Hey my name is Scott and ive been using ROMs from this website for awhile now and well lets face it i think im addicted to flashing new ROMs... either that or im determined to turn my infuse into a brick. . Anyways, besides the introduction i wanted to take a moment to personally thank each and every developer on this site and especially the ones in the infuse section for making my phone 20x better then it ever could be. Its amazing what you guys come up with. I really appreciate the hard work and dedication. With all this being said, I would absolutely love to learn how to do this. As far as programming goes, i havent done anything since the days of VB3 . So... Would any of the awesome developers out there want to mentor a newb?? I would be very grateful if someone could teach me what i need to know and maybe one day develop my own ROM.
First off, thank you as well. Without out flashers our work would be virtually worthless
Secondly, before starting development take a day to sit down and really research articles on this site. The more knowledge you have before hand will put you a head of the game. Once you have basic knowledge, pick a base rom. One that you feel would be best for what you want to build. Download that rom. Download nunhuggers apktool, the necessary Java development tools. Decompile the rom and take a while to look through it, and kind of get an understanding of how things work within the rom. That would be the best starting point.
Also when developing your own rom, before you release it take time to make sure everything is in working order, releasing a half broken rom is no good, releasing a solid, stable rom is aces. I'd you need anything I will gladly answer any questions I can, and help in anyway I can. Most senior devs would be glad to help as well, very good community we have here.
-Marcus
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First off, thank you as well. Without out flashers our work would be virtually worthless
Secondly, before starting development take a day to sit down and really research articles on this site. The more knowledge you have before hand will put you a head of the game. Once you have basic knowledge, pick a base rom. One that you feel would be best for what you want to build. Download that rom. Download nunhuggers apktool, the necessary Java development tools. Decompile the rom and take a while to look through it, and kind of get an understanding of how things work within the rom. That would be the best starting point.
Also when developing your own rom, before you release it take time to make sure everything is in working order, releasing a half broken rom is no good, releasing a solid, stable rom is aces. I'd you need anything I will gladly answer any questions I can, and help in anyway I can. Most senior devs would be glad to help as well, very good community we have here.
-Marcus
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Thank you for your response and advice. I have briefly gone over guides and documents ive found just by doing a general google search and of course from this site also. It looks kind of complex, but im sure your suggestion of taking a day and sitting down to decompile it and take a good look would really put things into perspective.
When i do a search for nunhuggers apktool, it just comes up with a tutorial video? Is this what your referring to or is there an actual download that im missing?
Thanks for the offer to help if i need it... I have a feeling ill definitely be taking you up on that. I have noticed just from downloading ROMs and general observations on this forum that everyone seems pretty awesome and are willing to help. Glad to have finally joined and posted.
There should be a download in his topic, not sure if he took it down or not. I'll upload it when I get home and give you the link if you don't have it by then. His video explains how to use it and its very simple to do
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Thank you for your response and advice. I have briefly gone over guides and documents ive found just by doing a general google search and of course from this site also. It looks kind of complex, but im sure your suggestion of taking a day and sitting down to decompile it and take a good look would really put things into perspective.
When i do a search for nunhuggers apktool, it just comes up with a tutorial video? Is this what your referring to or is there an actual download that im missing?
Thanks for the offer to help if i need it... I have a feeling ill definitely be taking you up on that. I have noticed just from downloading ROMs and general observations on this forum that everyone seems pretty awesome and are willing to help. Glad to have finally joined and posted.
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Not to discourage, just giving you some advice, it is allot of work for even little things, I say down and tried to edit the 2.3.6 and add a simple extended power menu, took me 30 mins at least and I didn't even get to test it, wouldn't re compile for some reason, again not to discourage, just trying to give you some insight into what's needed
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There should be a download in his topic, not sure if he took it down or not. I'll upload it when I get home and give you the link if you don't have it by then. His video explains how to use it and its very simple to do
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Awesome, appreciate it. Ill do some searching and see if i can find it in the mean time and let you know if i do so you dont waste your time. I just watched the video and it is very helpful.
deathblade... Thanks for the heads up.. Im looking forward to the time that it takes to put into this.. I am very OCD about things and when i get obsessed with something, i get 100 percent focused on getting it done.
Heres the link forgot I already had it in my old dropbox account so i just uploaded it to my new one
http://db.tt/s3XbUid5
All credit for the file goes to Nun of course.
If you have mac laying around...or if your willing to run linux this is a great tool! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167623 its called android utility and it downloads and installs everything you need to get started...except java gotta download that before you run this tool.
The first time you run it it will go througb the installation process and it will get you just about everything you need...
-dsixda's android rom kitchen (great for decompiling a rom and recompilimg a rom)
-apktool (for decompiling apks...this tool is neccesary for development if you want to add tweaks and mods)
-simple adb interface (has a list of options, choose what you want and it does the code for you)
Has some other stuff too but thats the main stuff
I have it on my linux computer and it runs great!
Ill upload some pics of it as soon As i finish my lunch
And if ou ever have any questions send a dev a pm, they are all very helpful!
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Thanks guys! I appreciate the help. Loving this forum already. Great devs and an awesome community.
Have fun... when your just about to pull your hair out and smash your computer... hit me up...
Heres some screen shots of android utility...and the stuff that comes with it...
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Have fun... when your just about to pull your hair out and smash your computer... hit me up...
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Dman, Haha luckily for me i shave my head. If im lucky eventually when i gain enough experience and help ill be able to put something together as nice as zeus or emancipation.... im not going to hold my breath though.. i can only imagine how much work was put into those. When you get a PM with simple annoying questions, dont forget that you offered...
Thanks for the pics, that tool seems very helpful. I only have windows 7, but i should be able to load linux on an emulator and run it from there.
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Thanks for the pics, that tool seems very helpful. I only have windows 7, but i should be able to load linux on an emulator and run it from there.
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if you download ubuntu, it has an installation option where you install it in and along side windows, and it will ask you which to boot into when turning you computer on, very useful
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if you download ubuntu, it has an installation option where you install it in and along side windows, and it will ask you which to boot into when turning you computer on, very useful
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Even better! Thanks.
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Even better! Thanks.
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Hello and a quick tip! Before setting up your Linux box make sure that ALL of your hardware/peripherals are supported by the Linux distribution you choose. You can see a list of all your hardware in windows by typing "device manager" in the search box. If you find that all your hardware is supported, have fun .
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Hello and a quick tip! Before setting up your Linux box make sure that ALL of your hardware/peripherals are supported by the Linux distribution you choose. You can see a list of all your hardware in windows by typing "device manager" in the search box. If you find that all your hardware is supported, have fun .
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If your gonna do ubuntu (what i have) you can run the it straight from a cd...it will be slow but its a great way to test compatability
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If your gonna do ubuntu (what i have) you can run the it straight from a cd...it will be slow but its a great way to test compatability
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Running Ubuntu as we speak... no way to test it like just doing it. . Let the fun begin.
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Hey I had this thread going in the Hero forums but I recently got my Evo and wanted to contribute something for now until I'm up to speed on cooking roms and themeing for the Evo.
This is a collection of tools and Setup files that I have collected throughout my time here on XDA. Its mainly meant for new developers that are looking to start making their own themes, cooking their own roms, or even making their own apps to put out onto the market.
I in no shape or form stole anyones apps, tools, or files in this zip file. Everything in here is 100 % FREE and given out on a regular basis. I simply put everything together in one place so you dont have to go searching all over the internet or just on XDA to find the programs you need.
I put together two zip files. One for windows 32 bit and One for windows 64 bit. I can put together zips for macs and linux if requested
Please feel free to recommend tools that you use with the links to where they can be found and I will happily update the everything android files as need to include them.
These files are a little under 500 mb each and recommended to download onto your computer and not ur phone
Everything Android Windows 64 Bit
Everything Android Windows 32 Bit
Welcome
Thanks for the tools.
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Welcome
Thanks for the tools.
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thanks I was out for a bit in the Hero section. I got cancer (Stupid Cancer LOL) but Im better now and looking to start dev'ing again
welcome aboard, I'm glad to see you over here!
Welcome, looking forward to see all your contribution on this device (Htc Evo).
I'm trying to start learning more about ROM and THEMES development, anything I can help with let me know and I'm down to test/donate & Share ideas/help with updates and more just hit me up.
Gtalk or Gmail :
[email protected]
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thanks I was out for a bit in the Hero section. I got cancer (Stupid Cancer LOL) but Im better now and looking to start dev'ing again
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Dam sad to here it. Glad that you feel better.
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Welcome papa
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chubbzlou said:
Dam sad to here it. Glad that you feel better.
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Yeah testicular...wasn't fun. But atleast during chemo I was able to push out 8 apps onto the market. Pretty much due to what I learned from the hero dev section.
Glad to here your ok. I'd like to request a "Mac–pack" if you could please. I'm really interested in App development. With 4 kids and being a network engineer (80 hour weeks) this could really save me some time. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Glad to here your ok. I'd like to request a "Mac–pack" if you could please. I'm really interested in App development. With 4 kids and being a network engineer (80 hour weeks) this could really save me some time. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Ill try to throw one together tomorrow. I'm away from my computer right now
Thanks alot
cancer suxx glad your better
try as I might and try I did, megaupload fails every time on w764bit, over a dozen attempts and the most I got before megaupload failed was 112mb. 20mb comcast connection btw
can you post a different download link?
Glad to hear you kicked that cancer to the curb and Welcome to the Evo World. Updated Linux tools would be nice when you have time. I have something behnaam gave me last year which is a little dated.
Welcome back Smurf. It's great to hear you kicked cancer in the a$$. You and Regaw were a big help to me in the hero section (Good times). I can't wait to see what you come up with when you start back up. Maybe something in blue
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Papa Smurf151 said:
Hey I had this thread going in the Hero forums but I recently got my Evo and wanted to contribute something for now until I'm up to speed on cooking roms and themeing for the Evo.
This is a collection of tools and Setup files that I have collected throughout my time here on XDA. Its mainly meant for new developers that are looking to start making their own themes, cooking their own roms, or even making their own apps to put out onto the market.
I in no shape or form stole anyones apps, tools, or files in this zip file. Everything in here is 100 % FREE and given out on a regular basis. I simply put everything together in one place so you dont have to go searching all over the internet or just on XDA to find the programs you need.
Also inside this zip is 3 txt files.
The first is a simple guide to whats inside the zip. It list the name of the program, a link to the website where i found it and for the programs from XDA a link to the thread where i found the program so you can give props to the developer and learn how to use it.
The second txt is a list of ADB codes that I have found myself using over and over again and its easier to copy and paste than it is to keep typing over and over again.
The last txt file is an explanation on how to sign an app with private keys so that you can load it onto the market if interested.
I put together two zip files. One for windows 32 bit and One for windows 64 bit. I can put together zips for macs and linux if requested
Please feel free to recommend tools that you use with the links to where they can be found and I will happily update the everything android files as need to include them.
These files are a little under 500 mb each and recommended to download onto your computer and not ur phone.
Windows 64 bit
Windows 32 bit
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Welcome to the EVO, Chad
welcome cbarlan aka papasmurf
glad to hear you kicked that damn cancer. im sure it was not fun btw what apps did you knock out when you were getting chemo? just curious...
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glad to hear you kicked that damn cancer. im sure it was not fun btw what apps did you knock out when you were getting chemo? just curious...
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Pretty much all the same apps just different colors. Search the market for Black Facebook.
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Thanks man. Glad to be here and even happier to be rid of my hero.
Hey man great story congrats. Could you put together a linux version for those that use Ubuntu?
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Thanks man. Glad to be here and even happier to be rid of my hero.
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Welcome to Evo bro....loved your work when I had my hero...can't wait to see what you cook up here
If you haven't noticed me and lmartin92 (AWESOME GUY) are the ONLY SHOWCASE users that has added anything to the community.. Hopefully that is about to change soon, we have a couple new guys that really sound promising, but I'm sure there's many of you that could contribute some Valuable help....
I don't think it's right depending on the Mesmerize Devs and Fascinate Devs do everything for us so I'm trying to learn what I can... And only a few months ago I'd never touched an Android device. Until about 3 weeks ago I'd never touched linux. All this is VERY new to me, but if you're willing to learn and have any knowledge with a computer, which if you've flashed anything you more than likely do, and can simply FOLLOW instructions.. Then there's plenty of people including myself that are willing to teach you what they know...
Bdemartino, has written an awesome theming guide Found HERE... He has the tools listed that you need just make sure to follow his instructions word for word... For showcase users (make sure to use the latest Showcase Pick n pack to pull the framework-res and twframework-res for your themes) Theming is trial and error.. You're more than likely not going to get it right the first try... I have some additional files with the xml edits.. Just PM me if you're interested
Phidelt82 has written up a guide for setting up a DEV box located HERE.. This may be advanced for some, but you can always walk through it and see Linux and play around with some stuff and try to learn some commands..
I'm just learning mods, but again I can teach you what I've learned...
And for all the Showcase users that don't think they can develop or don't have time, then the least you could do to support this forum is offer the Newer guys courteous answers when they ask.. I know that the same questions can get old, but let's not forget that we were all new at one point.. Some people may have no forum experience what so ever... So let's help them out, and if you don't want to do that then simply don't respond and let someone else answer them...
The last thing we want to do is scare away new Users from XDA, you never know what they may bring to the table down the road!!!!
And for the new people...
Please Read the entire posts first before doing anything, if you run into a problem try reading through the thread to see if anyone else has the same issue..
If you can't find your answer then the best place to get an answer is the irc
http://webchat.freenode.net/ channel= #samsung-mesmerize
and you can always post a question in the threads as well....
You should make some QR code stickers that link here and stick them all over your cellular south store.
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sageDieu said:
You should make some QR code stickers that link here and stick them all over your cellular south store.
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Lol
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When I'm at work I'm just going to start installing the xda app on every new Showcase and favoriting this thread. I already install the app for all my friends.
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When I'm at work I'm just going to start installing the xda app on every new Showcase and favoriting this thread. I already install the app for all my friends.
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COOL!!! lol, i like your style
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You should make some QR code stickers that link here and stick them all over your cellular south store.
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GOOD IDEA!!!! Check out my sig!!! All showcase users should spread this QR code EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!
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GOOD IDEA!!!! Check out my sig!!! All showcase users should spread this QR code EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!
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a winner is me
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Great info
Great info, this is just what a lot of people need to read first. I think this is an awesome intro.
By the way
Hope people know that when doing voodoo lagfix, and flashing roms, disable lagfix first, then flash
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Hope people know that when doing voodoo lagfix, and flashing roms, disable lagfix first, then flash
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ha, they should it's been said enough times... Added your name to the first post lmartin
I'm going to try and get my home PC set up as my DEV box this weekend. Once that happens I will start doing some toying and hopefully can help you guys get some Showcase stuff going pretty quick.
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I'm going to try and get my home PC set up as my DEV box this weekend. Once that happens I will start doing some toying and hopefully can help you guys get some Showcase stuff going pretty quick.
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sounds good...
Welcome Aboard
Just bought a laptop so hopefully now i can start helping
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I've had my Showcase since Dec and the only thing I've done so far is to root it. Hope that I can be of some help as well.
Now to just get this darned thing hacked...
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Now to just get this darned thing hacked...
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Ew. First step: Drop the 1993 clichés.
I am a little new to this but succesfuly rooted my last showcase and had 2.2.1 with pick n pack .3 and voodoo kernal and it worked great other than I couldn't silence phone calls with the volume rocker. Anyone else have this issue? Then I flashed superfrankenclean Tom with comavault kernal and I had a lot of verizon stuff on it like location services powered by vzw and also 3g mobile hotspot vzw wasn't worried to much about it till this morning my service dropped to nothing then I dialed *228 which I know now was big no no and then my phone went into roaming and couldn't get any service at all so took it to csouth got a new one which probably will be charged for and then tried to do step by step instructions for froyo and links were gone and instructions so I tried to root with z4 which I did then couldn't get red recovery screen to work when I flashed update.zip kept getting no signature or something so anyway I was able to redo my steps on the froyo build from Odin as I had somehow remembered and now I got everything going on pnp.3 and using voodoo but I really miss voodoo control sound is this still not available for it? I would like to go back to superclean with comavault but would like some advice and feedback from more experienced users I posted this in another thread but figured this was best thread for it and I really wish we had our own thread because I read on this site for days back 2 weeks ago and had massive migraines from trying to figure out what would work for showcase and what wouldn't and some things like rom manager you use the fascinate for something then for other things on this site you use the mesmerize so any help with what is most stable and what to run would be appreciated only thing I can tell not working with pnp.3 now is can't silence phone calls still but I really like the superclean and would go back to it if someone posted about what's happening to cause the radio signal issue
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Sorry for the lengthy post guys just trying to clear lots of things up I encountered and figured other newbies may benefit from it too.
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The best advice I can give you is learn to listen (read) and follow the discussions and advice these forums provide. Only flash ROMs, kernels, etc. that are either designed for the Showcase or are known to be compatible with it. Period. If you don't pay attention, and just go off flashing this and that and whatever, you're asking for trouble. There's no need to get a headache over all the stuff that's out there that isn't for the Showcase. Only concern yourself with what is either for, or is compatible with, the Showcase. Everything else isn't relevant.
And if after actually reading the original post and the thread and you still aren't sure if its a-ok for the Showcase, just ask. But read first. Don't be that guy who asks, when the original post clearly states it is or isn't Showcase compatible in the second or third sentence. Know what I mean?
As for the superclean ROM. I'm running it and the comavolt kernel and have had absolutely zero issues.
I've had two other people tell me they lost their signal all together with superclean to and they tried to go back to pnp and they still had no signal. Only way they got it back was to use odin. Guess ill try it out again as I really liked it. Under settings and mobile network which one of the boxes do you have checked? Home automatic a or b?
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Yeah, I suppose that was a little cheezy.
Anyone give me tips for ROM building?
O yeah sure I'll jump right on it. Let me take time out of my life to do this for you. I'll abandon my family and tell them some stranger wants some **** done to his phone because he asked. Hell ill take my time and use up the entire weekend doing this for you.
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Just a question...jeez. Chill out.
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O yeah sure I'll jump right on it. Let me take time out of my life to do this for you. I'll abandon my family and tell them some stranger wants some **** done to his phone because he asked. Hell ill take my time and use up the entire weekend doing this for you.
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LOL, the whole point of this forum is to learn how to do things not have someone just make things for you.
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Just a question...jeez. Chill out.
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I don't have time to chill out. I've kicked everyone out of my house, locked the doors, shut the house phone off and started working on this for you. My computer is on fire because I'm working so fast!!!
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let me tell you a little bit about myself. Three years ago I was you. I found XDA and started learning about my Android device at the time which was the Android Dev phone one(G1).
I knew absolutely nothing of java and xml and apks and rooting etc. Now after lurking in the forums for a while I decided I wanted to contribute back. I started pulling other peoples work apart and actually learning how stuff worked. I utilized the hell out of google and still do. If you want a custom ROM tailored to your own specs,now is as good a time as any to dig in. Don't be afraid to ask developers questions, the majority of them are super cool and can point you in the right direction. Asking someone to build you a custom ROM here on XDA probably won't go over well.
Good luck to you.
Thanks and enjoy the ride!
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I'm running Lithium right now. It's great. Really great. I enjoy it, but I'm always wanting to try something new and different launchers have lost their appeal.
I have my phone themed towards ICS and it's great. I love it.
But I want straight AOSP.
I know there are ports of several apps from ICS/Gingerbread. The ones I'm aware of are:
AOSP 3D Gallery (Gingerbread)
Gingerbread Keyboard (GB)
Car Dock (GB)
ICS Camera (ICS)
ICS Gallery (ICS)
ICS Keyboard (ICS)
and a few others I can't think of off the top of my head.
My question is, how can I compile the pure AOSP apps/ui into a ROM? I'm aware of the thread, but I'm really short on time and don't have the patience for it.
Could anyone do this for me? EDIT: I mean make it a heck of a lot simpler, point me in the right direction of someone who's already on to this, etc.
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Just as future reference... never ask anyone to do something for you.. especially something as complicated as building a ROM. All of the devs do this in their spare time. As lkrasner said the point of this forum is to learn how to do things, not ask others to do it for you.
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let me tell you a little bit about myself. Three years ago I was you. I found XDA and started learning about my Android device at the time which was the Android Dev phone one(G1).
I knew absolutely nothing of java and xml and apks and rooting etc. Now after lurking in the forums for a while I decided I wanted to contribute back. I started pulling other peoples work apart and actually learning how stuff worked. I utilized the hell out of google and still do. If you want a custom ROM tailored to your own specs,now is as good a time as any to dig in. Don't be afraid to ask developers questions, the majority of them are super cool and can point you in the right direction. Asking someone to build you a custom ROM here on XDA probably won't go over well.
Good luck to you.
Thanks and enjoy the ride!
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Couldn't say it better myself. If you want help doing this, by all means ask a few questions, or suggest your ideas get added to a current rom. we all do this stuff in our free time because we enjoy it. This forum is meant for learning how to do stuff. None of us are trying to be mean here, we just want to help you out, so I suggest you open up a new tab, go to the ubuntu download site and while that downloads, look up some stuff about what you need to do. get into linux and get working. Chances are you will want to throw your computer out the window a few tiles during the process, but in the end you will be happy that you can have your own thread in the dev section with the prefix [ROM]
Okay...I wanna apologize. I was being lazy.
I know you guys put in a lot of hard work and time. I can see it. I use it everyday. haha
It IS really daunting.
As far as Ubuntu...that's creepy that you suggested it, because the other tab in my chrome browser was the Ubuntu download page.
I'll learn this stuff. Sorry guys. :/
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Okay...I wanna apologize. I was being lazy.
I know you guys put in a lot of hard work and time. I can see it. I use it everyday. haha
It IS really daunting.
As far as Ubuntu...that's creepy that you suggested it, because the other tab in my chrome browser was the Ubuntu download page.
I'll learn this stuff. Sorry guys. :/
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Nice! Glad to see you are getting into this. Get the 32 bit ubuntu for compatibility reasons. Give it a hard drive partition of 20 GB or so if you have enough room. I give 2 GB for swap space. you can do less if you have a ton of ram, or more if you only have a gig or something. linux is essential for rom building. do a search for rom kitchen and also apktool they are both essential to building roms. there is a post in the A2 dev section with a few other things and links to those if you want to check it out. From there open up your favorite custom rom with rom kitchen and build off of that if you want to make your life easier. Make sure you read what it says to do for building a simple rom for the bionic under that post I told you about. (I am to lazy to go find the link, but I am sure you can find it.) Good luck, and as always post questions here if you need help, and always remember that google is your best friend with this kind of thing!
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LOL, you changed the whole OP
Well this sucks he is willing to learn. I just got done with his rom that he requested. I'll just delete it off of my computer.
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lkrasner said:
Nice! Glad to see you are getting into this. Get the 32 bit ubuntu for compatibility reasons. Give it a hard drive partition of 20 GB or so if you have enough room. I give 2 GB for swap space. you can do less if you have a ton of ram, or more if you only have a gig or something. linux is essential for rom building. do a search for rom kitchen and also apktool they are both essential to building roms. there is a post in the A2 dev section with a few other things and links to those if you want to check it out. From there open up your favorite custom rom with rom kitchen and build off of that if you want to make your life easier. Make sure you read what it says to do for building a simple rom for the bionic under that post I told you about. (I am to lazy to go find the link, but I am sure you can find it.) Good luck, and as always post questions here if you need help, and always remember that google is your best friend with this kind of thing!
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LOL, you changed the whole OP
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I have a Compaq Presario with Windows XP. Do I just download the latest Ubuntu from my parents W7 desktop, burn a disk, pop it into the Compaq and then load it? I saw the directions, I just want to make sure they work for xp.
Yeah, I changed it because I felt like a huge tool.
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I have a Compaq Presario with Windows XP. Do I just download the latest Ubuntu from my parents W7 desktop, burn a disk, pop it into the Compaq and then load it? I saw the directions, I just want to make sure they work for xp.
Yeah, I changed it because I felt like a huge tool.
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you will have to partition your hard drive durring the install or before, so make sure you have enough room. make sure you do no accidentally install if over your current is.
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lkrasner said:
you will have to partition your hard drive durring the install or before, so make sure you have enough room. make sure you do no accidentally install if over your current is.
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Can you dumb that down for me?
Chrisruns said:
Can you dumb that down for me?
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just go through the setup and you should be fine. just choose to partition your hard drive or something like that.
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Chrisruns said:
Can you dumb that down for me?
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What you're going to want to do is set up a "dual boot" with Ubuntu and Windows XP, so that every time you turn on your computer it will prompt what to boot into. Here's two good guides one it:
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
He doesn't have to have ubuntu to build a rom does he? I use windows for all the stuff that i do. I just have a few programs that i use that work just fine.
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tmease1 said:
He doesn't have to have ubuntu to build a rom does he? I use windows for all the stuff that i do. I just have a few programs that i use that work just fine.
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There are plenty of developers that use windows. Only problem is, their roms suck.... Ok just kidding! DAGr8 is a perfect example of a windows user that cooks up perfectly badass feature packed ROMs. I personally use Linux mint which is a Ubuntu compatible distribution. I'm old so the new Ubuntu unity interface makes me want to punch my screen with a passion. As far as being able to compile full Android source code such as AOSP etc you will need a Linux environment. Anyway if you do decide to go the Linux route and need a good set of apktools, look no further. Here is a full suite of tools that I put together with a nice friendly terminal frontend I slapped together as well. Us Linux users don't get much love when it comes to up to date apktool applications so i made my own.
Download FJ-ApkTool Here
Read the readme file! This is still for fairly advanced users that are already familiar with apktool
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Chrisruns said:
I have a Compaq Presario with Windows XP. Do I just download the latest Ubuntu from my parents W7 desktop, burn a disk, pop it into the Compaq and then load it? I saw the directions, I just want to make sure they work for xp.
Yeah, I changed it because I felt like a huge tool.
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If I may make a suggestion... why not run it in a Virtual Machine. I use virtualbox and haven't encountered any problems (well except usb passthrough...).
tmease1 said:
I don't have time to chill out. I've kicked everyone out of my house, locked the doors, shut the house phone off and started working on this for you. My computer is on fire because I'm working so fast!!!
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So this would be a good time for me to put in my order for a dream ROM?
Okay so before the trolls walk in i just want everyone to know i'm new to the Rom scene therefore i do not know all the rules for when you post one.
Now for the kinda cool part. I got bored today and figured i wanted to make a Rom based off of SupremeSense. But i realized i dont know everything about rom building so i took a stock based rooted rom and threw some supremesence in it but it wont boot now so what im proposing is that i post it, then you guys add your own little tweaks to it leave sceen shots and details and if its awesome(better than what i already have posted) i will replace my link with the one you provide. We will continue this until you guys stop posting. Remember im open to all suggestions.
[edit] evrybody go here if your interested in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26625776#post26625776
Mods Please Close This THREAD
Again, i cannot stress enough, if i'm breaking some type of forum rule please tell me so i can fix it
I like the idea, what exactly is it? Any screen shots or anything to go off?
southernstyle said:
I like the idea, what exactly is it? Any screen shots or anything to go off?
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I cant exactly get it to boot up but i do know there are smarter people out there that know what to do. But what i did was download the latest SupremeSence And a rooted stock based rom, then pulled up 7zip copy a bunch of Supreme into the Stock added a little me and flash it. My original goal was to get landscape on Supreme but i reallized i wanted to take it bigger, if you want i can pm it to you and you can upload\try to get it working
Yeah what's the goal here? You can't just take a rooted stock ROM and start adding my apk/odex files to it. Another difference between Stock and SS is resources.
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Yeah what's the goal here? You can't just take a rooted stock ROM and start adding my apk/odex files to it. Another difference between Stock and SS is resources.
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i just basicaly wanted another rom out there for us because we dont have much to choose from. And i wanted to base it off of your rom because it awesome, i figured i have a ton of spare time so might as well try
So where to begin. First off its a nice IDEA. Ill give you that much. Second off there are technical and ethical issues your facing .
The first thing you ever do is ask permission whenever you are using someone elses work,and it doesnt sound as if you asked strapped365 for permission to use it (whether he minds or not is a different story. Should always ask)
Second is like Strapped365 said you cant just open 7zip and start dragging and dropping. Its ameture ,and almost never works,
Please research. I love the fact that someone wants to learn about developing ROMS and such,but you need to make more of an effort to learn the time it takes to do this
Oh and if you have no public work to share please don't post in development section.and if you do get a public link up (if the mods are nice) then post (wip) at the title to show its not really functional . Because this is far from beta ,more like pre pre alpha as it wont even boot.
I dont really believe this belongs in this section but im not a mod
Good luck,back to betting on horses :beer:
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So where to begin. First off its a nice IDEA. Ill give you that much. Second off there are technical and ethical issues your facing .
The first thing you ever do is ask permission whenever you are using someone elses work,and it doesnt sound as if you asked strapped365 for permission to use it (whether he minds or not is a different story. Should always ask)
Second is like Strapped365 said you cant just open 7zip and start dragging and dropping. Its ameture ,and almost never works,
Please research. I love the fact that someone wants to learn about developing ROMS and such,but you need to make more of an effort to learn the time it takes to do this
Oh and if you have no public work to share please don't post in development section.and if you do get a public link up (if the mods are nice) then post (wip) at the title to show its not really functional .
Good luck,back to betting on horses :beer:
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thanks for the reality check
a large part of the mods are done between apks and jar files with editing the smali in classes.dex (if done correctly anyways) so taking one rom and another and trying to mash will almost never work like notsointeresting said above. As for there not being much to choose from, theres actually quite alot for the shift, especially in the last couple months.
newSENSE
Supreme Sense
CM-7
unofficial CM-9 builds
Cyclonic
Stock Rooted
MIUI
and many more.
theres quite a few devs busting ass and pumping out some quality work. your idea is nice and also like notso said, you def need to ask permission from other devs before trying to tear apart or manipulate a rom theyve worked hard on. there are some guides floating around though that are great assistance in making your own roms. sparksco, dodgejcr, one_love_420, and a few others i cant remember offhand have put up guides to help build kernels and compile roms. do a little reading and practicing and in no time youll be building your own custom rom too.
this by all means isnt an attack, just a confirmation of whats been posted already and some of my own opinions. good luck learning and building.
i cant seem to find a way to close this thread. Please help and i have no problem if you guys want to use my ideas. Finally, can somebody point me to a rom a kernle building thread because the ones i keep finding are phone specific
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Hubertkilgore said:
i cant seem to find a way to close this thread. Please help and i have no problem if you guys want to use my ideas. Finally, can somebody point me to a rom a kernle building thread because the ones i keep finding are phone specific
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http://forum.sdx-developers.com/index.php?topic=18828.0
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Hubertkilgore said:
i cant seem to find a way to close this thread. Please help and i have no problem if you guys want to use my ideas. Finally, can somebody point me to a rom a kernle building thread because the ones i keep finding are phone specific
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heres the kernel guide by dodgejcr:
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/?topic=18828.msg235663#msg235663
and heres sparksco's rom compiling guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084697
And to close a thread a mod has to do that. Go on the xda site and click report thread at the top right and just type in close post or move it or what not
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Before this gets locked, I would like to say kudos to OP. Great idea, and hope you find your way in the community. I tried (not hard) but did try to understand developing, and quickly gave up. This community is full of smart people that make it hard for us dumber ones to really be helpful, my way of helping is to hit thanks buttons and stay in the shadows. Good luck man
question for op did you change the updater script or anything what happends when it attempts to boot ? black screen wont even flash etc..
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question for op did you change the updater script or anything what happends when it attempts to boot ? black screen wont even flash etc..
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it wont boot past my flashscreen
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We won't even begin to identify the problem without knowing exactly what apks you copied and pasted, but due to cluttering and the bumping of this thread I'd say not to continue to help in THIS particular thread until it gets moved or you post another thread in general to help out.
Nothing against the OP at all.. I'm sure you can understand where I'm coming from. whenever a reply is posted in here it puts actual development threads further down :beer:
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Everybody go look at this thread in general
Remember about a month ago when XDA came out with a book about rooting and flashing ROMs?
I was just wondering if there were any books (or guides maybe) like that, that showed how to make ROMs from scratch, not through all of these annoying kitchens. (Don't really like them, they make me feel like a noob... of course I suppose I am)
So whatever, that's really about it. Thanks guys!
(Oh by the way, I have tried Nero's ROM guide and wasn't a huge fan, also I'm getting another computer solely for the purpose of Ubuntu too if that matters at all.)
...subscribing, also just out of interest I'm trying out Lubuntu, Ubuntu 12.04 server too!
jdgfdqtuzs said:
...subscribing, also just out of interest I'm trying out Lubuntu, Ubuntu 12.04 server too!
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Pretty awesome, never heard of Lubuntu before now. I'd consider it, but any recent tutorials I've looked at use Ubuntu. (Sadly though, they're ridiculous! For example, there was a post about compiling Jelly Bean from source code, and its practically not even in English! I mean I know some coding and all, but despite that, nothing is explained. It just do this like "do this and then do this and this and then we're done. An don't worry, there won't be a troubleshooting page because we know all you out there are experts.)
Whatever, that's my rant. Hopefully a mod will come along some time soon and point us in the right direction. Fingers crossed. :highfive:
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Pretty awesome, never heard of Lubuntu before now. I'd consider it, but any recent tutorials I've looked at use Ubuntu. (Sadly though, they're ridiculous! For example, there was a post about compiling Jelly Bean from source code, and its practically not even in English! I mean I know some coding and all, but despite that, nothing is explained. It just do this like "do this and then do this and this and then we're done. An don't worry, there won't be a troubleshooting page because we know all you out there are experts.)
Whatever, that's my rant. Hopefully a mod will come along some time soon and point us in the right direction. Fingers crossed. :highfive:
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Lubuntu is basically a lighter version of Ubuntu, still runs on the same principles as in version number etc. I understand your frustration with regards to where to find "how to" code, but, my view on tutorials is exactly that where aspects of what you're supposed to be doing are not explained. I think we need to be looking into another category for books, e.g. a coding practice used for android. See what happens
Yeah I suppose you're right. Off to Google/Amazon!
(of course if anyone sees this and would still like to post, by all means, do so!)
EDIT: After a god half an hour of searching, I think I finally found it. The problem is, you're gonna need $50 if you want to snag it.
http://www.amazon.com/Android-Foren...-Security/dp/1597496510/ref=cm_cr_dp_asin_lnk
It is by far the most in detail book I've seen. Just look at the overview of the chapters! It's just like what I was looking for! Woohoo!
Oh man $50. Hard being a broke student.
I would love to learn to. Anyone can tell me where to start? What languages i need to learn (java, linux, c++, etc)?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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If your tomato just so happens to be running a version of android that can support the Kindle app, you can actually get it for about $40 too...
And while I'm not an expert in this field (in fact I really don't know too much) I do know that android uses java and converts it to another language using the dalvik machine. So if you really have no where to start, try learning some java.
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If your tomato just so happens to be running a version of android that can support the Kindle app, you can actually get it for about $40 too...
And while I'm not an expert in this field (in fact I really don't know too much) I do know that android uses java and converts it to another language using the dalvik machine. So if you really have no where to start, try learning some java.
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Offtopic: I think tomatoes dont taste good at all.
I'm a fan, but that's just me. (end of off topic conversation before a mod takes down the thread.)
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I'm a fan, but that's just me. (end of off topic conversation before a mod takes down the thread.)
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(nah I love this convo) I think theyre pretty sour.
Thanks
This is a great guide thanks
Thanks, good guide !
That book looks more related to security than anything else. Anything for development in particular?
If you look at the insides though, it shows how to create the internals, with step by step pieces. Chapter 7 (I think) also has 6 popular methods to obtain root access.
Look at the sneak peek and read the summaries of the chapters. It's definitely going on my Christmas list.
EDIT: As for anything solely for development, I have yet to find anything like that. Hence the reason for posting this thread.
Well, my tomato can support kindle.
Anyway, great thread. Hope someone who can help us reads this and decides to help us further.
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Bump.
We still need support smart dev guys.
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