https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDEsImNvbS50b3VybmVzb2wudGFibGV0cmVtb3RlIl0
I'm gonna try this tonight! Anyone else use it? It has specific settings for the Xperia Play....
I dont think the physical buttons work.
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I dont think the physical buttons work.
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They don't seem to you're right. it looks like it emulates the Xperia play using the touch screen.... Damn
Could someone try contacting the developer? I think I've already tried...
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Wouldve been nice.. I need a gamepad for my tablet, About to buy that onlive universal controller.
Funny, I'm looking for the same thing.
Is there nothing out there that can do this?
Hope no one minds if I bring this thread back - I've been looking around for solutions for this (even before this thread) and stumbled upon androdhid a while back, but I still haven't tried it out:
http://code.google.com/p/androhid/
I more recently found android-bluetooth-touchpad and actually gave it a try:
http://code.google.com/p/android-bluetooth-touchpad/
I couldn't get it to work with Windows, but maybe I was doing something wrong or maybe they were running into the same problems that androhid ran into (they talk about it here: http://code.google.com/p/androhid/wiki/AndroHid ), but I did get it to work with my Android tablet and was able to use it to move the mouse pointer around and click, but the keyboard feature didn't seem to work very well. In contrast, androhid claims to provide a working keyboard, but no mouse support due to technical hurdles, although a commenter mentioned he had extended it to get mouse support working (I tried contacting him, but no response).
So anyway, we have here two at least somewhat working solutions that at least work with Linux/Android, if not Windows. And they're open source.
How interested would ya'll be in adapting these into something with the Xperia Play in mind, so you can use your Xperia Play as a bluetooth gamepad compatible with Linux/Android tablets? (and also as a mouse/keyboard) I may try and work on this if I can find/make the time. It'd be nice to get it working with Windows too, but that might be further off. Or if someone else wants to spearhead it, I'd be willing to help as I'm able. I'm not promising I'll have much time for this any time soon though, but it hopefully shouldn't be too hard.
Or does anybody already have some other good solutions for this? Seems like the solutions I've seen either aren't very good, or rely on custom software on both sides of the connection (both a client and a server, whereas by following the HID standard, you only need custom software on one side-use app on the phone and connect to any android tablet with bluetooth hid support, which most ICS and beyond tablets will and maybe some Gingerbread).
Further down the road I'd even like to get USB HID working, but I'm pretty sure that would require kernel-level development. (ie connect your phone via USB and it acts as a USB controller too)
EDIT: Or maybe I necro'ed the wrong thread, but not sure this one had any good answers either:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730561
~Troop
If it helps, such an app would be relatively easy to make for the buttons and dpad but not the touch pad.
The problem is no one had any incentive to do it.
It would be awesome if the maker of TabletRemote would implement it, he already took care of all the grunt work (nice ui, register each other, settings, etc.)
I made a proof of concept app in a few hours and it worked just fine.
I don't know what the point if this post is.
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Tablet Remote + GameKeyboard = EPIC WIN !
I can use my Xperia Play gamepad as a bluetooth gamepad for my new Nexus 7 and it works perfectly !
Use Tablet Remote for bluetooth remote control, use GameKeyboard to map physical buttons to touch events and you're done !
(However I think GameKeyboard needs root access ...)
hatcyl said:
If it helps, such an app would be relatively easy to make for the buttons and dpad but not the touch pad.
The problem is no one had any incentive to do it.
It would be awesome if the maker of TabletRemote would implement it, he already took care of all the grunt work (nice ui, register each other, settings, etc.)
I made a proof of concept app in a few hours and it worked just fine.
I don't know what the point if this post is.
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I was really just hoping to stir up some interest to motivate me to actually do some Android development. I'd like to spend some time doing Android development, but I rarely have the motivation since I do enough programming as my full-time job and tend to want to relax and do other things when not at work.
You're right, it seems like there isn't that much incentive for this, so it would be nice if developers who already have apps that are so close to what we're talking about to extend their solutions to cover this.
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Tablet Remote + GameKeyboard = EPIC WIN !
I can use my Xperia Play gamepad as a bluetooth gamepad for my new Nexus 7 and it works perfectly !
Use Tablet Remote for bluetooth remote control, use GameKeyboard to map physical buttons to touch events and you're done !
(However I think GameKeyboard needs root access ...)
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Good to know that that combination works out, even if it is a bit roundabout! Shows that having a workable solution matters more to users than following standards. (EDIT: And I don't mean that in a negative way, I'm just saying getting something working is what's most important, worrying about following standards and implementation details is something programmers worry more about than users)
~Troop
injection18 said:
Tablet Remote + GameKeyboard = EPIC WIN !
I can use my Xperia Play gamepad as a bluetooth gamepad for my new Nexus 7 and it works perfectly !
Use Tablet Remote for bluetooth remote control, use GameKeyboard to map physical buttons to touch events and you're done !
(However I think GameKeyboard needs root access ...)
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In fact it works, but you can't press some buttons at the same time ... so I must find an other solution ...
There should be an app that allows to use the Xperia Play as a gamepad on PC. I thinks it's an idea that would completely rock.
I think you can do that already. Just acts as a HID.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.pcon&hl=en here ya go. Think thats the one.
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There should be an app that allows to use the Xperia Play as a gamepad on PC. I thinks it's an idea that would completely rock.
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Yeah, I would like that eventually too. Unfortunately, that's more difficult to do, at least as a true HID device... both the androhid and bluetooth touchpad projects I mentioned ran into a roadblock trying to work with a Windows host (because they don't quite emulate a true/full HID device, just almost, which is "good enough" for Linux). Connecting to Linux distributions which use the Bluez bluetooth stack is very doable, however. Maybe it'll be possible to modify/recompile the Android Bluez bluetooth stack to overcome this, but that makes it much more challenging and puts it further off.
There might be other strategies involving custom driver software on the PC to make it work though that would be easier. (The advantage of operating to the HID standard is that it works with PCs/tablets/phones out of the box without special drivers/software on the host)
Do go watch the demo linked to on the page below, he uses his app in gamepad mode to control a mario-like game running on Linux:
http://code.google.com/p/android-bluetooth-touchpad/
EDIT: Or guess the non-HID solution already exists as Mysticales pointed out above. Note that it is likely not truely emulating a HID device since it requires Java software on the PC. Still, it should get the job done!
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I just managed to use my Xperia Play as a controller via wifi for my PC and it works WONDERFULLY!
Heres what i did
downloaded and install this :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.pcon&hl=en&rdid=app.pcon&rdot=1
you also need to download the PC client for it to work
Theres a Xperia play mode included but its awful , some buttons dont work and the X button fails to register after using the dpad.
So what i did was use Joypad 1 (the one with the on screen controls)
And used GameKeyboard with a 6 button controller.
End results? it worked perfectly.
Related
Now correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe it is currently not possible to use a dualshock 3 or sixaxis with Android correct?
Well I was digging through the Samsung Galaxy S' source code and came across a bunch of files in the eclair build's folders. More specifically a bunch of files which lead me to believe they added Dualshock 3 connectivity to the Galaxy S through some means. If anyone wants to take a look at the attached file, be my guest.
I found these files in the \external\bluetooth\bluez\input folder
the main files seam to be fakehid for decoding the PS3's output into fake keypresses, and sixpair for pairing the controller.
Any experienced Android system modders care to take a look and possible add support for dualshock 3 and sixaxis into as many builds as we can?
You may not be able to use dualshock, but you are definately able to use a Wiimote, at least it's gamepad. I use the pp found on the market for my Mother 3 ROM playing cuse I don't have Multitouch on my X10, plus it looks cool to be able to control your phone with a Wiimote.
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so now that has me thinking, what if you set the master address of your dualshock 3 to your phones BT address and tried to connect, thats how you have to do it on Windows Mobile because Sony decided the best way to pair a bluetooth controller is by cable
EDIT: I'd try but I don't have an Android phone at the moment, killed my HD2 a week ago and waiting for the Samsung Vibrant to come out.
+1 for Android-DualShock-Support
I'm working on this right now. I changed the BT master address on my controller with six pair, but I'm having a tough time getting it to connect to the phone. As of right now, the two don't act like the other exists.
This would be awesome. Especially if we find a PS/PS2 emulator (haven't checked to see if there is one already or not.
I hope someone is working on this, it would be to cool to be able to use this controller over a wiimote.
PSX4Droid is out!
we have one more reason to get this working!!
I wont be happy in life until I can play Metal Gear Solid and FF7 on my Samsung Epic with a dualshock 3.
I'll even pay for it. (HINT HINT)
I just recently found myself wishing for this when the PSX emulator came out.
I've done some googling and came across this this source.
sixpair.c. (Only required if the SIXAXIS is to be used with a non-PS3 Bluetooth master.) The SIXAXIS apparently does not support the standard Bluetooth pairing procedure; instead, pairing is done over USB, which is arguably simpler and more secure. This command-line utility searches USB buses for SIXAXIS controllers and tells them to connect to a new Bluetooth master.
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So it appears that sixpair.c is a common linux application that will search USB busses for sixaxis controllers. The issue with connecting to something like an Android device is that the Sixaxis pairs over USB (no pushbutton like on the Wiimote), so it will be tricky to get paired with a phone.
I know the Nokia N900 guys managed to get the sixaxis working with Maemo 6 so its not impossible
tomasz dot sterna dot tv/2010/02/play-games-on-nokia-n900-with-ps3-sixaxis-controller/
kennethlongshaw said:
I know the Nokia N900 guys managed to get the sixaxis working with Maemo 6 so its not impossible
tomasz dot sterna dot tv/2010/02/play-games-on-nokia-n900-with-ps3-sixaxis-controller/
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Makes sense, he just uses sixpair on a linux machine to pass the bt address of his phone (as opposed to the bt address of the actual machine). Ideally we could remove the PC from the equation entirely, but I could settle with this for now.
if anyone can make this happen it'll be the first app I pay for
I know USB host is getting enabled on several phones, there's hacks for the Nexus and Desire. Maybe a starting point is to use this functionality to pair by cable?
i also came across this here in my search, im guessing the people talking about it here on xda are prob. the same as the ones im linking to.
but i thought it was worth linking to.
HTML:
http://www.baconbuzz.com/r/Android/comments/diy22/android_bounties_ps3_dualshocksixaxis_support/
No news? for psx/snes/mega/etc emus
would be incredible, in wm is awesome playing with a psx DualShock3 is priceless
I am surprised that nobody has created this driver bt for ds3 in android
Please, News ?
well there must b a way cause i know for windows mobile theres a program called cobalt controller that u can use to connect either a wiimote or a ps3 controll
Would love to see some work on this would defiantly donate / pay for an app that made this work. Especially now FPSE is on Android!
Hi everyone.
For those of you who keep up with gaming news, a huge breakthrough in Android gaming has arrived today: the addition of the alpha version of Minecraft has been added to the Marketplace.
However, it only shows up if you are on an Xperia Play phone. Of course, this does not mean you cannot get it and/or its Demo in other ways (which I will not link here), but there's a problem...
It does not play on anything else but the Xperia Play.
I have downloaded the Minecraft Demo for Android and successfully installed it onto my Transformer. It runs, albeit in a small window (and does not give me the option added in 3.2 to make it full screen.
The game does NOT have touch controls. In order to move to other options, you have to have either A. the keyboard dock or B. a controller plugged in through USB.
I have tried both methods. I can use the arrow keys and/or d-pad to select different options. However, I cannot actually choose those options to start the game up. I would assume the X button or the Start button would work, but neither of them do.
Has anyone else tried to get Minecraft working on their tablet and had better luck than me?
Doesn't matter, even if you get into the game (which I have), you cannot do anything. No moving, no dropping blocks, etc. It only works on Xperia Play for the moment.
Decompile the apk and change the controls, then remove device restrictions.
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Doesn't matter, even if you get into the game (which I have), you cannot do anything. No moving, no dropping blocks, etc. It only works on Xperia Play for the moment.
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How did you manage this? I don't understand why the arrow keys would work for the menu, but wouldn't work for moving around in the game.
Moving isn't enough, you have no way to control the camera. You might be able to move, but without being able to look up/down the game is still pointless, not to mention lacking controls so you can't drop blocks/use items/etc.
Good to know. They did say that it would be available to more devices asap... and no intention of iOS support (which is funny to me but stupid financially)
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Minecraft would be awesome. I don't have the dock though, so no touchpad or mouse for me.
Do bluetooth mice work with the transformer without the dock?
right now its a Xperia Only app for a limited time, probably for a month or so then they will allow it to go to other tablets. Im sure a modder can mod the controls in for touch screen.
I have just started using Free Minecraft Pocket Demo with my sixaxis controller. You need to use a controller because the game requires physical buttons as its made for the sony experia. Works pretty well there are a few bugs but nothing major.
Here are the links if interested.
Minecraft Pocket Demo apk: http://www.apktop.com/minecraft-pocket-edition-0-1.html
Sixaxis Controller App: http://dancingpixelstudios.com/sixaxiscontroller/instructions.html
Doesn't work on Inc1 so what's the point of this?
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Doesn't work on Inc1 so what's the point of this?
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It's working fine on my Incredible.
When I tried that app to get the six axis working its said no. So you must have some magical Inc that allowed it to work, tell us what you did. I had a whole topic on this in the q+a section cuz I want to use my six axis for emulators. I had no responses of how to get it to work.
How do you map "enter" or whatever it takes to smash blocks? Also have you played around with the full version? Minecraft Pocket?
I'm using miui....not sure if it makes a difference. I am running a slcd Droid Inc with .92 hboot. I installed the app turned on Bluetooth and no issues. I contacted the sixaxis dev to see if I could get more info on mapping the input commands for 360 movement and smashing blocks. He hasn't emailed me yet but I will update the post when he does. I can't seem to find the paid app in the market does anyone else have luck finding it?
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When I tried that app to get the six axis working its said no. So you must have some magical Inc that allowed it to work, tell us what you did. I had a whole topic on this in the q+a section cuz I want to use my six axis for emulators. I had no responses of how to get it to work.
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Are you running a sense based rom? I remember that the wiimote Bluetooth wouldn't work with sense based roms so I assume that its the same for the sixaxis. You might want to try switching to an AOSP rom (CM7, MIUI, OMGB) to use the sixaxis app.
Also we won't be able to see the paid version in the market. It only appears for xperia play devices.
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Running sense, can't live without it. Oh well.
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Doesn't work on Inc1 so what's the point of this?
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Use the apk provided in this thread. It is fixed to work on the inc
I must have the only one it doesn't work on
This is just too funny my kids are into Minecraft. I better not let on that it can be played on my phone I would lose it. LOL!
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I must have the only one it doesn't work on
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Unfortunately, Sense framework's Bluetooth driver doesn't support connecting Human Interface Devices (HID) like a controller or keyboard.
You'll need to run an AOSP based rom, as they have a different Bluetooth stack that does support HID connections.
Also, another fun fact: TV-out only works on Sense based roms, so if you're like me and dream of playing emulator games on you DINC with a wiimote and watching the video on the TV, that'll have to stay a dream.
Ignore me. I just realized that even though I selected "Search within Incredible 2" I still wound up in the Incredible 1 page. Sorry about that.
I have the paid version of Minecraft PE, got it when Google had the $0.10 app sale last fall. I am running CM7 and can use my six axis controller with SNES and NES emulators. I am having no luck with Minecraft PE though. How do you get the controller to work with Minecraft PE?
Edit: I downloaded the demo in the OP and the six axis functions in the game. However, L3 and R3 both run. I can only run and jump. Am I missing something here?
What I need:
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So.. what happens when this is turned off? Do I have to pair again with the computer?
I don't normally have a computer to get a hold of so I'm curious what would happen if I synced it to my ps3 after using it on my phone, could I just keep the address and sync it back?
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So long as it's not paired with any other device again (PS3 or computer) it will still work with your phone. It would be great if I could pair the remote with the phone over USB.
-Mooney
I found the touch profiles and created one for Minecraft PE. I have the analog_left walking and cross controls the block placement/removal. I cannot get analog_right to work correctly. When trying to turn it only turns as far as a touch from the center of the screen to the right/left of the screen.
The app is listening for a touch and the analog_rght provides a touch for that amount of screen space and when the analog_right goes back to center, the guy goes back looking forward too. As if a finger was moved from center -> side of screen -> center. That's my theory.
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So long as it's not paired with any other device again (PS3 or computer) it will still work with your phone. It would be great if I could pair the remote with the phone over USB.
-Mooney
I found the touch profiles and created one for Minecraft PE. I have the analog_left walking and cross controls the block placement/removal. I cannot get analog_right to work correctly. When trying to turn it only turns as far as a touch from the center of the screen to the right/left of the screen.
The app is listening for a touch and the analog_rght provides a touch for that amount of screen space and when the analog_right goes back to center, the guy goes back looking forward too. As if a finger was moved from center -> side of screen -> center. That's my theory.
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I actually got this work.. although its still buggy..
I don't think this will work for this game. It requires a lot of pressing the controller don't have. In general it works perfect. But the GUI and crafting and closing are the problem makers.
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I will be able to play it. I emailed the dev of the six axis app and he told me how to fix my analog_right problem. All you do is set the button to relative touch. To do this select analog_right Menu -> Button Properties -> Relative Touch. Now it works. I set the sensitivity to about 75-80%.
-Mooney
So close!
samuraixzodus said:
I have just started using Free Minecraft Pocket Demo with my sixaxis controller. You need to use a controller because the game requires physical buttons as its made for the sony experia. Works pretty well there are a few bugs but nothing major.
Here are the links if interested.
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I came very close to getting this figured out. I had the left controls set with the D-pad because if you set it with the analog you would hop around randomly. I set the minecraft options to Split controls, then set an area on the right to the right analog...this is where I came into my trouble, I will inform later on. I set my brick inventory to circle and jump to X. Then I set in the middle of the screen R1 to break and place blocks. Everything was find except for the right analog. It would sense a touch, making it place and break blocks when using the right analog, plus it would reach all the way over to the left controls and just freak out. So if you came up with a solution to this problem please let me know what you found out. Thanks.
I'm sorry to bump this, but is anyone still interested? I've mapped my left analog for the movement( I just changed some button properties) and right analog for view(and building blacks and stuff). Its not complete, but you can play with your controller. My only hindrance is mapping to your block selection. I've mapped triangle as the inventory, but you have to use the touch screen from there. If anyone's interested, send me a PM and I'll send you my mappings.
Chao.
Hello XDA,
I am going to purchase the Moga Pro controller today and was wondering if the controller can be used on Win8Pro in HID mode? as I would like to use it to game on my Acer Iconia W700 as well as on my Samsung Galaxy Note 2.
Thank You,
I would like to know this as well. It does have HID mode so I would think it would work but since on the phone you need a special app to use it...
Hi,
Just found this review on Amazon. According to that person you should be able to though not all the buttons work, namely the triggers.
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Hello,
I have the Moga Pro.
It works on Windows 8 (mode B, HID)
Only R2 and L2 don't work, but it's not a problem with the controller.
R2 & L2 works with ShadowGun & Mupen64 in HID mode.
I don't understand the problem but it's software.
alexandrebe said:
Hello,
I have the Moga Pro.
It works on Windows 8 (mode B, HID)
Only R2 and L2 don't work, but it's not a problem with the controller.
R2 & L2 works with ShadowGun & Mupen64 in HID mode.
I don't understand the problem but it's software.
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Is it maybe possible to use the gamepad with a different driver, that is similar enough to detect all buttons but also the trigger? Cause that would be so great -.-
Dr. lele said:
Is it maybe possible to use the gamepad with a different driver, that is similar enough to detect all buttons but also the trigger? Cause that would be so great -.-
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Old thread, but in case anyone would like to know, the Moga Pro works just fine on Windows now. I use 8.1 myself.
I found this great page about it. It even has a how-to video.
http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/123031/moga-pro-controller-on-windows-7
Needed software referenced in the video is here: http://www.bitbanksoftware.com/tinytools.html
Adso3000 said:
Old thread, but in case anyone would like to know, the Moga Pro works just fine on Windows now. I use 8.1 myself.
I found this great page about it. It even has a how-to video. http://www.bitbanksoftware.com/tinytools.html
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Have you managed to play any games on it?
No, I just tested it as per the setup described. I currently only play games on my Playstation 3 (not with the MOGA obviously) and on my 12.2 tablet, and my PC it's only Civ 5, but that's mostly if I'm at sea. At home I mostly use the PS3. I just tested it with Win 8.1 in relation to a review I did for a website confirming that it works with Win 8.1. How well that would work in actual games I haven't tested, but I assumed it would, since there's be no reason for anyone to use this feature otherwise.
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Is it maybe possible to use the gamepad with a different driver, that is similar enough to detect all buttons but also the trigger? Cause that would be so great -.-
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Again, old thread, but I've written a program called MogaSerial that finally does fully support the Moga controllers on Windows 7, 8, and 10, using their mode A serial connection. It interfaces with either the vJoy joystick driver for DirectInput support or the SCP virtual bus driver for XInput support. All buttons and triggers work properly.
The program is on Github, at https://github.com/Zel-os/MogaSerial
Zel-os said:
Again, old thread, but I've written a program called MogaSerial that finally does fully support the Moga controllers on Windows 7, 8, and 10, using their mode A serial connection. It interfaces with either the vJoy joystick driver for DirectInput support or the SCP virtual bus driver for XInput support. All buttons and triggers work properly.
The program is on Github, at https://github.com/Zel-os/MogaSerial
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Good job, but it seems something is not right in Xbox mode as the triggers are operating the right analog stick up/down. Not sure what the right analog stick is mapped to.
Alex Atkin UK said:
Good job, but it seems something is not right in Xbox mode as the triggers are operating the right analog stick up/down. Not sure what the right analog stick is mapped to.
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There's some troubleshooting information on the GitHub project wiki page. If you've already checked that, it'd be helpful if you could open an issue there with your type of Moga controller and version of Windows. I've done pretty extensive testing with the Pro on Win7 and 10, and had reports of the Hero working fine, but there are a number of other models I don't have access to.
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There's some troubleshooting information on the GitHub project wiki page. If you've already checked that, it'd be helpful if you could open an issue there with your type of Moga controller and version of Windows. I've done pretty extensive testing with the Pro on Win7 and 10, and had reports of the Hero working fine, but there are a number of other models I don't have access to.
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Sorry I forgot to mention, it is the Moga Pro in Win 10. I was testing functionality by streaming the Xbox One.
Zel-os said:
Again, old thread, but I've written a program called MogaSerial that finally does fully support the Moga controllers on Windows 7, 8, and 10, using their mode A serial connection. It interfaces with either the vJoy joystick driver for DirectInput support or the SCP virtual bus driver for XInput support. All buttons and triggers work properly.
The program is on Github, at https://github.com/Zel-os/MogaSerial
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Zel-os, thanks so much for this; I've been hoping someone would make a driver for a long time now. Works great with my Moga Pro on Win 7 64-bit. :good:
This is a great app, and works as advertised on my Power Pro, in Windows 8.1. This is a gaming laptop. The Asus ROG G750JH (I7 Intel, 12GB RAM, Nvidia 860M). It's a pretty powerful rig (for a laptop), but I am getting lag in SCP mode on Skyrim. It is very random, but it never goes more than 1 minute without getting a short burst of severe lag. I haven't tried other games yet, but I will try some soon.
I think you have done some great work with this, and hope that it can be improved even more (mainly the lag). In fairness, sometimes there IS some lag using Inputmapper for my DS4 controller (wirelessly. Wired works perfect all the time), but it is under 4ms MOST of the time. I will do some more testing, because it MIGHT be my system not your app at all (that is to blame here).
Thanks for the feedback!
I'd like to be able to stomp out the remaining lag issues, but it's been difficult to tell where they're coming from. Sometimes it seems like the problem is an issue with various bluetooth radios or their drivers, and other times it seems like it could be related to MogaSerial needing to run in user space rather than as an actual driver. Every latency report seems different, which has made it awfully hard to pin down the cause.
Thanks for the feedback!
I'd like to be able to stomp out the remaining lag issues, but it's been difficult to tell where they're coming from. Sometimes it seems like the problem is an issue with various bluetooth radios or their drivers, and other times it seems like it could be related to MogaSerial needing to run in user space rather than as an actual driver. Every latency report seems different, which has made it awfully hard to pin down the cause.
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Your welcome. I have had this controller for a long time, and have waited all that time for some way to use it in Windows (with full functionality). So, THANK you for doing this for everyone!
As an update (and some more testing), I have found that there is very little lag in certain situations. First, I need to explain my setup, so you can get my meaning without me having to write an entire book. I have an Asus ROG G750JH gaming laptop. It has a generic Broadcom BT built-in. On my "desktop" setup (in my computer room, at my desk) I have a Logitech Orion gaming keyboard plugged in, a Logitech G700S gaming mouse (sometimes I switch to Logitech G602 gaming mouse), HDMI going to a 42" Roku TV, a sound bar that has a BT subwoofer, and of course my Moga (sometimes a DS4 controller).
Now that we have that out of the way, this is where I was trying to use my controller when I posted my last. Since then, I have used it in my living room (with none of the above hooked up to the laptop except the controller. I noticed that I have no lag (or at least not noticeable to me). So, it is possible that there was interference from the wifi on both the laptop, and the TV. And, there might have also been some due to the BT connection from the soundbar to its subwoofer counterpart.
I will keep testing this to see if I can duplicate the lag with no other devices in the backgroud (except the wifi on the laptop and wireless router itself). I have also noticed that my controller likes to jump to the right once in a while (the "strafe" stick) (once in a while means in between 0 seconds, and about 2 minutes, never more than that). Now, this COULD be my controller, but I don't remember having this jitter issue in android (though I will try and test this also).
One thing that makes me thing that all these devices are the culprit is that when I use my DS4 controller, I can sometimes get up to (and including) 320ms spikes of lag. This doesn't ALWAYS happen, but when it does, I just hook up the USB cable and use it that way, with no lag. So, there MIGHT be nothing to be done, if it is hardware related.
I know you can change the poll rate to speed things up a bit, but if there is a lot of traffic going on in Windows this will still cause lag. I wonder if there isn't a way to change affinity for your app and all daughter/parent processes like you can in task manager for programs. I am no programmer, so this may sound silly or impossible, but if the controller connection, and all software related to it were given priority by the OS, it would solve the lag (IMO). I realize that the OS might not be programmed (out of the box) to do this because the BT connection doesn't actually show up on task manager, so the option is not available for it, but could an app be made for this?
I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
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I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
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Well I think we people are trying to do so much with these smartwatches that are not intented for. I can not see any use for what you are describing especially practicality of it. First of all, any app that you use on the watch is actually running on the phone. So if you want to remotely control your PC, just use the phone itself. Using your watch for that purpose will be extremely slow and would be much of an hassle rather than convenient. The touchscreen on the watch is nowhere close to the sensitivity of the touchsreen of any modern day smartphone. That is another issue. If you are really keen on using it as a mousepad only, without seeing anything on the watch, maybe than it maybe faster but than again it has to first communicate with the phone than the phone will communicate with the PC so again there will be hell of a lag...
But my answer to your question is I don't know any app that can do that at the moment.
It depends on what you wanna do
Well, that might answer your question. As far as I know, no "mouse" exists on watch but that doesn't mean you can't control your PC with your watch.
You might use Unified Remote, tasker and it's smartwatch's version. Unified remote is an app that enables you to control your PC wirelessly from your phone (for example, you can play or pause windows media center, launch any program...), very useful and customizable with paid version. Then, tasker is a really really useful app (maybe a bit hard to understand at first) with which you'll be able to activate only few options of your apps. Tasker live extension shows these options on the watch. I've never tried myself but give it a try and let us know.
I don't know if it's clear enough but, for example, I use sonos system (those are speakers connected to wifi that you control with a special app on your phone), using tasker and tasker extension, I can control sonos (play, pause, skip, volume,...) using my watch.
Of course, as the guy above me said, this will never as easy and fast as on your phone. However there are apps that are intended for controlling your PC.
PS : excuse me for my not-that-good-english.
I'm well aware of unified remote and tasker, I've bought tasker since years ago.
The problem is that there's no real way to translate mousepad-type movements to instructions. I have an idea using multiple hotzones in a UCCW widget so that the further away the touch is from the center of the screen, the further the mouse moves. Like a touch nib, the lenovo type.
In answer to the usefulness, why not use it to remote control the phone, not the pc? Android devices can be fairly big nowadays. Mine is 7.7 inches, if I had a 10 inch tab I can see wanting to put it up on the table, lean back, and remote control it.
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I'm well aware of unified remote and tasker, I've bought tasker since years ago.
The problem is that there's no real way to translate mousepad-type movements to instructions. I have an idea using multiple hotzones in a UCCW widget so that the further away the touch is from the center of the screen, the further the mouse moves. Like a touch nib, the lenovo type.
In answer to the usefulness, why not use it to remote control the phone, not the pc? Android devices can be fairly big nowadays. Mine is 7.7 inches, if I had a 10 inch tab I can see wanting to put it up on the table, lean back, and remote control it.
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you can already do this, buy logitec wireless mouse and keyboard with the unify usb dongle, I have this for my laptop and it works on my Z1, I have a usb adaptor with a full size usb socket on the end and micro usb on the other - plugging into my Z1 gives full control using the mouse and keyboard
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you can already do this, buy logitec wireless mouse and keyboard with the unify usb dongle, I have this for my laptop and it works on my Z1, I have a usb adaptor with a full size usb socket on the end and micro usb on the other - plugging into my Z1 gives full control using the mouse and keyboard
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Well, my objective is to use what I'm already wearing rather than carry more gadgets =) already use a wireless mouse myself sometimes. Having peripherals which are the same size as my tablet isn't fun though
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As soon as I find one, I WILL let you know
I'm on a quest to find an app that can REMOTE CONTROL my phone like a mouse or track pad...and as soon as I find it or build it...I will let everyone know about it. FOR THOSE OF YOU good for nothing, pessimist, dream killers, lack of vision, non-dreamers ...I say this...SOME OF US advanced business, guru, tech-geeks have projector phones or need to do presentations and have a phone machine that can do it. Besides my 2013 retina macbook pro or my i7 HP laptop, which im sure could do a fine job presenting or showing presentations through its screen or projector (attachment), I prefer to minimize my load of carrying stuff, specially when I ride my R6 to work meetings. So Mr. ngoonee YOU KEEP on searching and as soon as I find this coveted app I will let you know. Cheers
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I'm on a quest to find an app that can REMOTE CONTROL my phone like a mouse or track pad...and as soon as I find it or build it...I will let everyone know about it. FOR THOSE OF YOU good for nothing, pessimist, dream killers, lack of vision, non-dreamers ...I say this...SOME OF US advanced business, guru, tech-geeks have projector phones or need to do presentations and have a phone machine that can do it. Besides my 2013 retina macbook pro or my i7 HP laptop, which im sure could do a fine job presenting or showing presentations through its screen or projector (attachment), I prefer to minimize my load of carrying stuff, specially when I ride my R6 to work meetings. So Mr. ngoonee YOU KEEP on searching and as soon as I find this coveted app I will let you know. Cheers
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I guess I am one of those dream killers you mention. First of all, I am not trying to discourage anyone trying to do anything.
You can for sure use smartwatch as a presentation controller with buttons like the Logitech ones. It will work. But for practicality, I simply don't see sw2 being used as a mousepad. It is just my opinion and you don't have to agree with me.
So good luck with your search/app development.
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ngoonee said:
I use XMouse - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stripe1.xmouse - for remote control of my laptop from my phone. Linux-only, but windows versions of similar programs exist, of course.
I haven't found anything similar for smartwatches. In principle it'd only be useful as a mousepad, and a small one at that, but I think it'd be cool. Has anyone found anything similar?
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How does this actually work? i cant seem to use the app and theres no guides
brooker88 said:
How does this actually work? i cant seem to use the app and theres no guides
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If you don't understand it it's not meant for you, only works with an X server meaning for Linux computers (possibly can be used for X apps in a mac)
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If you don't understand it it's not meant for you, only works with an X server meaning for Linux computers (possibly can be used for X apps in a mac)
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I wanted to use it on Linux mint 17 but I'm new to Linux so guess I should give it a miss for now
brooker88 said:
I wanted to use it on Linux mint 17 but I'm new to Linux so guess I should give it a miss for now
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Well, basically....
1) SSH on the laptop
2) Profit
If you don't understand that then don't bother.
Lol
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