[Q] Couple of questions regarding updates and rooting - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

Hi,
Im new with Android and have a couple of questions :
I have flashed my ZTE Light with a unofficial Android 2.2 (from official 2.1) and that works grate, but what does this really mean in the future? Will I be able to update to the official 2.2 when its released? Is there any drawbacks comparing to a official firmware?
The internal memory is getting full fast even when using SDMove so I am thinking of rooting the device and by that be able to use applications like Move2SD, but what will rooting mean? Will I still be able to remove the rooting and will I still be able to update the phone to a official firmware? What is the risks?
I have seen that there is alot of talk about rooms when dealing with rooting? Is the room the software that will root my device? And why is there so many diffrent rooms to use?
BestRegards

If your rooted running the 2.2 ROM now, why go back to what is "officially" released? You are already ahead of the game.

labratss said:
If your rooted running the 2.2 ROM now, why go back to what is "officially" released? You are already ahead of the game.
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Thanks!
As I said, Im new to Android so I do not really know that much about it yet.
I have not rooted the device yet but I have flashed with the following files : [Link removed]
android_2.2_for_zte_light-read_1st.rar - Flashprogram
V9_GENERICV1.0.0B03.rar - Files to flash on to the device
Sales_MultiDL_MSM7227_patched.zip - somekind of patch
1. I Supose that the official 2.2 firmware will be more adapted to my device then this flash is? Or will there be no point in going with the official when having this flash in place? Could there by any problems with future updates(ex 2.3) when using this custom firmware?
I have a guid on how to root the device based on the leaked 2.2 V9_GENERICV1.0.0B03 (Android 2.2) rom.
2. Is this a good idéa or is there any problems with this? If this does not work as needed is it possible to go back to an unrooted device? And if so how? Will I have to re-flash the device(re-install everything)?
3. I supose that a rom is the rooting software and there could be many flavour of a rooting software(rom)
Would be grate If your could answer my questions
BestRegards

First of all i would like to clear ur misunserstanding u have.. a ROM is not a software used for rooting.. indeed ROM is the OS for your phone.. there are many custom roms available.. u can choose them according to ur need.. and always make sure that u r flashing a rom which is suitable for ur phone..
Rooting is nothing but giving kind of administrative access to u.. so u can delete the protected contents or boltwares from ur phone.. for u to flash any new roms, u should be rooted..

amith007 said:
First of all i would like to clear ur misunserstanding u have.. a ROM is not a software used for rooting.. indeed ROM is the OS for your phone.. there are many custom roms available.. u can choose them according to ur need.. and always make sure that u r flashing a rom which is suitable for ur phone..
Rooting is nothing but giving kind of administrative access to u.. so u can delete the protected contents or boltwares from ur phone.. for u to flash any new roms, u should be rooted..
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Thanks!
The ROM im using us a custom ROM, the manufacture(ZTE) have not yet released a Android 2.2 ROM for my device yet, this is why I have to use a custom ROM.
Accoring to the author of the guid I followed to flash the custom Android 2.2 ROM to my device, the ROM is not rooted. This seems to be correct because programs that are supose to move apps from the device internal memory to the SD card is not working.
To get this working a parmanent rooting needs to be done according to the author.
If this parmanent rooting is dones I supose that I will be able to use apps that moves other apps to the SD card.
So If I decide to root my device and then turn back again I should simple be able to re-flash the device with the custom Android 2.2 ROM that I used before? Is This correct?
And If the manufacture releases a orginal Anroid 2.2 ROM I will also be able to flash this in to the device, this will however not be possible to root if the manufacture is not releasing the source.
Am I correct?
BestRegards

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Downgraded Legend .. now what ?

I downgraded my legend to 2.1 , 1.3.X build version. I would I like to go the 2.2 version - but it should be rooted, how do i do so ?
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My HBOOT is on 1.0 , how do i go to 0.43 ?
any help guys ?
DAMN. Need some reply guys ! Here il put it once again nicely for you:
I just downgraded my legend from 2.2 froyo to 2.1 , 1.3X build. I want to root it but my HBOOT version is 1.00. Will this be a problem because i think i require 0.43? If so , how do i proceed ?
Also I would like to go to Froyo again. Therefore which ROM is the original FROYO ROM for Legend which is on root and also provides ROOT ?
Also i would like to know if we are on ROOT , can we change ROMS on the fly ? Like , when and where we want without the need for a PC ?
well I have no experience with your phone model at all, but couldn't you just try and download one of the root apps from the market? I used one click lag fix on my galaxy s, but I don't know if it would work with your model.
As for roms, I use rom manager and that allows me to flash to new roms whenever I want without the need of a computer.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
Which is the best ROM Manager that I must install ? And also , what is the Clockwork Recovery Mod ? How is it used ???
abhishek_turbo911 said:
Which is the best ROM Manager that I must install ? And also , what is the Clockwork Recovery Mod ? How is it used ???
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Rom manager is an app in the market. But, you must be rooted and more importantly, make sure that your phone is compatible with everything. Clockwork is a modified recovery menu that comes with rom manager. It has a lot more options than the stock recovery menu. Rom manager and clockwork are very helpful in creating backups in case you cant boot up or something but can still access the recovery menu.
Make sure you know how to fix your phone if you ended up bricking it, that the rom you look at is compatible with your current setup, etc...
But like I said, I know nothing about your phone at all so it could work differently. Read up on everything you can in the Forums for it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

[Q] [Help] Help a n00b out.. :)

Ok, finally got my first Android phone, the SGS+, now what?
1). My version is KG1 and most on this forum are other variants. Is this code just regional or what?
2). Rooting. This allows me to have full control over the system. What will this help me with? (Except OverClocking)
3). Custom ROMs. These little "toys" transform your phone and make it better (in a nut shell). How do you flash a ROM and how do you restore to Stock SGS+ FW?
4). Recovery Mode. I heard you need to replace it with a better one in order to OC and change ROMs. How do you do that exactly?
These are the main ones also,
5). My phone is slow at times... I think I have too many apps running at once (After reboot I have 220mb RAM used from 350mb). I think I should Hard Reset and see if that will work?
6). 2.3.3 -> 2.3.4. I can not find the Samsung Page where to get the upgrade (I heard that it`s called 2.3.3 but it`s 2.3.4 and bla bla bla)
So, I would apreciate it if you could help me a little,
Thanks in Advance!
I have the exact same question as you, so thanks anyone who can answer this hopefully.
crisdorya said:
Ok, finally got my first Android phone, the SGS+, now what?
1). My version is KG1 and most on this forum are other variants. Is this code just regional or what?
2). Rooting. This allows me to have full control over the system. What will this help me with? (Except OverClocking)
3). Custom ROMs. These little "toys" transform your phone and make it better (in a nut shell). How do you flash a ROM and how do you restore to Stock SGS+ FW?
4). Recovery Mode. I heard you need to replace it with a better one in order to OC and change ROMs. How do you do that exactly?
These are the main ones also,
5). My phone is slow at times... I think I have too many apps running at once (After reboot I have 220mb RAM used from 350mb). I think I should Hard Reset and see if that will work?
6). 2.3.3 -> 2.3.4. I can not find the Samsung Page where to get the upgrade (I heard that it`s called 2.3.3 but it`s 2.3.4 and bla bla bla)
So, I would apreciate it if you could help me a little,
Thanks in Advance!
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1. Regional firmware, yes...you should stick to it or you might find gsm/3g problems...unless there's a custom firmware like CM7 which is universal like
2. Rooting? lots of advantages...one of them is to install "chainfire3D" get "tegra 2 plugin" and play most of tegra 2 games with high quality graphics...you can use titanium backup to permanently remove systems apps or backup your apps..e.t.c
3. No custom firmware is available, it's a shame, yes it is for the devs specially...ironic..but there's a tool called "odin multidownloader" it helps you flash firmwares...you can get your stock firmware from "samfirmware.com"
4. No such recovery is developed...the name for that recovery is "Clockworkmod" which is not yet developed for this phone. Shame on devs :/ using that you can backup whole firmware so you can restore it incase your device doesn't bootup properly (quite straightforward) also you can install custom firmwares in a .zip format which i really like because that way, you will never mess up your phone or brick it...well exagerated there but it's the best and easiest way to flash a custom firmware
5. Hardreset doesn't get rid of your system apps...you can delete them by rooting the phone then installing titanium backup from market which is free.
6. get 2.3.4 rooted from here....i'm using it and it has no problem whatsoever:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260707
Another good thing about 2.3.4 is that there is a battery drain bug in 2.3.3 which is fixed in 2.3.4 so i strongly recommend you to flash that...
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Thanks shad0wboss for the helpful information.
I do hope devs can make Custom ROMs and Custom Recovery a reality.
But until then, rooting will sufice.
Also, you said that you are using 2.3.4, is that a Universal or I should really stick with my regional-FW?
crisdorya said:
Thanks shad0wboss for the helpful information.
I do hope devs can make Custom ROMs and Custom Recovery a reality.
But until then, rooting will sufice.
Also, you said that you are using 2.3.4, is that a Universal or I should really stick with my regional-FW?
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shouldn't be a problem since my stock firmware is also different than that one and everything's working fine...if it doesn't work out for you, you can always flash back to your stock firmware.

[Q] Rooting & rom noob - help needed

I have few question and dunno where to start. First, I downloaded some custom ROM and I want to install it, is installing new ROM same as rooting ? If not, how to install that ROM which I have already downloaded and ROOT my Galaxy Ace ?
P.S. I'm kinda afraid of rooting I get it as some sort of scary **** to do :S But since I can't update to 2.3.6 since this stupid Polish firmware doesn't let me to do it, I want to change to another one. And I want to ROOT it so I can move some apps to memory card so I get more RAM
I would really appriciate some useful advices
This thread by hubix should explain it all
SwannyBhoy said:
This thread by hubix should explain it all
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Thanks I should have searched first >.< Btw after I install some other firmware and root my phone, would I be able to update it via Kies ?
Thanks for the answer again
No buddy, once you root Kies will be useless. You may be able to find the most up-to-date rom and root it.
If you go for a custom rom usually developers update it to the latest firmware version.
Just be careful on what your doing to your phone. Read the tutorial 3-4 times before starting the process and make sure you have everything.
Also.. make sure you check task manager and end task all KIES apps. (KiesAgentTray KiesPLR etc)

[Q] few question about chinese smartphone NO.1 I9400.

hey
i just got my new android smartphone, im surfing here alot but im new registered user so i cant put link after 10 messages...
the smartphone is NO.1 I9400 can be found in sites like pandawill and lightake.
and i got some question... by the way the phone have root and the normal android recovery
1. i wonder if i can put on it rom that beased on other phone
because there is no custom rom for this one..and the rom i got with him is lame,
2. where can i get the rom that already on the phone..is it possible? the company have no web...or at least i didnt found the site.
3. is there any rom that made to work on all phone
i mean to install it and it will reconize the phone hardware and all, like a general rom for all phone
4. is it possible to put total clean ics 4.1.2? that never have been change on this phone? if so where can i download it?
i have 4.1.2 but it look like it have been customed by the supplier..
5. can i take custom rom like cm9 and change it to work with my phone? like self customize it but in nooby way with guild because im not a developer so i have no experience with building roms...
Thanks in advance.
Shlomi.
Shlomi93 said:
hey
i just got my new android smartphone, im surfing here alot but im new registered user so i cant put link after 10 messages...
the smartphone is NO.1 I9400 can be found in sites like pandawill and lightake.
and i got some question... by the way the phone have root and the normal android recovery
1. i wonder if i can put on it rom that beased on other phone
because there is no custom rom for this one..and the rom i got with him is lame,
2. where can i get the rom that already on the phone..is it possible? the company have no web...or at least i didnt found the site.
3. is there any rom that made to work on all phone
i mean to install it and it will reconize the phone hardware and all, like a general rom for all phone
4. is it possible to put total clean ics 4.1.2? that never have been change on this phone? if so where can i download it?
i have 4.1.2 but it look like it have been customed by the supplier..
5. can i take custom rom like cm9 and change it to work with my phone? like self customize it but in nooby way with guild because im not a developer so i have no experience with building roms...
Thanks in advance.
Shlomi.
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1- you should port other phone's rom to your phone and then flash it.. only then will you be able to use that rom on your phone..
2- Google stock rom/original firmware <your phone 'name> .. if its available on the internet then you will find one.. or else you will need to do a nandroid backup or extract it..
3- there is no general rom which works on all phones rightaway.. there is cyanogenmod which is by far available for all phones (don't know about Chinese phones) .. but you will have to do some tweaks or modification to work on a specific phone because different phones have different hardwares..
4-4.1.2 is jb and not ics.. you will have to put cm10 or probably delete the bloatware installed by your supplier..
5- as i said before you need to port cm9 for your phone.. there are many noob friendly guides on xda to help porting roms.. check out
Syed.Zeshan said:
1- you should port other phone's rom to your phone and then flash it.. only then will you be able to use that rom on your phone..
2- Google stock rom/original firmware <your phone 'name> .. if its available on the internet then you will find one.. or else you will need to do a nandroid backup or extract it..
3- there is no general rom which works on all phones rightaway.. there is cyanogenmod which is by far available for all phones (don't know about Chinese phones) .. but you will have to do some tweaks or modification to work on a specific phone because different phones have different hardwares..
4-4.1.2 is jb and not ics.. you will have to put cm10 or probably delete the bloatware installed by your supplier..
5- as i said before you need to port cm9 for your phone.. there are many noob friendly guides on xda to help porting roms.. check out
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i looked aroud and tryed to port CWM and CM ROM and this is no noob frindley...
about my smartphone rom im still trying to get it..
is there any way to put out the rom from my device? with app or somthine that ill could suck the rom from my device...
by the way i cant root i tryed alot! alot of ways to root but nothing..
all i want to know how can i take rom and change it to work with my phone hardware.. without my device rom.
Best thing you could do is find a similar device to your phone's spec's and find a Rom you like from that phone and then port it to your phone using the many noob friendly guides in chef central
Sent from my HTC Velocity 4G using Tapatalk 4 beta
Shlomi93 said:
i looked aroud and tryed to port CWM and CM ROM and this is no noob frindley...
about my smartphone rom im still trying to get it..
is there any way to put out the rom from my device? with app or somthine that ill could suck the rom from my device...
by the way i cant root i tryed alot! alot of ways to root but nothing..
all i want to know how can i take rom and change it to work with my phone hardware.. without my device rom.
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try srsroot,unlock root,z4 root.. if you're not getting your Rom you extract it yourself. I think before porting any Rom,you have to figure out root for your phone because NO CUSTOM ROM WILL WORK WITHOUT ROOT.. try srsroot, it has rooted many unconventional devices also.. Google srsroot,download it from their official website and try..
so i tryed all thos methods...
MTK6589_6577_w6575_V1.06
Rootx For android
MTKdroidTools
z_rootkit
SuperOneClick
TPSparkyRoot
Shuame
unlockrootRoot
Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v17
Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v30
MT6577 CWMR Root Updated V2
SRSRoot
z4 root
and still nothine!! some computer apps says that im rooted but in my smartphone im not i checked like 666669 times!
please some one help me root that damm phone
btw its calld ALPS 9400 on all root apps!
please help!!!
anyone help....?
Shlomi93 said:
so i tryed all thos methods...
MTK6589_6577_w6575_V1.06
Rootx For android
MTKdroidTools
z_rootkit
SuperOneClick
TPSparkyRoot
Shuame
unlockrootRoot
Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v17
Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v30
MT6577 CWMR Root Updated V2
SRSRoot
z4 root
and still nothine!! some computer apps says that im rooted but in my smartphone im not i checked like 666669 times!
please some one help me root that damm phone
btw its calld ALPS 9400 on all root apps!
please help!!!
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does your phone has locked bootloader or UNlocked one?
I have a same problem...any ideas?
How good are these phones?
very good phones
A suggestion...
I'm not 100 % you can do it but there is a slight chance you can root your phone through fastboot ! Maybe pushing the su binary and apk through adb and giving permissions or maybe flasing a custom CWM Rrecovery through fastboot and flashing an SU flashable zip through that recovery !
BUT be awere BOTH of these methods are BIG MAYBE ! I can not test and I can not ensure you any of these will work !
You can get a flashable SU package here :
1) Superuser : http://androidsu.com/superuser/
2) Super SU : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
you can
yes you can
i know page on Facebook that support me to root my device and install cmw
Chinese smart phone support
I used this to root my i9400, hope it helps!
Created by Bin4ry
View attachment Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v31.zip

[Q] Rooting OPO: n00b Questions

Hello, I have been an iOS user since past 4 years and i just switched to android with the OPO ... I have never used iOS device without jailbreak so I am very much interested in rooting the OPO as well. I have gone through the steps on both the OPO forums and here at xda, but I still have a few unanswered questions. [Sorry for the n00b questions, I have never ever done this so I am being really cautious]
1. The Backup : tutorials mention about backing up, but they dont mention how to backup. I m not talking about backing up data, but backing up OS n Stuff so I don't brick the device.
2. The drivers : Which drivers are being discussed here ? the phone drivers or the Google USB driver from SDK Manager or something else ??
3. The Recovery Options : In the XDA video there were multiple recovery options in the toolkit out of which the guy selected 1 and said its upto personal choice. I need to know whats the diff between them.
4. The Revert Option : In future if i want to revert then how to Unroot the device ?
5. Also in the tutorials they talk about flashing with a Custom ROM. But i dont want a Custom ROM i just want the same OS but just rooted. [considering Cyanogen is the Official ROM and not the custom for OPO]
6. Should I wait for the Lollipop update to root ? Coz i read that u cant get updates [OTA] while rooted, and I am very eager to use Android 5.
7. And what are the things that I should absolutely take care of will rooting so that I don't brick the phone
Thanks
1. Backup ur data cuz when u unlock the bootloader it wipes ur phone. Do a nand backup of system with a recovery of ur choice
2. Install google usb drivers
3. Which ever u choose. They pretty much do the same. Thats whats great about android. Its ur choose.
4. There r guide that will show u how to revert back to stock.
5. U dnt have to flash custom. U can just root..
6. U can always go back to stock if u need.
7. Just read, and learn to use adb. Try not to rely on toolkits.
LiquidXed said:
1. Backup ur data cuz when u unlock the bootloader it wipes ur phone. Do a nand backup of system with a recovery of ur choice
2. Install google usb drivers
3. Which ever u choose. They pretty much do the same. Thats whats great about android. Its ur choose.
4. There r guide that will show u how to revert back to stock.
5. U dnt have to flash custom. U can just root..
6. U can always go back to stock if u need.
7. Just read, and learn to use adb. Try not to rely on toolkits.
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Thanks for the reply but can u give me some details on the update. how so i update my phone when i m rooted ??? for every update i need to revert to stack and then root again ??
bhargav_me said:
Thanks for the reply but can u give me some details on the update. how so i update my phone when i m rooted ??? for every update i need to revert to stack and then root again ??
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Having root doesn't affect your ability to get OTAs. Just accept the OTA and then re-root by flashing SuperSU after applying the update.

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