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[Q] (Q) Is it Worth To Get a Nexus S 4G @ This Point

Simple as the title says, i'm just curious is there any point now to get one.
My intentions are simply to just have a fun, i don't want to activate the phone.
I'm currently a Samsung Epic 4G user, is it worth me to buy this phone?
I found one off craigslist for 100$ and it has bad esn.
Would there be any use for me to get this phone?
Thanks in Advance please don't flame.

XxLostSoulxX said:
Simple as the title says, i'm just curious is there any point now to get one.
My intentions are simply to just have a fun, i don't want to activate the phone.
I'm currently a Samsung Epic 4G user, is it worth me to buy this phone?
I found one off craigslist for 100$ and it has bad esn.
Would there be any use for me to get this phone?
Thanks in Advance please don't flame.
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A bunch of people will likely say you should wait for the new fancy quad core around that illusive corner or you should get that shiny new joint with the bells, whistles, and whurlies. and to all that I just say, ask yourself these questions:
1. Who has the best development community?
2. Who's been running ics for 5 months now?
3. Who has best mix of functionality and performance?
The answer, my friend, is we do. I learned long ago that hardware is just a hardwired piece of crap without development. And our development, in my opinion, is among the best. And our hardware is nothing to play with either. In fact, I don't think the software is at a level to really use the new hardware. It's like running windows 98 on a quad core machine... Why would anyone do that?
I should add, all this is considering you plan on rooting and flashing. If not, get something else.
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Bruce lee roy said:
A bunch of people will likely say you should wait for the new fancy quad core around that illusive corner or you should get that shiny new joint with the bells, whistles, and whurlies. and to all that I just say, ask yourself these questions:
1. Who has the best development community?
2. Who's been running ics for 5 months now?
3. Who has best mix of functionality and performance?
The answer, my friend, is we do. I learned long ago that hardware is just a hardwired piece of crap without development. And our development, in my opinion, is among the best. And our hardware is nothing to play with either. In fact, I don't think the software is at a level to really use the new hardware. It's like running windows 98 on a quad core machine... Why would anyone do that?
I should add, all this is considering you plan on rooting and flashing. If not, get something else.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes...
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Well of course I'm going to root and flash lol I'm no noob at all just wondering why is it that it has boot loader? And funny thing is the epic has all of the same specs except has a KB, Sd Card Slot, And Soft keys actually light up brighter haha. But ill have to give this a thought, BTW is it really hard to root it? I remember for the Epic was simple and easy.
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If you just want to have fun then heck yeah buy it! Haha, there's a bunch of ROMS to flash and probably the most ICS ROMS that are stable besides the GSM NS or the G Nex. You can make it your dedicated mp3 player to lol, I've heard that our NS's have some of the best audio hardware around coupled with voodoo sound And yes it is SUPER easy to root!

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If you just want to have fun then heck yeah buy it! Haha, there's a bunch of ROMS to flash and probably the most ICS ROMS that are stable besides the GSM NS or the G Nex. You can make it your dedicated mp3 player to lol, I've heard that our NS's have some of the best audio hardware around coupled with voodoo sound And yes it is SUPER easy to root!
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Voodoo is an awesome addition to the Nexus, but you can always make it even louder with the Loud Volume Hack

unlocking the boot loader is as simple as "fastboot oem unlock" rooting is also really easy, you can turn it into a massacre machine or make it to last a week without charging, a great gallery of modification have come to beeing that give you even more freedom and.. well a lot more. well for 100$ i'd definitely buy it...again

JohNy_GR4 said:
unlocking the boot loader is as simple as "fastboot oem unlock" rooting is also really easy, you can turn it into a massacre machine or make it to last a week without charging, a great gallery of modification have come to beeing that give you even more freedom and.. well a lot more. well for 100$ i'd definitely buy it...again
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How would it last a week on a small battery? I have the same phone pretty much and had the oem 1500 mAh and on CM7 usuing VR (Scheduler) and Conservative (Governor Clearly lol) and was heavy UV as well and can barely break 15 Hours. Now I have a hyperion 3500 mAh And most I've gotten is 2 days with about 2 Hrs of actual screen on time. I hopped on netflix other day and straight watched it no interuptions except after movie wifi went out and turned it back got 6 Hrs on battery and about 5 Hrs and 30Mins of actual screen on time. Phone was awake the whole time pretty much. I can post screenies but a lil later busy right now. If it can last you a week what are you doing? Are you actually using the phone haha? Thanks for the input guys considering buying it.
Edit: not to mention I use Juice defender as well to help it out and trust me it lasts longer I've tested it you just have to use correct settings to your usage.
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JohNy_GR4 said:
unlocking the boot loader is as simple as "fastboot oem unlock" rooting is also really easy, you can turn it into a massacre machine or make it to last a week without charging, a great gallery of modification have come to beeing that give you even more freedom and.. well a lot more. well for 100$ i'd definitely buy it...again
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What do you have now? And why did you leave then haha? I'm still trending on if I should get it or not till can some one give me a reply to last post? Very curious
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This and the Samsung Galaxy S (aka Epic Touch 4G) are practically the same phone with a different case. Looking at features alone the Galaxy has a microsd card slot and FM radio which the Nexus doesn't. I wouldn't bother buying the Nexus if you keep the Touch unless you're dying for an awesome dev community.

Harbb said:
This and the Samsung Galaxy S (aka Epic Touch 4G) are practically the same phone with a different case. Looking at features alone the Galaxy has a microsd card slot and FM radio which the Nexus doesn't. I wouldn't bother buying the Nexus if you keep the Touch unless you're dying for an awesome dev community.
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I don't have thetouch I have the Keyboard one everyone keeps posting in our section too because they have the touch but if they saw the picture it shows the KB???
Plus ithey said this phone will last a long time but how if they read my longer post about the Epic OG. Plus wondering now either to get this phone or radar detector
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Sorry, the Touch is the SGS2. I wasn't even aware there was a KB variant of the "Epic 4G", sorry for that misunderstanding. Feel free to disregard my comment above.

Harbb said:
Sorry, the Touch is the SGS2. I wasn't even aware there was a KB variant of the "Epic 4G", sorry for that misunderstanding. Feel free to disregard my comment above.
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The Epic is closest into relation as the Nexus are you kidding me the Epic Touch has 1.2GHz Dual Core. More Ram, etc....
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XxLostSoulxX said:
The Epic is closest into relation as the Nexus are you kidding me the Epic Touch has 1.2GHz Dual Core. More Ram, etc....
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I was referring to the "Epic 4G" (SGS1), it never crossed my mind that the "Epic 4G Touch" was the SGS2.

Harbb said:
I was referring to the "Epic 4G" (SGS1), it never crossed my mind that the "Epic 4G Touch" was the SGS2.
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Well anyways can you give me insight on my other questions
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If you buy it outright go ahead. You can then sell it when a new phone comes along and you want to use your discount. Don't buy the ns4g using a two year contract though

Evo_Shift said:
If you buy it outright go ahead. You can then sell it when a new phone comes along and you want to use your discount. Don't buy the ns4g using a two year contract though
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I already said I didn't want to buy this phone or any with a contract hence off of craigslist or just want to mess with is all.
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What do you guys think of the MI-TWO?

What do you guys think of the MI-TWO? for only $313 dollars OFF contract, it's amazing, and 2gb ram+Qualcomm Snapdragon Pro Quad-core, its a bargain. what do you guys think?

I would like to order, but how? It is only available in china as I know.

genkiz said:
I would like to order, but how? It is only available in china as I know.
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I dunno, I think it's releasing in October, and I will sent someone to China to get it for me! Lucky me.
Xxx oops! accidentally beamed from my awesome NEXUS S! xxX

It looks really good. I have held off on getting a new phone since my contract expired as there is nothing out there that does everything I want, but this might just be the phone for me.
Quad-Core, large screen (+ high resolution), Add-on Micro SD-Card slot, looks like removable battery as well, so can upgrade to the 3000mAh one for longer life.
There has to be a catch somewhere ...

Looks freaking insane, but I dont like MIUI that much :/

SimonTS said:
It looks really good. I have held off on getting a new phone since my contract expired as there is nothing out there that does everything I want, but this might just be the phone for me.
Quad-Core, large screen (+ high resolution), Add-on Micro SD-Card slot, looks like removable battery as well, so can upgrade to the 3000mAh one for longer life.
There has to be a catch somewhere ...
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Not only removable but from the article I read this morning the 3000mAh is going to cost you a whole 2mm in thickness.
This phone looks amazing, can't wait to see if it's obtainable in the US and if it gets any momentum going. I'd expect a lot of prepaid folks to give this a hard look for what looks to be the best bang for your buck ever.
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It looks great but u think it will be possible to install cm10 or something?

Any link??
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QBANBOY407 said:
Any link??
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Yeah - Google have hundreds of them

Yea i saw it. I want it
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xionix said:
It looks great but u think it will be possible to install cm10 or something?
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It would be veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery nice!

Hate to say it but this phone will not get a big following anywhere outside of china for many reasons. Some being that these types of china knock offs tend not to have the hardware that is advertised, no real warranty outside of china, and normally don't run official android builds, nor have access to the market due to Google and china issues.
Might not be bad if they could get their act together but I don't see iit happening
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I want but don't want to think about how much extra I will be paying to import it. It is really nice though and if I wanted to I could just use an alternate launcher. They should open up a shop in the states xD.
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stab244 said:
I want but don't want to think about how much extra I will be paying to import it. It is really nice though and if I wanted to I could just use an alternate launcher. They should open up a shop in the states xD.
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One look at the phone and UI and you will see why that won't happen. They keep it in china due to the lack of copyright laws.
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zelendel said:
One look at the phone and UI and you will see why that won't happen. They keep it in china due to the lack of copyright laws.
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Well china does have copyright laws. It's either just not enforced at all or it favors companies in the country.
Also as a reply to your previous post, this company is supported by Qualcomm directly (or at least so I read on Engadget). And since it is running MIUI, it also has full access to the Play Store and will get updates since it just updates whenever MIUI gets updated. Warranty probably won't work but I tend to try to not damage my products and keep them safe. If there are manufacturing issues, well that's my fault for not researching the product more before I bought it.
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Just because it has MIUI (which is not something I would brag about lol) doesn't mean it will have the market. If it looks good to you then by all means give it a shot. Good luck just don't expect it to find a home here.
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zelendel said:
Hate to say it but this phone will not get a big following anywhere outside of china for many reasons. Some being that these types of china knock offs tend not to have the hardware that is advertised, no real warranty outside of china, and normally don't run official android builds, nor have access to the market due to Google and china issues.
Might not be bad if they could get their act together but I don't see iit happening
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*sigh, you definitely haven't used MIUI, or any product by Xiaomi. They are TRUSTED. Go ask those who uses the Mi-One, they are the most satisfied bunch of all smartphone Enthusiasts. Why? They don't get updates not every six months, but every Friday! And trust me, they DID NOT make up the hardware specs. Its either that you're racists towards Chinese companies, or just a unlucky customer who bought a fake product.
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First off I am not racist to anything at all. I give everyone a fair shake. As for MIUI your right I have never used it and never will. I don't support what they did.
As for the hardware specs I am not aging they made them up. Just stating what many have seen with buying knock off devices. If this device hardware is legit cool and I am sure people will be happy with it.
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Xiaomi MI-2 - kind of future for Android Smartphones- ...
All the hardware of the Xiaomi MI-2 is surprising, especially for the 1999 Yuan chinese price...
For sure, the lack of a memory card slot is annoying, but it is the choice of Google too, inside all the Nexus models.:angel:
Now if people could write an authentic JB ROM in order to replace the miui "iOS like" ROM, and if the international price could be really low, I would be inclined to replace my Nexus

Xiaomi 2
Xiaomi 2 is nice between my and my girl we have the last two previous models....her service provider in china will give the phone free when she signs a new contract and I will be trading her a JM phone for it.
jcgtreize said:
All the hardware of the Xiaomi MI-2 is surprising, especially for the 1999 Yuan chinese price...
For sure, the lack of a memory card slot is annoying, but it is the choice of Google too, inside all the Nexus models.:angel:
Now if people could write an authentic JB ROM in order to replace the miui "iOS like" ROM, and if the international price could be really low, I would be inclined to replace my Nexus
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[Q] Copy or original?

Hello! I am new to the forum and I am from Romania, so excuse my grammar mistakes. I want to buy a htc one s C2 model but not from store, it`s from a private person. It says it is sealed and with warranty but how i can distinguish an original from a copy?
Thank you!

Don't get the c2 there are better devices out there for the same price if not cheaper
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k1llacanon said:
Don't get the c2 there are better devices out there for the same price if not cheaper
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Why not? My current phone is a htc wildfire..:laugh: .What phone do you recommend at same price ( ~270-350 euro)?

edyman01 said:
Why not? My current phone is a htc wildfire..:laugh: .What phone do you recommend at same price ( ~270-350 euro)?
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Google nexus 4?

alexeius said:
Google nexus 4?
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Nexus 4 is more expensive than one s.

The S3 (c2) isnt THAT bad. Its nothing wrong with it performance-wise.
But the custom rom scene is terrible for it, and its **** compared to the One S S4.
Try to get a hold of an S4 device, its so much better than S3. But if theres no way for you to get an S4, the S3 is still a good device if you can live without a bunch of custom roms etc.

Goatshocker said:
The S3 (c2) isnt THAT bad. Its nothing wrong with it performance-wise.
But the custom rom scene is terrible for it, and its **** compared to the One S S4.
Try to get a hold of an S4 device, its so much better than S3. But if theres no way for you to get an S4, the S3 is still a good device if you can live without a bunch of custom roms etc.
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From my current phone is a big difference, no matter what phone i buy :laugh::laugh:. In Romania does not sell that model of one s .
So..how i can distinguish an original from a copy?

edyman01 said:
From my current phone is a big difference, no matter what phone i buy :laugh::laugh:. In Romania does not sell that model of one s .
So..how i can distinguish an original from a copy?
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Check out HTC's website for pictures, and make sure the phone you buy looks just like the pictures. I am not sure what color you would get, but the design of the device should be the same. If you can remove the back and access the battery, than its a knock-off.

impostle said:
Check out HTC website for pictures, and make sure the phone you buy looks just like the pictures. I am not sure what color you would get, but the design of the device should be the same. If you can remove the back and access the battery, than its a knock-off.
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I know all of the review for htc one s..and pictures with him. I want to know something else...i don`t know how to check the imei and all of this stuff.

The IMEI can be checked from system settings<about phone<status. If you are trying to determine is this phone has been reported stolen or something like that, you would probably have to contact the carrier and give them the IMEI number and ask them if the phone is been reported stolen. Of course I don't know if this is even possible with a Romania carrier, thats something you would have to call them about.

Nexus 4 any day
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impostle said:
The IMEI can be checked from system settings<about phone<status. If you are trying to determine is this phone has been reported stolen or something like that, you would probably have to contact the carrier and give them the IMEI number and ask them if the phone is been reported stolen. Of course I don't know if this is even possible with a Romania carrier, thats something you would have to call them about.
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I'll meet with the seller face to face and will check the phone. Other signs that the phone would be a copy? I can check the resolution of screen?
k1llacanon said:
Nexus 4 any day
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I don`t have money to buy nexus 4

Here is a full specification sheet for the HTC One S C2. This app from the Play store will give you hardware info.

edyman01 said:
Nexus 4 is more expensive than one s.
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Cmon! Nexus costs from 299$, and you want something around 270-350 euros! Nexus is cheaper than 350 euro, isn't it?

alexeius said:
Cmon! Nexus costs from 299$, and you want something around 270-350 euros! Nexus is cheaper than 350 euro, isn't it?
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Here cost around 470euro.
impostle said:
Here is a full specification sheet for the HTC One S C2. This app from the Play store will give you hardware info.
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Tnx!

edyman01 said:
Here cost around 470euro.
Tnx!
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Yeah, Nexus 4 price in Romania (in retail stores) is around 500+ euros, but still I've got my One S (Ville, S4) with ~400$, you can get S4 in Romania, you just have to search a bit. There are new ones (online stores) ~500$ and SH ones around 350-400$ with s4 processor. Just keep looking, you'll find a bunch of them

adi4motion said:
Yeah, Nexus 4 price in Romania (in retail stores) is around 500+ euros, but still I've got my One S (Ville, S4) with ~400$, you can get S4 in Romania, you just have to search a bit. There are new ones (online stores) ~500$ and SH ones around 350-400$ with s4 processor. Just keep looking, you'll find a bunch of them
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I don`t find the S4, only S3. But it`s such a big difference between them? I don`t use custom rom`s and nothing like that.

edyman01 said:
I don`t find the S4, only S3. But it`s such a big difference between them? I don`t use custom rom`s and nothing like that.
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There will be quite a difference when playing games, multitasking etc.

like usaff22 said, there's quite a difference when using CPU intensive apps, IMHO S4 is the fastest processor available when comparing core to core performance and keeping in mind that ville and ville c2 have the same price, i would say: keep looking. But if you're not that mad about processor power, s3 will do just fine.

edyman01 said:
I don`t find the S4, only S3. But it`s such a big difference between them? I don`t use custom rom`s and nothing like that.
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You probably wont notice much of a big difference, unless you got both an S3 and S4 in hand - then the differences become clear, and it is a rather big difference.
So, as long as you stay away from S4 the S3 will seem very fast, but once you compare it to an S4, the S3 will seem extremely slow and you will curse yourself for not getting an S4

[Q] OctaCore at Once

Is there a way to get all 8 cores running at the same time,

Theres no effect

At least from what i know you should wait the implementation of the HMP, but IMHO using all the cores is pretty useless ATM.
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Thanks for the replies i actually thought it was true octa-core(all 8 running at once) when i bought it, i guess that wasnt the case lol. thats the only reason i bought the i9500.

solat said:
Thanks for the replies i actually thought it was true octa-core(all 8 running at once) when i bought it, i guess that wasnt the case lol. thats the only reason i bought the i9500.
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hahahah... ur comment is kinda cute...
*evil face from samsung guys*

solat said:
Thanks for the replies i actually thought it was true octa-core(all 8 running at once) when i bought it, i guess that wasnt the case lol. thats the only reason i bought the i9500.
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You wanted to run windows 8 desktop version on it or use 3DMax software on it?

solat said:
Thanks for the replies i actually thought it was true octa-core(all 8 running at once) when i bought it, i guess that wasnt the case lol. thats the only reason i bought the i9500.
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Lolwat
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solat said:
Thanks for the replies i actually thought it was true octa-core(all 8 running at once) when i bought it, i guess that wasnt the case lol. thats the only reason i bought the i9500.
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If it was using all 8 cores at once that would be a reason not to buy it not the other way around that would be a massive battery hog along with very little performance benefit as no apps use that many threads only way u might benefit is in multi-tasking and even then if your handling enough apps that 4 a15s can't handle then your ram is probably packed so there won't even be room to store any extra processes so the a7s can kick in
So count your blessings
S4 INFO

Is it a good phone to get

Currently i have desire c but i might buy a new phone. I was looking on ebay and found this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321179175954?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Would you say this is a good deal and is the phone any good? And whats the battery life like and how well does cm10.1 run?
Thanks

Shad0wPanda said:
Currently i have desire c but i might buy a new phone. I was looking on ebay and found this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321179175954?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Would you say this is a good deal and is the phone any good? And whats the battery life like and how well does cm10.1 run?
Thanks
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No it's not. Buy a sensation if you care about build quality or gs2 if you don't because it has official CM support.
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VnnAmed said:
No it's not. Buy a sensation if you care about build quality or gs2 if you don't because it has official CM support.
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What do you mean by build quality? Is it flimsy? And the sensation is a bit big and i dont really like samsung phones.

Shad0wPanda said:
What do you mean by build quality? Is it flimsy? And the sensation is a bit big and i dont really like samsung phones.
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Gs2 is builds of plastic. I wouldn't buy DS because it's single core and it shows. It also has this weird screen issues. Sensation is dual+ newer SoC. But if you want best devs support Gs2 is the one to go with. What's you budget?
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Gs2 is builds of plastic. I wouldn't buy DS because it's single core and it shows. It also has this weird screen issues. Sensation is dual+ newer SoC. But if you want best devs support Gs2 is the I've to go with. What's you budget?
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Well im coming from a desire c with a 600mhz single core and 512mb of ram and found dsire s for £50 on ebay and compared with desire c we have only me and a few other devs

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Well im coming from a desire c with a 600mhz single core and 512mb of ram and found dsire s for £50 on ebay
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Yes I know. I just don't think u will feel that much of a more punch. Still I think DS is better than dc
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VnnAmed said:
Yes I know. I just don't think u will feel that much of a more punch. Still I think DS is better than dc
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Well its is £50 so do you think it would be worth it?

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Well its is £50 so do you think it would be worth it?
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Well it's hard for me to say because I don't live in UK. I mean the price isn't bad it's just that personally I would rather go dual-core at least.

VnnAmed said:
Well it's hard for me to say because I don't live in UK. I mean the price isn't bad it's just that personally I would rather go dual-core at least.
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I cant afford a dual core. I Dont have much money too spend on a phone £60 max

Shad0wPanda said:
I cant afford a dual core. I Dont have much money too spend on a phone £60 max
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Well the DS might be what you're looking for. Just consider orginal galaxy again for CM/dev support or our sister Desire HD.

VnnAmed said:
Well the DS might be what you're looking for. Just consider orginal galaxy again for CM/dev support or our sister Desire HD.
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I almost got galaxy s but when i tried to flash a rom onto my friends ace i couldnt get any to boot and i dont want to risk having to stay on stock rom :laugh: and the hd screen is too big for me. Max 4". not trying to be picky but i like my phone to be able to fit in my pocket

One problem is, you can't guarantee that any up-to-date jb (CM10.1) roms will boot on the device, take a look at the non-sony panel guide in the general section...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524

teadrinker said:
One problem is, you can't guarantee that any up-to-date jb (CM10.1) roms will boot on the device, take a look at the non-sony panel guide in the general section...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943524
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Thankyou for that information. If that is the case maybe ill ask the ebay shop and if they dont know ill buy and if its a hitachi i might return it as there is a 14 day return policy and so id be able to return it. But even if it is hitachi does auto brightness work?

Shad0wPanda said:
Thankyou for that information. If that is the case maybe ill ask the ebay shop and if they dont know ill buy and if its a hitachi i might return it as there is a 14 day return policy and so id be able to return it. But even if it is hitachi does auto brightness work?
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Sense roms are fully functional on both panel types. Old versions of cm10/10.1 can be booted with a special kernel, but, if I remember correctly, the brightness is stuck and can't be changed.

teadrinker said:
Sense roms are fully functional on both panel types. Old versions of cm10/10.1 can be booted with a special kernel, but, if I remember correctly, the brightness is stuck and can't be changed.
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Yes i remeber reading that but thats if its is hatichi. Ive emailed the ebay seller so im waiting for a reply :laugh:

Shad0wPanda said:
Currently i have desire c but i might buy a new phone. I was looking on ebay and found this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321179175954?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Would you say this is a good deal and is the phone any good? And whats the battery life like and how well does cm10.1 run?
Thanks
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buy a sensation
porting of sense 5 are basically at the end
remember, sense rom have the best tradeoff between power and battery ^^

cheap options
Shad0wPanda said:
I cant afford a dual core. I Dont have much money too spend on a phone £60 max
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In my personal opinion, this device is amazing: perfect size (3.7" screen), and an amazing android development: I've recently installed CM10.1 and the phone is incredibly fast (without OC).
But if you are not interested in custom ROMS you can also buy "non-branded" android devices: they are much cheaper.
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well with that budget Desire S is a perfect device
may i suggest you to buy even this (only 20 dollar and u have a NEW device)
there are even other part if u find something broker New cover
or maybe a Orange one

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buy a sensation
porting of sense 5 are basically at the end
remember, sense rom have the best tradeoff between power and battery ^^
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Well all the sensations i can afford are for parts or spare but i found one saying "Selling my HTC a few pixels on the screen have gone but is at the top off the screen and is not in the way my phone has starting to turn on and off can't be much wrong few with it someone with a knowledge off phone could buy and sell the phone is still working" do you think it would be software or hardware? If its software im going to be flashing a custom rom anyway

Shad0wPanda said:
Well all the sensations i can afford are for parts or spare but i found one saying "Selling my HTC a few pixels on the screen have gone but is at the top off the screen and is not in the way my phone has starting to turn on and off can't be much wrong few with it someone with a knowledge off phone could buy and sell the phone is still working" do you think it would be software or hardware? If its software im going to be flashing a custom rom anyway
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i think is hardware...and the LCD replacement for the sensation costs about costs 70 euro.. i think is not affordable for your budget :S
maybe in this case the Desire S is better