Hi,
I'm considering purchasing the android dev phone since I'm not on the t-mobile network and need the phone w/o a contract. I'm aware that the latest version of the dev phone allows you to install paid apps, but not locked apps.
My question is, is there any way to convert my dev phone to an (unlocked) t-mobile image so that it will support paid and locked apps?
Please excuse me in case my question hasn't been framed properly or if it has been asked before, I'm new to these forums and the whole G1 bit.
Thanks in advance.
I'm also curious about a similar question, which is precisely the opposite:
I have a Tmobile phone, running JF1.42. If I change my firmware to ADP1.1, is that going to cause me to not be able to view locked apps on the market?
If you purchase the Android Developer Phone, yes you can flash it to the T-Mobile firmware (search forums for downgrading to RC29 using DREAIMG.NBH and etc) and no, this will not affect your unlock. The unlock is at a separate level (research baseband, and cellphone unlocking).
If you change your T-Mobile G1 to the ADP1 image, yes, you will lose paid apps in the market. Google is blocking the ADP images from accessing the paid apps. (from what i've been told this is done through a user-agent check, and not device id, although i could be wrong).
Hope this helps you guys out
Only protected Apps are not accessible by Dev phones.
Not all paid Apps are protected, only few paid Apps are protected.
As you can see from my sign., I have a T-Mobile G1 phone with a mod Dev firmware. I can buy applications, however, I can't even see protected Apps.
One more question based on this. I've been reading through the forums and I've read that the dev phone comes with a DEV SPL. So basically I wanted to clarify that, the SPL doesn't matter if it is DEV/HARD. I can install the RC33 image by doing the whole RC29 downgrade, etc?
Probably way off here, but if anyone can point me in the right direction. Basically what I'm trying to do is, purchase a dev phone, get the latest rc series on it (and hopefully receive OTA updates). Or is getting OTA updates a bad idea? and I should continue to manually update the image as and when new ones are released?
Thanks in advance.
Oh nohs...
Today i updated my phone with the new security update from zune.
from: v7.0.7000.8 to v7.0.7392.0
and now i cant unlock my phone anymore?!?!??!
FIX MS the chevronwp7 Hack??????
oh nos.... :/
why i updated my phone ((((
hope anybody can help me???
if i want to update i became the notice:
Sorry, I'm having trouble communicationg with the phone.
-Please make sure it's connected using USB
-Please start the Zune application
but it worked nice after the update....?
NEEED HELP! and have any other the same problem???
big thx
Yeah just flash your ROM there are some posts about that in here, but be carefull and chose the right ROM for the right device PS i have not test this but i belive its safe as long you know what your doing by reading every step. i hope that this will help you out
MS fixed the hole that the ChevronWP7 unlocker was using in the NoDo update (7390). You seem to have skipped NoDo and gone straight to the minor security update (7392) but updates are cumulative, so you will have gotten the Chevron hole closed too.
There are a few options here, though.
1) Get an official unlock. If you're a student with a .edu email address, this is free (through Dreamspark, I think). Otherwise, it costs $99. http://create.msdn.com has more info.
2) Restore your phone to 7008 using the Zune software (Settings -> Device -> Update). Then unlock using Chevron, and apply the hacks to prevent it from re-locking. Then re-update.
thx for your fast reply's !
that are bad news for me -.-
is anybody here who have also the same problem like me and have a solution witch worked?
or is it maybe possible to unlock the phone with the new update?
i dont't want to hard reset my phone -.-
We need another method
What we need, especially those of us running Windows XP on disk space restricted PC's, with a Samsung Focus, is a method to unlock that does not require the installation and use of that disk hog Windows Phone Developers Tools. There must be another method that does not require this full install, but possible just some of the connectivity files. Wish someone would come up with it. I have no interest in stealing apps or anything like that. I would just like to be able to load custom ringtones and make some registry changes. Such a simple thing that has proven to be a nightmare using Windows XP.
@JamesAllen:
*WHY* would you run a 10-year-old OS, on a computer with such a restricted disk space that the tools are a burden (agreed they're large, but hard drives are about $0.04 USD / GB right now), and then want to hack on a cutting-edge smartphone OS?
Working to provide a low-footprint, downlevel-OS-compatible tool yourself is great, and I'm sure some people would love to have it. If you want somebody else to do it, though, you may get a better response if you provide a better reason than "my computer is so out-of-date that I could get a 3x better one for less than the cost of my new smartphone."
Oh, and for the record, I'm pretty sure the Developer Registration tool (used for official unlock) and its dependencies, including Zune, comes to less than 200 MB (the Zune install folder is <80 MB).
gore23 said:
thx for your fast reply's !
that are bad news for me -.-
is anybody here who have also the same problem like me and have a solution witch worked?
or is it maybe possible to unlock the phone with the new update?
i dont't want to hard reset my phone -.-
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What phone do you have?
Gladly purchased my HTC Surround. Enjoying it, although Im already missing my Aria [not really, just android]. But, heres the process i've gone through;
*UNLOCK/ROOT*
1.ChevronWP7 [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857127]
^--Didnt work. Error message pops up that It cant communicate
^----Found a new link. [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913748]
^------Only usable after having rooted/unlocked. Whats that? Another link? [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10793775&postcount=52]
2.After looking over this, I found it very interesting. Now, Im very computer literate but that totally lost me since wp7 has thrown me through a loop.
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Now in your hosts. file in \windows\system32\drivers\etc folder, you should set up an entry for developerservices.unlock.me with your computer's own IP address.
Once you do you need to install a new certificate on the phone for whatever host in the URL you made and you will be able to use ChevronWP7 to unlock incase it ever locks you out again.
To simplify the making a self-signed certificate portion, I've created a cert for "developerservices.unlock.me" with the validity date of 1000 days. It's included in this post. Hope this helps you all with maintaining an unlocked Windows Phone 7 and understanding why ChevronWP7 won't unlock anymore.
This all makes sense. To a point, which i've done.
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Now if you change the URL to something else, you will need a corresponding certificate. You can make one with makecert.exe or makessl.exe form the various resource/development toolkits out there on the Microsoft website.
In my example, I'm going to use a site that doesn't exist "developerservices.unlock.me". You should change the PortalUrlProd and PortalUrlInt on the phone
Totally rocked my world. Idk what exactlyto do with a "makecert.exe" program or how else to do anything. Soo....
~~~~~~~~~MY QUESTION~~~~~~~~Who wants to hold my hand and walk me through this ever so confusing process and allow me to root/unlock my HTC Surround and keep it that way even after using zune? :] Btw, i realize i posted the last 2 notes in reverse order. I did that on purpose.
That method of unlocking ONLY works if you have pre-nodo (I.e. software version 7004 or anything BEFORE 7390). If you got a surround recently from AT&T I can almost guarantee it has 7390 or 7392 installed.
HOWEVER! Not all is lost fellow surround user. A nice gentleman over in the Surround forum released the original AT&T 7004 Stock Rom Flashing this will allow you to unlock and then as long as you can follow instructions you can stay unlocked all the way to Mango.
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That method of unlocking ONLY works if you have pre-nodo (I.e. software version 7004 or anything BEFORE 7390). If you got a surround recently from AT&T I can almost guarantee it has 7390 or 7392 installed.
HOWEVER! Not all is lost fellow surround user. A nice gentleman over in the Surround forum released the original AT&T 7004 Stock Rom Flashing this will allow you to unlock and then as long as you can follow instructions you can stay unlocked all the way to Mango.
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has anyone tried going back to pre-nodo and kept their unlock with mango???
any other solution for those who have Mango and tried to dev-unlock successfully???
thanks
There's a way to try and carry a hacked unlock forward to Mango. Read the Development and Hacking sub-forum, specifically the thread about using U2M7720, an app that should (hopefully, if you follow the instructions precisely) allow you to dev-unlock your phone on Mango without a dev account, including interop-unlock (an extension to dev-unlock that allows some apps that normal dev-unlock doesn't allow on Mango).
Starting the process requires being on NoDo though; if you're already on Mango you'll need to roll back, and if you're on pre-NoDo you'll need to upgrade to NoDo and use the trick to carry through your dev-unlock.
How to format or re-use the SD card taken out from HTC surround?
I got the HTC white screen stuck on my HTC surround smart phone, it worked again after replacing the micro sd card. Tried to access or format the old card (the one was taken out from my cell phone) by my laptop, it won't be recognized. Is there any way I can format it and use it again? Thanks!
Currently i am hspl'd and am using a custom rom. although there are great roms, i find it very uneasy having to deal with little bugs and waiting for an update. so i am in the process of trying to go almost completely stock. i have downloaded the most recent official rom for the hd7, RUU_Schubert_S_TMOUS_4.05.531.03_Radio_5.69.09.29a_22.50.50.21_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE.
Now i have extracted it and found that there is a RUU_signed.nbh, so i am wondering if i flash this using wrapper29, will my spl stay unchanged. if so i am planning to update to the internet sharing update, but before that i have to unlock and introp unlock. but i am having trouble finding out how to do the regular unlock... do i pay the 9 bucks for the chevron site?
also out of curiosity is there a way to just update through zune (officially) to the newest update, and be able to edit my registry. the a2dp bitrate values sound horrible. i know ill lose my hspl but all i really need is to be able to edit my registry.
Not sure about the affect on your SPL; my phone is HSPL compatible but I've never installed it.
Make sure the ROM you're flashing is not so new you can't interop-unlock it. If the firmware version is above *.*.50000.*, I don't believe interop-unlock (or registry editing, which is all interop unlock is - a tricksy way of editing the registry) is possible.
To get the basic dev-unlock, you currently need to have an AppHub account from Microsoft ($99/year, or free if you're a student via DreamSpark). The ChevronWP7 Labs unlock (the $9 one you mentioned) had a limited number of unlocks for sale, and sadly they sold out. Everybody is hoping they'll get more soon, but... no word yet.
Hello,
In all my excitement over Tango, I neglected to read any of the warnings posted around the forums/web. I installed Tango via the cab sender method (neglected to make a backup) and everything still worked, or at least the homebrew apps I launched still did. Searching the forums, I found the Samsung firmware somewhere in the replies to the cab thread, and pushed it also. This was late at night and it wasn't until the next day I noticed I can't launch almost half of my homebrew apps. It's said restoring from a backup (don't have one) or flashing back to Mango is the only way to fix this. Is that true? Well ****. Because there is no ROMs (stock nor custom) for the Focus S..
What should I do?
Thanks in advance,
6-4.
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Hello,
In all my excitement over Tango, I neglected to read any of the warnings posted around the forums/web. I installed Tango via the cab sender method (neglected to make a backup) and everything still worked, or at least the homebrew apps I launched still did. Searching the forums, I found the Samsung firmware somewhere in the replies to the cab thread, and pushed it also. This was late at night and it wasn't until the next day I noticed I can't launch almost half of my homebrew apps. It's said restoring from a backup (don't have one) or flashing back to Mango is the only way to fix this. Is that true? Well ****. Because there is no ROMs (stock nor custom) for the Focus S..
What should I do?
Thanks in advance,
6-4.
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Yeah... I want to say you're unfortunately screwed :-\.
To make matters worse, the Wireless manager no longer appears to work for configuring MMS when carrier unlocked. I guess I'll just go back my Quantum's for hacking and hard reset this device ..ill wait a while though.
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Do you have *any* homebrew apps that
A) you can still run
B) you marked as Trusted in WP7 Root Tools?
It sounds like what happened is that your phone reverted from interop-unlock to simple dev-unlock (you presumably have an AppHub account?). However, this does *not* revert root-unlock as applied by WP7 Root Tools. Root Tools itself requires ID_CAP_INTEROPSERIVCES, and as such can't be run without interop-unlock. However, the apps that it has marked as Trusted will continue to run with full permissions (root unlock).
So, here's what you do.
First, identify an app that you can run (i.e. that isn't interop) and that is marked as Trusted.
Second, take the GUID of that app, and use that GUID to replace the ProductId of the Tango-update-workaround app (which essentially just restores interop-unlock).
Third, remove homebrew apps from your phone (but not the target app, the trusted one you can still run) until you are able to deploy an app (usually, this means reduce to 9 homebrew apps).
Fourth, use a XAP deployer that supports updating, and do an update-install of the workaround app (upgrade, because it's using the GUID of the already-installed target).
Fifth, run the workaround app, and then re-install your normal apps.
I did as you instructed, however I still have the 10 sideload limit and am unable to deploy any interop services.By tango workaround app, you meant relockprevent, correct?
Is there something I may have missed?
Like I said, I installed the Samsung LE2 update for the Focus S which is basically the KK2 equivalent, so provxml will no longer work.
Also, I do not have an apphub account.
Bump. Anyone have any ideas? A friend put a support ticket in with Samsung internal support to see if they can get the ROM.
64GUNSHIP said:
Bump. Anyone have any ideas? A friend put a support ticket in with Samsung internal support to see if they can get the ROM.
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Oh so it was that firmware update that just broke interop. Yeah I want to say at this point you are stuck. I doubt that Samsung will give the ROM since it isn't an issue that is preventing you from doing out of the box functionality.
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snickler said:
Oh so it was that firmware update that just broke interop. Yeah I want to say at this point you are stuck. I doubt that Samsung will give the ROM since it isn't an issue that is preventing you from doing out of the box functionality.
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isnt the provxml method using diagnostic tools the reason for this no longer working, what i mean by that is if you were to install the older version of the diag tool would that not restore functionality, or has the lock down of that gone much deeper? if you are able to install XAPs then find an older OEM update version pre KK2/LE2, open it up and rip out the diagnostic tool XAP, remove any previous installed version then send over the XAP....
just a thought, it might not work, but essentially i think thats what happens unless of course there are other dlls or drivers that the tool needs that have also been updated....
course it would be great to find someone willing and able to help crack the bootloader
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isnt the provxml method using diagnostic tools the reason for this no longer working, what i mean by that is if you were to install the older version of the diag tool would that not restore functionality, or has the lock down of that gone much deeper? if you are able to install XAPs then find an older OEM update version pre KK2/LE2, open it up and rip out the diagnostic tool XAP, remove any previous installed version then send over the XAP....
just a thought, it might not work, but essentially i think thats what happens unless of course there are other dlls or drivers that the tool needs that have also been updated....
course it would be great to find someone willing and able to help crack the bootloader
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Yeah I gave the suggestion to him in the Cab Sender thread to try and look on here for the Diag v 0109 or even 0210. That's the version that I have. Actually in the Cab Sender thread, I posted the cab file to the samsung firmware for Mango that should have that diagnostics version in the cab. You may be able to push that to your device
The old version was still installed after updating, it didn't work.
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The old version was still installed after updating, it didn't work.
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Ok, that means that the firmware also pushed out new Dlls to prevent proxvml. You are stuck unfortunately :-\
Ive been asking around and doing some research and as of today your stuck, sorry!
I did some poking around on DFTs website as well and there is absolutely ZERO work being done on it, mostly because it seems like the focus S is an AT&T only phone, there just isnt a pressing needed to do anything, plus most folk dont have a focus S to work with.
i dont know what it would take to get some help or even guidance on getting the bootloader replaced but at the moment, until another method is found, thats all there is.
Tho This might be interesting to look in to but DONT DO IT!
did i read somewhere else you dont have a preupdated backup or was it that the backup didnt work?
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Ok, that means that the firmware also pushed out new Dlls to prevent proxvml. You are stuck unfortunately :-\
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There is a lot of changes in those updates, if we could insert our own certificate to allow us to build our own signed cabs we could probably work it out, but alas we can only add a cert in to a custom ROM then flash it...
Yes, unfortunately I bought the phone from a guy here on XDA in May, never had to update it (had been cab updated to 8107 before I got it), never made a backup before installing tango (it's a small update, what could it possibly **** up, right?) Anyway the Focus S was announced yesterday as being available online at some Australian website so maybe there will be ROMs available in the future. I still haven't heard back from internal Samsung support, but have also asked the user I purchased the phone from if he has any backups, which I would restore from and immediately reset again to ensure his privacy.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind losing interop-unlock until 7.8 comes around, or WP8 (whichever I can afford first), but MMS also can't be configured using the Wireless Manager anymore, and that's an absolutely vital feature for me. Although, the WM has been known to not work for a lot of people, even pre-tango, but it worked flawlessly OOB for me prior to updating.
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Yes, unfortunately I bought the phone from a guy here on XDA in May, never had to update it (had been cab updated to 8107 before I got it), never made a backup before installing tango (it's a small update, what could it possibly **** up, right?) Anyway the Focus S was announced yesterday as being available online at some Australian website so maybe there will be ROMs available in the future. I still haven't heard back from internal Samsung support, but have also asked the user I purchased the phone from if he has any backups, which I would restore from and immediately reset again to ensure his privacy.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind losing interop-unlock until 7.8 comes around, or WP8 (whichever I can afford first), but MMS also can't be configured using the Wireless Manager anymore, and that's an absolutely vital feature for me. Although, the WM has been known to not work for a lot of people, even pre-tango, but it worked flawlessly OOB for me prior to updating.
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so you updated to the LE2 samsung update, was that via zune? (the last update it does in a row 3rd or 4th perhaps!) or did you cab send that as well?
if you went via zune then it does a backup as well, settings>update>restore
It was all done through the cab sender. There is no backup.
Just wanted to mention here... you know that CAB Sender is perfectly capable of making backups, right? It's one of the core operations the tool is capable of. Don't blame CAB Sender for you pressing S instead of B.
I just don't want people getting the impression that "through the cab sender" implies "there is no backup."
Fully aware, thank you.
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Hello guys!
Got my device on the 8773 and did the samsung update...
Is there anyway to get my interop back ?
I have my backups (one the last 8773 without samsung update and the other is 7740 without anything =] )
Thanks a lot.
Restore your backup, do a little bit more reading on the subject of Tango with Interop Unlock, install the prevention app and mark it as trusted, and have at it. (Specifically, Tango will reset the "prevent relock" registry values, so you have to avoid the phone connecting to Microsoft until you have cleared them again).