!
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I couldnt pass a pair of brand new 4th gens for 2 hundred man, only reason they were bought is because i dont live with my 2 year old daughter so we facetime when i dont see her
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strapped365 said:
I couldnt pass a pair of brand new 4th gens for 2 hundred man, only reason they were bought is because i dont live with my 2 year old daughter so we facetime when i dont see her
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Man, seems like same case here, my sonny is bit older than your dottie, but he too lives with his mother... that's my only reason for videocall need in this phone
MT4GS said:
Man, seems like same case here, my sonny is bit older than your dottie, but he too lives with his mother... that's my only reason for videocall need in this phone
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Yeah hmm maybe find a friend that has a phone with a ffc and video call and see if once you add all the info to the address book it gives you the option to video call. I would say google talk has video call but its trash. Then again you might have to use a 3rd party app like qik, thats what comes stock right
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I know exactly what you mean. I came over to this phone about 2 months ago from a Touch Pro 2. Boy the difference is figuring out how to get around the security on it.
Anyway, just use HTC's unlock tool assuming you are on the newest software version. If you're not, then update to the newest. This will allow you to flash custom ROMs. Flash Clockworkmod recovery. Then just flash superuser through it. This will give you root and the ability to delete the bloatware.
You'll still be S-on, but will be able to flash any custom ROM you want, you just have to push the kernel separately through ADB instead of in a nice neat package.
Yes HappyKhicken it seems much more work to customize it than it was with any Windows Mobile. Not that it would discourage me its just an observation.
I'm still reading around, I have just found out about the "wire trick" to make radio S-OFF, so I want to learn as much as possible before I do anything other than hard reset.
Since you also had TP2 can you explain to me how do you make a videocall here?
I can't figure out how to make videocall at all
If you remember in WinMo (well, depending on ROM and dialer canvas version you had of course) when you tap phone there was the icon that looked like one of those old Logitech round webcams, when you tap this icon it switched to "videocall" to the person you were dialing, and if this person didn't have video capability it switch back to "voice". Can't find anything like this here.
Also probably stupid question: is it possible to restore unlocked/s-off phone back to being locked with s-on and full of junk stock rom? (in case I would need to send it back to htc for warranty repair or replacement, I don't have T-Mobile's option with Asurion insurance since I'm not their customer and I'm in Canada)
thx
HappyKhicken said:
Anyway, just use HTC's unlock tool assuming you are on the newest software version. If you're not, then update to the newest. This will allow you to flash custom ROMs. Flash Clockworkmod recovery. Then just flash superuser through it. This will give you root and the ability to delete the bloatware..
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OK. I bit the bullet, went to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809
run the HTC unlock, and now my bootloader says ***UNLOCKED***
(this was easy-peasy, just somehow no one mentioned in htc unlock tool thread - or I didn't notice it - that an account on htcdev is needed, but I made some quick fake email acct and registered there with it, hopefully I won't need it again? I just realized I didn't save any info for these accts lol)
So, next step would be to flash recovery - either CWM or "Stock 1.55" as there are these 2 to choose from at fifth step on HTC Unlock Tool.
What are the difference between these two?
If I flash one of them now, can I flash the other one later?
I'm not going to flash any new ROM yet, I need to get accustomed to Android first, but I would want to get rid of some bloatware and T-Mobile-specific apps that came with stock ROM since I'm not on T-Mobile. I know I need to flash CWM or Stock Recovery to gain root access, but I don't know which one should I choose / what are the major difference / advantages / disadvantages ?
MT4GS said:
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?
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Skype works very well on this phone. I've done videochat with a few friends, one of them using another Android, the other friend on an iPhone 4S. We were using Skype since that is a common software for us. Oh, I forgot, I also did Skype video chat using my MT4GS to another friend in Turkey, he was using his laptop. Great thing about Skype is it works on 4G or Wi-Fi (I have unlimited 4G data so I don't worry about it).
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Skype works very well on this phone. I've done videochat with a few friends, one of them using another Android, the other friend on an iPhone 4S. We were using Skype since that is a common software for us. Oh, I forgot, I also did Skype video chat using my MT4GS to another friend in Turkey, he was using his laptop. Great thing about Skype is it works on 4G or Wi-Fi (I have unlimited 4G data so I don't worry about it).
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Thanks. Yeah, I installed Skype from Google Play (I think Android Market was better name) and indeed it works great. I think sound quality is way better than Skype for Window Mobile, maybe it is better than 'regular voicecall' too, or so it seems.
But it came to me clear now, and I can't believe it, but despite most of Android 'smartphones' having front cameras, the OS itself doesn't have videocall capability built-in, am I correct?
It's kinda let down if true? because AFAIR even my old TyTN II (thats ancient 2007 model) and every other WinMo smartphone with front camera I had after that also had videocall built-in right there in the dialer
Good god it took me two days to realize I needed to reenable usb debugging after the bootloader unlocked. AJSNFLASKDA
thenpaxtongoes said:
Good god it took me two days to realize I needed to reenable usb debugging after the bootloader unlocked. AJSNFLASKDA
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OK... care to explain more, specially that you post the same comment in other thread (so I guess it is either important or spam)...
I'm sure I'm not the only noob to this phone and Android OS in general, so:
Why does the usb port need to be in debug mode and how do I start it if it is necessary?
MT4GS said:
OK... care to explain more, specially that you post the same comment in other thread (so I guess it is either important or spam)...
I'm sure I'm not the only noob to this phone and Android OS in general, so:
Why does the usb port need to be in debug mode and how do I start it if it is necessary?
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To do many adb functions the device must be in debug mode.
The usb port itself isn't in debug mode, rather the whole device is.
In a very technical sense, a ROM is not 'polished' or 'finished' if it releases with usb debugging enabled - but I released mine that way because I use it so very often.
The setting is in:
Settings - Applications - Development
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Thank you Blue6IX for excellent explanation and thenpaxtongoes for the reminder
Now to root my unlocked phone:
volume down + power, to go into hboot, plug in usb, fire up HTC Unlocker Tool and install CWM or Stock recovery, but do I need to change on my phone's hboot menu screen down to Recovery first or do I keep it at default Fastboot to install one of the Recoveries?
Another question is which recovery to install? It seems CWM is the one to go with but what are the advantages/disadvantages of CWM vs Stock 1.55 recovery? TIA
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I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?
MT4GS said:
RESURRECTING an old thread
I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?
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What I find the easiest to do is just use something like My Backup Pro or Titanium Backup to "freeze" the things I don't want, usually those things from T-Mobile or HTC that startup in the background but I never use. Like the Group Messaging stuff (there are 3 processes associated with that, I freeze all 3), the SWM-C process, T-Mobile ID (a caller-ID type thing you have to pay for). Yes, they still take up storage space but that is negligible, by freezing them they no longer are taking up processing/battery time.
MT4GS said:
RESURRECTING an old thread
I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?
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Here is the original thread that was started a long time ago. I have still found it useful on occassion. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1222672&highlight=bloat
We have got to give it to HTC here. The One S is, quite possibly, the easiest phone to root and flash there is. The instructions are so easy, even a caveman can do it. It literally took me less than 20 minutes to get CM9 installed on my brand spankin new One S...and most of that time was spent waiting on the slow WiFi at Starbucks to catch up.
I'm in love. For now.
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We have got to give it to HTC here. The One S is, quite possibly, the easiest phone to root and flash there is. The instructions are so easy, even a caveman can do it. It literally took me less than 20 minutes to get CM9 installed on my brand spankin new One S...and most of that time was spent waiting on the slow WiFi at Starbucks to catch up.
I'm in love. For now.
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Thank the devs not HTC. HTC actually slowed development at first by not releasing code right away. Samsung GS3 is actually easier.
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You've obviously never used a Motorola Triumph. That is the easiest phone to root and flash.
I hate that device.
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villainhalf said:
You've obviously never used a Motorola Triumph. That is the easiest phone to root and flash.
I hate that device.
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I like my Triumph seems pretty indestructible, yea it's easy to root and flash, I want the HTC evo V
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You can say many great things about the one s, but it's NOT the easiest phone to root. You have to u unlock bootloader and we still don't have s off: /
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Perhaps I'm a little jaded. I came from using the Galaxy S II and the Vibrant where getting a custom ROM installed was considerably more time consuming.
I don't understand the disadvantages of unlocking the bootloader when HTC made it very easy to re-lock (though not with factory encryption) and they still honor hardware damages if the phone is still under warranty.
I also don't understand the advantages of having S-OFF. Perhaps your experiences are different, but I've never gained any advantages from switching radios on any device I've owned.
I guess using the regular USB drivers provided by Google and being able to unlock the bootloader directly from fastboot without having to decrypt its unlock key would have made it easier, but it was a moot point to me given that HTC made both of these very easy to do.
And yes, the developers here are nothing short of amazing.
The one thing I want S-OFF for is repartitioning. I don't need 2 gb for apps, 1 would do, and I certainly DO NOT need 4 gb for system. That's just crazy. So after that I will have 3 gb more storage for nandroids, music, videos etc. That will be awesome
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The one thing I want S-OFF for is repartitioning. I don't need 2 gb for apps, 1 would do, and I certainly DO NOT need 4 gb for system. That's just crazy. So after that I will have 3 gb more storage for nandroids, music, videos etc. That will be awesome
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+1, looking for that. In the mean time I use the /data partition to store videos since it has like 1.5 GB lying around doing nothing. Just have to change the permission for /data to be readable by all. I would use the 2 GB+ on /system also, but then it would be erased whenever a new ROM is flashed I think.
The One S is far from being an easy phone to root. It's certainly not hard and don't require lot of steps or requirements like a Gold Card but still...
When I had a LG G2x, rooting it was baby easy: Install APX drivers on windows, boot the phone in update mode, shoot it CWM in one click with NvFlasher, flash your rom, done.
I found Samsung phones easier to Install custom Roms than HTC devices. Don't get me wrong, I love HTC's, soo much that I sold my 3weeks old SGSII just to buy the ONE S ( And I have owned other 5 HTC Phones)
On samsungs you only have to get into download mode and flash recovery and custom rom via Odin.
HTC made it easier now on the ONE Series, but you still have to unlock the bootloader via HTC Dev and bla bla bla bla, previous HTC Devices used to be a PITA considering we had to unlock bootloader (and in other cases install a ENG bootloader) hack to get Super CID, Obtain S-OFF and so on...
NienorGT said:
When I had a LG G2x, rooting it was baby easy: Install APX drivers on windows, boot the phone in update mode, shoot it CWM in one click with NvFlasher, flash your rom, done.
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I was gonna mention this too. I hesitated to root my HOS for a couple of months because it seemed complicated compared to the G2x.
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I thought the Desire was really easy to root and S-Off. Back in the day.
HTC don't really deserve any props. They give us a half assed unlock offering, when what people really want is s-off. When I had my One S, I could have really done with being able to partition and get some of the /data storage that I was never gonna use on to the /sdcard partition as I used up the measly amount of storage quite quickly.
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I thought the Desire was really easy to root and S-Off. Back in the day.
HTC don't really deserve any props. They give us a half assed unlock offering, when what people really want is s-off. When I had my One S, I could have really done with being able to partition and get some of the /data storage that I was never gonna use on to the /sdcard partition as I used up the measly amount of storage quite quickly.
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They could gave us a completely locked device...
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I think the HTC phones which can use Revolutionary method are most easy to get S-OFF. Like Incredible S. The only thing you have to do is running a little tool.exe on your pc with your phone connected. Almost full automatic and in a few minutes. And yes we just could run that tool on out brand new untouched phones, to gain untouched ROM, Radio and Reovery with S-OFF. Only bootloader is modified.
No locks relocks or tampered messages. Getting back S-ON with full warranty is even more simple. Thats how it has to be.
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If I were a cell manufacturer and I was tired of people sending back s=off bricks for warranty exchanges I would try to stop that from happening myself.
However, u can unlock bootloader flash recovery and SU in 5 minutes... seriously. And flashing roms in recovery along with any recovery action is SOOOOOO much faster on our phones then the Amaze 4g that had the s3.
So... really... its not hard to root or flash roms. S=off is another beast... but I get why they make it so hard.
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I would say they deserve mad props, for sure, but its not for the "EASE" of unlocking. Obviously the king in that area would ne ANY nexus device. Its litterally ONE fastboot command and you are done!
However, i found this fairly simple to root and install a custom rom. what i think HTC really deserves props for is the hardware of this phone AND honestly... I know i am gonna get slammed for this, but... SENSE 4. Seriously. Coming from someone that has owned3 previous HTC phones all with varying versions of sense, i gotta say sense 4 is pretty awesome. I do LOVE stock android, but i cant honestly say that it performs any better than TrickDroid or Axiom, and the camera software and picture quality you get on a sense rom is hands down a MILLION times better at teh moment than any CM or AOKP that i have tried.
Habarug said:
The one thing I want S-OFF for is repartitioning. I don't need 2 gb for apps, 1 would do, and I certainly DO NOT need 4 gb for system. That's just crazy. So after that I will have 3 gb more storage for nandroids, music, videos etc. That will be awesome
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this is actually the ONLY reason i have seen to REALLY get s-off. I hadnt thought about repartitioning (but have on other phones) this phone, but man... that makes a LOT of sense!! lol
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HTC don't really deserve any props. They give us a half assed unlock offering, when what people really want is s-off. When I had my One S, I could have really done with being able to partition and get some of the /data storage that I was never gonna use on to the /sdcard partition as I used up the measly amount of storage quite quickly.
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Seriously?? Cmon man... the one s is a damn impressive phone (and this is coming from someone that is EXTREMELY picky about phones). What did you get since you dont have a one s now?
Nexus phones are definitely easy to unlock, but this isn't too far off. 3 fastboot commands vs 1 which equates to, what, 1 more minute of typing at worst?
The only thing that could have made this easier was if the Android USB drivers provided by Google supported this phone out of the box. The other drivers should have been easier to find too, but c'est la vie.
Still easier to unlock and root than the Vibrant, GS2 and even the Inspire I had before it.
The design of this phone is definitely top-notch, though its real test will be how it holds up six months from now. That is usually a problem point for HTC devices.
What I wish now is that HTC could make us able to use the ImageSense chip in AOSP roms as well
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You've obviously never used a Motorola Triumph. That is the easiest phone to root and flash.
I hate that device.
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I used to have a Moto Triumph (good riddance VM)
It wasnt too hard to root, but it had weird problems
Most definetly one of the most durable phones ive ever had though (I started with the Samsung Intercept, then Optimus V, then Triumph, now One S)
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What I wish now is that HTC could make us able to use the ImageSense chip in AOSP roms as well
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Man, i REALLY wish this would happen. I am really loving the new Sense... HOWEVER, the camera is what keeps me from running any AOSP rom for an extended period of time. Its really bad in any AOSP rom i have tried.
Ok so heres the short of it. I was attempting to root my phone with the Hasoon V1.1 Tool kit and needless to say, everything went wrong. Here's what happened. I did everything to unlock the bootloader. Got my token ID and all that stuff. Next, I loaded the twrp recovery. Cleared everything out of the phone, and went to load a rom. It kept telling me "Failed" when I tried applying the rom. It ended up getting into a boot loop and wouldn't do much. I got it to go back to the recovery when this started and still it wouldn't load any of the ATT Htc One x Roms. I made sure those were the ones I had. Now, at random throughout the process at some point last night, it wouldn't do anything. It has a blank screen. When I plug it in, the status light shows nothing. It was on the charger last night all night, and has not changed. No status light, no screen, nothing! I know you guys are going to ask for more information, but low and behold, like most people you smart guys deal with, I'm a noob. I rooted my google G1, and my HTC inspire without too much trouble, but this is just completely beyond me. As I was doing research I read about problems people were having with the blank screen of death. I'm just worried because I don't have insurance and I'm pretty much screwed without a phone. Does anyone have any input as to what I can do? I'm just beyond aggrivated not having a phone, and I don't have much money to be getting a new one. PLEASE HELP ME
-Mike
Which Rom exactly were you trying to install?
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Which ROM you flashed? Did you successfully root? Can you hold power + volume down to access twrp? Did you try to charge it? What does it do when plugged to computer?
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Which ROM you flashed? Did you successfully root? Can you hold power + volume down to access twrp? Did you try to charge it? What does it do when plugged to computer?
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This, as well as... Which phone do you have, the X or XL. The XL is specific in which rooting method you can use.
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-Power and volume down do absolutely nothing
-Rom was Endeavoru Cyanogen Mod
-Kernel was Franco Kernel r21
-Plugged into computer, does nothing. No status light, nothing.
I am thinking it wasn't the software that did it. It was plugged into the usb port of my laptop the whole time, but may have died. I read online somewhere if you completely discharge the phone, you need a special charger to charge it. If I loaded the wrong kernel it could have gotten below it's "dead" percentage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but with Lithium Ion batteries, completely discharging them is not good for the battery. If it had nothing to tell it to stop, and the usb port on my laptop didn't keep up with the amount I was messing with it, it could just be completely dead. I don't know. I'm an idiot and I apologize about all the gapps I'm giving you guys with information. I'm doing the best I can, but bottom line is after it didn't work at first, I tried a few different recoveries with Hasoons tool kit, and a couple different roms but the roms never loaded. Always failed.
The phone I have I believe to be the One X, but I don't know the difference. When I booted my phone, it did the HTC Quietly Brilliant screen, then the ATT Rethink possible screen. What is the difference between the one X and one XL? I thought the XL was a larger version of the phone unfortunately, and now I'm seeing differently. It's the ATT phone, 16 gb internal storage, mini sim on the top, Dual Core processor not quad core.
With your battery being so low and possibly even dead when you tried to do anything with it, could have a problem. The other problem, if my memory is correct in what I was reading the Endeavoru cyanogen ROM is for the X only, international version. If yours is AT&T like you say, if the flash was performed correctly.... I hate to say this but you might have a nice $500 paperweight, for now. I would PM Abdolutelygrim and see what he thinks, unless he isn't already here.. his current project is unbricking Evita.
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The phone I have I believe to be the One X, but I don't know the difference. When I booted my phone, it did the HTC Quietly Brilliant screen, then the ATT Rethink possible screen. What is the difference between the one X and one XL? I thought the XL was a larger version of the phone unfortunately, and now I'm seeing differently. It's the ATT phone, 16 gb internal storage, mini sim on the top, Dual Core processor not quad core.
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You have what we call an HTC one xl or AT&T one x. The phones look almost exactly the same but the internal components are completely different. (youre in the right forum)
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I went through almost the same thing last night, with the exception of my battery dying. In the event that you are able to get the phone to charge, this guide helped me get my phone working again.
Good luck!
The phone was fully charged when I began, and I periodically connected and disconnected it when I was having my initial problems. I deleted my cache dalvic cache, etc everything after I saved all my important pictures and videos and files etc. so I just deleted everything to start over fresh. I don't know what the hell I did. I just figured this wouldnt be too hard since I did it with 2 of my own phones in the past, and a few friends phones also. I think my problem may have been with being ignorant and not knowing there were multiple versions of this phone that all look identical but aren't. Ohhhhhhhh boy. This is bad lol.
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I think my problem may have been with being ignorant and not knowing there were multiple versions of this phone that all look identical but aren't. Ohhhhhhhh boy. This is bad lol.
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That is indeed your problem. The One X and One XL use a different partition layout, and international roms will attempt to overwrite the One XL boot partition. Hboot is wp in 2.20 but not in earlier versions. Even so, you can end up with corrupted firmware even if hboot is untouched. Numerous people have done it. Some devs are working on a way to fix this. Here's the thread, you'll need to get yourself in the queue or just see if you can get a replacement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966850
Replacement isn't an option. I didn't get a chance to get insurance on it because I cracked the digitizer within the first 2 weeks of having the phone, and I opened it last night to see if something from when I cracked the digitizer came loose causing the phone to not boot. Thanks for the feedback so far guys. I'm not expecting miracles. I put myself into this mess, I'm just really hoping someone may be able to fix it soon. Not having a phone is really going to put a damper on my side work. Can't get phone calls from people on craigslist if I don't have a phone SH!T
Do you know what firmware your phone was on before you did this........it will be the determining factor if it's fixable atm
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I'm wondering if when I was trying to use CWM it screwed me up too. I read in a few peoples signatures that CWM also isn't compatable with the One XL. I feel like the biggest jackass. I'm the computer/cell phone/electronics guy in my area, and now I feel as if I should go into early retirement. I will stay open minded and hopeful that absolutelygrim and others come up with a solution, but bottom line, for all you guys that have made this process damn near idiot proof for people like me, I want to say thanks, and also apologize for all of us noobs that make something as simple as knowing what you are doing before you do it and following directions harder for the developers. It's awesome you guys do what you do in your spare time, only for people like myself to make it more of a hastle. Once again, thanks for trying to fix this guys. My bad.
18th... I was on 2.20. I read that there is a work around for 1.80(I think that's the firmware), but either way, yes I was on 2.20. I have been looking once a week for a new exploit to be able to root the one x, since there wasnt any options until about a week ago if you had 2.20. I bet that's why there are so many people screwing this up. They, like myself, are probably so eager to root it they don't take their time. I remember the first time I rooted my HTC inspire I took about 3-4 hours because I quadrouple checked what I was doing. And damn it am I kicking myself in the ass that I didn't do that this time around.
The problem was the endeavor Rom....but depending on what firmware you were on, 1.85 or 2.20 it can be fixed. If you were on 1.85 or below, it's fixable right now. If 2.20 then not atm.
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I'm wondering if when I was trying to use CWM it screwed me up too. I read in a few peoples signatures that CWM also isn't compatable with the One XL.
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The problem with CWM is that the version for the One XL is an unsupported port. So it's buggy, but the worst I've heard of it doing is corrupting people's sd card or occasionally borking installs, both of which are easily fixable.
The only time I've heard of CWM bricking One XL phones is when people use ROM Manager (which isn't supported for this phone, though GP will let you install it anyway) to install the endeavour version, which causes the same problem as flashing an endeavour rom.
Dang.. I thought it was just icecoldjelly that been banging up peoples OneX. I guess the new hboots aren't as noob-proof as we thought
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InflatedTitan said:
Dang.. I thought it was just icecoldjelly that been banging up peoples OneX. I guess the new hboots aren't as noob-proof as we thought
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It very well could be just Ice Cold Jelly. There is no guarantee something else I did last night bricked my phone. I know I attempted ICJ, and a few other stupid and ignorant attempts. But, I would guess it was from that.
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I know I attempted ICJ
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There you are. That is surely the culprit.
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There you are. That is surely the culprit.
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Lol... I knew I could get it out of him
Just jokin, hope everything works out OP... just keep following absolutelygrimm's unbricking thread and hope for a breakthrough
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