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Hi gang, just got my gorgeous Inspire

I've been wanting an Inspire for a long time and thought I would have had to pay full price for it rather than a consignment deal. Looks like I was wrong and I went ahead and snagged one.
This is just a purely outstanding phone. It is AT&T's version of the DesireHD and I've been using a DHD ROM on my HD2 for quite some time now. I'm very familiar with the ROM my Inspire has, all the setup and functionality, and setting this Inspire up was nothing new. There are a few minor difference here and there, though. I can say it is definitely smoother and cleaner and quicker than DHD on my HD2.
Not really sure if I will try to root it or not. The last time I tried to root a genuine Android phone was nothing shy of a pain and misery of frustration. It was a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G and it just would not root. That was the first and only time I ever attempted a root. It left me with a very sour experience. However, not being rooted, I can't use my backup programs like MyBackup or Titanium. Nor can I use my screen capture app, ShootMe. I don't really need to use any of those, though.
Anyway, I'm enjoying my Inspire and I look forward to interacting with and being "Inspired"...lol...at the XDA Inspire community.

I was a newbie with rooting but once I did it it was EASY and worth it.
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Some Android phones can be easily rooted than others. It all depends on the manufacturer and model of the phone. Don't let one bad experience ruin it for you. Here are links to two proven methods of rooting the Inspire if you are interested...
HTC Inspire Hack Kit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
HTC Inspire 4G Simple Root and S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406

Use the Simple Root but trust me, save yourself some later hassle and click the "Fixes" option when you're done and flash the ENG S-OFF (radio S-OFF) so if you change radios, you don't lose S-OFF plus you get engineering features like fastboot (allows you to flash new radio images for one but also allows you to try out images before you actually flash them, through fastboot, which can be handy when you aren't sure about something or you are testing a new ROM)

Guys, the user experience with this Inspire is just getting better and better. It now is super fast compared to my experience with HD2 DHD ROMs. The boot-up is almost instantaneous and the page loading in menus like Manage Apps is so much faster now.
I doubt I will ever even root this glorious machine. I'm admiring like an iPhone.
For anyone on the fence about a purchase, Hell yes! Let it have a couple days of break-in and you will see the difference from first turning it on. I'm just glad I chose the Inspire over the Atrix. The Atrix is a super nice machine, but I just don't believe it can top the silky-smooth and top-notch user experience of the Inspire.

you got it right when you said the Inspire was gorgeous....my roommate is all about his iphone4, and i'm all about hating on apple (used them for 3 years and couldn't wait to be done) and telling him how great android is.
Lets just say i caught him today picking up my phone and telling me how awesome it was and how he actually wanted one after playing with the Inspire. I had the Captivate and that just didn't do anything for him, but the Inspire is just perfect!

buddy17 said:
you got it right when you said the Inspire was gorgeous....my roommate is all about his iphone4, and i'm all about hating on apple (used them for 3 years and couldn't wait to be done) and telling him how great android is.
Lets just say i caught him today picking up my phone and telling me how awesome it was and how he actually wanted one after playing with the Inspire. I had the Captivate and that just didn't do anything for him, but the Inspire is just perfect!
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The Inspire has some serious appeal. I still love my iPhone 4, but the Inspire has a quality all its own. My serious personal view of the DesireHD/Inspire 4G is that it should be the actual Android flagship smartphone. The OS...Android 2.2.1...combined with HTC's Sense 2.0 is just purely the cream-of-the-crop. The lag some people complain about with Android just isn't even a hint in this OS and on this hardware. I owned a WP7 HTC HD7 for about half a year and found the UI to be the smoothest I'd ever experienced. There was nothing that was a smooth. That was then, this is now. This Inspire is easily just as smooth, quick and clean as that WP7 HTC HD7. And the battery life is a little bit better, too.

Just got my Inspire two days ago. A bit leery of rooting myself. I've read the threads and instructions a few times, as well as watched the video, but I'm just terribly afraid of making a bad mistake, lol.

Sukuiku said:
Just got my Inspire two days ago. A bit leery of rooting myself. I've read the threads and instructions a few times, as well as watched the video, but I'm just terribly afraid of making a bad mistake, lol.
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For what root provides, I just see no desire to do it. The sum total of the apps I won't be able to use are currently 3, MyBackup Root, Titanium backup Pro, ShootMe. For how well this phone works and how clean it is, I'm wanting to keep the iPhone style feeling I have with it. Rooting it and such would just lead to a mess for me. It would strip away the pristine cleanness and purity of this fine piece of hardware.

Understandable. I would love to be able to use ShootMe and install new themes, but with being so new at things like this, the risk seems greater than the reward. I installed Launcher Pro and I'm pretty satisfied with the amount of customability I have with it, though.
I know there's a lot more its capable of after being rooted but most of it isn't something I would use, lol.

Sukuiku said:
Understandable. I would love to be able to use ShootMe and install new themes, but with being so new at things like this, the risk seems greater than the reward. I installed Launcher Pro and I'm pretty satisfied with the amount of customability I have with it, though.
I know there's a lot more its capable of after being rooted but most of it isn't something I would use, lol.
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If you mean skins, don't worry about the them. I installed a bunch of them on mine and there is no risk that I can see. Currently using the Wildflower HD and it works just like the original. I think I have 20 skins installed.

There isn't really much risk rooting the phone - the only real risk is if you apply ENG S-OFF because that involves replacing the bootloader and if something goes wrong there, you're bricked.

I don't see why everyone is afraid of rooting this phone, this is the first Android phone I've ever owned, and the first I've ever seen rooted, and I was done in a couple hours, it was easy, just read and follow instructions. For me being able to take screenshots is the biggest reason I rooted, but have found many other reasons that I'm glad I did. Messing with an iPhone for a year, if I screwed something up I would be in for a long process of re-syncing and setting everything up, but with clockworkmod, if u screw something up, a backup including all data and settings in all apps is just 10 mins away. Being able to overclock to add a little extra smoothness to the UI is very nice. And having the freedom to run the software I want and not run the software I don't want is huge.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App

tjb433 said:
I don't see why everyone is afraid of rooting this phone, this is the first Android phone I've ever owned, and the first I've ever seen rooted, and I was done in a couple hours, it was easy, just read and follow instructions. For me being able to take screenshots is the biggest reason I rooted, but have found many other reasons that I'm glad I did. Messing with an iPhone for a year, if I screwed something up I would be in for a long process of re-syncing and setting everything up, but with clockworkmod, if u screw something up, a backup including all data and settings in all apps is just 10 mins away. Being able to overclock to add a little extra smoothness to the UI is very nice. And having the freedom to run the software I want and not run the software I don't want is huge.
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It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.

MartyLK said:
It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
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Rooting is well worth the trouble. And to me, having all the bloatware removed yields a more pristine nature...
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

MartyLK said:
It isn't about fear. For me, I prefer to retain the pristine nature of this phone. So I don't want to root it and open it up situations that could slow it down and cause it to be buggy.
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Rooting only makes the phone faster and cleaner, not the reverse;-).

oh ho! wadd up brother!

RogerPodacter said:
Rooting only makes the phone faster and cleaner, not the reverse;-).
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No, I disagree. Rooting allows you to do things that can cause issues. For people who know how to program and code, they can usually get better results. But for people who just need a phone to work and do what it normally does, rooting can be destructive.

MartyLK said:
No, I disagree. Rooting allows you to do things that can cause issues. For people who know how to program and code, they can usually get better results. But for people who just need a phone to work and do what it normally does, rooting can be destructive.
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yes ROOTING can cause somewhat destruction.
today while upgrading my phone to COREDROID, that thing bricked my phone. Somehow, I managed to fix my phone.
The coredroid thing made my BOOTING SCREEN STUCK. never got to its next step.
im not a coder or anything, im just following guides.

P00t said:
yes ROOTING can cause somewhat destruction.
today while upgrading my phone to COREDROID, that thing bricked my phone. Somehow, I managed to fix my phone.
The coredroid thing made my BOOTING SCREEN STUCK. never got to its next step.
im not a coder or anything, im just following guides.
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This is the reason I haven't rooted. I'm tech-savvy, but not a developer or anything. I see countless threads related to issues that seem to have risen from rooting. Either an issue arises during the process, or something happens that wouldn't have happened without root. And then there's that "you could brick your phone" deal. I'll stay unrooted.

[Q] Commitment issues - Custom ROMs without Unlocked Bootloader

Hi guys,
Longtime iPhone user here, looking to defect. After being inspired by a poster over at The Verge, I embarked on a 30 day trial of a One X yesterday. I've been wanting a nice big screen for a while, and the One X is just all kinds of hot.
Anyhow, I'm still on the fence with a straight up stock device. I suspect I might change my tune with a custom ROM, but I'm now under the impression that a custom ROM is not possible without first unlocking the bootloader. Is this a correct statement? Things have been changing so much over the last week or two with the One X, I'm having a hard time deciphering a clear answer to this.
I'm comfortable with rooting (did this last night) and perfectly comfortable with the process of unlocking the bootloader. But the unlocking scares me a bit, as it doesn't appear to be completely reversible. This doesn't jive to well with my "30 day trial" plans if I decide to return the phone. Seems best I can do is get it back to a "Re-locked" status, which I'm thinking might not be ideal if I decide to return the phone. Who knows, AT&T may not care (or even check), but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Bottom line, I want to dip my toe into the custom ROM pool, but without having to commit to an unlocked bootloader. Possible?

Pretty sure it's not possible, but im not 100%. You need a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) to flash roms and in order to replace the stock recovery I'm pretty sure you need to be bootloader unlocked.

Stiggosaurus said:
Hi guys,
Longtime iPhone user here, looking to defect. After being inspired by a poster over at The Verge, I embarked on a 30 day trial of a One X yesterday. I've been wanting a nice big screen for a while, and the One X is just all kinds of hot.
Anyhow, I'm still on the fence with a straight up stock device. I suspect I might change my tune with a custom ROM, but I'm now under the impression that a custom ROM is not possible without first unlocking the bootloader. Is this a correct statement? Things have been changing so much over the last week or two with the One X, I'm having a hard time deciphering a clear answer to this.
I'm comfortable with rooting (did this last night) and perfectly comfortable with the process of unlocking the bootloader. But the unlocking scares me a bit, as it doesn't appear to be completely reversible. This doesn't jive to well with my "30 day trial" plans if I decide to return the phone. Seems best I can do is get it back to a "Re-locked" status, which I'm thinking might not be ideal if I decide to return the phone. Who knows, AT&T may not care (or even check), but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Bottom line, I want to dip my toe into the custom ROM pool, but without having to commit to an unlocked bootloader. Possible?
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Correct you will need to unlock the downloader. But if you check your bootloader right now, it already says tampered due to rooting. In my experience at&t wont check the status, but more to the point you can unlock the bootloader being it already shows the tampered flag.
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kleeman7 said:
Correct you will need to unlock the downloader. But if you check your bootloader right now, it already says tampered due to rooting. In my experience at&t wont check the status, but more to the point you can unlock the bootloader being it already shows the tampered flag.
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It does show tampered but when run an RUU that goes away.
@OP- Odds are the rep at the AT&T store isn't going to know to check the bootloader to see if it's been unlocked. I'm fairly confident that once you unlock and try out some custom ROMs (CleanROM SE is my recommendation), you won't be going back to iOS any time soon.
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Plus, with fastboot on, it's "harder" to get to bootloader.
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kleeman7 said:
Correct you will need to unlock the downloader. But if you check your bootloader right now, it already says tampered due to rooting. In my experience at&t wont check the status, but more to the point you can unlock the bootloader being it already shows the tampered flag.
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True, but I got the tampered flag to clear last night by flashing the stock RUU back. That did freak me out last night when I noticed it though, and it's the only reason I went back to complete stock last night just to make sure I wasn't already screwed.

_MetalHead_ said:
It does show tampered but when run an RUU that goes away.
@OP- Odds are the rep at the AT&T store isn't going to know to check the bootloader to see if it's been unlocked. I'm fairly confident that once you unlock and try out some custom ROMs (CleanROM SE is my recommendation), you won't be going back to iOS any time soon.
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kleeman7 said:
Plus, with fastboot on, it's "harder" to get to bootloader.
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Interesting! This probably explains why I haven't been able to get into the bootloader for the last 10 minutes! That did the trick though, so thanks for that.
But seriously, I sure wasn't able to get into the bootloader with fastboot enabled. Knowing that, I feel a little more comfortable just going ahead and unlocking now.

I returned a ROM'd up HOX to at&t and they didn't even turn on the screen. You'll be good, they don't ask questions if you're in your 30 days.
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I'm now rooted, bootloader unlocked, and running CleanROM SE 3.0. Thanks for the info everyone, really appreciate it! Now we'll see how the next 30 days goes...
Any other tips/suggestions/ideas for things I should do for an iOS switcher?

Awesome! You're going to love that ROM. Aside from downloading Titanium Backup to keep all your crap backed up should you decide to switch ROMs, I'd say just play around with what you've got for now. I spent 4 months on an iPhone 4S and loved it, but as soon as I got back to Android with my HOX, I haven't missed a minute of my iOS experience. If you get frustrated with anything, just chock it up to learning a new OS and don't be discouraged. I think by the end of your 30 days you will find that Android is actually MORE intuitive and user friendly than iOS, and you won't have to jump through so many hoops to accomplish simple tasks. You are going to love it. Welcome to the wonderful world of Android

_MetalHead_ said:
It does show tampered but when run an RUU that goes away.
@OP- Odds are the rep at the AT&T store isn't going to know to check the bootloader to see if it's been unlocked. I'm fairly confident that once you unlock and try out some custom ROMs (CleanROM SE is my recommendation), you won't be going back to iOS any time soon.
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They've never checked any phone I've returned that was bootloader unlocked or rooted. I do try to go back to as close to stock as possible tho.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
They've never checked any phone I've returned that was bootloader unlocked or rooted. I do try to go back to as close to stock as possible tho.
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Yep, I've returned 2 with relocked bootloaders and they didn't check either phone.

I was on an iphone for 2 1/2 years before taking the plunge into android with the HOX...to be honest I don't miss iOS one bit. I've found that everything I can do with android and this phone stock, I needed a jailbroken iphone to accomplish...
Only reason I rooted and unlocked my HOX was because I'm a "tinkerer" and love customization and the ability to do whatever I want to my device. I haven't flashed any ROM's yet, mainly because I'm still learning this stuff but I'm sure it won't be long..

[RESOLVED]Does Locked Bootloader assures that phone wont get hard bricked??

Hi guys,
I don't own atrix 2 yet but m planning to get one soon so I thought to hit up xda . I am not new to rooting and modding but still don't have idea about locked bootloader as previously I owned optimus one which had unlocked bootloader.
So all I want to know is locker bootloader guarantees that phone wont get hard bricked!!
Also is this device better then htc sensation as u all r having real life experience with the device.. . Thanks

fundoozzz said:
Hi guys,
I don't own atrix 2 yet but m planning to get one soon so I thought to hit up xda . I am not new to rooting and modding but still don't have idea about locked bootloader as previously I owned optimus one which had unlocked bootloader.
So all I want to know is locker bootloader guarantees that phone wont get hard bricked!!
Also is this device better then htc sensation as u all r having real life experience with the device.. . Thanks
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The phone can ABSOLUTELY brick regardless of whether the ATRIX 2's bootloader is locked! Both soft bricking AND hard bricking can occur if your boot image or system image gets borked during a flash or FXZ or by flashing a firmware-based rom that is incompatible with your device. Be sure you read, understand, and have backups in place before doing anything...
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Coming from samsung phone i was also not that aware of concept of locked bootloaders but the simple thing you should understand with locked bootloader is YOU CANNOT FLASH ANY KERNEL THAT HASNT BEEN SIGNED OR VERIFIED BY MOTOROLA. previously i assume you could flash different ROMS or Kernel at your own will but in the device with locked bootloader you cannot flash custom or unsigned bootloader

Apex_Strider said:
The phone can ABSOLUTELY brick regardless of whether the ATRIX 2's bootloader is locked! Both soft bricking AND hard bricking can occur if your boot image or system image gets borked during a flash or FXZ or by flashing a firmware-bases rom that is incompatible with your device. Be sure you read, understand, and have backups in place before doing anything...
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Kind of wrong. a missflash is recoverable by reflashing almost all the time.
That said, it is still possible, just look at Jim, he's gone through 4 or something crazy. It is however very hard, and as long as you are being carefull, you should be fine

Apex_Strider said:
The phone can ABSOLUTELY brick regardless of whether the ATRIX 2's bootloader is locked! Both soft bricking AND hard bricking can occur if your boot image or system image gets borked during a flash or FXZ or by flashing a firmware-based rom that is incompatible with your device. Be sure you read, understand, and have backups in place before doing anything...
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Thanks, I just thought as the bootloader wont get affected so it can still enter fast boot mode irrespective of flashing bad system image and then from fastboot, recovery and everything else can be put back into place, thus the only type of bricking possible being soft brick. Am I wrong with this!!

lkrasner said:
Kind of wrong. a missflash is recoverable by reflashing almost all the time.
That said, it is still possible, just look at Jim, he's gone through 4 or something crazy. It is however very hard, and as long as you are being carefull, you should be fine
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A misflash or somehow screwing up the boot image can cause a bootloop in CWM (this, coming from Jim's knowledge) and can render the phone soft bricked in a sense, but can be FXZ'd with some understanding on how to do this.
I agree lkrasner, as long as you know what you're doing and how to recover in case something unexpected occurs, you should be all set!
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Apex_Strider said:
A misflash or somehow screwing up the boot image can cause a bootloop in CWM (this, coming from Jim's knowledge) and can render the phone soft bricked in a sense, but can be FXZ'd with some understanding on how to do this.
I agree lkrasner, as long as you know what you're doing and how to recover in case something unexpected occurs, you should be all set!
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So it should be concluded that phone will always be recoverable no matter how bad u screw up if u have proper knowledge and can only get soft bricked!!

fundoozzz said:
So it should be concluded that phone will always be recoverable no matter how bad u screw up if u have proper knowledge and can only get soft bricked!!
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As they say, "anything is possible". But you never can be too sure. Theoretically, you should be fine. There are several members here on the forum who can step you through possible fixes -should you find yourself needing them.
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Thanks guys..
M already liking this forum as ppl being so considerate and ready to help at will
What's your opinion guys on atrix 2 vs Sensation??

Apex_Strider said:
A misflash or somehow screwing up the boot image can cause a bootloop in CWM (this, coming from Jim's knowledge) and can render the phone soft bricked in a sense, but can be FXZ'd with some understanding on how to do this.
I agree lkrasner, as long as you know what you're doing and how to recover in case something unexpected occurs, you should be all set!
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Right, softbricking is super easy for us, but it s pretty damn hard to actually hard brick it.

We r a family and ready to help whenever someone needs.... cheers to xda...nd thanks to all devs fo all the amazing stuff....

lkrasner said:
Right, softbricking is super easy for us, but it s pretty damn hard to actually hard brick it.
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This is true. The ONLY reason I have hard bricked my phone so many times, is because I was trying to break the bootloader open, and or bypass it with some code and an unsigned kernel, and I was able to do it, but it will only last one boot, then the pone is hard bricked, and and will not even power on after something like that.
So if you really are not interested in kernel flashing and super overclocking (we can overclock to about 1.2 GHZ without issue), then you should be able to recover from just about anything.

Regarding OP's inquiry about the Sensation vs. Atrix 2...
Spec wise they are even, each phone takes a couple categories, but you probably already knew that.
Since the bootloader is unlocked on the Sensation, it has a ton more ROMs and is way easier too customize, so it wins there, honestly . Although our awesome devs are still persevering well!
From personal experience, the Atrix 2 has satisfied most of my needs. There is the fact that it is not officially compatible with a lot of games, but installing them manually actually shows that they work fine! This phone software has never crashed on me, and app crashes are few and far in between (I can't remember the last time it happened). Great hardware too, only problem is the bootloader.
The Atrix 2 community is great though, it really is like a family, and you can really get answers to questions.

iarejohnsmith said:
Regarding OP's inquiry about the Sensation vs. Atrix 2...
Spec wise they are even, each phone takes a couple categories, but you probably already knew that.
Since the bootloader is unlocked on the Sensation, it has a ton more ROMs and is way easier too customize, so it wins there, honestly . Although our awesome devs are still persevering well!
From personal experience, the Atrix 2 has satisfied most of my needs. There is the fact that it is not officially compatible with a lot of games, but installing them manually actually shows that they work fine! This phone software has never crashed on me, and app crashes are few and far in between (I can't remember the last time it happened). Great hardware too, only problem is the bootloader.
The Atrix 2 community is great though, it really is like a family, and you can really get answers to questions.
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Whats keeping me from sensation is that it uses snapdragon processor while the omap used in atrix 2 uses 45nm architecture which is more efficient in processing and battery, also the camera of sensation is not upto the mark as read in reviews. But on the other side sensation is better looking device with better interface i.e. sense and also better after market firmware support, so this leaves me out in dilemma

go for sense

fundoozzz said:
Whats keeping me from sensation is that it uses snapdragon processor while the omap used in atrix 2 uses 45nm architecture which is more efficient in processing and battery, also the camera of sensation is not upto the mark as read in reviews. But on the other side sensation is better looking device with better interface i.e. sense and also better after market firmware support, so this leaves me out in dilemma
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go for atrix 2 if better gpu & processing power nd longer battery is of ur concern plus it had 4g support ...nd as for software support ,sense is good but it also powerhungary and htc has only 756 MB ram compare to 1024mb ram in atrix 2 btw atrix 2 is geting ics in 10-12 weeks nd there is already a leak i m using nd trust me its pretty darn good ....it wont make u miss sense
go for htc sensation if looks, camera & display of htc matter... camera is actually good compared to atrix 2 nd the phone is more thick at 11.3mm which will hinder usability compare to atrix 2 which is 10.4mm nd very short battery life

GaganPla said:
go for atrix 2 if better gpu & processing power nd longer battery is of ur concern plus it had 4g support ...nd as for software support ,sense is good but it also powerhungary and htc has only 756 MB ram compare to 1024mb ram in atrix 2 btw atrix 2 is geting ics in 10-12 weeks nd there is already a leak i m using nd trust me its pretty darn good ....it wont make u miss sense
go for htc sensation if looks, camera & display of htc matter... camera is actually good compared to atrix 2 nd the phone is more thick at 11.3mm which will hinder usability compare to atrix 2 which is 10.4mm nd very short battery life
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Actually m more on atrix side then on sensation coz got to know that sensation also has wifi death grip issue...
and here is the Motorola's interface review on ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/05/motorola-ics-ui-review/

fundoozzz said:
Actually m more on atrix side then on sensation coz got to know that sensation also has wifi death grip issue...
and here is the Motorola's interface review on ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/05/motorola-ics-ui-review/
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ohh yaa i forgot to mention that wifi issue also.... yup thats right as review says ics is awesome on motorola now.....qudos to motorola 4 that... Nd welcome to atrix 2 family

iarejohnsmith said:
Regarding OP's inquiry about the Sensation vs. Atrix 2...
Spec wise they are even, each phone takes a couple categories, but you probably already knew that.
Since the bootloader is unlocked on the Sensation, it has a ton more ROMs and is way easier too customize, so it wins there, honestly . Although our awesome devs are still persevering well!
From personal experience, the Atrix 2 has satisfied most of my needs. There is the fact that it is not officially compatible with a lot of games, but installing them manually actually shows that they work fine! This phone software has never crashed on me, and app crashes are few and far in between (I can't remember the last time it happened). Great hardware too, only problem is the bootloader.
The Atrix 2 community is great though, it really is like a family, and you can really get answers to questions.
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I have to agree with that. Unless you have to mod the crap out of your phone the A2 is great!
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[Q]what causes hard bricking?

I just want to know cuz I'm a coward and I don't want to flash my own roms
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cpu999 said:
I just want to know cuz I'm a coward and I don't want to flash my own roms
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You are my hero of the day
Seriously though, a couple things can cause bricks. Battery pull during radio flash. Flashing a kernel with the wrong mount points. Formatting internal memory is a good way. Not like normal in recovery when you wipe, but in the way when you make your updater-script and aren't paying close attention to what your doing, lol. Yes, I have done this, haha.
There is plenty more ways for sure, but just pay close attention to what your doing and watch other devs around you and learn what they are doing and you'll be fine.

And how do you recover? USB isn't an option anymore and you need a JTAG or similar?

lap777 said:
And how do you recover? USB isn't an option anymore and you need a JTAG or similar?
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Well normally there isn't a way to recover, hence "hard bricked". But, if there is a way there will be a recovery method posted somewhere in your device forums to recover bricks. Its a hard thing to come back from though.
Here is a pretty good example of a hard brick that a fix was eventually found for quite awhile after the device was released, went through eol, and people started leaving for newer devices. All credits go to the legend, Doug Piston of course. HTC Droid Incredible and its 5 vibe hard brick: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110865
I heard jcase (teamandirc) say the GS3 is pretty easy to recover though, so I'm not sure you'd have much issue if you did brick. I'm not familiar with Samsung, I use HTC devices, so I'm not sure what method you boys would use.
I know for HTC devices, bricks most commonly occur when we accidentally mount something wrong, format something incorrectly, or a lot here lately, libs. Libs can cause issues to. The good thing though is we have the protection of a secure bootloader, s-on, which means if something harmful is flashed it won't hurt the phone since the bootloader is unlocked through HTC but still s-on. I think Samsung is about the same in this area. But I don't know. I'm just bored and felt like typing a bunch of text, lol

Good man.
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[Q] Phone Bricked...I Think...

Ok so heres the short of it. I was attempting to root my phone with the Hasoon V1.1 Tool kit and needless to say, everything went wrong. Here's what happened. I did everything to unlock the bootloader. Got my token ID and all that stuff. Next, I loaded the twrp recovery. Cleared everything out of the phone, and went to load a rom. It kept telling me "Failed" when I tried applying the rom. It ended up getting into a boot loop and wouldn't do much. I got it to go back to the recovery when this started and still it wouldn't load any of the ATT Htc One x Roms. I made sure those were the ones I had. Now, at random throughout the process at some point last night, it wouldn't do anything. It has a blank screen. When I plug it in, the status light shows nothing. It was on the charger last night all night, and has not changed. No status light, no screen, nothing! I know you guys are going to ask for more information, but low and behold, like most people you smart guys deal with, I'm a noob. I rooted my google G1, and my HTC inspire without too much trouble, but this is just completely beyond me. As I was doing research I read about problems people were having with the blank screen of death. I'm just worried because I don't have insurance and I'm pretty much screwed without a phone. Does anyone have any input as to what I can do? I'm just beyond aggrivated not having a phone, and I don't have much money to be getting a new one. PLEASE HELP ME
-Mike

Which Rom exactly were you trying to install?
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Which ROM you flashed? Did you successfully root? Can you hold power + volume down to access twrp? Did you try to charge it? What does it do when plugged to computer?
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InflatedTitan said:
Which ROM you flashed? Did you successfully root? Can you hold power + volume down to access twrp? Did you try to charge it? What does it do when plugged to computer?
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This, as well as... Which phone do you have, the X or XL. The XL is specific in which rooting method you can use.
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-Power and volume down do absolutely nothing
-Rom was Endeavoru Cyanogen Mod
-Kernel was Franco Kernel r21
-Plugged into computer, does nothing. No status light, nothing.
I am thinking it wasn't the software that did it. It was plugged into the usb port of my laptop the whole time, but may have died. I read online somewhere if you completely discharge the phone, you need a special charger to charge it. If I loaded the wrong kernel it could have gotten below it's "dead" percentage. Correct me if I'm wrong, but with Lithium Ion batteries, completely discharging them is not good for the battery. If it had nothing to tell it to stop, and the usb port on my laptop didn't keep up with the amount I was messing with it, it could just be completely dead. I don't know. I'm an idiot and I apologize about all the gapps I'm giving you guys with information. I'm doing the best I can, but bottom line is after it didn't work at first, I tried a few different recoveries with Hasoons tool kit, and a couple different roms but the roms never loaded. Always failed.

The phone I have I believe to be the One X, but I don't know the difference. When I booted my phone, it did the HTC Quietly Brilliant screen, then the ATT Rethink possible screen. What is the difference between the one X and one XL? I thought the XL was a larger version of the phone unfortunately, and now I'm seeing differently. It's the ATT phone, 16 gb internal storage, mini sim on the top, Dual Core processor not quad core.

With your battery being so low and possibly even dead when you tried to do anything with it, could have a problem. The other problem, if my memory is correct in what I was reading the Endeavoru cyanogen ROM is for the X only, international version. If yours is AT&T like you say, if the flash was performed correctly.... I hate to say this but you might have a nice $500 paperweight, for now. I would PM Abdolutelygrim and see what he thinks, unless he isn't already here.. his current project is unbricking Evita.
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The phone I have I believe to be the One X, but I don't know the difference. When I booted my phone, it did the HTC Quietly Brilliant screen, then the ATT Rethink possible screen. What is the difference between the one X and one XL? I thought the XL was a larger version of the phone unfortunately, and now I'm seeing differently. It's the ATT phone, 16 gb internal storage, mini sim on the top, Dual Core processor not quad core.
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You have what we call an HTC one xl or AT&T one x. The phones look almost exactly the same but the internal components are completely different. (youre in the right forum)
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I went through almost the same thing last night, with the exception of my battery dying. In the event that you are able to get the phone to charge, this guide helped me get my phone working again.
Good luck!

The phone was fully charged when I began, and I periodically connected and disconnected it when I was having my initial problems. I deleted my cache dalvic cache, etc everything after I saved all my important pictures and videos and files etc. so I just deleted everything to start over fresh. I don't know what the hell I did. I just figured this wouldnt be too hard since I did it with 2 of my own phones in the past, and a few friends phones also. I think my problem may have been with being ignorant and not knowing there were multiple versions of this phone that all look identical but aren't. Ohhhhhhhh boy. This is bad lol.

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I think my problem may have been with being ignorant and not knowing there were multiple versions of this phone that all look identical but aren't. Ohhhhhhhh boy. This is bad lol.
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That is indeed your problem. The One X and One XL use a different partition layout, and international roms will attempt to overwrite the One XL boot partition. Hboot is wp in 2.20 but not in earlier versions. Even so, you can end up with corrupted firmware even if hboot is untouched. Numerous people have done it. Some devs are working on a way to fix this. Here's the thread, you'll need to get yourself in the queue or just see if you can get a replacement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966850

Replacement isn't an option. I didn't get a chance to get insurance on it because I cracked the digitizer within the first 2 weeks of having the phone, and I opened it last night to see if something from when I cracked the digitizer came loose causing the phone to not boot. Thanks for the feedback so far guys. I'm not expecting miracles. I put myself into this mess, I'm just really hoping someone may be able to fix it soon. Not having a phone is really going to put a damper on my side work. Can't get phone calls from people on craigslist if I don't have a phone SH!T

Do you know what firmware your phone was on before you did this........it will be the determining factor if it's fixable atm
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I'm wondering if when I was trying to use CWM it screwed me up too. I read in a few peoples signatures that CWM also isn't compatable with the One XL. I feel like the biggest jackass. I'm the computer/cell phone/electronics guy in my area, and now I feel as if I should go into early retirement. I will stay open minded and hopeful that absolutelygrim and others come up with a solution, but bottom line, for all you guys that have made this process damn near idiot proof for people like me, I want to say thanks, and also apologize for all of us noobs that make something as simple as knowing what you are doing before you do it and following directions harder for the developers. It's awesome you guys do what you do in your spare time, only for people like myself to make it more of a hastle. Once again, thanks for trying to fix this guys. My bad.
18th... I was on 2.20. I read that there is a work around for 1.80(I think that's the firmware), but either way, yes I was on 2.20. I have been looking once a week for a new exploit to be able to root the one x, since there wasnt any options until about a week ago if you had 2.20. I bet that's why there are so many people screwing this up. They, like myself, are probably so eager to root it they don't take their time. I remember the first time I rooted my HTC inspire I took about 3-4 hours because I quadrouple checked what I was doing. And damn it am I kicking myself in the ass that I didn't do that this time around.

The problem was the endeavor Rom....but depending on what firmware you were on, 1.85 or 2.20 it can be fixed. If you were on 1.85 or below, it's fixable right now. If 2.20 then not atm.
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I'm wondering if when I was trying to use CWM it screwed me up too. I read in a few peoples signatures that CWM also isn't compatable with the One XL.
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The problem with CWM is that the version for the One XL is an unsupported port. So it's buggy, but the worst I've heard of it doing is corrupting people's sd card or occasionally borking installs, both of which are easily fixable.
The only time I've heard of CWM bricking One XL phones is when people use ROM Manager (which isn't supported for this phone, though GP will let you install it anyway) to install the endeavour version, which causes the same problem as flashing an endeavour rom.

Dang.. I thought it was just icecoldjelly that been banging up peoples OneX. I guess the new hboots aren't as noob-proof as we thought
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InflatedTitan said:
Dang.. I thought it was just icecoldjelly that been banging up peoples OneX. I guess the new hboots aren't as noob-proof as we thought
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It very well could be just Ice Cold Jelly. There is no guarantee something else I did last night bricked my phone. I know I attempted ICJ, and a few other stupid and ignorant attempts. But, I would guess it was from that.

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I know I attempted ICJ
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There you are. That is surely the culprit.

iElvis said:
There you are. That is surely the culprit.
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Lol... I knew I could get it out of him
Just jokin, hope everything works out OP... just keep following absolutelygrimm's unbricking thread and hope for a breakthrough
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