I accidentally made a generous bid on a 800w on eBay (I am stupid). While the phone is still really useful without the phone functions (GPS, Wi-Fi, frontal keyboard, better speed than TyTN), I was wondering if I could make it work with Rogers in Canada without having some undesirable people to knock at my door..
Auction is there, as you can see I'm currently the high bidder...
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220271602995&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT&ih=012
Lesson learned.
Isn't Rogers GSM? Like AT&T and T-Mobile in the US? Sprint uses CDMA, which is totally different. Not cross-compatible.
TerryMathews said:
Isn't Rogers GSM? Like AT&T and T-Mobile in the US? Sprint uses CDMA, which is totally different. Not cross-compatible.
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Yeah, I discovered that later. I tought CDMA was for backward-ish carriers.
Anyway if I can find a better deal (he seems to have tons of them), I'll buy one for the GPS, Wi-Fi and all the stuff that make this phone an incredible one.
It looks like Palm finally understood something about what we want, need and ask for. It's been a while!
BAD ESN in FRANCE???
Hi,
Do you think this phone could work in FRANCE?
Could you tell me please what are Sprint and CDMA.
Thanks
rfjc said:
Hi,
Do you think this phone could work in FRANCE?
Could you tell me please what are Sprint and CDMA.
Thanks
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I don't think that it will work in France cause in western europe the cell phones are equipped with a so called SIM-Card instead of a ESN. This means Your carrier gives you the SIM-Card (which contains Your phone number) and this will work in every phone (but some phones are temporarily blocked for other carriers with SIM-Lock).
It might be that the carrier (there is only o2) in the czech republic works with ESN.
Ok,
thank you for explanations.
So i have an HTC One S that i Bought and it has a blocked IMEI i bought it for dirt cheap because the IMEI was blocked. Is there anyway i can unblock this phone? Like maybe rooting and it putting a custom rom on it? Will this fix my issue? If anyone could help me answer this or give me some feedback it would be awesome
Thanks.
You most likely won't be able to use it in the country you bought it in unless you get the network that banned the IMEI to remove the ban.
It's useless now. You could unlock it and use it on another carrier.
If you're in the UK it won't work on any network.
All you can do is sell it abroad.
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It's useless now. You could unlock it and use it on another carrier.
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only in another Country
Hi All,
I know this question might have been asked in different forms, but I still want to double check and be at peace.
I have purchased a Verizon Razr Maxx HD - seller claims it to be brand new, clean ESN and International ready. I am importing this to India where the Frequency Band of my service provider Vodafone is GSM - 900/1800 MHZ, HSPA - 2100 MHZ, 4G LTE - 2300 MHZ
Since Verizon uses CDMA technology in the US, I was initially not very sure if this will work in India. But I researched quite a bit and found that as per the phone Specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_razr_maxx_hd-4972.php, I should be able connect to GSM and 3G (4G is still a dream here in India)
I then confirmed from Verizon and XDA threads that the phone is indeed International ready i.e. in US it is locked for Verizon, but it will work with most networks GSM/HSPA/4G abroad so it doesn't require any separate unlocking for International Use. Is this correct? If the seller says that the phone has a clean ESN, then do I need to unlock the phone separately?
Once my friend in US receives the phone tomorrow, I plan to check the ESN here: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/estore/certifieddevice/cd and also with Verizon Customer Care. Some other XDA members in India and abroad are facing difficulty in connecting to 2G/3G ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100093) so I am worried, if my money will go to waste, although on paper all seems fine. Certain seller on ebay India is saying that it will only work on CDMA networks. So there is a lot of confusion creeping in.
If there is anything other precautionary measures that I should take, before my friend ships the phone to India? Any help is deeply appreciated.
PS: Motorola has discontinued there India business (yes no local support or warranty!) , but I really adore the Razr line of phones so much (for there build quality, great battery life and vanilla UI) that I am treading this path. Only (huge) concern is if the phone will connect to the network
siddroid said:
Hi All,
I know this question might have been asked in different forms, but I still want to double check and be at peace.
I have purchased a Verizon Razr Maxx HD - seller claims it to be brand new, clean ESN and International ready. I am importing this to India where the Frequency Band of my service provider Vodafone is GSM - 900/1800 MHZ, HSPA - 2100 MHZ, 4G LTE - 2300 MHZ
Since Verizon uses CDMA technology in the US, I was initially not very sure if this will work in India. But I researched quite a bit and found that as per the phone Specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_razr_maxx_hd-4972.php, I should be able connect to GSM and 3G (4G is still a dream here in India)
I then confirmed from Verizon and XDA threads that the phone is indeed International ready i.e. in US it is locked for Verizon, but it will work with most networks GSM/HSPA/4G abroad so it doesn't require any separate unlocking for International Use. Is this correct? If the seller says that the phone has a clean ESN, then do I need to unlock the phone separately?
Once my friend in US receives the phone tomorrow, I plan to check the ESN here: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/estore/certifieddevice/cd and also with Verizon Customer Care. Some other XDA members in India and abroad are facing difficulty in connecting to 2G/3G ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100093) so I am worried, if my money will go to waste, although on paper all seems fine. Certain seller on ebay India is saying that it will only work on CDMA networks. So there is a lot of confusion creeping in.
If there is anything other precautionary measures that I should take, before my friend ships the phone to India? Any help is deeply appreciated.
PS: Motorola has discontinued there India business (yes no local support or warranty!) , but I really adore the Razr line of phones so much (for there build quality, great battery life and vanilla UI) that I am treading this path. Only (huge) concern is if the phone will connect to the network
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Don't have any fear ... your phone will work great in gsm and hspa ... !
o2qc418 said:
Don't have any fear ... your phone will work great in gsm and hspa ... !
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Thanks! The phone was finally delivered yesterday. So I noted the IMEI number and called up Verizon. They said that it has a clean ESN but it is still activated with Verizon. But I am sure what does that really mean.. Will it work properly on any other SIM? I could imagine two scenarios:
As I understand, as soon as the original owner of the phone (eBay seller) stops the monthly bill payment, the connection will get cancelled first and then Verizon will try to claim the phone back. As the seller doesn't have this phone anymore, it is at this time that the phone will start giving SIM card errors to me as the ESN will become bad. Is that correct?
The seller claims, that she got this phone as a contract upgrade but did not use it all. So she must have activated this SIM on some other phone or her older phone. Wouldn't verizon come to know of this and deactivate this SIM card or blacklist list this user and report the phone IMEI. I am clueless on this one.
Overall, I feel that this is a deal breaker for me. And I am planning to return the phone. Any suggestions?
PS: Anyone wondering why I am going through so much trouble? I am in love with this phone (sturdy build quality and best battery!) And it is not available in India for retail.
You shouldn't have any issues unless you plan to use it on a CDMA network owned by Verizon.
Just pull the Verizon SIM out of the phone and pop in your favorite Indian SIM. Be sure to switch the phone to the Global network mode (or GSM/UMTS) and you'll be good to go. Doesn't matter what happens to the seller's account in the US, the phone will still work -- although perhaps not on VZW in the US, in case you travel here. For that matter, the phone won't work in the US at all, as the radio firmware specifically blocks ATT/TMobile.
They'll be an annoying "This SIM is from an unknown source" message every time you start the phone, but that is easily bypassed by pressing OK. I read on here somewhere that the unknown message is actually generated by a VZW *.apk that is installed on the phone. So theoretically one could root the phone and remove the annoying apk/message.
Also, you won't be able to do tethering using the stock utilities -- they try to phone home to Verizon and don't work when on a foreign network (I tried while I was in Australia last week on Optus, it failed miserably.)
Cpudan80 said:
For that matter, the phone won't work in the US at all, as the radio firmware specifically blocks ATT/TMobile.
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For that matter, there is a recently discovered working unlock for that too, and it doesn't even require root
He won't need it though.
Cpudan80 said:
They'll be an annoying "This SIM is from an unknown source" message every time you start the phone, but that is easily bypassed by pressing OK. I read on here somewhere that the unknown message is actually generated by a VZW *.apk that is installed on the phone. So theoretically one could root the phone and remove the annoying apk/message.
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Theoretically and in practice, this has been done (just search...).
Cpudan80 said:
Also, you won't be able to do tethering using the stock utilities -- they try to phone home to Verizon and don't work when on a foreign network (I tried while I was in Australia last week on Optus, it failed miserably.)
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And again there is a fix if you root the phone, it involves editing a sqlite db and setting a value to zero (again search... Don't have the link handy, sorry...).
Sent from my XT907
Cpudan80 said:
Just pull the Verizon SIM out of the phone and pop in your favorite Indian SIM. Be sure to switch the phone to the Global network mode (or GSM/UMTS) and you'll be good to go. Doesn't matter what happens to the seller's account in the US, the phone will still work -- although perhaps not on VZW in the US, in case you travel here. For that matter, the phone won't work in the US at all, as the radio firmware specifically blocks ATT/TMobile.
They'll be an annoying "This SIM is from an unknown source" message every time you start the phone, but that is easily bypassed by pressing OK. I read on here somewhere that the unknown message is actually generated by a VZW *.apk that is installed on the phone. So theoretically one could root the phone and remove the annoying apk/message.
Also, you won't be able to do tethering using the stock utilities -- they try to phone home to Verizon and don't work when on a foreign network (I tried while I was in Australia last week on Optus, it failed miserably.)
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I see you've tried rooting the phone in the states, so the phone will just show a message that can be removed after rooting the phone and the phone will work on 3G/HSDPA in the states even without using a verizon account?
i have seen a number of people reporting the phone not to be working in India .
I have Razr HD in India & It doesnt work for any GSM
Is it working with Indian GSM
siddroid said:
Hi All,
I know this question might have been asked in different forms, but I still want to double check and be at peace.
I have purchased a Verizon Razr Maxx HD - seller claims it to be brand new, clean ESN and International ready. I am importing this to India where the Frequency Band of my service provider Vodafone is GSM - 900/1800 MHZ, HSPA - 2100 MHZ, 4G LTE - 2300 MHZ
Since Verizon uses CDMA technology in the US, I was initially not very sure if this will work in India. But I researched quite a bit and found that as per the phone Specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_razr_maxx_hd-4972.php, I should be able connect to GSM and 3G (4G is still a dream here in India)
I then confirmed from Verizon and XDA threads that the phone is indeed International ready i.e. in US it is locked for Verizon, but it will work with most networks GSM/HSPA/4G abroad so it doesn't require any separate unlocking for International Use. Is this correct? If the seller says that the phone has a clean ESN, then do I need to unlock the phone separately?
Once my friend in US receives the phone tomorrow, I plan to check the ESN here: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/estore/certifieddevice/cd and also with Verizon Customer Care. Some other XDA members in India and abroad are facing difficulty in connecting to 2G/3G ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100093) so I am worried, if my money will go to waste, although on paper all seems fine. Certain seller on ebay India is saying that it will only work on CDMA networks. So there is a lot of confusion creeping in.
If there is anything other precautionary measures that I should take, before my friend ships the phone to India? Any help is deeply appreciated.
PS: Motorola has discontinued there India business (yes no local support or warranty!) , but I really adore the Razr line of phones so much (for there build quality, great battery life and vanilla UI) that I am treading this path. Only (huge) concern is if the phone will connect to the network
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Did you try out. Is it working for any GSM sim ? If yes, how did you do it ?
parin11 said:
I have Razr HD in India & It doesnt work for any GSM
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What are u planning to do with the phone if it does not work?
bhatias said:
What are u planning to do with the phone if it does not work?
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Very interesting thread and an even more interesting question.
I wonder what happened to the OP.
I have seen some ads. for used Razr HD's recently.
I am confused if those will work in India or not, but the phones are indeed very well built.
I thought you just had to change the mobile networks under settings and it would work.
Motorola Droid Razr Maxx HD
siddroid said:
Hi All,
I know this question might have been asked in different forms, but I still want to double check and be at peace.
I have purchased a Verizon Razr Maxx HD - seller claims it to be brand new, clean ESN and International ready. I am importing this to India where the Frequency Band of my service provider Vodafone is GSM - 900/1800 MHZ, HSPA - 2100 MHZ, 4G LTE - 2300 MHZ
Since Verizon uses CDMA technology in the US, I was initially not very sure if this will work in India. But I researched quite a bit and found that as per the phone Specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_razr_maxx_hd-4972.php, I should be able connect to GSM and 3G (4G is still a dream here in India)
I then confirmed from Verizon and XDA threads that the phone is indeed International ready i.e. in US it is locked for Verizon, but it will work with most networks GSM/HSPA/4G abroad so it doesn't require any separate unlocking for International Use. Is this correct? If the seller says that the phone has a clean ESN, then do I need to unlock the phone separately?
Once my friend in US receives the phone tomorrow, I plan to check the ESN here: http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/estore/certifieddevice/cd and also with Verizon Customer Care. Some other XDA members in India and abroad are facing difficulty in connecting to 2G/3G ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100093) so I am worried, if my money will go to waste, although on paper all seems fine. Certain seller on ebay India is saying that it will only work on CDMA networks. So there is a lot of confusion creeping in.
If there is anything other precautionary measures that I should take, before my friend ships the phone to India? Any help is deeply appreciated.
PS: Motorola has discontinued there India business (yes no local support or warranty!) , but I really adore the Razr line of phones so much (for there build quality, great battery life and vanilla UI) that I am treading this path. Only (huge) concern is if the phone will connect to the network
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So is your Droid Razr Maxx Hd working fine with the Indian GSM carrier? Me too looking for a Droid razr maxx hd from US (Verizon Locked with clean ESN). Need a confrimation as this is highly priced & i don't wanna waste my hard earned money. Your reply is appreciated. Thanks
I've been using it since a couple of months now on the Vodafone network and works fine. Gives a HDSP+ network for 3G connections. Rest your doubts the phone works fine in India.
IMischief
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Motorola Droid Razr Maxx Hd
eMischief said:
I've been using it since a couple of months now on the Vodafone network and works fine. Gives a HDSP+ network for 3G connections. Rest your doubts the phone works fine in India.
IMischief
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Thanks for replying. Where do you stay in Mumbai? If possible giv me ur Contact Numb.
Hi, I'm also but droid razr maxx hd from eBay, I'm using it on Indonesia gsm, just insert the sim card and no problem at all
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The phone is actually GLOBAL READY NOT GLOBAL UNLCOKED
Well I bought my droid razr maxx brand new from eBay and since I knew it's global "ready" I directly brought it to Iran. I've tried a couple of non-Verizon SIMs but non of them worked. when I turn on the phone it simply doesn't recognize the SIM and doesn't let me get past the "Insert SIM" screen. So I thought there should be a problem with the phone as a result I sent it back to US and Motorola for repair and they sent it back saying no functional faults were found. yesterday I chatted with a Motorola agent and she told me "you should have had an international plan with Verizon" before taking it to countries other than US" here's the link which confirms this statement:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/86286
When it says global ready it means that it has GSM capabilities rather than only CDMA capability and better say it's NOT GLOBALLY UNLOCKED.
valapsp said:
Well I bought my droid razr maxx brand new from eBay and since I knew it's global "ready" I directly brought it to Iran. I've tried a couple of non-Verizon SIMs but non of them worked. when I turn on the phone it simply doesn't recognize the SIM and doesn't let me get past the "Insert SIM" screen. So I thought there should be a problem with the phone as a result I sent it back to US and Motorola for repair and they sent it back saying no functional faults were found. yesterday I chatted with a Motorola agent and she told me "you should have had an international plan with Verizon" before taking it to countries other than US" here's the link which confirms this statement:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/86286
When it says global ready it means that it has GSM capabilities rather than only CDMA capability and better say it's NOT GLOBALLY UNLOCKED.
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Did you ever resolve your GSM issue? If not, there's a video tut in my sig (Unlocked) for RAZR M and Maxx HD for both US and international carriers
androidx219 said:
Did you try out. Is it working for any GSM sim ? If yes, how did you do it ?
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First try OTA update via WiFi and if it doesn't then try this.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2022296
Hi, what about using the phone that has bad esn (and has a sim card slot and works in GSM mode) abroad? An example is the LG G2 with verizon. Can I easily get one even will have a bad esn, unlock it by IMEI and use for example in France in GSM mode?
Or what if I buy phone that is locked at the factory and has bad IMEI in the United States. Is outside the state without any problem the phone is ready for use? or must be factory unlocked because the bad imei do not get IMEI code to unlock. How is it, please explain to me.
I met with different opinions.
vivatbg said:
Hi, what about using the phone that has bad esn (and has a sim card slot and works in GSM mode) abroad? An example is the LG G2 with verizon. Can I easily get one even will have a bad esn, unlock it by IMEI and use for example in France in GSM mode?
Or what if I buy phone that is locked at the factory and has bad IMEI in the United States. Is outside the state without any problem the phone is ready for use? or must be factory unlocked because the bad imei do not get IMEI code to unlock. How is it, please explain to me.
I met with different opinions.
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Hi,
I am not really sure what you are trying to do and what you mean by "bad IMEI." I am going to close this thread because it is illegal in a lot of places to even discuss the ways and means of changing an IMEI number. This is largely because blacklisting IMEIs from stolen phones is a strong deterrent against phone theft.
Sorry for the thread closure :silly: