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Will I be able to use a BT keyboard or gamepad with my
desire?
Read about it at the N1 forum but its seamd to be a bít of a bother
to get it to work.
Is there a HID inbuilt in the Desire or do I need an app?
What I want to be able to do is to write long documents with the keyboard and play games useing an emulator and a gamepad.
I understand that the Freedom Universal 2 should work on the Desire with (not free) an app from the Android market place (search using "bluetooth keyboard"). I have ordered this keyboard as soon I manage to test it I will post results.
Sounds wonderful.
Im looking forward to your review.
Regarding the gamepad:
http://www.mymobilegear.com/showthread.php?p=17452
I'm also interested in whether a bluetooth keyboard will work. I'm getting an Apple Bluetooth mini keyboard soon, which should be nice to use at times when I'm away and need to type some long emails
I have a noname BT keyboard that works out of the box with windows mobile. With Android, the keyboard can be paired with the Desire, but it seems that no key input services are available in the Desire BT implementation. I understand that there is a BT driver floating around that could fix this issue. If I find the solution, I will post an update.
Bad news my Freedom Pro keyboard does not seem to work with the KeyPro app, the only app in the Android market as far as I know that provides drivers for BT keyboards. I have left a message on the mymobilegear.com forum so hopefully the developer will respond sson.
There is another driver/app: blueinput. I cannot get it working but you can try your luck.
Unfortunately the teksoft BT driver does not work either - major problem after a rebooted I found I could not enter my passpword and therefore had to do perform a hard reset! You have been warned (look here: http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=blueinputandroid&tab=download)
what a shame.
thanks for your tries and i would love to use an external bt keyboard too.
i will try to find a cheap / second hand bt keyboard to test around
With Blueinput and KeyPro I think the issue is that they cannot work with the BT on the Desire. I have left messages on the developer forums but no feedback yet. Blueinput, if it worked, would be very promising as it should work with most HID keyboard (iGo, Stowaway etc).
Seams as if the kayboard have to be a SPP kayboard.
Not HID.
Freedom is working on a driver for android for their own Freedom
series keyboards.
Would be great to hear news about this.
Ethania said:
Will I be able to use a BT keyboard or gamepad with my
desire?
Read about it at the N1 forum but its seamd to be a bít of a bother
to get it to work.
Is there a HID inbuilt in the Desire or do I need an app?
What I want to be able to do is to write long documents with the keyboard and play games useing an emulator and a gamepad.
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Save yourself for a wii remote. they (xda) will have it working with Desire soon if not already. Do a search and you'll find more details
agent.m said:
Save yourself for a wii remote. they (xda) will have it working with Desire soon if not already. Do a search and you'll find more details
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I have been looking into this aswell. Im following the Wii-project
closely. But I also think a BT keyboard would be great.
Just got "documents to go" and a keyboard would make writing
much smoother.
Freedom Universal 2 looks relly good, since the Freedom Pro is a bit too
large.
Apparently these sorts of bluetooth apps don't work with Sense-enabled phones.
Not sure if flashing a non-Sense rom would fix it, but then the CM Rom doesn't have working bluetooth anyway.
think there was a modaco rom that worked with wii remote. not sure about othe r bluetooth stuff
Hey guys, has anyone found a Playstation-style bluetooth gamepad that works with CyanogenMod's Bluetooth HID implementation? I've already tried playing SNESoid with my Freedom Universal bluetooth keyboard, and while it works, it's obviously not as nice as with an actual gamepad. Any suggestions?
Now correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe it is currently not possible to use a dualshock 3 or sixaxis with Android correct?
Well I was digging through the Samsung Galaxy S' source code and came across a bunch of files in the eclair build's folders. More specifically a bunch of files which lead me to believe they added Dualshock 3 connectivity to the Galaxy S through some means. If anyone wants to take a look at the attached file, be my guest.
I found these files in the \external\bluetooth\bluez\input folder
the main files seam to be fakehid for decoding the PS3's output into fake keypresses, and sixpair for pairing the controller.
Any experienced Android system modders care to take a look and possible add support for dualshock 3 and sixaxis into as many builds as we can?
You may not be able to use dualshock, but you are definately able to use a Wiimote, at least it's gamepad. I use the pp found on the market for my Mother 3 ROM playing cuse I don't have Multitouch on my X10, plus it looks cool to be able to control your phone with a Wiimote.
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so now that has me thinking, what if you set the master address of your dualshock 3 to your phones BT address and tried to connect, thats how you have to do it on Windows Mobile because Sony decided the best way to pair a bluetooth controller is by cable
EDIT: I'd try but I don't have an Android phone at the moment, killed my HD2 a week ago and waiting for the Samsung Vibrant to come out.
+1 for Android-DualShock-Support
I'm working on this right now. I changed the BT master address on my controller with six pair, but I'm having a tough time getting it to connect to the phone. As of right now, the two don't act like the other exists.
This would be awesome. Especially if we find a PS/PS2 emulator (haven't checked to see if there is one already or not.
I hope someone is working on this, it would be to cool to be able to use this controller over a wiimote.
PSX4Droid is out!
we have one more reason to get this working!!
I wont be happy in life until I can play Metal Gear Solid and FF7 on my Samsung Epic with a dualshock 3.
I'll even pay for it. (HINT HINT)
I just recently found myself wishing for this when the PSX emulator came out.
I've done some googling and came across this this source.
sixpair.c. (Only required if the SIXAXIS is to be used with a non-PS3 Bluetooth master.) The SIXAXIS apparently does not support the standard Bluetooth pairing procedure; instead, pairing is done over USB, which is arguably simpler and more secure. This command-line utility searches USB buses for SIXAXIS controllers and tells them to connect to a new Bluetooth master.
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So it appears that sixpair.c is a common linux application that will search USB busses for sixaxis controllers. The issue with connecting to something like an Android device is that the Sixaxis pairs over USB (no pushbutton like on the Wiimote), so it will be tricky to get paired with a phone.
I know the Nokia N900 guys managed to get the sixaxis working with Maemo 6 so its not impossible
tomasz dot sterna dot tv/2010/02/play-games-on-nokia-n900-with-ps3-sixaxis-controller/
kennethlongshaw said:
I know the Nokia N900 guys managed to get the sixaxis working with Maemo 6 so its not impossible
tomasz dot sterna dot tv/2010/02/play-games-on-nokia-n900-with-ps3-sixaxis-controller/
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Makes sense, he just uses sixpair on a linux machine to pass the bt address of his phone (as opposed to the bt address of the actual machine). Ideally we could remove the PC from the equation entirely, but I could settle with this for now.
if anyone can make this happen it'll be the first app I pay for
I know USB host is getting enabled on several phones, there's hacks for the Nexus and Desire. Maybe a starting point is to use this functionality to pair by cable?
i also came across this here in my search, im guessing the people talking about it here on xda are prob. the same as the ones im linking to.
but i thought it was worth linking to.
HTML:
http://www.baconbuzz.com/r/Android/comments/diy22/android_bounties_ps3_dualshocksixaxis_support/
No news? for psx/snes/mega/etc emus
would be incredible, in wm is awesome playing with a psx DualShock3 is priceless
I am surprised that nobody has created this driver bt for ds3 in android
Please, News ?
well there must b a way cause i know for windows mobile theres a program called cobalt controller that u can use to connect either a wiimote or a ps3 controll
Would love to see some work on this would defiantly donate / pay for an app that made this work. Especially now FPSE is on Android!
I was wondering if there was an app that I could install on my Transformer and my Android phone that would let me control the mouse on the Transformer with my phone. I know using VNC is an option but I would just like to control the mouse so when i hook my Transformer up to my tv I can use my phone as a wireless mouse.
Hey, I was thinking the same thing. But that the phone is just a controller, not a mouse. So it would have the buttons, play, pauze, rew/forw, volume up, volume down, and so on..
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Hey, I was thinking the same thing. But that the phone is just a controller, not a mouse. So it would have the buttons, play, pauze, rew/forw, volume up, volume down, and so on..
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Exactly!
10 char
there was an app i used about a year or so ago... it basically turned your entire phone screen into a touchpad with left and right click buttons, you just had to be on wifi...
i'll have to dig it up and see if i can remember the name of the app.
that sounds like just what i need!
xformulax said:
there was an app i used about a year or so ago... it basically turned your entire phone screen into a touchpad with left and right click buttons, you just had to be on wifi...
i'll have to dig it up and see if i can remember the name of the app.
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It's gmote, and it's for phone to desktop, not android to android device. There isn't an app that you want yet since before there was no point in having a remote control app to control another android device since they were all phones.
seshmaru said:
It's gmote, and it's for phone to desktop, not android to android device. There isn't an app that you want yet since before there was no point in having a remote control app to control another android device since they were all phones.
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Alright guess i'll try VNC til someone makes an app for this.
?
how does vnc do this?
i am looking for a way to use my android phone as a keyboard/mouse for my transformer. i have used gmote in the past and that's the idea that i'm looking for, but obviously to control honeycomb tablet not a pc. glad to see i'm not the only one in the market for such an app!
This app actually exists....but only for the Archos line of internet tablets. Check out the Archos Remote app on the Market. Allows you to use any Android 1.6+ device as a media playback remote for the Archos if it's on the same wifi network. As well as the app, a firmware upgrade was required on the Archos itself, and at present the Archos tablets are all running Froyo.
I just tried this yesterday. Just install BlueputDroid and all your problems will be solved. No reason to be on wifi.
damageless said:
I just tried this yesterday. Just install BlueputDroid and all your problems will be solved. No reason to be on wifi.
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tried to use this but the app says my bluetooth stack isnt supported, so it doesnt even try to go.
Unfortunately Blueputdroid won't work cuz my phone is an HTC Desire HD that has Sense. Bluetooth has issues with Sense. I'll continue my search...
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monkespit said:
how does vnc do this?
i am looking for a way to use my android phone as a keyboard/mouse for my transformer. i have used gmote in the past and that's the idea that i'm looking for, but obviously to control honeycomb tablet not a pc. glad to see i'm not the only one in the market for such an app!
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You can run a VNC Server on a rooted Android product allowing you to log into it and run it remotely from a phone or computer.
https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDEsImNvbS50b3VybmVzb2wudGFibGV0cmVtb3RlIl0
I'm gonna try this tonight! Anyone else use it? It has specific settings for the Xperia Play....
I dont think the physical buttons work.
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I dont think the physical buttons work.
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They don't seem to you're right. it looks like it emulates the Xperia play using the touch screen.... Damn
Could someone try contacting the developer? I think I've already tried...
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Wouldve been nice.. I need a gamepad for my tablet, About to buy that onlive universal controller.
Funny, I'm looking for the same thing.
Is there nothing out there that can do this?
Hope no one minds if I bring this thread back - I've been looking around for solutions for this (even before this thread) and stumbled upon androdhid a while back, but I still haven't tried it out:
http://code.google.com/p/androhid/
I more recently found android-bluetooth-touchpad and actually gave it a try:
http://code.google.com/p/android-bluetooth-touchpad/
I couldn't get it to work with Windows, but maybe I was doing something wrong or maybe they were running into the same problems that androhid ran into (they talk about it here: http://code.google.com/p/androhid/wiki/AndroHid ), but I did get it to work with my Android tablet and was able to use it to move the mouse pointer around and click, but the keyboard feature didn't seem to work very well. In contrast, androhid claims to provide a working keyboard, but no mouse support due to technical hurdles, although a commenter mentioned he had extended it to get mouse support working (I tried contacting him, but no response).
So anyway, we have here two at least somewhat working solutions that at least work with Linux/Android, if not Windows. And they're open source.
How interested would ya'll be in adapting these into something with the Xperia Play in mind, so you can use your Xperia Play as a bluetooth gamepad compatible with Linux/Android tablets? (and also as a mouse/keyboard) I may try and work on this if I can find/make the time. It'd be nice to get it working with Windows too, but that might be further off. Or if someone else wants to spearhead it, I'd be willing to help as I'm able. I'm not promising I'll have much time for this any time soon though, but it hopefully shouldn't be too hard.
Or does anybody already have some other good solutions for this? Seems like the solutions I've seen either aren't very good, or rely on custom software on both sides of the connection (both a client and a server, whereas by following the HID standard, you only need custom software on one side-use app on the phone and connect to any android tablet with bluetooth hid support, which most ICS and beyond tablets will and maybe some Gingerbread).
Further down the road I'd even like to get USB HID working, but I'm pretty sure that would require kernel-level development. (ie connect your phone via USB and it acts as a USB controller too)
EDIT: Or maybe I necro'ed the wrong thread, but not sure this one had any good answers either:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730561
~Troop
If it helps, such an app would be relatively easy to make for the buttons and dpad but not the touch pad.
The problem is no one had any incentive to do it.
It would be awesome if the maker of TabletRemote would implement it, he already took care of all the grunt work (nice ui, register each other, settings, etc.)
I made a proof of concept app in a few hours and it worked just fine.
I don't know what the point if this post is.
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Tablet Remote + GameKeyboard = EPIC WIN !
I can use my Xperia Play gamepad as a bluetooth gamepad for my new Nexus 7 and it works perfectly !
Use Tablet Remote for bluetooth remote control, use GameKeyboard to map physical buttons to touch events and you're done !
(However I think GameKeyboard needs root access ...)
hatcyl said:
If it helps, such an app would be relatively easy to make for the buttons and dpad but not the touch pad.
The problem is no one had any incentive to do it.
It would be awesome if the maker of TabletRemote would implement it, he already took care of all the grunt work (nice ui, register each other, settings, etc.)
I made a proof of concept app in a few hours and it worked just fine.
I don't know what the point if this post is.
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I was really just hoping to stir up some interest to motivate me to actually do some Android development. I'd like to spend some time doing Android development, but I rarely have the motivation since I do enough programming as my full-time job and tend to want to relax and do other things when not at work.
You're right, it seems like there isn't that much incentive for this, so it would be nice if developers who already have apps that are so close to what we're talking about to extend their solutions to cover this.
injection18 said:
Tablet Remote + GameKeyboard = EPIC WIN !
I can use my Xperia Play gamepad as a bluetooth gamepad for my new Nexus 7 and it works perfectly !
Use Tablet Remote for bluetooth remote control, use GameKeyboard to map physical buttons to touch events and you're done !
(However I think GameKeyboard needs root access ...)
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Good to know that that combination works out, even if it is a bit roundabout! Shows that having a workable solution matters more to users than following standards. (EDIT: And I don't mean that in a negative way, I'm just saying getting something working is what's most important, worrying about following standards and implementation details is something programmers worry more about than users)
~Troop
injection18 said:
Tablet Remote + GameKeyboard = EPIC WIN !
I can use my Xperia Play gamepad as a bluetooth gamepad for my new Nexus 7 and it works perfectly !
Use Tablet Remote for bluetooth remote control, use GameKeyboard to map physical buttons to touch events and you're done !
(However I think GameKeyboard needs root access ...)
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In fact it works, but you can't press some buttons at the same time ... so I must find an other solution ...
There should be an app that allows to use the Xperia Play as a gamepad on PC. I thinks it's an idea that would completely rock.
I think you can do that already. Just acts as a HID.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.pcon&hl=en here ya go. Think thats the one.
Miles Wolf said:
There should be an app that allows to use the Xperia Play as a gamepad on PC. I thinks it's an idea that would completely rock.
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Yeah, I would like that eventually too. Unfortunately, that's more difficult to do, at least as a true HID device... both the androhid and bluetooth touchpad projects I mentioned ran into a roadblock trying to work with a Windows host (because they don't quite emulate a true/full HID device, just almost, which is "good enough" for Linux). Connecting to Linux distributions which use the Bluez bluetooth stack is very doable, however. Maybe it'll be possible to modify/recompile the Android Bluez bluetooth stack to overcome this, but that makes it much more challenging and puts it further off.
There might be other strategies involving custom driver software on the PC to make it work though that would be easier. (The advantage of operating to the HID standard is that it works with PCs/tablets/phones out of the box without special drivers/software on the host)
Do go watch the demo linked to on the page below, he uses his app in gamepad mode to control a mario-like game running on Linux:
http://code.google.com/p/android-bluetooth-touchpad/
EDIT: Or guess the non-HID solution already exists as Mysticales pointed out above. Note that it is likely not truely emulating a HID device since it requires Java software on the PC. Still, it should get the job done!
~Troop
I just managed to use my Xperia Play as a controller via wifi for my PC and it works WONDERFULLY!
Heres what i did
downloaded and install this :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.pcon&hl=en&rdid=app.pcon&rdot=1
you also need to download the PC client for it to work
Theres a Xperia play mode included but its awful , some buttons dont work and the X button fails to register after using the dpad.
So what i did was use Joypad 1 (the one with the on screen controls)
And used GameKeyboard with a 6 button controller.
End results? it worked perfectly.
I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
ngoonee said:
I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
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Well I think we people are trying to do so much with these smartwatches that are not intented for. I can not see any use for what you are describing especially practicality of it. First of all, any app that you use on the watch is actually running on the phone. So if you want to remotely control your PC, just use the phone itself. Using your watch for that purpose will be extremely slow and would be much of an hassle rather than convenient. The touchscreen on the watch is nowhere close to the sensitivity of the touchsreen of any modern day smartphone. That is another issue. If you are really keen on using it as a mousepad only, without seeing anything on the watch, maybe than it maybe faster but than again it has to first communicate with the phone than the phone will communicate with the PC so again there will be hell of a lag...
But my answer to your question is I don't know any app that can do that at the moment.
It depends on what you wanna do
Well, that might answer your question. As far as I know, no "mouse" exists on watch but that doesn't mean you can't control your PC with your watch.
You might use Unified Remote, tasker and it's smartwatch's version. Unified remote is an app that enables you to control your PC wirelessly from your phone (for example, you can play or pause windows media center, launch any program...), very useful and customizable with paid version. Then, tasker is a really really useful app (maybe a bit hard to understand at first) with which you'll be able to activate only few options of your apps. Tasker live extension shows these options on the watch. I've never tried myself but give it a try and let us know.
I don't know if it's clear enough but, for example, I use sonos system (those are speakers connected to wifi that you control with a special app on your phone), using tasker and tasker extension, I can control sonos (play, pause, skip, volume,...) using my watch.
Of course, as the guy above me said, this will never as easy and fast as on your phone. However there are apps that are intended for controlling your PC.
PS : excuse me for my not-that-good-english.
I'm well aware of unified remote and tasker, I've bought tasker since years ago.
The problem is that there's no real way to translate mousepad-type movements to instructions. I have an idea using multiple hotzones in a UCCW widget so that the further away the touch is from the center of the screen, the further the mouse moves. Like a touch nib, the lenovo type.
In answer to the usefulness, why not use it to remote control the phone, not the pc? Android devices can be fairly big nowadays. Mine is 7.7 inches, if I had a 10 inch tab I can see wanting to put it up on the table, lean back, and remote control it.
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I'm well aware of unified remote and tasker, I've bought tasker since years ago.
The problem is that there's no real way to translate mousepad-type movements to instructions. I have an idea using multiple hotzones in a UCCW widget so that the further away the touch is from the center of the screen, the further the mouse moves. Like a touch nib, the lenovo type.
In answer to the usefulness, why not use it to remote control the phone, not the pc? Android devices can be fairly big nowadays. Mine is 7.7 inches, if I had a 10 inch tab I can see wanting to put it up on the table, lean back, and remote control it.
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you can already do this, buy logitec wireless mouse and keyboard with the unify usb dongle, I have this for my laptop and it works on my Z1, I have a usb adaptor with a full size usb socket on the end and micro usb on the other - plugging into my Z1 gives full control using the mouse and keyboard
Geoffxx said:
you can already do this, buy logitec wireless mouse and keyboard with the unify usb dongle, I have this for my laptop and it works on my Z1, I have a usb adaptor with a full size usb socket on the end and micro usb on the other - plugging into my Z1 gives full control using the mouse and keyboard
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Well, my objective is to use what I'm already wearing rather than carry more gadgets =) already use a wireless mouse myself sometimes. Having peripherals which are the same size as my tablet isn't fun though
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As soon as I find one, I WILL let you know
I'm on a quest to find an app that can REMOTE CONTROL my phone like a mouse or track pad...and as soon as I find it or build it...I will let everyone know about it. FOR THOSE OF YOU good for nothing, pessimist, dream killers, lack of vision, non-dreamers ...I say this...SOME OF US advanced business, guru, tech-geeks have projector phones or need to do presentations and have a phone machine that can do it. Besides my 2013 retina macbook pro or my i7 HP laptop, which im sure could do a fine job presenting or showing presentations through its screen or projector (attachment), I prefer to minimize my load of carrying stuff, specially when I ride my R6 to work meetings. So Mr. ngoonee YOU KEEP on searching and as soon as I find this coveted app I will let you know. Cheers
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I'm on a quest to find an app that can REMOTE CONTROL my phone like a mouse or track pad...and as soon as I find it or build it...I will let everyone know about it. FOR THOSE OF YOU good for nothing, pessimist, dream killers, lack of vision, non-dreamers ...I say this...SOME OF US advanced business, guru, tech-geeks have projector phones or need to do presentations and have a phone machine that can do it. Besides my 2013 retina macbook pro or my i7 HP laptop, which im sure could do a fine job presenting or showing presentations through its screen or projector (attachment), I prefer to minimize my load of carrying stuff, specially when I ride my R6 to work meetings. So Mr. ngoonee YOU KEEP on searching and as soon as I find this coveted app I will let you know. Cheers
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I guess I am one of those dream killers you mention. First of all, I am not trying to discourage anyone trying to do anything.
You can for sure use smartwatch as a presentation controller with buttons like the Logitech ones. It will work. But for practicality, I simply don't see sw2 being used as a mousepad. It is just my opinion and you don't have to agree with me.
So good luck with your search/app development.
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ngoonee said:
I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
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How does this actually work? i cant seem to use the app and theres no guides
brooker88 said:
How does this actually work? i cant seem to use the app and theres no guides
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If you don't understand it it's not meant for you, only works with an X server meaning for Linux computers (possibly can be used for X apps in a mac)
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If you don't understand it it's not meant for you, only works with an X server meaning for Linux computers (possibly can be used for X apps in a mac)
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I wanted to use it on Linux mint 17 but I'm new to Linux so guess I should give it a miss for now
brooker88 said:
I wanted to use it on Linux mint 17 but I'm new to Linux so guess I should give it a miss for now
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Well, basically....
1) SSH on the laptop
2) Profit
If you don't understand that then don't bother.
Lol
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