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Can I use a Blackberry Charger to charge my Droid?

My Samsung Droid Charge charger has an OUTPUT of the same voltage and 700 MILI amps.
My Blackberry Bold charger OUTPUT has the same voltage but is 1 AMP output... or 1,000 MILI amps.
If I use the Blackberry charger in my new Samsung Droid Charge will that mess anything up in the Samsung? could it shorten the life of the battery?
Thanks!

sure can, including wall chargers and car chargers

well if the amperage doesn't match exactly couldn't that mess up the Droid Charge?

it should be fine...but you might confuse your phone into thinking that it is a cutting edge smartphone circa 2006

If the power output of the charger you want to use is rated at less than what the OEM one is, you would only damage the charger itself if it isn't made properly.
The phone will pull a specific charge from the charger, say 500mA as an example. If the charger is rated at 400mA and doesn't have wiring to prevent an over-draw, you will damage the charger, especially if you use it for extended periods of time. If the charger does have circuitry to prevent over-drawing power, you'll just charge the phone slower. If you use a charger rated at 1000mA and the phone pulls down 500mA, using a higher rated charger doesn't make the phone charge faster as it will still just pull the 500mA. You'd just be less likely to damage the charger using one rated for more than what the device will accept.

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imnuts said:
If the power output of the charger you want to use is rated at less than what the OEM one is, you would only damage the charger itself if it isn't made properly.
The phone will pull a specific charge from the charger, say 500mA as an example. If the charger is rated at 400mA and doesn't have wiring to prevent an over-draw, you will damage the charger, especially if you use it for extended periods of time. If the charger does have circuitry to prevent over-drawing power, you'll just charge the phone slower. If you use a charger rated at 1000mA and the phone pulls down 500mA, using a higher rated charger doesn't make the phone charge faster as it will still just pull the 500mA. You'd just be less likely to damage the charger using one rated for more than what the device will accept.
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I had purchased a usb cable a couple of years ago on kijiji for my BB bold back then because I didnt have a charger for it. Then I got the S3 and one time I randomly used the BB cable connected to the S3 charger via USB, I noticed the phone charged WAYY faster than the normal S3 cable does. Now I got an S4, and it still charges a lot faster than the normal cable for it. In fact I'm charging both my S3 and S4 at the same time right now, the S3 with normal cable charged from 4% to 15% in the exact same amount of time my S4 charged from 48% to 72% with BB cable. Does this mean I'm damaging my charger that's connected to the BB cable?

FlashThisB said:
I had purchased a usb cable a couple of years ago on kijiji for my BB bold back then because I didnt have a charger for it. Then I got the S3 and one time I randomly used the BB cable connected to the S3 charger via USB, I noticed the phone charged WAYY faster than the normal S3 cable does. Now I got an S4, and it still charges a lot faster than the normal cable for it. In fact I'm charging both my S3 and S4 at the same time right now, the S3 with normal cable charged from 4% to 15% in the exact same amount of time my S4 charged from 48% to 72% with BB cable. Does this mean I'm damaging my charger that's connected to the BB cable?
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If by charger you mean that little box that plugs into the wall, that is actually a power supply. It just converts 120VAC 20A to 5VDC and whatever current it specifies. Also the stock s4 uses qualcomm quick charge, which means that if you use the stock power supply with the s4, it will charge at up to twice normal speed, provided you have a compatible cable (which it seems the BB cable is).
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Can you mess up the Droid Charge by leaving it plugged in overnight?

When the droid charge is fully charged it puts an alert on the screen saying so and saying to disconnect it from the charger... obviously when you are sleeping you won't see this message... so is it okay to keep the charger plugged in for like 12 hours? can the phone OVERcharge itself and hurt the battery life?

I have killed the battery and fully charged it and over charged on purposed and haven't seen this message.

ShotgunSam said:
I have killed the battery and fully charged it and over charged on purposed and haven't seen this message.
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I get the message too every time charge reaches 100%

No. Samsung Androids will stop charging at 100% (that's when the message pops) and won't start again until the battery has dropped to 95%.
Getting rid of the nag will be one of the first mods to drop.

yup message definately shows... but once the message shows does it automatically STOP accepting the charge or does it OVER charge itself if left plugged in?

Please reread my post.

just saw it now.. sorry..
how are you certain of this?
also, is it okay to use a Blackberry Bold AC charger on the Samsung Droid Charge? the output voltage is the same but the output Amps are slightly different.. the Droid Charger is 1,000 millamps output.. the blackberry charger is 700 miliamps output
s44 said:
Please reread my post.
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aliensquale said:
also, is it okay to use a Blackberry Bold AC charger on the Samsung Droid Charge? the output voltage is the same but the output Amps are slightly different.. the Droid Charger is 1,000 millamps output.. the blackberry charger is 700 miliamps output
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You might be ok using the BB charger, but I don't know. It would be safer to use one rated for 1000mA or greater. I haven't looked to see what the charging rate is yet on the Charge, but on the Fascinate it was only 600mA max.

aliensquale said:
how are you certain of this?
also, is it okay to use a Blackberry Bold AC charger on the Samsung Droid Charge? the output voltage is the same but the output Amps are slightly different.. the Droid Charger is 1,000 millamps output.. the blackberry charger is 700 miliamps output
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Because every other Samsung phone works like this.
Also, they auto-limit their current intake from charging cables (there was a *lot* of experimenting with these in the Vibrant and Captivate forums last year). So it's safe -- but no faster -- to use a higher-current charger. Lower-current should be fine, too -- they'll just take longer.
The main problem with using BB chargers:
(1) the micro-USB tip might not go in all the way. Other Galaxy S models (dunno about the Charge specifically) have a particularly recessed port that's finicky with many non-Samsung cables/chargers.
(2) the phone might not detect it as a wall charger. I believe Galaxy S phones detect to see if the data lines on USB are shorted together, which some but not all non-Samsung chargers do in the same way. If it doesn't detect as a wall unit, it will charge but the current intake will be much more restricted on the phone end (so it will take longer).
It may not give you the full 1a from the wall, but this cheap charger works great on older Galaxy S models.

thanks for the info.. well I guess I will have to figure out what the Samsung Droid Charge actually PULLS for the charge...
since the BB Charger is putting out 5 volts and 700 miliamps.. if the Samsung needs more than 700 miliamps then it may detect as a USB charger and just charge slower.. which really doesn't matter to me since it will be plugged in for about 8 hours straight while I'm sleeping... I just wanted to make sure I could NOT overcharge it and hurt something inside the phone.
I just found that if you go into the phone status screen under the settings and you plug it in via either USB or AC Charger it will say 'Charging USB' or 'Charging AC' respectively.. just tested that with a Blackberry Bold ac charger it it says 'Charging AC' so I guess the Droid Charge is pulling LESS than 700 milamps because that's what the BB Bold charger is outputting..

The Charge charges at 475mA via wireless charging or USB (computer) connection, and 800mA via wall charger. See here - lines 3125 to 3150.

imnuts said:
The Charge charges at 475mA via wireless charging or USB (computer) connection, and 800mA via wall charger. See here - lines 3125 to 3150.
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Good to know. I was wondering why usb charging took/felt longer than wall charging.
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yyhd said:
Good to know. I was wondering why usb charging took/felt longer than wall charging.
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Most devices work this way. USB power via your computer can't safely sustain the charge rate that a wall outlet can. To avoid issues, they just set it up to charge slower over the USB connection compared to via a wall charger.

Long story short: if the phone manufacturer has any common sense they know to stop the charging at 100%, let it back off to about 90% and trickle it. That's how most new smartphones work.

aliensquale said:
When the droid charge is fully charged it puts an alert on the screen saying so and saying to disconnect it from the charger... obviously when you are sleeping you won't see this message... so is it okay to keep the charger plugged in for like 12 hours? can the phone OVERcharge itself and hurt the battery life?
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Nope, the phone stops charging when the battery reaches target voltage and shuts the port off completely if the battery gets over a certain temperature.

[Q] Can HOX be charged by 2.1A car charger?

I am going to buy a car charger for my new HOX, but it only has one 2.1A usb output. I know the charging current of the HOX wall charger is 1A, but I think 2.1A should work fine or even charge faster. But my concern is if the larger current would hurt my battery or shorten its lifetime.
Some ppl said the phone itself would take 1A current anyway due to some kind of threshold control inside, but I am not sure about it. So pls let me know if you know the truth. Appreciate it!
ps. I sent an email about this problem to HTC customer care 2 days ago but still no response yet. I will post the official answer when I get their answer.
UPDATE: Here is the official response from HTC about charging current, it seems that HOX does not intelligently control its charging current:
Dear yydnl,
Thanks for getting back to me, yydnl. The One X was designed with the intention of only using 5V 1A chargers. Anything more will cause damage to the phone over time. The phone was not designed to alter the current coming into the phone through the charger. I recommend that you only use the supplied HTC charger with your device.

Yeah I'd like to know. I never opened the oem charger and am currently using my bb playbook charger which shoots out 1.8A. I'm hoping the answer is no damage with a faster charge.

Yep, it'll work fine. Chargers don't "push" the charge, the phone pulls it. If the phone is only designed to charge at 1000ma, then it will only pull that current. So you could use a 10 amp charger and it will be fine, only difference is that with that high a capacity, you'll be able to charge 10 phones at the full charging rate. Changing the voltage, that's a different story.
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There is no problem of the voltage of the car charger because that is 5V as the oem charger, but do you know if HOX is designed to intelligently pull the proper amount of current? or will it take any current fed to it?

yydnl said:
There is no problem of the voltage of the car charger because that is 5V as the oem charger, but do you know if HOX is designed to intelligently pull the proper amount of current? or will it take any current fed to it?
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All Li-ion batteries have intelligent charging circuits. Otherwise, it will simply explode.
I won't worry about 2.1A at all. The problem is other way around, i.e. whether or not the phone will take more than 500ma from your 2.1A charger. It depends on how your charger is wired. If the phone only detects a generic USB connection, it will only charge max 500ma. It requires special wiring from the USB port to allow phone to switch to AC charging mode to draw more current. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell until you have the charger and try it out. One thing for sure, those chargers designed for iPhone/iPad typically won't be recorgnzied by other phones as AC chargers.

foxbat121 said:
All Li-ion batteries have intelligent charging circuits. Otherwise, it will simply explode.
I won't worry about 2.1A at all. The problem is other way around, i.e. whether or not the phone will take more than 500ma from your 2.1A charger. It depends on how your charger is wired. If the phone only detects a generic USB connection, it will only charge max 500ma. It requires special wiring from the USB port to allow phone to switch to AC charging mode to draw more current. Unfortunately, there is no way to tell until you have the charger and try it out. One thing for sure, those chargers designed for iPhone/iPad typically won't be recorgnzied by other phones as AC chargers.
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Gotcha, the car charger I am going to buy is for iphone, but it also claims to be able to charge phones of htc, sony etc. So I guess it is possible to have the ac charging detection.

yydnl said:
Gotcha, the car charger I am going to buy is for iphone, but it also claims to be able to charge phones of htc, sony etc. So I guess it is possible to have the ac charging detection.
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My money is on that it won't be recognized as AC charger. iPhone has special requirement on data PIN wiring that is not compatible with other phone. Yes, you can charge other phones but probably not at anything over 500ma.

Pls see my updates, it seems that 2.1A charger is not safe.

New battery charger

Hello,
my battery charger stopped working and i need a new one. I read a few review and i'm a bit confuesd, not every chargers with the capability to deliver 1000mAh works with every device. So which one oft them works with the desire s and delivers 1000mAh and not just 500mAh?

just buy a oem wall charger ,, easily found on ebay and also cheap

does it has any difference between 1000 and 500mah chargers? now i'm using original liveview charger with 500mah on it but also have 1A iPhone charger.

vartotojas123 said:
does it has any difference between 1000 and 500mah chargers? now i'm using original liveview charger with 500mah on it but also have 1A iPhone charger.
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I also have a 1A charger (coming from a SGS3), but I haven't had any problem

MatthewJoe said:
I also have a 1A charger (coming from a SGS3), but I haven't had any problem
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same here

Overheating
im using an old S2 charger i think, its got an output of 5V, 0.7 amps and after flashing a costom rom, jellyfirebean im getting serious overheating issues, but only while charging with the phone on.
however i cant confirm this is the chargers problem yet
just a note, its the phone that heats up not the charger

coolkid12239 said:
im using an old S2 charger i think, its got an output of 5V, 0.7 amps and after flashing a costom rom, jellyfirebean im getting serious overheating issues, but only while charging with the phone on.
however i cant confirm this is the chargers problem yet
just a note, its the phone that heats up not the charger
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no the phone never heats up using original wall charger

Talha7866 said:
no the phone never heats up using original wall charger
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Double that. Overheating can be only caused by the phone itself, or a defected battery (means it is near death, but for serius heating, you will notice like 1hrs of battery life for the phone).
On another note for the topic. I use 3 type of chargers for my phones:
At home my ASUS tab's one (which is rated 5V 1A at the standard USB, plus the extra for the dock, but it is ASUS specific), at work an old ZTE "dumbphone" charger (which is rated 5V 0.75A, and is a high frequency switching type, so really energy-efficient) and for any other my old SE X8's one, which is 5V 650mA (which is also switching type). Also dedicated charger cables, 1 nokia, 1 SE, 1 HTC and 1 ZTE at my car.
The phone's original 5V 1A is NRFB at the box of the phone, but I have a security backup Samsung charger (rated 5V 500mA and pass-trough type, so not really efficient, but stable) which works just fine. The S is not capable (or not enabled just yet) of fast charge mode AFAIK so no really chance for 500mA or more when charging (even when GPS and 3G on, and screen on max, which is aroung 430mA when I last measued it with a service cable).

reporting back
yeah i can confirm it was the 2 year old htc battery
i am now using 2 anker 1600mah batterys and they last a LOT longer + come with an enternal charger so i always have one charged, it also charges the old htc battery too externally so i can now use 3 battieries mwahahahaa
note i did have to delete battery stats in cwm to recalibrate

Charging Speeds

Hi,
Wanted your thoughts and opinions on charging speeds. I've never actually timed how long it takes to charge. i leave it overnight and it's ready when i wake up.
When i plug the phone into the charger, it flashes up slow charging for 2 seconds then disappears. which got me wondering how much it's actually using.
i used to use Current Widget app on my Samsung S3 which told me exactly how much current the phone was taking from the charger. typically it was 1A via AC/mains and 499mA from a PC. Plugged in to AC, I could play a power hungry game and it would still charge the phone at a good rate.
The LG kernel doesn't like these apps - the mA value is all over the place but it's typically <500mA displayed.
I could buy a USB ammeter to work out how much the USB charger is supplying but do you have any other methods of finding out? Do you know what your phone uses?
at home, i use a Xtrememac dual USB charger, 2x 2.1A output with a shielded 3M USB cable. for those wondering, it's the same regardless what cable i use. Have also tried with generic usb chargers, iPad chargers and official and OEM cables from LG and various other manufacturers. Have also used a data-shorted USB cable from PC which is the same result.
I haven't tried the LG charger yet (mainly as it's a 2 flat-pin plug and i don't know where i put the box) but i think i recall it being a 1.8A charger.

I use an application called "charger report" which can display current consumption and Xtar "USB detector" device. They both show the same numbers. But Xtar USB detector can detect voltage of a charger. The charging current of LG g pro 2 is 1.4-1.5A when the smartphone is not used and higher when I use it. Using USB detector I found out that this smartphone can charge with maximum current a charger can give only if the charger's voltage is 5.3v. So it chargers at full speed with original charger and two other chargers I have: a charger from my Lenovo s6000 (2A 5.4V) and from my Asus t100 (2A 5.3V).

i tried that app too and got the same results as with Current Widget.
i'll buy a "usb detector". thanks.

I forgot to mention that it take approximately two hours for charging indicator to reach 100% when the smartphone reports that it fully charged. And it's necessary to left it connected to a charger for ten to twenty minutes to be really fully charged. Otherwise charging indicator will soon drop to 90%. One can tell if a smartphone is still charging by touching a charger or by looking at current consumption: a charger would be warm and current would be higher than 200mA.

Is the GP2 Quick Charge (1 or 2) enabled? I can't read anything about it other than it's in Snapdragon chipsets. Not sure if it can be disabled or not.

ray-lee said:
Is the GP2 Quick Charge (1 or 2) enabled? I can't read anything about it other than it's in Snapdragon chipsets. Not sure if it can be disabled or not.
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The Snapdragon 800,801 and 805 is for Quick Charge 2.0
The Snapdragon 600 for 1.0

ok, does anyone use a Quick Charger with their GP2? is it noticeably faster?

not yet available in Austria, I have read it kills the battery life on

ray-lee said:
Hi,
Wanted your thoughts and opinions on charging speeds. I've never actually timed how long it takes to charge. i leave it overnight and it's ready when i wake up.
When i plug the phone into the charger, it flashes up slow charging for 2 seconds then disappears. which got me wondering how much it's actually using.
i used to use Current Widget app on my Samsung S3 which told me exactly how much current the phone was taking from the charger. typically it was 1A via AC/mains and 499mA from a PC. Plugged in to AC, I could play a power hungry game and it would still charge the phone at a good rate.
The LG kernel doesn't like these apps - the mA value is all over the place but it's typically <500mA displayed.
I could buy a USB ammeter to work out how much the USB charger is supplying but do you have any other methods of finding out? Do you know what your phone uses?
at home, i use a Xtrememac dual USB charger, 2x 2.1A output with a shielded 3M USB cable. for those wondering, it's the same regardless what cable i use. Have also tried with generic usb chargers, iPad chargers and official and OEM cables from LG and various other manufacturers. Have also used a data-shorted USB cable from PC which is the same result.
I haven't tried the LG charger yet (mainly as it's a 2 flat-pin plug and i don't know where i put the box) but i think i recall it being a 1.8A charger.
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Hey ray-lee!
I just bought this phone and as it seems it could get someday similar problems as my former phone the Galaxy Note 2.
That phone has had problems with charger and cable also. I had to buy another set of charger and cable since the original ones gave up a few months after i purchased the phone (it was used). The cable managed only 500mA wich is very slow for a battery that strong. One night was once not enough to charge my phone from 30% to 100%. As it seems it is problematic to manufacture cables, that can hold up and continually grant the 1,8 A that would charge our device in just 2 hours. I read somewhere that the G Pro 2 is one of 5 devices that has blazing fast speeds on charging the battery. If you handle the cables with caution hopefully you will not encounter problems. If so my guess is, that you will have a hard time in finding a cable that can hold up. Sadly the stock cables are always more expensive. I do not get it, why companies dont build travel adapters that only charge ur phones built solid with sturdy cables to ensure the transmission of high currents. That way with charger + usb cable is just stupid, even when tis is an all in one solution.
I like this phone very much and i hope, that the cables will not be that sloppy as the cables that Samsung had/ still has. With Current Widget i get readings around 1500 mA (1,5 A) when connected to the stock charger. And yes the LG Charger is an 1,8 A one. I have also flat pins, but received an adapter to be able to connect it in Hugary.
Just sharing thoughts here, that will maybe helpful to someone...
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2amp charger, charges my Pro 2 in apprx 1 hour while my old LG 1amp charger fills it in 1.40 hours apprx

ray-lee said:
Is the GP2 Quick Charge (1 or 2) enabled? I can't read anything about it other than it's in Snapdragon chipsets. Not sure if it can be disabled or not.
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i "think" as long as device has snapdragon it is Quick Charge enabled

I use the "Charging Report" app on my phone, and it reports proper values.
(Around 1500mAh with the LG charger, and around 1600mAh with the 2.0A Samsung charger.)
If your phone is charging slowly, check the CABLE. Cable can broke too.
(Many people complain about their Samsung charging cables, because they just stop delivering power after a while and just charge the device slowly.)

Anyone tried Quick charge 2.0?? https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge

enkhtwshn said:
Anyone tried Quick charge 2.0?? https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
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All Devices with the Snapdragon 800 have Quick Charge 2.0!

letschky said:
All Devices with the Snapdragon 800 have Quick Charge 2.0!
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So anyone tried it? That is the question

Yes, I have the Motorola Turbo Charger.

coastalmikey said:
Yes, I have the Motorola Turbo Charger.
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How long does it charge from 0-50 from50-100 from 0-100?

There aren't many chargers out there. and the ones that are, are usually US 2 pin. I need a UK 3 pin or travel charger (changeable pins) really.

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To achieve full charging speeds, a Quick Charge 2.0 enabled device must be paired with a Quick Charge 2.0 certified adapter