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As you all know, nearly two weeks ago the long awaited source code for the Android Gingerbread software was released. This had been a joyous occasion for many of us who had been patiently awaiting its release in hopes that it would lead to working versions of Cyanogenmod and MIUI on our phones, as well as several kernel modifications that were not previously possible. The first few hours of speculation turned into days, which turned into weeks, with the promises of development yet to be fulfilled. As it turns out the fears of some of you had come true, that the few developers that were left lost interest in the Galaxy S 4G for other projects.
While people like Raver have actively stuck with us, there has been a dead silence by those who were previously the most visible on this forum. Whitehawkx who has left us for the Galaxy S2, Dsexton who had left for lack of a separate computer,and Dr Honk who God knows where he is. Krylon ive seen mention working on a kernel once but with little detail. These were some of the best we had and we need to make it overwhelmingly obvious to them that they are wanted and needed here. So I propose that we take the time to let them know that the source code they've wanted and needed is now available and ready to be worked. Youre welcome to write up your own words for a message, though heres something I threw together along with the public contact info for the devs.
Feel free to reach out to any other devs who have not been listed here or from other forums.
Update: Dev's emails were removed by site mods. If you would like to email the people below, you can readily find their email in their user profiles and in their Donate To Me links.
Whitehawkx:
[URL]http://forum.xda-developers.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=3051621[/URL]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sendmessage.php?do=mailmember&u=3051621
Dr Honk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=2785735
Dsexton702:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=3954931
“Hello (dev screen name),
This is (your screen name) from the Galaxy S 4G forums on XDA. If you haven’t heard, the source code for Gingerbread we have been eagerly awaiting was finally released a few weeks ago for our phones. With the source finally released, the limitations our devs had faced before in developing for the SGS4G are now gone, and the path is clear for development of CM7 and MIUI for our phones. I have noticed you have not been around the SGS4G forums recently, but I along with all the other forum members have been hopefully awaiting your return to developing for our phones with the expertise you have shown in all of your many other projects for the SGS4G. As well, the lack of devs on the forum have left many of the still poplar ROM’s unmaintained and not updated to the latest official release. Please come back to developing for the SGS4G for all of us who have spent hours testing and using your ROM’s and show us what your talents can turn these phones into.
Thank you”
I think this is good intended but i fear it wont change anything.
Dont forget soma and airfluip who has been developing for our phones recently.
Krylin said in twitter that he will begin working in a ROM based on GB for our phones. Although he said he will start it today if he doesnt its still good news. I know he can make kernels and roms. Also raver is working. Dsexton said he will get a computer soon and that he needed break. White.... I dont know he droppwd when ki3 leaked. But oh well, lets enjoy or wait.
I've been lurking these forums since this phone came out, with the occasional post here and there.
I have seen people waiting months just for root.
I remember kb5 enhanced was our only ROM for times without end, just to have that developer throw a fit at Mr.Clown for mistakingly closing his thread and leave us hanging.
I remember following Krylon on twitter for what seemed like an eternity, until we finally had cwm on our phones.
Then came the good times.
New roms coming out just about every week, themes, mods, and all the goodies we see on our forums today.
New developers popping up, the formation of teams like aerodonk and acid.
Now we are back in one of these silent periods.
It seems like all development stopped.
But one thing I've learned from these forums is that patience is a virtue.
We go from bad times to good times, to bad again, and so on.
I'm sure there is progress being done right now.
No matter how little, our how long it's taking, it will come.
And a new life cycle will start for our phones.
We just gotta hang tight, get through this metamorphose, and then our phone will come out, greater then before!
Saw on krylons twitter something about doing another rom based off of the gb update so that looks promising.
Also its not just the sgs4g. I own a sensation as well and things have really slowed there too.
I understand everybodys frustration with the length of time that it is taking for us to get new roms. But you have to understand these guys do this in their spare time. And yes, it is true that because of Samsung and t mobile taking forever to release a GB for us made some of the devs loose interest and move to other devices; however, we still have Raver and Krylon on or side, Dsexton will be coming back soon, and hopefully we can get Drhonk and Whitehawx back if not for developing but for at least guidance, tips, and support. I for one have started trying to learn how to do some of this but without a Linux machine it is a bit difficult. But there is no reason some of you can't chip in and try to learn this stuff too. Not to override the few true devs we have, but to assist them.
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Hi Thomas
Please share your knowledge source. I am willing to learn as well, though to tell you the truth, moding and theming couldn't care me less, I'm always into performance and reliability, as well as good RTL and foreign language support (like in CM and MIUI).
Other than that, I'm always on stock theme.
I'm no dev, but I'm considering to become one in the future.
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Hi Thomas
Please share your knowledge source. I am willing to learn as well, though to tell you the truth, moding and theming couldn't care me less, I'm always into performance and reliability, as well as good RTL and foreign language support (like in CM and MIUI).
Other than that, I'm always on stock theme.
I'm no dev, but I'm considering to become one in the future.
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My biggest resources are picking the brain of RaverX3X and google. You can do most everything on a windows machine except mod kernels and make an Odin .tar (for those you need Linux or the ability to run Linux in a vm environment). There are quite a few tutorials out there. You just have to download the right tools to do it, have lots of spare time to devote to it and the gonads to test it.lol... Pm me later with specific questions and I can give you direct links to tutorials that might help you as well.
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i say we make a donation pool. Whoever gives us cm7 or miui first gets the money.
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i say we make a donation pool. Whoever gives us cm7 or miui first gets the money.
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Might not be such a bad idea.
josepresas said:
i say we make a donation pool. Whoever gives us cm7 or miui first gets the money.
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Might want to add the disclaimer it should be officially supported
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i say we make a donation pool. Whoever gives us cm7 or miui first gets the money.
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Interesting idea. The only issue I see is what if we collect money and no one steps up to the plate. Would everyone just get a refund or would the money go towards another cause?
thomas.raines said:
My biggest resources are picking the brain of RaverX3X and google. You can do most everything on a windows machine except mod kernels and make an Odin .tar (for those you need Linux or the ability to run Linux in a vm environment). There are quite a few tutorials out there. You just have to download the right tools to do it, have lots of spare time to devote to it and the gonads to test it.lol... Pm me later with specific questions and I can give you direct links to tutorials that might help you as well.
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You don't necessarily need Linux in order to make an Odin flashable tar file, I personally use Cygwin to make the modem packages.
Yes I am aware that Cygwin is Linux-like command line, but it is by no means Linux in a VM environment.
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Interesting idea. The only issue I see is what if we collect money and no one steps up to the plate. Would everyone just get a refund or would the money go towards another cause?
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I would rather set a bounty for ICS. CM9 would be a better goal in my opinion.
what happened to CM8? did i miss something?
candler33w said:
I would rather set a bounty for ICS. CM9 would be a better goal in my opinion.
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Well yea, a fund to get us any of the major ROMs cm9 miui or ICS etc..
And idk what we would do with the money if no one delivers.. ideas?
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I remember when i had the galaxy vibrant early this year i was so into the device cause they were a lots of roms here to choose from and thats one of my concerns now for this device now. If you go to the vibrant section there are a lots of 2.2 biulds 2.2.1, 2.3 ,2.3.3 etc etc etc. And they are all different. Including from stock to MIUI and htc Sence. As well as gingerbread and honeycomb. So my question is why the devs didnt work on some builds like those for this device. From my end i really dont care about what number of the OS is as long the build is stable, fast, bloatware free, custom ringtones, wallpapers, and other great thing that i did manage to see on my old vibrant that i no longer own :/
Yesterday my older sister got the galaxy s 2 for tmobile and its so awsome. I have envy in me now jajajajaja xD
josepresas said:
Well yea, a fund to get us any of the major ROMs cm9 miui or ICS etc..
And idk what we would do with the money if no one delivers.. ideas?
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I would leave it as a standing bounty like they did with the HP Touchpad. Someone will jump on it if its large enough.
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jager555 said:
what happened to CM8? did i miss something?
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CM8 was reserved for Honeycomb so ICS will be CM9
crackpot said:
You don't necessarily need Linux in order to make an Odin flashable tar file, I personally use Cygwin to make the modem packages.
Yes I am aware that Cygwin is Linux-like command line, but it is by no means Linux in a VM environment.
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This is true. Which is what I am learning to use now, but I forgot to add that part... Thanks for catching my error. From my understanding, you can use it to modify a kernel as well, but i'm not having very good luck with it yet.
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thomas.raines said:
This is true. Which is what I am learning to use now, but I forgot to add that part... Thanks for catching my error. From my understanding, you can use it to modify a kernel as well, but i'm not having very good luck with it yet.
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This is mere conjecture on my part, but I would assume that you can modify the kernel in Windows as long as your text editor supports Unix-type line endings (Notepad++ works nicely), and then compile it using presumably gcc in Cygwin. Again, this is merely speculation on my part, having only built a Linux kernel on Linux, for my desktop.
This maybe premature but I figured I would throw it out there; is there any devs who could tell me about the skill level or difficulty level of making new roms or tweaking existing roms? I'm learning about java programming and using j creator and eclipse. I'm still new but I'm a fast learner. I want to help out the charge community by keeping an active dev. I'm still a time away from that but want more insight..... Please no sarcastic remarks.... Thanks.
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I'm attempting to start teaching myself this as well. The advice I've gotten is to start ofs theming. That way you can break open the apks and see what's inside, get a feel for how to change things and reassemble packages without doing any major work, and then expand from there. I'm in the process of changing jobs and cities, but I'm going to start playing around with things after I get settled.
a lot depends on what you want to do
developing for oem skin (touchwiz roms in this case) is a lot different than aosp
aosp requires a lot of java knowledge, and depending on the phone can be somewhat easy (nexus phones source will boot without changes) to nearly impossible (this phone)
touchwiz roms require some basic tools (7zip, smali/backsmali, apktool, rom kitchens or terminal knowledge) as well as some smali knowledge and countless hours of just figuring stuff out
many of us got our start as themers, from which you (over time) gain knowledge on rom layouts, where things are located, xml/smali editing, making update.zips and updater-scripts, and the like
you dont *need* to necessarily use linux to work on tw roms, but it certainly helps imo...although most of the tools out there work in windows too
my suggestion?: download a stock rom and download a heavily modded one of the same build (infiniti/gummycharged) and compare them with kdiff and decompile the apks to get an idea of what was changed
its a good starting point
Sweet, thanks for the advice. I am learning java pretty quick but realistically it would probably be a year before I'm proficient. I also just added computer programming as a minor. I would like another phone, the nexus obviously, but I need to chill on buying phones. I love aosp- if that was possible that would be great, but getting started anywhere is good. Thanks for your help fellas.... I'll keep you all posted here on my progress...
I know that the java language will help-but comparing will help me get acquainted with android. So far I've learned everything from forums so this is a new direction...
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For those following who may want this information. I had a response from imnuts in RootzWiki where I posted this same question. Here's what he said as well. He complemented the answers already given- I also followed up on a list of software to help get started.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11184-new-roms/
Thx for starting up this thread. I'm actually lookin into rom dev as well and this thread has some great starting blocks in it +1 for u dude
So I was just wondering about how to get started developing custom roms for the g2x? Also, what programs would be helpful etc. Thanks!
shazam1203 said:
So I was just wondering about how to get started developing custom roms for the g2x? Also, what programs would be helpful etc. Thanks!
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You'll need ubuntu as an operating system to start off with....
And the cm source..
Hah, I wouldn't mind trying this out myself.
Along with a decent computer and basic terminal skills in linux.
You will also need Eclipse classic
I thought about it, but then I went to this site and decided it was beyond my skill set. Start here.
http://developer.android.com/index.html
Dude that site is for app development for rom development u need to head to this site
http://source.android.com/
Do I need to know a programming language at all? I know a little java but not enough to do anything with, I am very familiar with ubuntu and linux in general. what would I need to get started?
Thanks everyone for all your replys!
vipaman said:
Dude that site is for app development for rom development u need to head to this site
http://source.android.com/
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Sorry. I pasted the wrong link. Was in a hurry. Thanks for posting the correct one.
Ohh...u will need a from kitchen also....and programming language.... ummm Java is imp for starters...
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Is there a certain kitchen that you would recommend or which one do I need for G2x?
Depends on what ur going to build from.......are u going to build from stock or CM sources.....according to that u should download a kitchen but I guess there is a kitchen which is very gud for the g2x...
I was planning on building from stock, and mainly just starting out with themes etc for now.
So u will need the stock source for gingerbread
Themes are a great starting point. Learning which apks control what is how it begins, learning how to manipulate how it looks turns into manipulating how it performs. Smali and Java are languages you need to be able to read at the least for the OS itself, C/C ++ knowledge would be nice for kernels. A basic knowledge of Linux is required if starting from pure source.
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Themes are a great starting point. Learning which apks control what is how it begins, learning how to manipulate how it looks turns into manipulating how it performs. Smali and Java are languages you need to be able to read at the least for the OS itself, C/C ++ knowledge would be nice for kernels. A basic knowledge of Linux is required if starting from pure source.
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+10.......I know for kernels u will need C++ but for just rom java is a must.......He actually explained it better than me..
Hey my name is Scott and ive been using ROMs from this website for awhile now and well lets face it i think im addicted to flashing new ROMs... either that or im determined to turn my infuse into a brick. . Anyways, besides the introduction i wanted to take a moment to personally thank each and every developer on this site and especially the ones in the infuse section for making my phone 20x better then it ever could be. Its amazing what you guys come up with. I really appreciate the hard work and dedication. With all this being said, I would absolutely love to learn how to do this. As far as programming goes, i havent done anything since the days of VB3 . So... Would any of the awesome developers out there want to mentor a newb?? I would be very grateful if someone could teach me what i need to know and maybe one day develop my own ROM.
First off, thank you as well. Without out flashers our work would be virtually worthless
Secondly, before starting development take a day to sit down and really research articles on this site. The more knowledge you have before hand will put you a head of the game. Once you have basic knowledge, pick a base rom. One that you feel would be best for what you want to build. Download that rom. Download nunhuggers apktool, the necessary Java development tools. Decompile the rom and take a while to look through it, and kind of get an understanding of how things work within the rom. That would be the best starting point.
Also when developing your own rom, before you release it take time to make sure everything is in working order, releasing a half broken rom is no good, releasing a solid, stable rom is aces. I'd you need anything I will gladly answer any questions I can, and help in anyway I can. Most senior devs would be glad to help as well, very good community we have here.
-Marcus
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MaliciousIntent69 said:
First off, thank you as well. Without out flashers our work would be virtually worthless
Secondly, before starting development take a day to sit down and really research articles on this site. The more knowledge you have before hand will put you a head of the game. Once you have basic knowledge, pick a base rom. One that you feel would be best for what you want to build. Download that rom. Download nunhuggers apktool, the necessary Java development tools. Decompile the rom and take a while to look through it, and kind of get an understanding of how things work within the rom. That would be the best starting point.
Also when developing your own rom, before you release it take time to make sure everything is in working order, releasing a half broken rom is no good, releasing a solid, stable rom is aces. I'd you need anything I will gladly answer any questions I can, and help in anyway I can. Most senior devs would be glad to help as well, very good community we have here.
-Marcus
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Thank you for your response and advice. I have briefly gone over guides and documents ive found just by doing a general google search and of course from this site also. It looks kind of complex, but im sure your suggestion of taking a day and sitting down to decompile it and take a good look would really put things into perspective.
When i do a search for nunhuggers apktool, it just comes up with a tutorial video? Is this what your referring to or is there an actual download that im missing?
Thanks for the offer to help if i need it... I have a feeling ill definitely be taking you up on that. I have noticed just from downloading ROMs and general observations on this forum that everyone seems pretty awesome and are willing to help. Glad to have finally joined and posted.
There should be a download in his topic, not sure if he took it down or not. I'll upload it when I get home and give you the link if you don't have it by then. His video explains how to use it and its very simple to do
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Thank you for your response and advice. I have briefly gone over guides and documents ive found just by doing a general google search and of course from this site also. It looks kind of complex, but im sure your suggestion of taking a day and sitting down to decompile it and take a good look would really put things into perspective.
When i do a search for nunhuggers apktool, it just comes up with a tutorial video? Is this what your referring to or is there an actual download that im missing?
Thanks for the offer to help if i need it... I have a feeling ill definitely be taking you up on that. I have noticed just from downloading ROMs and general observations on this forum that everyone seems pretty awesome and are willing to help. Glad to have finally joined and posted.
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Not to discourage, just giving you some advice, it is allot of work for even little things, I say down and tried to edit the 2.3.6 and add a simple extended power menu, took me 30 mins at least and I didn't even get to test it, wouldn't re compile for some reason, again not to discourage, just trying to give you some insight into what's needed
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There should be a download in his topic, not sure if he took it down or not. I'll upload it when I get home and give you the link if you don't have it by then. His video explains how to use it and its very simple to do
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Awesome, appreciate it. Ill do some searching and see if i can find it in the mean time and let you know if i do so you dont waste your time. I just watched the video and it is very helpful.
deathblade... Thanks for the heads up.. Im looking forward to the time that it takes to put into this.. I am very OCD about things and when i get obsessed with something, i get 100 percent focused on getting it done.
Heres the link forgot I already had it in my old dropbox account so i just uploaded it to my new one
http://db.tt/s3XbUid5
All credit for the file goes to Nun of course.
If you have mac laying around...or if your willing to run linux this is a great tool! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167623 its called android utility and it downloads and installs everything you need to get started...except java gotta download that before you run this tool.
The first time you run it it will go througb the installation process and it will get you just about everything you need...
-dsixda's android rom kitchen (great for decompiling a rom and recompilimg a rom)
-apktool (for decompiling apks...this tool is neccesary for development if you want to add tweaks and mods)
-simple adb interface (has a list of options, choose what you want and it does the code for you)
Has some other stuff too but thats the main stuff
I have it on my linux computer and it runs great!
Ill upload some pics of it as soon As i finish my lunch
And if ou ever have any questions send a dev a pm, they are all very helpful!
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Thanks guys! I appreciate the help. Loving this forum already. Great devs and an awesome community.
Have fun... when your just about to pull your hair out and smash your computer... hit me up...
Heres some screen shots of android utility...and the stuff that comes with it...
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dman3285 said:
Have fun... when your just about to pull your hair out and smash your computer... hit me up...
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Dman, Haha luckily for me i shave my head. If im lucky eventually when i gain enough experience and help ill be able to put something together as nice as zeus or emancipation.... im not going to hold my breath though.. i can only imagine how much work was put into those. When you get a PM with simple annoying questions, dont forget that you offered...
Thanks for the pics, that tool seems very helpful. I only have windows 7, but i should be able to load linux on an emulator and run it from there.
scott.hart.bti said:
Thanks for the pics, that tool seems very helpful. I only have windows 7, but i should be able to load linux on an emulator and run it from there.
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if you download ubuntu, it has an installation option where you install it in and along side windows, and it will ask you which to boot into when turning you computer on, very useful
deathblade said:
if you download ubuntu, it has an installation option where you install it in and along side windows, and it will ask you which to boot into when turning you computer on, very useful
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Even better! Thanks.
scott.hart.bti said:
Even better! Thanks.
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Hello and a quick tip! Before setting up your Linux box make sure that ALL of your hardware/peripherals are supported by the Linux distribution you choose. You can see a list of all your hardware in windows by typing "device manager" in the search box. If you find that all your hardware is supported, have fun .
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theROMinator said:
Hello and a quick tip! Before setting up your Linux box make sure that ALL of your hardware/peripherals are supported by the Linux distribution you choose. You can see a list of all your hardware in windows by typing "device manager" in the search box. If you find that all your hardware is supported, have fun .
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If your gonna do ubuntu (what i have) you can run the it straight from a cd...it will be slow but its a great way to test compatability
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If your gonna do ubuntu (what i have) you can run the it straight from a cd...it will be slow but its a great way to test compatability
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Running Ubuntu as we speak... no way to test it like just doing it. . Let the fun begin.
Okay so before the trolls walk in i just want everyone to know i'm new to the Rom scene therefore i do not know all the rules for when you post one.
Now for the kinda cool part. I got bored today and figured i wanted to make a Rom based off of SupremeSense. But i realized i dont know everything about rom building so i took a stock based rooted rom and threw some supremesence in it but it wont boot now so what im proposing is that i post it, then you guys add your own little tweaks to it leave sceen shots and details and if its awesome(better than what i already have posted) i will replace my link with the one you provide. We will continue this until you guys stop posting. Remember im open to all suggestions.
[edit] evrybody go here if your interested in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26625776#post26625776
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Again, i cannot stress enough, if i'm breaking some type of forum rule please tell me so i can fix it
I like the idea, what exactly is it? Any screen shots or anything to go off?
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I like the idea, what exactly is it? Any screen shots or anything to go off?
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I cant exactly get it to boot up but i do know there are smarter people out there that know what to do. But what i did was download the latest SupremeSence And a rooted stock based rom, then pulled up 7zip copy a bunch of Supreme into the Stock added a little me and flash it. My original goal was to get landscape on Supreme but i reallized i wanted to take it bigger, if you want i can pm it to you and you can upload\try to get it working
Yeah what's the goal here? You can't just take a rooted stock ROM and start adding my apk/odex files to it. Another difference between Stock and SS is resources.
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Yeah what's the goal here? You can't just take a rooted stock ROM and start adding my apk/odex files to it. Another difference between Stock and SS is resources.
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i just basicaly wanted another rom out there for us because we dont have much to choose from. And i wanted to base it off of your rom because it awesome, i figured i have a ton of spare time so might as well try
So where to begin. First off its a nice IDEA. Ill give you that much. Second off there are technical and ethical issues your facing .
The first thing you ever do is ask permission whenever you are using someone elses work,and it doesnt sound as if you asked strapped365 for permission to use it (whether he minds or not is a different story. Should always ask)
Second is like Strapped365 said you cant just open 7zip and start dragging and dropping. Its ameture ,and almost never works,
Please research. I love the fact that someone wants to learn about developing ROMS and such,but you need to make more of an effort to learn the time it takes to do this
Oh and if you have no public work to share please don't post in development section.and if you do get a public link up (if the mods are nice) then post (wip) at the title to show its not really functional . Because this is far from beta ,more like pre pre alpha as it wont even boot.
I dont really believe this belongs in this section but im not a mod
Good luck,back to betting on horses :beer:
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So where to begin. First off its a nice IDEA. Ill give you that much. Second off there are technical and ethical issues your facing .
The first thing you ever do is ask permission whenever you are using someone elses work,and it doesnt sound as if you asked strapped365 for permission to use it (whether he minds or not is a different story. Should always ask)
Second is like Strapped365 said you cant just open 7zip and start dragging and dropping. Its ameture ,and almost never works,
Please research. I love the fact that someone wants to learn about developing ROMS and such,but you need to make more of an effort to learn the time it takes to do this
Oh and if you have no public work to share please don't post in development section.and if you do get a public link up (if the mods are nice) then post (wip) at the title to show its not really functional .
Good luck,back to betting on horses :beer:
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thanks for the reality check
a large part of the mods are done between apks and jar files with editing the smali in classes.dex (if done correctly anyways) so taking one rom and another and trying to mash will almost never work like notsointeresting said above. As for there not being much to choose from, theres actually quite alot for the shift, especially in the last couple months.
newSENSE
Supreme Sense
CM-7
unofficial CM-9 builds
Cyclonic
Stock Rooted
MIUI
and many more.
theres quite a few devs busting ass and pumping out some quality work. your idea is nice and also like notso said, you def need to ask permission from other devs before trying to tear apart or manipulate a rom theyve worked hard on. there are some guides floating around though that are great assistance in making your own roms. sparksco, dodgejcr, one_love_420, and a few others i cant remember offhand have put up guides to help build kernels and compile roms. do a little reading and practicing and in no time youll be building your own custom rom too.
this by all means isnt an attack, just a confirmation of whats been posted already and some of my own opinions. good luck learning and building.
i cant seem to find a way to close this thread. Please help and i have no problem if you guys want to use my ideas. Finally, can somebody point me to a rom a kernle building thread because the ones i keep finding are phone specific
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Hubertkilgore said:
i cant seem to find a way to close this thread. Please help and i have no problem if you guys want to use my ideas. Finally, can somebody point me to a rom a kernle building thread because the ones i keep finding are phone specific
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http://forum.sdx-developers.com/index.php?topic=18828.0
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Hubertkilgore said:
i cant seem to find a way to close this thread. Please help and i have no problem if you guys want to use my ideas. Finally, can somebody point me to a rom a kernle building thread because the ones i keep finding are phone specific
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heres the kernel guide by dodgejcr:
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/?topic=18828.msg235663#msg235663
and heres sparksco's rom compiling guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084697
And to close a thread a mod has to do that. Go on the xda site and click report thread at the top right and just type in close post or move it or what not
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Before this gets locked, I would like to say kudos to OP. Great idea, and hope you find your way in the community. I tried (not hard) but did try to understand developing, and quickly gave up. This community is full of smart people that make it hard for us dumber ones to really be helpful, my way of helping is to hit thanks buttons and stay in the shadows. Good luck man
question for op did you change the updater script or anything what happends when it attempts to boot ? black screen wont even flash etc..
Bfitz26 said:
question for op did you change the updater script or anything what happends when it attempts to boot ? black screen wont even flash etc..
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it wont boot past my flashscreen
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We won't even begin to identify the problem without knowing exactly what apks you copied and pasted, but due to cluttering and the bumping of this thread I'd say not to continue to help in THIS particular thread until it gets moved or you post another thread in general to help out.
Nothing against the OP at all.. I'm sure you can understand where I'm coming from. whenever a reply is posted in here it puts actual development threads further down :beer:
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Everybody go look at this thread in general