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[Q] SE LiveView Micro Display

Has anyone tried this device with the Desire?
They're only £50 at most places now. Thought it might be fun to play with, but there are some horrible reviews about it loosing connections and not re-establishing. Someone said that it has to sync with your handset just to display the correct time?
Wondering if anyone has any experiences to share?

Have seen a couple of reviews, none of the reviewers seemed very impressed. In one review (coolsmartphone.com I think), the unit kept randomly disconnecting from the desire used. Was interested myself until I saw how temperamental it was.
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Electricpig seemed quite impressed too, but I dont think they tried it with a desire. I like the idea, but the battery life on the desire isn't great as it is, having bluetooth on all the time would kill it i think. And on the liveView I've read battery life is as short as 12 hours...
Think I might have to give it a miss too.

BIG problems..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830734
I have one. Not good with Desire..

well, sometimes it works good, sometimes it doesnt ... the main problem is a connection problem. sometimes it tries to connect every time you press a button on the liveview.
sonyericsson is on its way to publish an update this month ... lets see if it helps

Update out now! Firmware and Market update!
How to update:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/liveviewupdate
More info:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/developerwor...-micro-display/
Don't forget to update the app in the phone using Market.
Stable for me.. just need to wait and see.

Got one on order, thought it was worth a punt, will report on the reliability of it once I receive it.
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I got one a couple days ago. Its working great with the update. Only issue I've run into is I'm using cm7 and each time the display reconnects to my desire I have to approve the pairing on the phone. I wish there was a way to allow it to auto-pair when in range. Such a pain to have to acknowledge connection on the phone each time!! (just to be clear this happens when I get out of range from my phone, then walk back into range)

How are people finding the battery life?
The reconnect issue must be very annoying!

battery life is fairly decent. about 4+ hours. after the update from Sony and finally moving to CM7 build 13, it's been fantastic.
i only using the watch when driving around on the motorbike, for short periods of time. but, it's a world of difference from pre-update and pre-gingerbread.
remember, the LiveView is really just a fun little toy. don't rely on it for much more than that.
oh also, the plugins are working much more reliably than pre-update.

hello, I've got mine for couple of days. The LV shutdown after only three hours, it is for me not enough!
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Mini_Jack said:
hello, I've got mine for couple of days. The LV shutdown after only three hours, it is for me not enough!
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can you describe these 3 hours? what was your activity level and what apps are you running on the phone/watch?

in this 3 hours i only use the media player controler 45 min. and received one or two mail and sms.
I tried also to uninstall all the plugins,it only increase life time for 30 min.

Mine works fine since I read the threads on this forum regarding which processes to put in my ignore list. In fact, to test initially I disabled My Task Killer and it stayed connected for 2 days, I then ignored the correct processes, including goign into low security mode and ignoring everything to do with liveview. Since then it works great.

Mine lasts a couple of days with normal use. I use it as a remote for winamp at work for about an hour a day and read notifications every 30 mins or so.
An hour of charging every other day does it for me.
There is of course several things that I would like to see improved but it does what is advertised. The access to plugins I feel is way to cumbersome for one thing.
I had several problems with connections in the beginning, some even needed a unpair and the LiveView to be switched of for a day or so. The problem seemed to be that on connecting it tried to connect as my car stereo! After removing all other paired bluetooth devices the connection has been much more stable, though not perfect. The question is how it will behave if I start pairing these other devices again.
Now I loose the connection a couple of times each day but atleast reconnect is painless most of the times with just a few seconds wait.
Because of all the bad reviews and reports I bought mine used and cheap, so for the price I payed there is nothing to complain about.
Apart from being a nice gadget it really is a conversation piece, most people are very interested, and terms me gadget crazy =)

Planning on getting one as well, £42 on pixmania.
But was wondering are there any alternates to this for an android device. Or any other cool pocket devices that connect to the phone

There's a Sony watch that dies some similar things, but it us rather bulky and I am personally nit a fan of the aesthetics. I'd love to see this device get revisions to be thinner, more responsive, clearer and faster. I purchased mine in the hope that it would get these updates in the future. Have to support it now if I want it to be better later.
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YorikR32 said:
There's a Sony watch that dies some similar things, but it us rather bulky and I am personally nit a fan of the aesthetics. I'd love to see this device get revisions to be thinner, more responsive, clearer and faster. I purchased mine in the hope that it would get these updates in the future. Have to support it now if I want it to be better later.
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In your opinion do you think i should buy the Live view or wait a little longer and see if anyone's launching similar products.. (have not seen any news of any other manufacturer making one though )

I would wait..
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i bought it yesterday and till now im very satisfied. i updated it yesterday and im running redux rom. it only disconnects when i run any plugin. then i have to turn it off and turn it on again :/ has anyone solved this repairing problem (that repairs automatically not manually)??

Am I the only one with no issues

Had the phone on day 1, hour 1 the 20th and have had not 1 odd issue. Everyone here seems to hate their device, I'm coming from a vibrant which was cool too but this is way better....
How come y'all having so many issues and I haven't had 1... Anyone else have no issues like me?
I love this phone and its perfect for me.....

smashpunks said:
Had the phone on day 1, hour 1 the 20th and have had not 1 odd issue. Everyone here seems to hate their device, I'm coming from a vibrant which was cool too but this is way better....
How come y'all having so many issues and I haven't had 1... Anyone else have no issues like me?
I love this phone and its perfect for me.....
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I got the phone yesterday too and so far I don't have an issue. Came from Vibrant as well. I do see a little bleeding on top of the screen, but this is not an issue for me.

rukawa2k said:
I got the phone yesterday too and so far I don't have an issue. Came from Vibrant as well. I do see a little bleeding on top of the screen, but this is not an issue for me.
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My first phone had a lot of bleeding, switched it out for another and it barely has any. That's the only problem I've really run into.

My first unit had the restart problem but I replaced it at the tmo store and this new one is working fine and is almost up to the two day uptime since its initial boot.
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I got my phone last night and only issue I have is the screen bleed but it don't bug me either. So far really nice phone.
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I also got my phone on the 20th and everything have been running perfect. This phone is just amazing. The only thing I miss about my droid Incredible was the MIUI ROM.

I've had one reboot, but 2-1/2 days since then without any problems. I was a bit concerned about battery life for the first couple of days, but I've been off-charger for about 7 hours now with light usage and the battery is still at 83%, which is fine. Otherwise, no problems other than minor software issues (kinetic scrolling parameters, Qik has a version incompatibility with iPhone, I can't add applications to Car Home).

This tends to happen a lot. The people who are happy are content and don't usually post about it. Conversely, those who have issues, or think they have issues, end up posting about them, so you basically just end up with a bunch of negative discussions.
This is my 4th Android phone (G1, Nexus One, Epic 4G, and now the G2X), and by far the best one I've ever owned, ever.

I've had mine since the 20th and so far have had no problems at all. I activated it in the store and had a slight concern when it seemed to freeze up for a few minutes after it asked about synching my apps. However, I waited a few minutes and apparently it was indexing everything, because once it came back to normal I checked my apps and everything was there. Both the T-Mo rep and I were surprised to see all the apps back as well as my contacts, emails, and texts. Gotta love that Google cloud!
My only complaint (if you can even call it that) is that I can't tell which end is up when I pick it up. I came from a Nexus One and that trackball was a huge clue for where the top of the phone was. This phone is so dark with its new black gel case that I usually pick it up upside down and struggle to find the power button. I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually. Glad to see all my apps working with no hiccups, and I was fortunate not to get one with any screen bleed or unexpected restarts. Hope this keeps up.

i thought i had the wifi/4g problem but it was a mistake on my part. had the phone little over 24 hours and not a problem thus far

Most Happy people wont go to xda to create a thread and tell people how perfect and great their phone is.
Xda is clearly not the place for that. Im one of them. I have no issues with my phone, it has been great, fast and reliable.
Im just lurking around the G2X forums waiting for development updates.

No problems on my phone.
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No problems on mine either.
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No problems with my phone.

Only a small amount of screen bleed here, and for some reason I can't get it to connect to hspa only umts. Other than that great. Sucks though my vibe got hspa.
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No "send it back" issues here
my data connection sometimes locks up and seems slower than my vibrants connections. but i'm sure newer basebands/radios will come out and hopefully fix all that. a tiny bit of bleeding on top corner but nothing noticeable...i'm loving it....wish it had 768 ram but it has enough, haven't ran into many problem in that area, i have almost 300 apps and a multitask alot so i'm hopping this one doesn't kill my adw ex in the backround..i have it on persistent but it can still kill it if it wants....fingers crossed that's never an issue. so far love the phone....now waiting on the cable for the HDMI to come in the mail, and screen protectors.

One day 1, I had a couple random reboots. Days 2 and 3 have so far been completely error free. I have very little LCD bleed, only a tiny bit in the top corners that I can barely notice. Standby battery life has improved immensely as well. Down to 3-4% battery per hour which is very good on a stock ROM/kernel.
I'm totally satisfied.

I really like the phone and am keeping it but there's no question it has issues. Everyone uses their phone differently which is why we are having different experiences. I rely on Wi-Fi and Bluetooth heavily and LG's implementation of both is quirky causing erratic behavior. T-Mobile really screwed up the data management settings with their My Account app allowing the phone to use native data when set to Wi-Fi only. You're experiencing that whether you realize it or not.
I was in a T-Mobile store and they allowed me to play around with the configuration of their demo unit. I could replicate almost all the strangeness I experienced on my phone. Someone who uses the phone differently may never see the issues I'm having. Either software updates from LG or a replacement ROM will cure most of the problems that have been posted so in the end the phone will still be a good choice.

No issues here...
Flawless...

Mine is fantastic, I dont seem to have any screen bleed or reboots but ive noticed it seems like it lags sometime coming from the lock-screen but doesn't affect anything. All we need now are some custom roms.....

(Q) charge or thunderbolt

OK folks,
I have been a member follower of these groups for a longtime now. I love the android environment. I bought a charge yesterday that is giving me problems. I have not even begun to hack and am having lockups, robot voice, slow response, etc.
I have just factory reset before I take it back but wanted to know what the groups feel about the 2. I will be submitting this same question in the thunderbolt forum as well. Looking for opinions with a reason, please no flaming either device or me. I have read nearly every post under the charge group of forums.
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What were the issues you had with the Charge? Maybe others had the same problem and know of a way to fix things, or a work around?
Overall, I've heard of issues with both devices, but I have heard of more serious problems with the Thunderbolt compared to the Charge. The Thunderbolt is having reboot issues with the latest OTA update, and before that, had significant battery drain problems, with a full charge lasting just a few hours, regardless of use. The other problem, which is semi-manageable is the screen and its washed out look, and I've also heard of light bleed around the edge. The other issue, which I haven't heard as much about recently where times when the Thunderbolt would get stuck in 1X or 3G when in a 4G area.
With the Charge, some users seem to have random battery drain problems. Myself, I haven't noticed it being to bad, but I only just got my phone. Signal bouncing around has been reported to, but so far, when I'm in a 4G area, it stays in 4G unless I send a text or get a call (haven't tried voice/data simultaneously yet), and if I'm in a fringe 4G area, it seems to only pick it up if it is a better signal than 3G. Software may be a downside here to, depending on how you look at it, but so far, this is the best Samsung phone I have used, and best phone overall, despite the current lack of mods (which will be fixed in the coming days/weeks now)

I just picked up a Charge about a week ago after returning the Thunderbolt. I can honestly say if you want a 4G device, the Charge is the better option. I used the Thunderbolt for about six weeks and had way too many issues with it. I won't say that the Charge is problem free, but its minimal in comparison and managable. With the Thunderbolt I had worse battery issues, syncing that wouldn't shut off, terrible signal that would go from 3G to 1X to no service, and reboots multiple times a day. The only problems I've had with the Charge has been Touchwiz and the battery. Touchwiz is an awful launcher but that's what ADW or Launcherpro is for. And the battery life for the Charge is rough, but probably double than what I was getting out of the Thunderbolt. Before these phones came out, I had no faith in either manufacturer when it came to android. Now, some has developed for one. Hope this helps.
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Thanks both of you for your responses. I have read the complete forums about my issues and some are common and involve a bad phone. I actual got 2 and the other one does not have the same issues so back to Verizon for a replacement I will go.
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I have a thunderbolt too and have and still do have random reboots and battery drain. I also get 1X lock in 3G areas too.
My wife owns the Charge and so far it's nice. I haven't really had it long enough to really compare the two.
How did you return your Thunderbolt after 6 weeks? Or did you just pay full retail for the Charge and ebay the thunderbolt?
ghettomuffin said:
I just picked up a Charge about a week ago after returning the Thunderbolt. I can honestly say if you want a 4G device, the Charge is the better option. I used the Thunderbolt for about six weeks and had way too many issues with it. I won't say that the Charge is problem free, but its minimal in comparison and managable. With the Thunderbolt I had worse battery issues, syncing that wouldn't shut off, terrible signal that would go from 3G to 1X to no service, and reboots multiple times a day. The only problems I've had with the Charge has been Touchwiz and the battery. Touchwiz is an awful launcher but that's what ADW or Launcherpro is for. And the battery life for the Charge is rough, but probably double than what I was getting out of the Thunderbolt. Before these phones came out, I had no faith in either manufacturer when it came to android. Now, some has developed for one. Hope this helps.
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I bought my charge yesterday. Came from a tbolt. The tbolt is a piece of **** compared to the charge. ****ty battery. Poor build quality.bluetooth sucks. Screen sucks. And for some reason htc cant seem to send me a good replacement for my original tbolt that randomly died on me. Samsung makes a fine product.
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The ONLY thing i preferred on the TB over my Charge was the 256mb of extra memory really does make a difference, everything is that bit snappier on the TB, but the crap battery, poor visible screen when outside, the piss poor signal, the fact it looked just like my mates htc surround windows 7 phone just bigger and finally some of the software is garbage like when it saves drafts and you dont want it to of your half written text, and the fact the browser instead of being able to type and google search appears, you have to delete the http:// that appears everytime, make the charge stand head and shoulders above the HTC, will be interesting to see what this new LG Revolution is like as that seems identical to the charge
Quick edit: But i have to add that when changing over from rfs with the voodoo lag fix could make things even out in speed, im yet to root so i cant answer

kendav911 said:
Thanks both of you for your responses. I have read the complete forums about my issues and some are common and involve a bad phone. I actual got 2 and the other one does not have the same issues so back to Verizon for a replacement I will go.
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I had to take back my first Charge as the vibrate motor was dead The new one though seems to be fine thus far though.

I had the Thunderbolt the first day it came out and returned it on the 14th. I really like the Charge, compared to HTC and Motorola, I think Samsung offers a good blend of things. The media player on this phone f-in ROCKS! The camera is good, much better low light performance than Motorola and offers great controls, and the screen is beautiful. The only thing I absolutely HATE is the **** brown color scheme. I hope that this can be resolved soon and I hope that developers will jump on board and give us a great community of ROM's and support because I think this phone has great potential

I *think* the Charge has dedicated video memory, where the TB doesn't.
So the Charge may only have 512M RAM, but I *think* it has 128M of video memory, where the TB has 768 of shared memory.
Someone chime in and correct me if I am wrong.
I do have both a Charge (wife) and a TB. I think the Charge, even with the Voodoo lag fix, is not as snappy as the TB. Not because of the memory, but because the TB has a bumped processor over the older hummingbird.
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The ONLY thing i preferred on the TB over my Charge was the 256mb of extra memory really does make a difference, everything is that bit snappier on the TB, but the crap battery, poor visible screen when outside, the piss poor signal, the fact it looked just like my mates htc surround windows 7 phone just bigger and finally some of the software is garbage like when it saves drafts and you dont want it to of your half written text, and the fact the browser instead of being able to type and google search appears, you have to delete the http:// that appears everytime, make the charge stand head and shoulders above the HTC, will be interesting to see what this new LG Revolution is like as that seems identical to the charge
Quick edit: But i have to add that when changing over from rfs with the voodoo lag fix could make things even out in speed, im yet to root so i cant answer
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Thanks all for the feedback. I still have the Charge and I did a factory reset and most of the issues have resolved itself. I am still looking at the thunderbolt but for now I have the Charge.

Regrets???

[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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who is "GB"?
heard that name a couple of times but still dont know.
And well...i trade my evo 3d in tommorow and get the optimus 3d.
The evo3d surely isnt a better device. lag and speed drops all the way, everywhere. even pinch to zoom in the browser lags...and i need to wait everywhere...even wait 1 - 2 secs before the keyboards pops up.
And it didnt sync my emails properly.
Wanted to buy the galaxy s2 but well....i DID love the evo 3d's 3d screen. its nicer then on the o3d because resolution, but that means its not far off.

Glad I've visited from s2 section was gonna go from s2 to optimus 3d it looks superb on reviews on you tube but is it as good as they make out, I like to be up to date on my smart phones but might stick with s2 what do you users think.?
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...........

i regret even laying eyes on this piece of crap so what i did was make my lil brother take it off me cuz he loves it. So i am gonna wait for the next nexus phone to come out this October its called the nexus prime imma get that the s2 can shove it too i hate it lol....

Best phone in Holland never have.problems
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Paran0idAndr0id said:
[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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Hi mate.You really seem to have problems with your O3D. Have had mine for more than 1 month and its incredible. I had a SGS2 before and i just can't miss anything from that.I made my own custom ROM (you should do that too) and it works amazing, fast and stable.I have all Gameloft 3D games and they work just better in 3D than in the SGS2 in 2D wich needed its GPU to be locked at max to get descent FPS.In my opinion the LG O3D is the only phone out there that i could say "WOWWW" after playing with.Battery life is really bad i agree, but have you tried the other dual core phones ? they are pretty terrible as well. We gonna get GB soon and im pretty sure that the phone is gonna get a lot better, FROYO dont work properly on dual core devices.As soon as we get GB Im gonna start developing again, dont want to waste time with Froyo.

No regrets what so ever,its so super fast,no lag at all...love it !!!

Paran0idAndr0id said:
[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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Haven't noticed any major bugs with the phone, sure the software is far from the best but not that bad IMO and LG have released patches.
As for Custom ROMs, really what do people think? the phone is extremely new, released like 2 months ago and not even out in the US yet, CM is under development, going pretty fast but it still takes time, it's not like they can just pull it out of a hat, it takes hard work and many hours, in this case given by Ricardo who does this on his free time and not only for the O3D but other hardware as well, expecting a massive amount of CustomROMs within 2 months seems a bit ... After CM is released you'll probably see much more custom ROMs appearing.
Battery life is low yes (not really a surprise if you'd read anything about the phone before getting it) , much because of the screen but also because of unoptimized code because of new hardware etc. will hopefully get better with new software releases or you could get another battery or portable charger. (Running 3D actually doesn't require that much more battery then running the screen normally, it's the brightness and the screen tech that needs a fair amount of power).
If you could be more specific with what problems you have exactly people might be able to help you, just screaming bloody murder wont help much.
For ex.
What apps aren't working properly? And how aren't they working?
What are you doing when you have to reboot the phone to get it to work?
Got any custom apps like a custom lockscreen like agile lock or a custom home app?
Have you tried any battery saving apps?
Also if you haven't had problems like this before with a Smart phone you are either very lucky or you've never bought a extremely new smart phone, all new releases got a few problems here and there, the worst problems usually get sorted about 6 months after first release, compared to my other phones this one has had surprisingly few major issues for being a new phone and that's even more impressive when you realise that it's a new chipset for phones.

I had an HD2 with CM7 when this phone arrived (so I'm not a newbie here). It's for testing 'cause iPhone 4 is a bit expensive so where I work are in search of a good high end working phone.
The O3D has all the requisites out of the box but one: battery. I had it in a construction area and it barely reached 10 hours of normal use plus some gps.
About the hangs and apps that don't work... I only had a problem with Tasker, and it seems it was my problem and not the phone.
IMHO it's a good phone. Maybe your unit was defective?
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Someone tell what or who GB is or il open a topic lol...

I do regret it at moment, having come from a galaxy s with custom roms and absolute crazy battery life..at moment I'd swap it for a galaxy II..BUT am waiting for the october update and more custom roms, so it's still early days for this phone so gonna stick with it as slowly it seems to be moving forward...

@borgqueen the gb they are refering to is gingerbread

Lol I guess I created the topic on a weak moment. But seriously I hate sometimes this fon. Although I got a battery pack with higher capacity the battery dies prematurely. And no I didn't try any other dual core fones but heard that the galaxy 2 has much better battery life.
And I did had the newest smartphones such as htc desire etc.
So be more specific my issues are
1. YouTube player is acting out sometimes and if I fastforward then there seems to be weird color distortion
2. Can't change the bloody user agent in dolphin browser (might be the browser tough heard some fons have this bug) and also sometimes dolphin browser isn't reacting at all or any other browser until I reboot the fone? So definitely not browser related
3. Watching online flash content is a nightmare and this could be froyo related as on any gb fon I tried there where no issues non so ever .
4. Battery life is horrendous
5. Battery life is horrendous
6. Fon doesn't react some times at all and i have to force reboot
I think the fon has great potential but the software is so not in tune with the fon. So as I said I really hope GB will solve some issues here.
By the way I really don't want to offend anyone but it's just my opinion on things so don't fanboy me )
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Paran0idAndr0id said:
Lol I guess I created the topic on a weak moment. But seriously I hate sometimes this fon. Although I got a battery pack with higher capacity the battery dies prematurely. And no I didn't try any other dual core fones but heard that the galaxy 2 has much better battery life.
And I did had the newest smartphones such as htc desire etc.
So be more specific my issues are
1. YouTube player is acting out sometimes and if I fastforward then there seems to be weird color distortion
2. Can't change the bloody user agent in dolphin browser (might be the browser tough heard some fons have this bug) and also sometimes dolphin browser isn't reacting at all or any other browser until I reboot the fone? So definitely not browser related
3. Watching online flash content is a nightmare and this could be froyo related as on any gb fon I tried there where no issues non so ever .
4. Battery life is horrendous
5. Battery life is horrendous
6. Fon doesn't react some times at all and i have to force reboot
I think the fon has great potential but the software is so not in tune with the fon. So as I said I really hope GB will solve some issues here.
By the way I really don't want to offend anyone but it's just my opinion on things so don't fanboy me )
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Dual core phone actually require less battery than single core, but the difference is not that big, SGS2 has a Super AMOLED+ screen and a little bit more power in the battery = more time on a charge. (but from what I've heard they also have some problems with some units magically draining like 30% of battery in mere minutes, only hear say for me though so don't quote me on that)
Haven't watched that much Youtube on the phone but seems more like a network or app problem than the phone?
Sure that Dophin browser don't have a problem with the phone and are affecting other browsers? I've used FF and Original, actually like the Original best and I've not experienced that the browser stopped responding, some apps that are not working correctly can affect other apps, Agile Lock for some reason killed my SIM unlock app and made it almost impossible to use the phone, removed it and haven't had any problem with the SIM card after that.
Nightmare in what way? Laggy?
Battery life is pretty bad, true, not much you can do about it, use a lower brightness on your screen, try out CPU tuner and limit the phone, I've actually got my phone running MAX 600Mhz instead of 1Ghz, gives me about an hour of extra active usage and haven't found anything that really suffers because of the slower speed. Hopefully software updates will help the battery life, my old Hero had like 6hours usage when I first got it, when I retired it that was up to 24-48hours. Also if you need it, check out portable charger on Ebay, I got mine for ~$30 from Hong Kong, 5000mAh just plug in and charge via USB, with the 5V 1A output it fully recharges my phone from 0-100% in just under 3 hours and with the extra mAh you got like 2days away from the outlet, not ideal but works
Or get the 3500mAh battery if you prefer that.
Is it in sleep mode it stops reacting? That's some software glitch that LG has in their 2.2 release, only seems to affect some people noticeably, LG O2X has the same glitch and a nightly not to long ago for CM7 on the O2X reproduced the problem from what I've read.
Or is it while using it that it just stops responding?

I'll try now few other roms out there. No the fon freezes while using the fon actively. I got the problem with sleep too. Anyways there is no way other than wait for a proper cm7 release. Guess is not that far away, no
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I am back on a GS2 and it smokes this phone totally, still have the O3D but I don't use it now, i have come to the conclusion even with the 3D it doesn't make it a good choice over the GS2 its just better in every way.

Hmm i dont regret at all having this phone i had iphone 4 before optimus 3d and i have to say its the best phone i ever have had in all ways...but yeah the battery are a little problem my tip for that take down the quick meny and turn off all data settings like wifi 3g bluetooth after turned off all those settings the battery have lasted for about 2 days and i still have power on it...so no the battery are not the biggest problem here if you do that! and like alot reviews are saying android is leeching data alot therfor it use power turn those off to save battery

This phone is awesome. Anyone who regrets buying it has problems with "grass is greener syndrome" which no amount of coding and tweaking can solve.
The problem is not with the phone. The problem is with your lack of patience and understanding of what is realistic performance and developer support of a brand new device.
Chill out, smoke em if you got em. Most of us will have this phone for a year minimum so there will be plenty of software improvements from both LG and the dev community during that time. LG have already updated like three times. My motorola milestone didnt even get three updates in ITS ENTIRE LIFESPAN.
Be appreciative of what you have.
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I totally agree this phone is great. I've only been using it since Saturday, but I'm extremely impressed. It's speedy, responsive. I'm digging 3D photos and gaming. The build quality is excellent. It feels sturdy and not cheap or too plasticky.
As with all phones, there are drawbacks like the battery life, but it's by no means a deal-breaker. It's also relatively easy to improve (Juice Defender, reduced screen brightness, etc.). Also, if I try to open too many games at once it may freeze on occasion, but all of the 3D games are very hardcore, resource-intensive applications so any phone will freak if you push it too far.
I couldn't be happier with it.

Third Phone - Not the Charm!

Just got my third G2x from T-Mobile. I'm running LauncherPro. I must have done something wrong because I backed up to SD card but after installing new phone it gave me an error reading SD card. I had to reset everything!
Anyway, I got a 2nd replacement (this is number 3 phone) because the 2nd one continued to have the random reboot issues.
This one is different from the other two. The icons in the top bar are smaller and the GPS signal button is different. Could this be an upgraded software?
It states Android 2.3.3, kernel version 2.6.32.9 and Software version LG-P999-V21e
Trouble is, this phone is way worse than either of the first two! I think only 1 reboot so far (1 day) but 3 times now after the phone sleeps I have to remove battery to turn it back on! And it will not allow me to mount the phone as a USB. Sometimes the message appears to turn on USB but it will not work. Touching the screen does nothing. Then the screens start to rapidly change.
Looking like number 4!

What other programs have you installed? These types of issues are almost always apps and not the OS or the hardware. The fact you are having similar problems with three phones seems to indicate that even more. Stop blaming the device and figure out what you are doing to it to screw it up.

Try installing the GB drivers to your computer via LG. That's what I had to do to get my phone to mount.
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jboxer said:
What other programs have you installed? These types of issues are almost always apps and not the OS or the hardware. The fact you are having similar problems with three phones seems to indicate that even more. Stop blaming the device and figure out what you are doing to it to screw it up.
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I agree. "I went through 8 G2x's and all of them did the same thing after I restored my backup..."
Also, get off the stock firmware as it is absolutely unstable (Sleep of Death (SOD) and resets). I've been running MIUI since mid-August and haven't had 1 reset or SoD. Most CM7 nightly builds are good but a few will cause issues. Look at the stable version of CM7 or Weapon.

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I agree. "I went through 8 G2x's and all of them did the same thing after I restored my backup..."
Also, get off the stock firmware as it is absolutely unstable (Sleep of Death (SOD) and resets). I've been running MIUI since mid-August and haven't had 1 reset or SoD. Most CM7 nightly builds are good but a few will cause issues. Look at the stable version of CM7 or Weapon.
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The stock Gingerbread firmware is absolutely rock solid. I have been running it since it was released and have had zero problems. The only change to the system is that I rooted it. If I install an app that gives me the slightest trouble I uninstall it immediately. There is nothing wrong with the GB rom as LG delivered it. The Froyo rom did have problems, but the GB rom is very good. Many of the custom roms are based on it and just have hacks and tweaks. Very few are compiled from source like CM is.

Update to Phone
First, let me say that T-Mobile Customer Service is great! Every time I call or visit the store they are friendly and try their best to help me.
I called T-Mobile and explained the issues on this phone, as one person wrote above the "SOD". She walked me through a bunch of steps, and I'm fine with that, I understand she has to be sure i have done all the typical troubleshooting. She confirmed that the new one had GB.
She is sending phone number 4 out today. Meanwhile she said go by the store to have them check the battery, just in case. I did that, it was kind of funny. Gal says, no need to test it, I'll just grab a new one. She comes back and inserts new battery, "There ya go, brand new battery". Ah, Miss, I say, it won't turn on now. "No, that can't be, its a new battery". She finally went and got me yet another new battery!
Hopefully this 4th phone will do the trick.
As for the apps, maybe I do need to uninstall some, but it seems like what I have are all mainstream apps:
Launcherpro
Beautiful Widgets
Touchdown Pro
Pure Calendar
Juice Defender
Batter Monitor Widget (free edition)
All of the above are paid apps too, not free versions (except Battery Monitor).
Any thoughts, known issues on these?
Thanks!

All those are pretty common apps, none of which I've had trouble with. Juice defender has been a cause of connectivity, etc issues for some people, but works fine on all my devices.
If I were you I would ***** until they replaced it with a Sensation, Amaze, SGS2, etc. I've seen so many people with 3,4,5,6 replacements on this board....why? As much as I like the form factor, the G2x is not worth 4 replacements. NO product is worth 4 replacements. Needing to have a product replaced is one thing, having to replace the replacement, or more, is ridiculous. Fool me once....
At what point do you say, "wow screw this POS." 4 replacements is a company jacking you around. I got lucky with a mostly mint G2x on launch day. Had it had issues I would have replaced it, beyond that..... the G2x is a nice phone, but there is absolutely zilch nada NOTHING special enough about it to deserve 4 replacements.
I don't mean to sound like a douche or harsh or anything. I just don't get why this is a recurring theme on this board. Would you do this with a pair of jeans, or with a TV, or with tires? No. The product sucked the first time, why repeat the experience?

I hear ya Adamhart. On the phone with CS today I asked this very question. She said I was not eligible for a different pone ... yet. She indicated that x number of returns within 90 days usually trips the option. First sign of trouble on number 4 and I will be calling. When the phone is working I like it, but I'd happily trade it for something else.
Thanks for the note on Juice Defender, I noticed on another thread some issues so for the moment I have it turned off.

Fouth Phone Arrived
So number 4 arrived next day. I set it up. Such a pain to have to reinstall everything. So far all is good. The battery life is not improved but one day later with no reboots and it starts up without a problem (no sleep of death!).
So far so good.....

I' ve been using an extended battery for a few months now and its been great. No reboots or SOD issues.
Couple of weeks ago I insert the stock battery. Within the hour I have 1 freeze up and 3 SOD! That stock battery is defective. Its been the cause of 80% of my problems with this device.

4th phone has same problems. Already posted a rant! I'm going to try rooting!

You know I never had a problem with my g2x and I see all these people going thru 3-6 phones THANK GOD I'm not on that statics.
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And I see mostly the ones who have problems don't usually nvflash cwm and install a custom rom.
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I broke my last one (slammed it on concrete) so got a replacement through Asurion, they sent me a refurb (as they tend to do).
thing worked well for the first day, albeit a bit weak on battery, then started having charge issues and general mis-reporting on the battery (it'd say 100% when it meant 20%, around 5 hours after being unplugged it would drop very steeply (~75%) to catch up)
I noticed on the 1809#*999# menu that the Factory Version was registering as Unknown. After a few more days of it being a pain in the ass I went ahead and did a Factory Reset. After which the Factory Version reported the correct numbers.
Works almost flawlessly now, I'm getting a good 30 hours of battery life out of the thing (mostly texting + standby). I'm currently using the default launcher with Go Contacts and Go SMS (It sucks Go Contacts can't clear missed calls properly on 2.3.3 but it's a minor complaint), Facebook, Battery Monitor Widget (3c), and a few other small apps.
Also, I noticed on my first phone that JuiceDefender seemed to cause Sleep of Death issues. At least thats what the process of elimination had me believe (and this was back on Froyo). IMO - just leave everything alone with regards to task killers and battery enhancers, GB actually does a very good job of battery management on its own.

I continued to have trouble with number 4. Called T-Mo. Long story short they said "nothing we can do until LG comes out with new software update".
Phone is just not useable the way it is (mine that is) so I finally followed the advice of so many on this board and I rooted the phone and installed CM7.
I was a little freaked out a first because CM7 looks so different. Now I am comfortable with it. I have loaded up all the apps and configurations again. So far it is good. A couple of times the phone shut down but that may be more to all the changes I have been doing. One the whole it is far more stable than stock. Battery life is a tad improved too, but still not great.

My mom is about to embark on her third try. She doesn't download apps at all. Phone won't hold call for more than a minute.