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Hi Everyone -
I have used the HTC touch PRO for about 3 weeks now and I have to say it is FULL of bugs . Can you guys confirm or deny this:
1. If the phone is set to vibrate, it will go back to "RING" after a single call. Meaning if someone calls me once, it will go back to RING. This also happens if the ringer is set to Vibrate and Ring also.
2. When you make a call using the "dial pad", the "dial pad" disappears very quickly and goes to the main screen. Then you have to hit the DIAL button and then KEYPAD to get it back. It is very annoying when you call your bank or an airline where you have to go through a series of promts like entering your ID numbers, pins, etc.
3. The camera seems to come on sometimes by just touching the screen.
4. If you have multiple numbers associated with a contact (home, work, mobile etc), it shows one number when dialed. For example, when I dial my friends HOME number, it dials the home number correctly, but on the display it shows the MOBILE number being dialed.
5. Unable to send a CONTACT's info by SMS directly from the CONTACTS page. It will send a MMS but not a SMS. THis is when someone asks for a phone number of a person and you just want to send it automatically from your phone book.
I am sure there are other bugs also, but the above are the most annoying as hell.
I want to make sure this is with everyone or just my phone!
Thank you
hey,idk how helpful this willbe but it seems like these phones str8 out of the box are having problems...ive read that a hard reset will get rid of some of the unwanted bugs...you may try that
1. Just tested and after call vibrating stayed on.
2. The keypad goes away but not to the home screen. So all I have to do is hit on key, keypad to get back to it.
3. never had that happen.
4. Confirmed. Seems to default to the first number stored maybe??
5. Confirmed. Most likely because it is sending the vcard or something as an attachment???
zalez said:
1. Just tested and after call vibrating stayed on.
2. The keypad goes away but not to the home screen. So all I have to do is hit on key, keypad to get back to it.
3. never had that happen.
4. Confirmed. Seems to default to the first number stored maybe??
5. Confirmed. Most likely because it is sending the vcard or something as an attachment???
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My experience is the same with the Verizon branded TP2.
#5 It sends it as vCard attachement.
I Just open the contact info to edit then copy and past it into SMS.
Returning TP2 tomorrow
Used the TP2 for 3 weeks;
1. Screen clicks when touched, guess the slider hinge is loose;
2. Set vibrate then ring, keeps going back to ring only everytime the phone is powered off and back on, (standby on); this is the mode I use often, not to annoy people in meetings, and not to miss calls;
3. Cant set screen dim time to more than 10seconds, it dims after 10seconds no matter what the settting is;
4. Internet brower lunch from home gets stuck randomly, have to hit end go back to home, then internet again;
5. GPS performance with Sprint Navigation is much worse than Touch; It takes much longer to lock, and it lose GPS often; Maybe a software thing, Google map seems to work fine.
Non of the bugs are serious, but very annoying! The phone is too big, too heavy, too expensive ($349 from Sprint)! Miss the dial pad; The only good thing is the beautiful screen.
Hopefuly WM6.5 upgrade will fix these, but dont want to get stuck with waiting for the upgrade, I've just re-activated my old touch, and returning TP2 tomorrow.
You can add the issue of not being able to keep static IP's assigned to the network adapter for use while in your workplace or business, and then when not in the workplace haveing the ability to use sprints data services. In otherwords everything has to be dynamic. If you want to use static ip's while in range of wifi, you have to clear it out when you leave the wifi spot in order to use regular evdo.
gps is fast and accurate
fast if you disable touch flo and use mobile shell
Another bug
When viewing NFL mobile, after about two minutes into showing something, the phone reboots itself. Quite annoyin'!
arifiano said:
Hi Everyone -
I have used the HTC touch PRO for about 3 weeks now and I have to say it is FULL of bugs . Can you guys confirm or deny this:
1. If the phone is set to vibrate, it will go back to "RING" after a single call. Meaning if someone calls me once, it will go back to RING. This also happens if the ringer is set to Vibrate and Ring also.
2. When you make a call using the "dial pad", the "dial pad" disappears very quickly and goes to the main screen. Then you have to hit the DIAL button and then KEYPAD to get it back. It is very annoying when you call your bank or an airline where you have to go through a series of promts like entering your ID numbers, pins, etc.
3. The camera seems to come on sometimes by just touching the screen.
4. If you have multiple numbers associated with a contact (home, work, mobile etc), it shows one number when dialed. For example, when I dial my friends HOME number, it dials the home number correctly, but on the display it shows the MOBILE number being dialed.
5. Unable to send a CONTACT's info by SMS directly from the CONTACTS page. It will send a MMS but not a SMS. THis is when someone asks for a phone number of a person and you just want to send it automatically from your phone book.
I am sure there are other bugs also, but the above are the most annoying as hell.
I want to make sure this is with everyone or just my phone!
Thank you
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1. I've heard of this happening after soft reset but it doesn't happen on my phone
2.Works perfectly fine on mine, all you do is hit the 'Keypad' button and it should stay up. if you end up at the home screen hit 'phone' and then keypad and you should be good....do you have a dialer skin on it?
3.Never happens for me
4. haven't tried, i don't have any contacts with multiple numbers
5. haven't tried but i usually just copy/paste phone numbers for sms
definitely try hard reset. and if it's got a warranty or anything like that you still have the option to return/exchange it
well speak of the devil my phone started showing some of these symptoms later in the evening and now even worse when i make calls i can hear people talking but they can hear me
a hard reset fixed it but when i restore my backup files it goes back to messing up so maybe it's one of the tweaks i ran?
is there a way to use sprite mobile to only restore contacts/sms? that's all i really need i'll think i'll hold off on the tweaks and just wait for the HSPL unlocker
Hope these problems are all fixed when the HardSPL is released.
As for now, I am holding my breath waiting to see if the gps problem is fixed on a new rom, waiting to buy this phone.
abuttino said:
Hope these problems are all fixed when the HardSPL is released.
As for now, I am holding my breath waiting to see if the gps problem is fixed on a new rom, waiting to buy this phone.
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yeah, the real messed up part is verizon is out of stock with the phone. i went to a verizon store but they couldn't even replace it for me. i think the people over there are retarted cuz i've known it was out of stock but the dudes at the store didnt know and the guy they had me talking to on the phone didn't even know they didn't sell them in stores!
'you'll probably get the imaggio isntead it's the upgrade of your phone'...no stupid i need a keyboard
mine keeps switching from Ring and Vibrate to Ring as well
The phone interface totally sux! Is there anything better out there? When I get a call I have to drag the thing over to answer. This is very hard to do with 1 hand. Also half the time the screen goes black and I have to unlock it or whatever. Is there any way to just tap to answer?
Making calls is 10 times worse, you have to unlock the phone, find the phone app, open your contacts, tap your contact, tap make call, and then tap call!! It’s like I have to type a freaking paragraph just to make a call! Is there any way to just press one button to open the phone and then press 1 button to speed dial??
Also I turned on Google Voice to make all my calls. It nice and I know how to turn that off, but now all my incoming calls it says "incoming call from so-and-so... Press 1 to accept" so I have to tape the dial pad, and then tap 1, adding 2 more taps just to answer a freaking call! How do I turn that off?
I love everything else about this PDA, but the phone sux! Please help...
---signed, frustrated
P.S. I think I used less key strokes typing all this than I need to to make a call! lol
Any chance they will improve this interface in v2.2??
Very constructive. And I see it’s your 11th post. It’s not a matter of being impatient. It’s a matter of missing calls because its nearly impossible to do while driving, walking a dog with a leash in one hand, caring groceries, almost every real life situation that keeps you from using both hands on your phone. And as I described it’s a lot more than the 1 swipe.
If you don’t agree with me you don’t need to reply but I find the swipe open to be unacceptable and I'm asking if there is another interface out there that is just a tap open. Or a way to map a hard key to answer the freaking phone!
I'm sitting here at my work phone calling myself over and over to "practice" answering with the swipe. I can do it with one hand but it’s a pain in the ass and just thoroughly a really, really bad design. There has to be an app or mod or something that does away with this.
I just saw the new "Rule the air" Droid commercial. Cool commercial... Notice the one thing they didn’t show anyone doing? Getting or making a call!!!
All these new devices are fantastic PDAs with a really bad phone function slapped on top...
BTW with an 2.2 Froyo official release or rom, when the call comes up theres no need to unlock or swipe, just a click of a button.
What are you running 2.1, 2.01/0 or 2.2? Why don't you try finding an app on the store or searching here? You never know....
So I literally called myself 10 times and practiced answering the phone with one hand. Then I went out to bars and got actual calls and it was like impossible to answer them. That drag thing is just ridicules!! You have to drag it all the way across the screen!! Cany they at least meet me half way?? Even with 2 hands it’s hard to answer!!
Come on, you guys all know this is true. This design is just awful!
I understand why they did it, so when you get a call while it’s in your pocket it doesn’t tap against something and answer when you don’t know it… but it’s just terrible!! And like I said making calls is even worse. It’s like a ton of taps so there is no way to make a call while driving.
The Bluetooth headset would help but we all know anyone that actually uses that looks like a total D-bag..
So here is my solution… Someone will make a killing on this and it will make a mockery of the Android phone interface at the same time. We need a little, lightweight Bluetooth dumb phone that has physical answer and hang-up buttons as well as the full number pad that you can assign speed dials too like a NORMAL F-ING PHONE!! If this was out there on the market I would pay $100 easy for! Leave your brilliant PDA that sucks as a phone in your pocket and use the Bluetooth handset to actually make and take calls like a normal human!!
1. how tiny are your hands that you can't slide the bar down with your thumb?
2. i think there's an app called dialer one that will open a keypad where you can see all your contacts and spell their names out with the numberpad to make it easier
Just because some of you don't have the same issues as the OP doesn't give any of us the right to respond in this manner.
The OP has been called dumb, amateur, told he shouldn't have a smartphone; and the list goes on.
I personally have the EVO; there's not a damn thing wrong with my hands and I come from a very long time of smartphones. MORE times than I can count, I'm swiping the screen and not a damned thing is moving. By the time it unlocks, the caller is gone.
So until you have the same problem, some of you might want to get your head out the clouds and stop replying like these *smart* phones are perfect and the people using them are too dumb to know what they're doing.
On HTC phones with Sense you simply press a button to answer. No swiping. I'm surprised there's no app out there to do this on other Android phones.
Just cleaned this thread. All deleted posts are in violation of rule 2.
Please be aware of the rules before posting. Nothing constructive to say; then don't post!
WB
gtg465x said:
On HTC phones with Sense you simply press a button to answer. No swiping. I'm surprised there's no app out there to do this on other Android phones.
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I have to slide to answer my phone if it's locked before I get a call. I prefer the swipe because I don't want to accidentally answer a call while the phone is in my pocket. That said, I would recommend the op check out the app I mentioned or root his phone and find a sense based rom
there are apps for this kind of problem search market and google
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On HTC phones with Sense you simply press a button to answer. No swiping. I'm surprised there's no app out there to do this on other Android phones.
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Do not be surprised, because there is an app to achieve this. It is called ed's Droid Tools.
I've used Gesture Search (by Google) since it was released on the Market for finding and calling and/or texting my contacts. Put it on your home screen, then when you want to call somebody, open Gesture Search then write their first initial with your finger (or thumb) then touch the phone icon to call or the message icon to text. Works well for me. Never tried it driving, but then again, I'm one of those guys who yells at idiots who drive and talk on their cell at the same time (it's illegal here).
The standard Droid UI doesn't have a skin, so you get the basic Android dialer. While I don't think the slide-to-answer is all that bad, I'm also coming from a Blackberry Storm, which was wicked-terrible when it came to doing... well anything, so I don't complain much about the stock android experience. One thing Android is good for though, is allowing UI replacement apps (ala Dialer One) so poke around the Market and I'm sure you can find something that changes the answer experience for you.
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Droid9 said:
The phone interface totally sux! Is there anything better out there? When I get a call I have to drag the thing over to answer. This is very hard to do with 1 hand. Also half the time the screen goes black and I have to unlock it or whatever. Is there any way to just tap to answer?
Making calls is 10 times worse, you have to unlock the phone, find the phone app, open your contacts, tap your contact, tap make call, and then tap call!! It’s like I have to type a freaking paragraph just to make a call! Is there any way to just press one button to open the phone and then press 1 button to speed dial??
Also I turned on Google Voice to make all my calls. It nice and I know how to turn that off, but now all my incoming calls it says "incoming call from so-and-so... Press 1 to accept" so I have to tape the dial pad, and then tap 1, adding 2 more taps just to answer a freaking call! How do I turn that off?
I love everything else about this PDA, but the phone sux! Please help...
---signed, frustrated
P.S. I think I used less key strokes typing all this than I need to to make a call! lol
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hey dude
to help you out with your dialing problem all you have to do is put the phone/contacts app on your homescreen. the way you described calling the contact is the same way you'd have to do it on almost every other phone so don't act like its a huge task.
organize your homescreens to your preference so that it could make your life easier.
also you can add people to your favorites list so you dont have to scroll through your whole contact list.
as for answering calls, its not that bad. you just gotta hold that green button and slide your finger over. I don't understand how that's difficult or why you'd need practice
phone doesn't suck at all bud
Hi There,
I was thinking of getting one of those because most of my calling during driving...
do you advice me to do so? i mean is the hardware bad? or it is just a matter of waiting for sometime to get an update solving all these problems?
Thank you in advance.
2 Simple Questions - Making Default Numbers / Launcher Pro
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Can anyone help with two questions, that are probably simple to most here. I am pretty much a Newb.
1 Launcher Pro...I love what I see so far. a good change.. goes back to the vertical apps in the app page, scrolling dock...
But my page goes blank, phone vibrates, haptic, and it stays off for a while, even after I relaunch With Home Launcher APP. The maker says it has nothing to do with the settings that , if misused, could set it into unstable mode? Might you have an idea?? It clearly didn't do this on mine, or any vibrant I have seen to this date.
2. MOST IMPORTANTLY, it was explained how to use the "set as default" for a phone number for a Contact. However it doesnot seem to be working. It is mainly used for Speed Dial...correct? When u goto enter a name that has had a default number set, when u hit speed dial for that phone, or an app (if u r phone does not have it) then that contacts (default) number SHOULD be put in..correct. It should not ask you which one. Well I have done the default thing, YET it is still asking me.
Can you help. Can anyone. Mainly cause I am using it . Also I want to make sure I understand
To get a number into a speed dial Locacation. I had to delete the number i DID NOT want, enter the name, then reenter the number I deleted into my contacts phone numbers. Wow
Thanks so much
Owned this phone for bout a week and been constantly playing with it and love everything bout it except the phone/dialing feature....coming from a blackberry, the phone/dialing just makes sense and works. Couple gripes I'm having:
1. Speed dial, I can't by default just hit 2 or 3 but I have to click off the "X" above the number pad before I can use speed dial. If I just long press 2, it would still think i'm trying to dial out a number and not speed dial.
2. In the same "phone" screen they have recently dialed incoming/outgoing calls but it just shows a picture or no picture depending if I have them, but they don't show the numbers. I have to use the optical pad to scroll though to show the number, I can't even you my finger to swype through cause it will automatically dial the number without me knowing who i'm dialing specially if I have no picture or number.
3. The "Faves" is kinda redundant cause it shows the recently dialed people same as the "Call Log". I know you can put your favorite people on the top list but still...kinda redundant.
4. I can start dialing a users name via the dial pad and it would find the person I'm looking for, what happens when that contact has multiple numbers, if I click on the contact from what it found via dialing his name in the dial pad it would just dial the cell number; won't give me options to dial his home, work etc. Just dials the cell number by default.
This is just some of the stuff I can point out right now. But its just not very intuitive and I have to go through multiple taps just to find someone, dial someone in my contacts or know where to look before I can dial out.
If there is an app for the phone that I can use to replace the built in "phone" feature, that would be great. Just not crazy bout how the Phone feature which should be the most important feature on a "smartphone" is so poorly layed out.
Thanks for any info....
I agree the mySense phone app is not the greatest, and probably stock froyo app is bit easier to use.
What about the speed dial, you you can hit menu on your home screen, than add to home/ shortcut / direct dial - choose contact - choose phone number . It will creat a speed dial icon on the home screen. Also you can create a folder and group them, like "Work" "Family" etc.
I like the phone/contacts application much better in what Cyanogen has in his ROM. It's simple and super fast, the one included with our phone is complicated and clunky.
I need to add that to my list, not a deal breaker, but definitely needs an overhaul.
Nutzzer said:
Owned this phone for bout a week and been constantly playing with it and love everything bout it except the phone/dialing feature....coming from a blackberry, the phone/dialing just makes sense and works. Couple gripes I'm having:
1. Speed dial, I can't by default just hit 2 or 3 but I have to click off the "X" above the number pad before I can use speed dial. If I just long press 2, it would still think i'm trying to dial out a number and not speed dial.
2. In the same "phone" screen they have recently dialed incoming/outgoing calls but it just shows a picture or no picture depending if I have them, but they don't show the numbers. I have to use the optical pad to scroll though to show the number, I can't even you my finger to swype through cause it will automatically dial the number without me knowing who i'm dialing specially if I have no picture or number.
3. The "Faves" is kinda redundant cause it shows the recently dialed people same as the "Call Log". I know you can put your favorite people on the top list but still...kinda redundant.
4. I can start dialing a users name via the dial pad and it would find the person I'm looking for, what happens when that contact has multiple numbers, if I click on the contact from what it found via dialing his name in the dial pad it would just dial the cell number; won't give me options to dial his home, work etc. Just dials the cell number by default.
This is just some of the stuff I can point out right now. But its just not very intuitive and I have to go through multiple taps just to find someone, dial someone in my contacts or know where to look before I can dial out.
If there is an app for the phone that I can use to replace the built in "phone" feature, that would be great. Just not crazy bout how the Phone feature which should be the most important feature on a "smartphone" is so poorly layed out.
Thanks for any info....
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I cannot recreate any of your problems on my phone dialer.
Speed Dial can be achieved easily two different ways. In the phone app, select menu and speed dial. Add new will be at the top of the screen. Select from contacts and choose a speed dial number. Long pressing on that number, regardless of what is in the screen above (blank number or last call) will dial the contact attached to that speed dial number.
Another method is to long press on the number while editing a contact and selecting speed dial.
The 'last call' at the top of the dialer should always show at least the number,unless it was blocked.
Faves is the same as Favorites on the vanilla dialer. Put your favoite called numbers here. It is a lot quicker than using contacts. I hate the faves app but the dialer function is fine. As far as the recent calls, those are actually the most frequently called numbers and you can set that to just one by pressing menu>edit smart group and selecting the number of members.
Your number four is quite fixable. If the contact has multiple number, it will dial the Primary one, which you can choose the first time you call a contact. Alternatively, you can press on the icon on the right side that looks like a contact card. It pulls up the contact and you can select a number from there.
I prefer the vanilla or CM dialer much better myself but because CM does not have a ROM that works for me yet (the phone app does not work for me) I learned all I could about the only stock alternative.
Hope this helps.
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This is just some of the stuff I can point out right now. But its just not very intuitive and I have to go through multiple taps just to find someone, dial someone in my contacts or know where to look before I can dial out.
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Also...
To search contacts you have to tap the spyglass. WTF? Why isn't the search field just there?
Each entry in the contacts is too tall. Give me the option to make it thinner. In the taller entry, add some information, such as shown in the My contact card, the default phone # for instance.
Favs is worthless. Allow me to dump it.
In the phone, I *do* like the 'start typing out a name' but it would be nice to be able to long press to pick the #, as someone said. At least it does something useful (mostly. Add to Faves is pointless).
DO NOT always show the last caller or callee at the top. That can be nice, or it can be embarassing.
Allow me to delete all of a certain # from my call log, not just individual iterations. At least this phone doesn't redial the last # all the time like my friend's iPhone does, and my other friend's MyTouch (plain version).
However, it redials too easily. So if I talked to my folks earlier and then at night I'm getting this post ready and they are asleep and the damn thing redials, well, that's bad.
If I start tapping out a number, let me edit it, say using the trackpad. C'mon, this is obvious!
And while playing with this, it got stuck in Searching contacts. And if I want to dial a number, how do I do that? At the top, Save to People. No number displayed, no people icons. Enter name or number/Tap to see smart dial tips. WTF? Time to reboot or something.
How about a remapping genius to search (as it should have been) and long-press on search brings up phone? Or something. I hate how with a normal POS phone I can dial. With this I have to go to the home screen or unlock the screen & log in, then press a button, then finally I can call.
I use Quickdial for my contacts that I call quite a bit. Nice app and allows 36 contacts.
I personally do not like the built in dialer. It is rather clunky to use witht he buttons on the bottom and if hands are rather large, it gets tricky sometimes hitting the phone button and the call button.
Have not found a good replacement yet.
I started using "Dialer One" and I like it better than the build in dialer. Its simple and it works...not the best but better. Also, started using Google Voicemail so everything pretty much works the way its supposed to now.
This is my first Android phone, and my experience is so far ok, but kinda annoying that I need to research, investigate and try out a dialer just to make the phone work.
I also like Dialer One and use it as both a dialer and address book replacement. If you set it to show your favorite contacts on the default screen there's minimal clicking. It also supports using your background image, pretty cool.
I hate the stupid Faves feature of the phone as well. Especially for SMS. Why does it need to explicitly notify me that one of my Faves messaged me? The new message notification by itself is sufficient.
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And while playing with this, it got stuck in Searching contacts. And if I want to dial a number, how do I do that? At the top, Save to People. No number displayed, no people icons. Enter name or number/Tap to see smart dial tips.
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Ah joy, it seems I found a bug. I reported it to T-Mobile, they gave me a # for HTC and I'll try pursuing that (if someone has a bugreporting URL for them...). My phone is perm-rooted, I'm not running (gasp, the horrors) a task killer.
Go to Phone (home screen, press picture of phone). You should see your last call at the top.
Tap out some numbers, say 55555.
Decide you wish to edit those numbers (the 2nd 5 should be a 5) and use the trackpad to move over to the left.
Unexpected behavior: it moves to Faves, then Contacts.
OK, fine, no biggie, now use the trackpad to move back to Phone.
Bug 1: Notice there is no number displayed and it says at the top that you have matches for n of your contacts where n is the total number of your contacts. Apparently the number typed is lost. Sucks but minor.
Bug 2 (often, not always): Tap out another number. Note that often (usually for me) you can not see any number. I believe it also shows that I'm still matching all of my contacts (it isn't reproducing for me currently).
I wonder if anyone else can see this, or if my phone (or if I got confused. It happened after rebooting as well, but isn't happening now.
Hi,
my father works as an ambulance officer has to talk a lot to the emergency coordination center while on duty. To call the guys there he uses (and is allowed to) the emergency number 112 (we live in Germany).
To speed up the dialing process he would like to have a speeddial shortcut to the emergency number 112. (Shortcut on the homescreen, tap, it starts dialing imediately)
As this works quite easy and perfect with other numbers, I could not find a way to get this to work with the emergency number. It seems like some restriction or "protection" that prevents it from dialing directly. Instead of dialing directly it just opens up the dialer and thats it.
His One S is 100% stock, no custom-rom or root.
Any advice on this?
bl4cKz4cK said:
Hi,
my father works as an ambulance officer has to talk a lot to the emergency coordination center while on duty. To call the guys there he uses (and is allowed to) the emergency number 112 (we live in Germany).
To speed up the dialing process he would like to have a speeddial shortcut to the emergency number 112. (Shortcut on the homescreen, tap, it starts dialing imediately)
As this works quite easy and perfect with other numbers, I could not find a way to get this to work with the emergency number. It seems like some restriction or "protection" that prevents it from dialing directly. Instead of dialing directly it just opens up the dialer and thats it.
His One S is 100% stock, no custom-rom or root.
Any advice on this?
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Hmm sounds like it's probably a preventative measure so people don't accidentally dial emergency from pocket all the time. That's just an assumption.
Have you tried adding a contact with that number and creating a dial shortcut to the contact? Or maybe a 3rd party app such as Go Locker or Widget Locker will allow it...give it a shot, I'll let ya know if I think of any other ways. Try using this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=galDude.Development.DushiCall&hl=en and adding the widget to one of the Locker apps I mentioned.
I'll try that out and will let you know if it worked.
Back again, after I did some testing. I tried a lot of free widgets and apps and this one comes closest to what I was looking for. It is still not possible to get it dial directly after tapping on the widget, but at least it takes me to the dialer where the desired number is already suggested and one more tap away from dialing. Not perfect but my dad is happy with it.
Still very odd that it seems to be restricted by the operating system itself (or something HTC did with its sense dialer)