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Problems in my pocket!

Apologies if this question has been asked and answered before, but if so, could someone please redirect me. This is my first time on this forum. I've had my HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) for a couple of months now, and cannot get round the problem that whenever I receive a call, I somehow manage to cut it off before I can get the phone out of my pocket. I have tried several different cases (the current one opens like a book, so doesn't press any of the buttons), but something happens in the process of removing the phone from my pocket, however gently and swiftly I try to do it, which means that all I get is a "missed call" message, even after only one ring. If the phone is on a flat surface, it will ring for a long time, so it's not that setting. This is SO frustrating, especially when you try to see who called you, and it just comes up with "unknown caller".... it's also costing me a lot of money having to phone people back when I do know who they are. Please help somebody. I really like my little phone, but it may well end up being thrown out of a window at this rate! Thank you!

Check out this utility here on XDA. Works great. Unlock the phone by rolling it over. It uses the gravity sensor.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871

Many thanks for that. We've installed this thread, although I'm not really clear about what it does. It seems I can now lock and unlock the phone by turning it clockwise and counterclockwise respectively along its axis (in addition to the long press, which is what I usually use to lock the phone).
I tried answering one call whilst it was locked, but couldn't free it up to press the "answer" key until I had turned it several times. Fortunately, the caller was quite patient! Is this just a technique I have to get used to, and will it mean that I get a chance to answer calls before the connection is severed? Sorry to sound so thick, but this is all very new to me.

Sarahah said:
Many thanks for that. We've installed this thread, although I'm not really clear about what it does. It seems I can now lock and unlock the phone by turning it clockwise and counterclockwise respectively along its axis (in addition to the long press, which is what I usually use to lock the phone).
I tried answering one call whilst it was locked, but couldn't free it up to press the "answer" key until I had turned it several times. Fortunately, the caller was quite patient! Is this just a technique I have to get used to, and will it mean that I get a chance to answer calls before the connection is severed? Sorry to sound so thick, but this is all very new to me.
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Go to the settings menu and edit your SensorLock preferences to lock the screen only on an incoming call thus leaving the buttons unlocked.

Maybe the "face down mute" is happening to your calls? Try disabling it.

Um..... how?

answer keys disabler
You the thread below, it disables the onscreen answer buttons while ringing. Helps me getting the phone outta my pocket when ringing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425650

Ooooh. Thank you. Sounds like just what I need ... watch this space!

if u want to thrown your htc trough windows, how about if u thrown it to my window bro.

HHumbert said:
Check out this utility here on XDA. Works great. Unlock the phone by rolling it over. It uses the gravity sensor.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422871
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Gravity sensor... I ever seen this technology on nokia phone. but until now I'm still amazed by this technology. how this sensor works..
sorry 4 my english cause I'm from asia

Ah Dedy - if I win the lottery I shall come and throw a brand new Touch Pro through your window, I promise! I'm afraid that I'm having far too much fun with this one (despite the problems in my pocket) to part with it just yet though. Hope you have a great Christmas, and maybe Santa will bring you one, you never know!

LG KS660 Dual Sim / Dual Standby first impression

Ok so right off the bat I'm not a professional phone reviewer. This is just me talking about a phone I'm excited about... I didn't post any pictures as I didn't take any yet, but I'm very pleased with the look and you can find plenty online.
So I've spent the last two weeks researching and looking for a good dual sim phone, with dual standby capability. Before I start, without a dual standby capability a dual sim phone doesn't let you take a call from one number, while you are talking on your other number.
This phone is the international version and is a triband 900/1800/1900 - as always be sure your service provider runs on the band before you buy a phone. It also has to separate IMIE numbers as well.
[This next paragraph is for entertainment only, so feel free to skip to the next one if you're not interested in a very good prank.]
I ordered this phone from Amazon and chose overnight shipping. Needless to say I've not been excited about a phone for a very long time, but this time I was. Unfortunately the last update was that it was checked into Memphis, which has all flights grounded. So, the 2nd day I check the tracking and I see that it's out for delivery, I hop in my car and start the 40 minute drive to my office to pick it up. 3 minutes out my manager calls me and tells me "it just arrived"... I arrive and I open my shipping box, upset that it's late but happy it's here. I pull out the phone box and open it up... only to see some piece of crap prepaid ancient mini brick phone. I instantly flip my lid, and for a split second I considered just snapping this piece of crap in half. I then dump the box contents on the floor, and then realize there is a group of people in tears laughing. Turns out my best friend cut the packing box open (from the bottom as not to damage the label) and put his crap phone in it. Anyways, on to my thoughts...
[Appearance] So, when I pull the phone out it's really quite nice looking. It has the shape and appearance of an Iphone, but it has the 4 hard buttons at the bottom. One nice thing comparing it again to the Iphone is that not everyone and their dog has one of these. Very slim form and smaller overall than the Iphone. I have not taken pictures yet, and have not completely tested it overall but I have already decided that it was well worth the $260 ($230 from another seller, but I paid the extra $30 for piece of mind).
The first thing I do is pair it with my windows mobile Smartphone and I then beam over all of my contacts. The windows mobile phone just sends them all, but I had to hit accept for every single file. Tedious, but much easier than actually re-entering them in by hand. After that I had to enter into the file explorer and choose reload for about 90% of them (one by one again). In the end they all transferred over, with attached photos. The only thing that didn't transfer was the ringtone assignments.
[Call Quality] Once I was able to get outside of work hours I placed both my personal and work sims inside the phone. I've tested it like crazy just on calls alone. First, the speaker phone is WAY louder and much more clear than my HTC Fuze (Raphael). In addition the call quality when not on speaker phone is quite nice as well. There were times when I thought I dropped the call because there wasn't that light hiss in the background. Next I tried calling out on the sim. When you dial a number, just to the right there are a couple of boxes and you just touch the sim you want and whalla, you're calling out on that sim. It also had no problem taking calls from one line while on the other. It's just like call waiting. The only negative to it is that the icon which identifies the sim is very small and in the top left of the incoming call, so it's somewhat hard to tell which line is ringing. Although I predict I will get quite used to it.
The touch screen is very responsive and is actually fairly easy to negotiate around with just using your fingers. The speed of the phone is nearly instant in everything you do, outside of accessing memory to change a ringtone or something (super slow). Granted I have a crapload of photos and ringtones on my microSD card.
[Features] It has some pretty cool features within the simple operating system. There are 4 hard buttons on the bottom, and 4 soft buttons at the bottom of the touch screen. The hard buttons are useful and make sense. The screen buttons are also good. There is one button on the bottom right that opens up a new menu on the right side of the screen. This menu has 4 long buttons that let you easily access everything you need within the phone. In addition there is a little rounded tab at the right side of the screen when you are in idle mode. The first tab allows you to access your "widgets" You can just drag them and drop them right onto the desktop, or drag them right back in. Out of the box the widgets are as follows: FM radio, round old school clock, Calendar, music, photos, world time, memo notes, missed calls, messages, and schedule. Really neat in that you can just place them where you want, and they all come out small but expand into the full featured widget. At the idle screen you can also slide your finger either right or left, and it makes the screen flip as if it was a cube. Your widget menu has not been replaced by a speed dial menu. Press any icon from 2-9 (1 reserved for Vmail) and it lets you choose a contact to associate. You can then drag that icon right onto the desktop of the phone as well. Overall very cool features so far.
The locking mechanism is quite nice as well. You can either unlock with a short hold on a key on the screen, or the lock key on the right side of the phone. About the only negative so far is that there isn't a slide to unlock, and you press the hard keys to answer or decline. I know at some point I will accidentally answer or decline someone while pulling the phone out of a full pocket.
Next onto the camera. 5M camera with a crapload of image settings. While the quality isn't nearly as good as my high end digital camera, it shares many of the same features. It has an LED flash, and you can really play around with the settings (assuming you are a camera buff, otherwise most will just confuse you). It lets you take quick action photos in sets of 3, 6, or 9 in fast succession too. it also has a video camera, but I didn't test it as of yet.
It has an FM radio which needs to have the dual earphone wired headset hooked up to it to use (typical). The headset of course has a microphone also for those of you who think talking on Bluetooth was invented by the "debil". (That's some high quality H20).
The PC suite that comes with it is pretty nice so far also. When you connect the phone you can choose between 4 options. One can be a music sync for all the music lovers out there, but my presumed favorite is that you can use the phone as a modem with the provided software (not tested yet). You can connect to your PC via USB or Bluetooth. I only wish my work computer would allow for me to install software! Oh well...
Text messaging and MMS is nice as well. You can choose most of the typical entry methods, but I've been having fun with the handwriting entry. Don't leave any gaps when you spell any letters, but it's cool to just write on the screen and have it put it right into a text. It's slower than using the on screen key pad, but a fun novelty for now. It doesn’t appear to have a full touch screen qwerty, but I also didn’t rotate it to landscape during testing so it could be there.
I did have one issue with my voicemail recognizing one number at AT&T, but after a long hold time they just reset my voicemail and both numbers worked like a charm in accessing vmail. One negative, and a fairly big one is that when I called both of my lines and left voicemails it still only put one voicemail notification at the top. It's not possible, or at least I've not figured out how to discern which line has the voicemail on it. Although when unlocking it puts a nice big box on the screen stating the calls I missed. In addition the missed call widget is nice to show missed calls as well.
About the only issue I am having so far is getting the internet to work. I want to test it just so I can verify it will work, and to mess around with the browser some. I intend to drop my dataplan as I only used it for my GPS previously, and since Santa brought me a full on GPS I know it's a wasted $30 a month.
[G-sensor] It also has what I think is called the G-sensor, or at least the thing that rotates the screen when you do. Also when you drag the widgets or speed dials onto the screen you can shake it to “snap them into place”. Personally I prefer to place them in the locations I want though.
So, in closing I love this phone so far. The last phone I was this happy with was the original Razr back when no one else but me and a select few had it (only a few other dummies willing to pay the $500 for it back in the day). I presume that I have missed a fair amount of things people may be interested in, so please feel free to ask for additional information and I will see if I can discern it from messing around with the phone. My HTC Fuze and Crap dual sim Chinese phones are officially retired. I’m sure I’ll snag another smartphone at some point so I can load up all of the tweaks from here, but for now it’s nice to have a phone that isn’t slow to respond and accomplishes my personal goals.

But no windowsmobile, right?
HI, thats a long review. Think a lot people are happy about it, cause it is a good phone i suppose.
But it's not windowsmobile,isnt it?
I need "dual sim" "dual standby", and find no windowsmobile phone that supports this. I have two china phones, which both drive me mad, more than windowsmobile ever did, so I finally want to find a solution.
Don't think this is the right thread to post my topic,so I'll search now for the right place here in xda-developers.
Cheers

[APP REQUEST] Trackball as phone "Send" button

(please delete the other thread)
N1 suffers from one simple but debilitating hardware limitations - lack of hardware buttons.
Since trackball clicking is rarely used, it would be nice to assign a different function to it.
The first function coming to mind has to do with the fact that the device is a phone -
make trackball into a "Send" button.
This is what it should do:
1) whenever not in the dialer app, clicking trackball should bring up/start the dialer.
2) when in the dialer app, and a phone number was entered, clicking trackball should dial the number.
3) when there's an incoming call, clicking the trackball should answer the call.
I know some people with arthritis who would kill for such an app.
Thanks.

If such an app. were to be created, how about the case where the foreground process requires the use of the trackball click? Then every time you clicked it, the phone dialer would load.
I also don't personally thing the Android APIs would allow such a global hook (w/o root), but I'm not the best dev. out there so I'll let the more experienced respond to that one.

jayshah said:
If such an app. were to be created, how about the case where the foreground process requires the use of the trackball click? Then every time you clicked it, the phone dialer would load.
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Well, that's the whole point.
You mean like a game? So far, games might be the only programs where you HAVE to use trackball for functionality.
I think all other programs allow touch screen input in place of the trackball.
Since I never use the trackball for anything, and I've seen a number of comments with the same sentiment (ie "trackball is useless"), I'd gladly trade the entire trackball function (including moving the cursor with the ball) for the ability to have a hardware "send" button.

I'll personally pay 50 dollars to a man/woman who can make this work. Then they can collect the money from thousands of market goers who'd would prefer a useful hardware button over a useless one.

Just a small bump.

why is this in the development section?
/sarcasm
jesus people your right stuff like this should be posted next to / under/ above threads like Cyanogen and Amon_RA

And how would you handle the movement of the ball when it rolls? I find when in recovery, it doesn't take much for the trackball movement to register and overshoot the options I am aiming for if not careful. Obviously a sensitivity setting would be the recourse for such a dilemma but still...or were you thinking that anything beyond buttonOn (false function obviously) is ignored?
Technically you could go as far as to have the tracball pressed trigger the dialer. From there you can scroll to call log, contacts, favourites using the trackball and then scroll down if you so desire.
I do find it odd that the phone has this hardware button and rarely is it actually used.
I think being able to touch the trackball and force the phone out of sleep is a sound expectation for this phone...the fact it isn't there is odd.

just get a sense or blur rom, that fixes everything

PsychoKilla666 said:
just get a sense or blur rom, that fixes everything
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hahaha...
in other news, plenty of people have no interest in senseUI

One more bump.
Someone should really write this program.

Using the trackball to bring the phone in and out of sleep would drain your battery. That trackball is way to easily pressed (ie in your pocket) to be of any use as that function, but I would love the phone/send function. Would be wonderful as I hate having a phone shortcut on my homescreen.
Would be willing to pay or donate as well.

APrinceAmongMen said:
Using the trackball to bring the phone in and out of sleep would drain your battery. That trackball is way to easily pressed (ie in your pocket) to be of any use as that function, but I would love the phone/send function. Would be wonderful as I hate having a phone shortcut on my homescreen.
Would be willing to pay or donate as well.
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Thank you. One of very few people who seem to understand this problem.
Anyway, the community's reluctance to implement this feature is a seeming indication of difficulty to do it. Maybe Android OS isn't that flexible; or maybe it's just too new, so people haven't really learned yet how to do things with it.
After all, the Win Mobile OS has been around for ages, and sure enough, as soon my Sprint Touch Pro2 was released, I had an app to rebind all the keys to whatever function I wanted.
Perhaps, in the future, we will see an Android app like the one I want. But, to my greatest disappointment, it may be years...

bump bump bump

I'll bump it one more time.

Any progress with this feature?

Another month has passed...
Has any developer figured out if it'd even be possible to make an app like that?
Thanks.

[APP][2.3+] Avanos, the first guest mode for Android

**My last thread got closed, should've read the rules, here goes a second try.**
One day when I was jogging, a little girl that looked scared and confused approached me. She couldn't find her mother and she asked if she could use my phone to call her. I thought to myself 'Sure, I'm helpful.' When I was waiting for her to finish her phone call, I noticed that she was swiping her finger on the screen. I was thinking to myself, 'Why does she need to scroll during a phone call?' I took my phone back and lo and behold, she was going through my pictures. I reprimanded her, telling her that she shouldn't be going through other's phones like that. I felt real bad that I had to take my phone back before she could find her mother, but what else was I supposed to do? It's not like there's an app that can do that.
That's when Avanos was born.
It's a simple phone dialer that locks the user in it so that no other app can be opened, fullscreen so that the notification bar cannot be accessed, It even closes the long home press automatically. It operates just like the built in dialer. After the person hangs up, it opens a password prompt that unlocks the phone and makes it go back to normal when the correct password is entered. I honestly think this is a revolution in Android. It can be helpful to coaches when kids that don't have phones need to call their parents, nice people who gives their phone out to others frequently, or as an everyday emergency phone.
So tell me what you guys think; I need the feedback.
Here's a link if you want to try it out, I don't know if it works for rooted phones. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mshaw.avanos8.lite

Question Frustrated with Google dialer

I don't know about you guys, but the Google dialer is one of the worst human factors designs with the latest iteration.
A right-handed person typically puts the phone up to the right side of their face and the cheek, even with the sensor to turn off the screen on, hits the mute button to mute the phone.
This is extremely frustrating. What does everyone else think about the dialer? What do you guys use? Workarounds?

simple workaround, don't touch the phone to your face

rester555 said:
I don't know about you guys, but the Google dialer is one of the worst human factors designs with the latest iteration.
A right-handed person typically puts the phone up to the right side of their face and the cheek, even with the sensor to turn off the screen on, hits the mute button to mute the phone.
This is extremely frustrating. What does everyone else think about the dialer? What do you guys use? Workarounds?
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I don't use the Google Dialer, have in the past, but found this dialer months ago and even paid for the ad-free version. Lots of features in the settings.
[App][4.0+] True Phone - Best Dialer & Contact manager replacement
[App][4.0+] True Phone Dialer & Contacts & Call Recorder True Phone has arrived to replace your stock dialer and contact manager and bring your dialing experience to the next level! It's the only one dialer app with full contact management...
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spookytay said:
simple workaround, don't touch the phone to your face
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I'll take it under advisement. But my face looks like this... View attachment 5773213

It's not just the dialer but also contacts inside the dialer is not of the best design imho. Coming from a Samsung Note 20 Ultra I thought I would love the original Android feel but I do miss some of the improvements Samsung made from an ergonomic point of view. I do like the aesthetics of the p7p very much.

I have never had an issue with this. It doesn't matter which side of my face I put the phone up to, the proximity sensor stops me from hitting any buttons.
Also, I thought most right-handed people put their phone to the left side of their face like I do so they have their right hand free to do other things lol. I even put my phone in my left pocket.
I do agree about the contacts in the dialer though. Never been a fan of it. At least Google has smart dialing for contacts in the dialer though so I never have to actually use the contacts section.

EtherealRemnant said:
I have never had an issue with this. It doesn't matter which side of my face I put the phone up to, the proximity sensor stops me from hitting any buttons.
Also, I thought most right-handed people put their phone to the left side of their face like I do so they have their right hand free to do other things lol. I even put my phone in my left pocket.
I do agree about the contacts in the dialer though. Never been a fan of it. At least Google has smart dialing for contacts in the dialer though so I never have to actually use the contacts section.
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An interesting phenomena.. How many people use which hand when calling. But yes, I should probably not put the phone to my face, also when I squash the phone into my neck and shoulder when I have to use both hands, the mic get's smooshed and people can't hear me. I just have a terrible face

rester555 said:
An interesting phenomena.. How many people use which hand when calling. But yes, I should probably not put the phone to my face, also when I squash the phone into my neck and shoulder when I have to use both hands, the mic get's smooshed and people can't hear me. I just have a terrible face
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Honestly sounds more like you have a terrible proximity sensor. Mine is so sensitive that it drives me nuts sometimes. Like the other day I was on a call and put it on speaker so I could answer some text messages and trying to swipe down the notification panel with my index finger was just turning the screen off so I had to actually angle it down and to the left to get the drawer open.

I'm right handed and I use my left hand to make a phone call...

+1 on the the right handed people holding phone in left to dial with the right hand.

I'm righthanded and use my right hand to hold and dial the phone.

Lughnasadh said:
I'm righthanded and use my right hand to hold and dial the phone.
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Welcome to the club brother. It feels so weird in my left hand to make a call.

I am predominantly left handed in that i write and throw left handed but use both hands and either ear to make calls, thanks to the world being right handed i am comfy using either hand for most things and i havent noticed a problem when on a call and i swap sides regularly thought a call.

The other features i miss in pixel after coming from OnePlus -
- allow to dial a number from second sim card. I know I can switch the sim after dialing a number but that is a bit frustrating if you don't want to share both your numbers and dialled the number by mistake from the sim you intend not to
- i miss the native video call from my native network provider which was so easy and independent of any additional app. I wish Google could bring it back and not force to use duo for video calls.

don_pablo007 said:
allow to dial a number from second sim card. I know I can switch the sim after dialing a number but that is a bit frustrating if you don't want to share both your numbers and dialled the number by mistake from the sim you intend not to
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I mean you can do this but it's going to prompt you before every call to choose what SIM to use.

Here is my case
Im right handed but use my phone mostly by my left hand single hand. Actually it feels un natrual for me to use my right hand and the phone.
As for the dialer, my god its so lacking. Im also a "true phone" user for many many years. But here are some things im facing.
1. If i use true phone then i loose on call screening feature that the stock dialer offers.
2. Ability to select which sim to use when dialing
3. Ability to use same sim to call back. Lets say if i receive a call on sim 1, when i dial back to should automatically use that same sim to call back.
On my oneplus 7 pro i ran both that stock dialer and "true phone" side by side which doubled up the features for me. Currently if i set the stock dialer as default dialer then "true phone" doesnt open and vice versa.
Also maybe its a bug in "true phone" but lets say if its set as the default dialer, when i want to do call forwarding, the true phone only takes me to the system forwarding menu but i cant know which sim it is since im running 2 sims.
And finally the t9 search, " true phone" is miles ahead.
What a dilemma

rester555 said:
I don't know about you guys, but the Google dialer is one of the worst human factors designs with the latest iteration.
A right-handed person typically puts the phone up to the right side of their face and the cheek, even with the sensor to turn off the screen on, hits the mute button to mute the phone.
This is extremely frustrating. What does everyone else think about the dialer? What do you guys use? Workarounds?
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I have the same issue. looking for a salution

Besides the design flaws, the dialer stopped working mostly since the December update. Most annoying is that it no longer shows when a call comes in. And it's still a phone right? So this is one of the things, if not the first, that should just work!
Clearing cache and data doesn't help. Will be downgrading the phone app to the November version.

Huh ? I use it on my right cheek as well, never accidentally mute the call tho. Although i always awarely give gap between cheek and screen, because i have oily skin, and hate the need to wipe my screen after each call.

Google contacted me after I made some serious complaints about the dialer and other bugs. Said 'they will be working on this, thanks'. I installed Simple Dialer from Simple Mobile Tools, paid .79 cents to give it normal colors and my phone now works like a phone...