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So, there are reports and samples pics of Diamond and TyTN II owners getting MUCH imporved photo quality by simply removing the outer camera cover. The issue with the TC is the camera cover is not part of the battery cover like it is with those devices. I used to think it was an advantage to keep dust out, but seeing how we TC owners can't do this as easily, I'm rethinking that...
Anyone out there tried to remove the TC outer camera cover? If so, how? And to what results?
Any on this?
Could jomo25 post some links to those reports?
Also, after taking a look at this thread, it looks like temporarily removing the top plastic cover isn't that hard. Just do this, and try taking the photos without it.
Indoor lighting conditions
The first picture is good. I'm able to take pictures like that, but ONLY if stay half a minute totally shiftless! And I'm still a human person not a rock!
I found that playing around with the brightness and contrast settings makes a huge difference. The auto settings don't seem to be good for much. It appears the 2 sample pictures have different settings, I've snapped quite a few pics with my Polaris, and can't see the difference shown here being due to removing that plastic (glass?) cover...
SuperJMN said:
The first picture is good. I'm able to take pictures like that, but ONLY if stay half a minute totally shiftless! And I'm still a human person not a rock!
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these are the exif info side by side
you are right, i should have used manual settings, but for me the difference was overwelming and didn't think to make more tests.
After this test, i'm thinking of buying a high quality watch glass cover, have it cut to the right size and replace the original cover lens.
If i'll get to that, i'll come back with some more pics.
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Indoor lighting conditions
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Are those two pictures a comparison between the plastic protection on and off?
yeap, i think the images are self-explanatory.
just try too use self timer and set it on 2 sec then uf got time to hold your phone right and you have nice pictures
i use it for myself this way
P.s sorry for my bad english
im dutch
I'm beyond confused as to why 90% of my photos i'm taking with my S3 are blurry.
I want to love this phone but the camera is the most important feature to me and right now it just isn't cutting it.
I took 10-12 shots of a dog and cat i'm house sitting for outside AND inside and EVERYONE one of them has awful blurry images or pixelation. I'm as steady as can be and so were the animals but the shots shouldn't look THIS bad or this blurry. Are there settings I can do? i already tried turning on the stabilization...but that doesn't seem to help at all. Any settings or suggestions would be great because I don't want to return this and get an iPhone 5. Thanks!
[EDIT]Samples... never mind I can't post pictures or links so guess I can't show you what I mean.
Happened to me. Clean the lens and it fixed it.
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funlander said:
Happened to me. Clean the lens and it fixed it.
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I have noticed the lens being full of gunk. I need to get a case stat so the camera is slightly recessed. I made sure it was pristine before taking these pictures though...no dice.
solidage said:
I have noticed the lens being full of gunk. I need to get a case stat so the camera is slightly recessed. I made sure it was pristine before taking these pictures though...no dice.
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My pictures come out remarkably "tight" (compared to my old Droid Incredible, especially), but just recently I hit a batch of foggy and blurry pics. I was handling the phone after putting candles on an ice cream cake for a party and accidentally touched the lens when hurrying to capture the moment. Usually, the slim, hardshell case I use effectively keeps junk off the lens - so, I cleaned it with a soft cloth and pictures were back to usually clarity.
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ooofest said:
My pictures come out remarkably "tight" (compared to my old Droid Incredible, especially), but just recently I hit a batch of foggy and blurry pics. I was handling the phone after putting candles on an ice cream cake for a party and accidentally touched the lens when hurrying to capture the moment. Usually, the slim, hardshell case I use effectively keeps junk off the lens - so, I cleaned it with a soft cloth and pictures were back to usually clarity.
- ooofest
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Yeah as I said before I have made a conscious effort to clean the lens. Once I hit 10 posts i'll post samples.
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Yeah as I said before I have made a conscious effort to clean the lens. Once I hit 10 posts i'll post samples.
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After cleaning, have you used a magnifying glass (or similar) to see if anything looks amiss behind the lens glass? I haven't heard of such a defect yet, but I suppose it's possible across the millions of phones made - hope it's something easier to fix in your case, of course.
Or, have you possibly dropped the phone? In this case, I wonder if there's even a hairline fracture on the lens (this is fixable, from a thread I saw where an owner replaced their own lens glass).
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Try a different camera app. Also try a different gallery I have noticed the stock gallery will sometimes not focus in on the pictures. I like the pro capture camera app.
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What did you clean it with exactly? I have that issue where the pictures will be blurry and if I try and clean the lens with my shirt or a simple rag it won't always clean off. Luckily I have a few microfiber cleaning cloths lying around which do wonders for cleaning anything, and work great for cleaning the camera lens too. I got a pack of 8 for like, $5 at walmart and cut them up into 8ths.
Maybe you have shaky hands like me
I had the same problem so I changed the resolution from 8M to W6M and my pictures have been coming out better.
phillysdon04 said:
I had the same problem so I changed the resolution from 8M to W6M and my pictures have been coming out better.
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I tried this but to me they almost looked WORSE...hmm perhaps i'll revisit.
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I tried this but to me they almost looked WORSE...hmm perhaps i'll revisit.
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So, nothing shows up on the lens still or even behind the lens glass?
Have the pictures always been like this?
Are the clarity of pictures the front-facing camera similar?
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x714x said:
Maybe you have shaky hands like me
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turned on stabilization...same.
Need to see some pics. Either post 2 more times or upload to dropbox.
Capturing a picture of a cat and dog can be tough, especially if they have the slightest movement. The question is does pictures of still things come out blurry as well?
Also, did you try setting the focus on face detection for pics of the cat and dog?
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So, nothing shows up on the lens still or even behind the lens glass?
Have the pictures always been like this?
Are the clarity of pictures the front-facing camera similar?
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The front facing one takes fairly crappy pictures too but i chalk that up to the camera on the front being of lesser quality
As soon as I hit my 10 posts i'll post samples but one minute it can take beautiful shots the next it's blurry and awful.
I just cleaned it with some monitor wipes but haven't had a chance to test it at work.
alright, 10th post picture samples incoming!
OK here is an example of a great photo i took outside.
http://imgur.com/LtZRk
here are two pictures i also took outside around the same time of day but they came out awful.
the dog was PERFECTLY still (except his tail when i took these)
http://imgur.com/xt2ga
http://imgur.com/AdsR0
here is another shot i took with the flash and inside...and it looks good. why though are so many coming out blurry and crappy when outside and why is it random?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FfQZGe2mjTk/UGG_38421-I/AAAAAAAADlA/UGVr0G3ncVY/s819/20120924_232738.jpg
In-door shot just taken.
Grainy and horrid...NO FLASH
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1O49WrRnq48/UGHHyKIdPGI/AAAAAAAADlo/rw0uYyyl-G8/s819/12+-+1
Better with flash.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-lqgIfsb3U0Y/UGHJErgSKUI/AAAAAAAADmA/LQaCP9NKW6c/s819/12+-+1
It's almost like the camera isn't getting enough light.
Part of the problem is, you're missing the AF point.
That happens a lot with camera phones, the camera focuses on the background instead of what you intended it to AF on.
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Part of the problem is, you're missing the AF point.
That happens a lot with camera phones, the camera focuses on the background instead of what you intended it to AF on.
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I have tried AF and Macro mode.
Should I remove the protecting thing on the camera of the nexus 5 or will the camera get scrached?
The glass underneath the plastic is recessed so should be OK. That said, you can buy screen protectors with camera covers too.
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The lens is also fairly durable and does not scratch nearly as easily as the screen.
Last, a lens needs to be very scratched up for it to have a significant impact on your pictures.
http://www.digital-photo-secrets.com/tip/1095/does-a-lens-scratch-really-impact-your-photos/
if you have no need to use the camera, you dont need to take it off. but if you do want to use the camera, take the darn thing off! it wont get scratched very easy, believe me. i probably take more photos here than anyone else, on a daily level, and not a scratch on mine. been using since new years. and those screen savers with camera covers, they reduce image quality. personally, im very anal about the quality of the images, and anytrhing that covers or "protects" the camera lens cover will reduce image quality, no matter if it says it doesnt or someone says they dont notice.
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The lens is also fairly durable and does not scratch nearly as easily as the screen.
Last, a lens needs to be very scratched up for it to have a significant impact on your pictures.
http://www.digital-photo-secrets.com/tip/1095/does-a-lens-scratch-really-impact-your-photos/
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I imagine the lens scratches really easily but luckily its actually underneath a layer of glass.
As a keen photographer myself, I only partially agree with the link. Probably wouldn't matter on a device like this but as a general rule it would.
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I decided to remove it guys and it turned out that the plastic thing accualy doesn't cover the lense anyway it covers the HUGE camera becide it :laugh:
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I decided to remove it guys and it turned out that the plastic thing accualy doesn't cover the lense anyway it covers the HUGE camera becide it :laugh:
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Good job. It would just fall off eventually.
Also please remove the IMEI sticker from the back. Some people think it has a purpose or isn't removable for some odd reason.
bblzd said:
Good job. It would just fall off eventually.
Also please remove the IMEI sticker from the back. Some people think it has a purpose or isn't removable for some odd reason.
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Removed it long time ago
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if you have no need to use the camera, you dont need to take it off. but if you do want to use the camera, take the darn thing off! it wont get scratched very easy, believe me. i probably take more photos here than anyone else, on a daily level, and not a scratch on mine. been using since new years. and those screen savers with camera covers, they reduce image quality. personally, im very anal about the quality of the images, and anytrhing that covers or "protects" the camera lens cover will reduce image quality, no matter if it says it doesnt or someone says they dont notice.
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I don't see how taking photos would scratch the lens =P I think it's more of being in your pocket or leaving it on the table with no case on. Also, as OP found out, the plastic has a center opening for the actual camera and only covers everything around it.
@ OP After I RMA'd my phone I kept the plastic on there. However, after getting a dbrand skin that came with a lens covering, I used it to replace the plastic. A lot of skins now come with them, and as @rootSU said you can order transparent ones that probably will stay on the phone better.
Should this be removed it's not affecting shots. But I have a feeling its affecting the heart rate sensor.
I'm leaving mine on.... Both work for me.
I removed the one over flash, the adhesive and heat it becomes sticky. The one over the camera no problem, up to you.
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jambo89liam said:
Should this be removed it's not affecting shots. But I have a feeling its affecting the heart rate sensor.
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I'd recommend you take them off for best performance. Especially for the camera. Another layer of film over the glass will degrade image quality. Also, dust, humidity causing a foggy lens etc, can accumulate around and under the outer layer. That protective plastic is only there for during shipping to protect it so it's in perfect condition when you unbox it. It's not meant to stay on. You will get more hazy, less clear images with that outer plastic layer over the lens. EDIT *Also, that outer layer of plastic will give you more risk of lens flare.
Now, over the heart rate sensor? That's up to you. I'm not certain it if would affect the sensor reading. Since I don't use it, I wouldn't mind leaving it on. But it's such a small surface area to begin with, it would be hard to break. But personally, I want optimal image quality, so that plastic layer comes off for me. Much like I don't use protective UV filters over my DSLR camera lenses. :good:
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I'd recommend you take them off for best performance. Especially for the camera. Another layer of film over the glass will degrade image quality. Also, dust, humidity causing a foggy lens etc, can accumulate around and under the outer layer. That protective plastic is only there for during shipping to protect it so it's in perfect condition when you unbox it. It's not meant to stay on. You will get more hazy, less clear images with that outer plastic layer over the lens. EDIT *Also, that outer layer of plastic will give you more risk of lens flare.
Now, over the heart rate sensor? That's up to you. I'm not certain it if would affect the sensor reading. Since I don't use it, I wouldn't mind leaving it on. But it's such a small surface area to begin with, it would be hard to break. But personally, I want optimal image quality, so that plastic layer comes off for me. Much like I don't use protective UV filters over my DSLR camera lenses. :good:
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I agree (except for the part about UV filters on a DSLR, but that's another subject). It is crappy plastic that they use on the sticker and in no way meant to be used as a protective layer for camera shots.
Great answers my next question, any tips on getting them off I can't get a finger nail under to peel it.
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jambo89liam said:
Great answers my next question, any tips on getting them off I can't get a finger nail under to peel it.
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Ha, had the same problem. Keep trying with your finger nail. You'll eventually get it. Best not to use anything else that could risk scratching it such as a needle, tweezers, filer etc. Just keep at it with your nail. :fingers-crossed:
I'd remove the one on the heartrate sensor but you can keep the one on the camera as the camera lens itself is not covered by it!
It has a hole where the lens is.
So image quality does not suffer!
I actually removed both but as I found out the one on the camera actually has a hole for the lens I carefully placed it back on there.
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the camera as the camera lens itself is not covered by it!
It has a hole where the lens is.
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Your totally right just ran my nail over it, the lens itself it not covered.
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whitepaw said:
I'd remove the one on the heartrate sensor but you can keep the one on the camera as the camera lens itself is not covered by it!
It has a hole where the lens is.
So image quality does not suffer!
I actually removed both but as I found out the one on the camera actually has a hole for the lens I carefully placed it back on there.
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Both my wife's S6 and my S6 had no hole. We have T-Mobile variants. Hmmm, very interesting.
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Both my wife's S6 and my S6 had no hole. We have T-Mobile variants. Hmmm, very interesting.
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I have a T-Mobile Germany one which has the hole. It's only covering the glass around the lens here.
It's the edge here. Maybe it differs between edge and normal S6?
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I have a T-Mobile Germany one which has the hole. It's only covering the glass around the lens here.
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I should have mentioned U.S. T-Mobile versions in my last post. I could have very well quickly taken them off and not realize there was a hole....and now thinking back I just don't remember.
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I should have mentioned U.S. T-Mobile versions in my last post. I could have very well quickly taken them off and not realize there was a hole....and now thinking back I just don't remember.
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Have tmobile us version and has hole.
To take those pieces off, use a piece of tape over and peel off.
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Bloody hell I scratched the glass aa bbit over the bottom sensor below the flash. What is that sensor for and will it be affected?
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Bloody hell I scratched the glass aa bbit over the bottom sensor below the flash. What is that sensor for and will it be affected?
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Heart rate, and probably not unless the scratch is huge.
sticky tape works best when I removed mine
Just noticed that when things are in the top portion of the picture with the camera tilted down slightly things get distorted. It makes heads oblong and alien looking. Wondering if other people have this same issue or if it's just my phone. So it's really a question of whether the phone is being exchanged or returned.
I've attached two pics. When the tv is in the top portion of the pic it looks a lot taller than when it's in the center of the pic. Both pics were taken from the same distance at the same zoom amount.
Did you take the plastic film off the lens that comes from the factory?
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Did you take the plastic film off the lens that comes from the factory?
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I was gonna say the same! Although mine lately has not been focusing at all unless i shake it. View is immediately blurry, but up close to something it is fine. Like it is stuck in close up. Shake it and seems good. This is before ROOT and playing around. Any ideas?
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Did you take the plastic film off the lens that comes from the factory?
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Did you have a plastic film on your camera? I had one over the fingerprint sensor but if there is one on my camera it's near impossible to detect, I feel like I'm just scratching at the glass although my fingernail is definitely catching on something. I just cant tell if it's the edge of the glass for the camera or a film covering it.
i had the same issue so i boiled my kettle, and held the phone above it after it boiled and let the steam peel the lense sticker.
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Did you have a plastic film on your camera? I had one over the fingerprint sensor but if there is one on my camera it's near impossible to detect, I feel like I'm just scratching at the glass although my fingernail is definitely catching on something. I just cant tell if it's the edge of the glass for the camera or a film covering it.
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If you had the plastic on it, you'd know it. It was very noticeable on mine.
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If you had the plastic on it, you'd know it. It was very noticeable on mine.
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I really can't tell if it's there, if it is it lines up almost perfectly. It isn't causing me issues for now though so I'm not going to mess with it.
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I really can't tell if it's there, if it is it lines up almost perfectly. It isn't causing me issues for now though so I'm not going to mess with it.
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You would notice in the center of the lens. The plastic would have a cut. Once it's off, the lens is perfectly flat across the top.
The plastic was still on, but no change in distortion taking it off. I'm guessing the cutout in the center of the plastic makes it so it doesn't impact photos.
So I tested on my computer monitor and am able to somewhat replicate what is happening in your shots. However, this distortion is natural because you're tilting the camera downwards on its axis. Its called perspective lens distortion and is common to all cameras without a tilt shift lens (a lens that costs several thousand dollars). You should be able to replicate the effect with any camera phone.
Yeah I've noticed distortion in other cameras but it's just not so extreme. On the s6 the distortion makes any pics with the subject on the edge ridiculous and unusable.
I think I've narrowed it down to when the s6 is set up to shoot max resolution at 16:9. When I switch it to 4:3 the distortion is pretty much gone since that distorted area is just cropped out but that reduces it from 16mp to 12mp. Other phone cameras I've had (moto x 2nd gen and s3) crop the other way (max resolution at 4:3 and then crop to get 16:9).
So the s6 presumably has a 16:9 sensor where the others had 4:3. But the extra width is pretty much unusable.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. What's the point of having a 16mp camera if you can only effectively use 12mp?
Any update on this? I was hoping there's a post processing software in Android/Windows/OSX that can compensate for the lens distortion even though it'll reduced the resolution a bit. I have a AT&T Galaxy S6.
I tried DXO Optics Pro 8, and it works very good for shots from my Nikon D7000 to un-alienize the faces, but there are no modules for the Galaxy S6 lens.