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Is there an Internet filter program equivalent to some parental filters? I need something that cannot be uninstalled of modified without master password. Something equivalent to k9 windows software.
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Anything can be easily uninstalled - I think you're SOL.
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Here is an option for filtering the Market:
http://parentalcontrolcenter.com/content-filtering-for-android-devices/
Any internet filter is going to be useless anyway because of the countless options for bypassing them.
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Best I've found is a monitor. X3watch emails a person of your choice a report of any suspicious websites visited on your phone. Not a filter, but it lets you know what's happening on your phone so you can catch any problems. Easily disabled, but it reports that, too. So you know if it is being bypassed.
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x3watch apparently is only for froyo and based on reviews not good on updates.
Anyone else know of any other software filter?
ChadZ,
Would you provide a little more information please? For example lets say this is your phone and when you get home from work you let your little ones use it. But you do not want them wondering into the wrong site. As long as they are on wifi you control then Open DNS would work. And that would cover all your devices over that router.
If this is over the towers then that is a different ball game. But at that point do you really think you have prevented the porn searches? If the little one is out in public all they have to do is go to a friends house or use their phone. At that point education seems like a better option.
Dave
kraisydave said:
ChadZ,
Would you provide a little more information please? For example lets say this is your phone and when you get home from work you let your little ones use it. But you do not want them wondering into the wrong site. As long as they are on wifi you control then Open DNS would work. And that would cover all your devices over that router.
If this is over the towers then that is a different ball game. But at that point do you really think you have prevented the porn searches? If the little one is out in public all they have to do is go to a friends house or use their phone. At that point education seems like a better option.
Dave
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education seems like a better option.
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Education is always a better option.
I keep trying to convince the wife about this, rather than crapping up all the computers in the house with software that's annoying at best, crippling at worst.
Well I was bored so i started looking into profiles. I ran across Diabolic Jr profile and it said "Account currently disabled" after doing more digging i got it confirmed by a mod that he has been banned for "Specific Reasons". It only took forever.
Edit: looks like the lovely mods let him back in. Got hopes up for nothing. Thanks alot mods. Grrrrr
Sorry to sound stupid but who is this guy? I remember he posted a thread earlier saying something like "should I?" (assuming to come back to make more roms) and was garnered with hatred by alot of users.
He used to post alot of roms for this device lik 6 most were horrifying except like 2 plus he would complain about lack of gb or samsung support n trolled a little bit he moved on seemed kind of cocky typical 14 to 16 yearold im 15 myself he was a much better person prior to dec after that he turned rude
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Sorry to sound stupid but who is this guy? I remember he posted a thread earlier saying something like "should I?" (assuming to come back to make more roms) and was garnered with hatred by alot of users.
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He was the ultimate kang master. He stole alot of work from ayoteddy. Sduvick. Whitehawk. Etc etc. He would try to sound like he really knew his stuff. But at the end of the day he was just another typical kang master. When i found out he was FINALLY banned i jumped for joy. Lol.
Yea and he NEVER gave credit. Ever.
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What if he comes back under a new username? :O
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What if he comes back under a new username? :O
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Let him. They will just keep banning him. Im sure the mods can track ip addresses. Hes not the brightest cranyon in the box so i doubt he would be smart enough to change ip addresses.
Some kang r better than dev. Welcome to internet age ofc ip address always change.
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Some kang r better than dev. Welcome to internet age ofc ip address always change.
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That is true but only to a point. Wireless internet IE cable/broadband is always the same. Only if you change the modem does the ip address change. But if you are on a wireless network IE sprint verizon tmobile etc etc it is ever changing. However the gate ip address is always the same. Each state has its own gate ip address. The only way to change that is to move to another state.
sprint blackberry phones (and probably verizon too, since they are both cdma networks) have an option called enable static ip address, when enabled, it always shows your ip adress as 0000 etc etc. by now there are probably some android devices with this option. not to mention the fact that websites only record the ip adress you register with. all he had to do was register with a different ip address or a static ip address. hell, i have been banned from other forum sites and all i did was use a different email address. its not that hard to register with fake information.
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sprint blackberry phones (and probably verizon too, since they are both cdma networks) have an option called enable static ip address, when enabled, it always shows your ip adress as 0000 etc etc. by now there are probably some android devices with this option. not to mention the fact that websites only record the ip adress you register with. all he had to do was register with a different ip address or a static ip address. hell, i have been banned from other forum sites and all i did was use a different email address. its not that hard to register with fake information.
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True. But if people that have been banned attempt to use mobile device to by pass that xda can block remote access to sprint verizon tmobile etc etc there by rendering any registering from ip addresses belonging to said carriers not possible. Its very simple.
first, i doubt the mods can really block remote access to carriers ip addresses. second, even if they could, i doubt they would go to that much trouble just for this guy diabolic. they would also have to know it was him that was trying to do that, and unless they did it in the past, they have no record to go by. third, even if they did block him from using a static ip address, all he has to do then is go to the library. as i said before, they only record the ip address you register with. the library will obviously have a different ip address than his home computer. once he registers with a different ip address, he can log on through his home computer without being detected. it is really not that hard to get back into a website that you have been banned from. the mods arent going to go to a lot of trouble to keep him from coming back. whatever security measures this website has are most likely automated, as with most websites. its much more realistic to think that they will just ban him again if they catch him using this site.
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first, i doubt the mods can really block remote access to carriers ip addresses. second, even if they could, i doubt they would go to that much trouble just for this guy diabolic. they would also have to know it was him that was trying to do that, and unless they did it in the past, they have no record to go by. third, even if they did block him from using a static ip address, all he has to do then is go to the library. as i said before, they only record the ip address you register with. the library will obviously have a different ip address than his home computer. once he registers with a different ip address, he can log on through his home computer without being detected. it is really not that hard to get back into a website that you have been banned from. the mods arent going to go to a lot of trouble to keep him from coming back. whatever security measures this website has are most likely automated, as with most websites. its much more realistic to think that they will just ban him again if they catch him using this site.
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Well they do have the tools. My bud has tmobile and he attempted to create a xda username. Mid way thru the processor it blocked him saying "Tmobile Wireless Static IPs are not able to register with xda due to misuse". He was never an xda member to begin with. I lead him to root and roms but he had to use his wifi connection to register. Trust me. Xda does have the tools to block this stuff.
then why was i able to register on my phone without using wifi? you keep trying to argue this point. there are plenty of ways around being banned. this guy diabolic may not have been a genius, but i dont think he was an idiot. he is a developer, maybe not a good one, but im sure he knows something about computers. if he wants back on this site, i am sure he can find a way. you just keep acting like the mods are smart enough to catch him no matter what, and this site has the greatest security. ever heard of spoofing an ip address? several ways to do it and its not that hard. easier than spoofing a phone number. if you want to keep thinking this guy wont be able to come back no matter what, then keep thinking that. i choose to think realistically, so i know that if this guy wants to come back, he will find a way.
who cares if he comes back? its not going to be the end of the world.
thats my point exactly. this guy is acting like he is charles manson or something and everyone is on the lookout for him. smh.
He's back!
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You know what I'm going to admit that I'm 100% wrong for the things that I have done.
Ever since I have learned more I have gotten way more ahead and cocky with myself and other people and I changed after the ban I received.
- xtrem88 is right, prior to dec I turned rude.
- AndroidBotx is 100% wrong if you don't know the story please don't post I was not home and uploaded it from elsewhere but I finished the credits on the thread I have never ever kanged anything.
- AFAinHD I always give credit just forgot one time
I have something I have been working on since I was banned and will upload a preview, I'm sorry guys.
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You know what I'm going to admit that I'm 100% wrong for the things that I have done.
Ever since I have learned more I have gotten way more ahead and cocky with myself and other people and I changed after the ban I received.
- xtrem88 is right, prior to dec I turned rude.
- AndroidBotx is 100% wrong if you don't know the story please don't post I was not home and uploaded it from elsewhere but I finished the credits on the thread I have never ever kanged anything.
- AFAinHD I always give credit just forgot one time
I have something I have been working on since I was banned and will upload a preview, I'm sorry guys.
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How did you manage to get unbanned. That is pure bull **** on the mods part. Several great devs were banned for kanging work and here you are back. I am going to email the admin of xda. I do not know what is going on but someone somewhere screwed the pooch on letting you back. Absolutely speechless over the mods lack of ability to run this site.
It was a week ban for flaming, not for "kanging".
Email him he won't do anything..
I got banned for flaming a person because they flamed me and we both got banned.
If you look at all of my work it's never KANGED.
I always add my credits, the only thing that I was wrong for was not adding credit in one of my roms.
I even said sorry and your still acting like this, wow.
Ok, so this is my problem. Today when I came back from school (High School) I found out my infuse wasn't in the backpack slot it should be. I remember seeing it in my backpack at school in my locker, but then on the bus, I couldn't seem to find it.
I'm pretty sure rather one of the students busted into my locker using a key (teachers have keys that can open any locker) which they used to open my locker, or that the person with the locker next to me has found out me combination and has told it to a lot of students.
I am very concerned that they will screw with my phone, but I have an android pattern security on, so I doubt that.
What should I do? Should I call the school and tell them that I think someone stole my phone and give them a list of people who I think stole it? Or try to interogate them myself?
Please help! I love my infuse.
P.S. I've checked AT&T's website and I couldn't find the Infuse. So I'm thinking of ending my contract or terminating it so they can't text any of my contacts.
First tell your parents...and you can have ATT suspend your line...and they can kill that sim card...unless you have insurance...your at a loss....idk
But you can bring it to the school attention...
If you don't see your phone on you're acct when you log in...they prob took your Sim out...
I've already called the school but they didn't answer. I'm going to tell the dean of the school when I get to school tomorrow. I've already told my mom and she said to tell the school. I'm just trying to consider my options. If I can't find it or my friend has it and has reset everything, then I think my mom will be nice enough to get me a new phone.
Yeah...I wouldn't interrogate the people them selfs...if you don't know who did it for sure you could be questioning the wrong person...and if you do that then they probably won't like you...
Plus people may think you don't trust anyone...and if you do question the right person...what's gonna get him/her to admit it?
How ever I would defently inform the school...and give then a list of people you suspect...you should always let the authorities know (in this case the school) ...there are some crazy people out there...
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You could borrow someone else's phone and try dialing your number while you're in a group of fellow students. If you hear your ringtone, you know who has it.
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You could borrow someone else's phone and try dialing your number while you're in a group of fellow students. If you hear your ringtone, you know who has it.
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This will work as long as they haven't switched the sim card or turned it off which I'm sure they've done by now...
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Man. I feel real bad for you try going to Google play on PC and install lookout plan b to your phone.
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This will work as long as they haven't switched the sim card or turned it off which I'm sure they've done by now...
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Remember, these are high schoolers we're talking about.
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Thank you all! I've found the culprit (Long story prank) so the person who stole my phone's best friend spilled the beans. I have the text on my mom's go-phone (Very small and simple) and I will hopefully be getting the [email protected] suspended until school ends or at least get him grounded. Thank you for the options and I have suspended my AT&T account until further notice. I don't think that they can access my phone considering I have a pattern lock on it. Thank you for the support!
Your right, the 11th graders in my school aren't the smartest. But I'm Asian (Not to be stereotype or racist) and so are most of my friends and we know how to unlock phones without software (Hardware), pick- locks, and even create our own roms (I don't know how, but my friend ***** has created an HTC Vivid rom). I know they can't access anything for sure, considering I have the pattern lock (Like I've mentioned before). I hope it's still in 1 piece and still has that big ass crack right through the middle :/
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Your right, the 11th graders in my school aren't the smartest. But I'm Asian (Not to be stereotype or racist) and so are most of my friends and we know how to unlock phones without software (Hardware), pick- locks, and even create our own roms (I don't know how, but my friend ***** has created an HTC Vivid rom). I know they can't access anything for sure, considering I have the pattern lock (Like I've mentioned before). I hope it's still in 1 piece and still has that big ass crack right through the middle :/
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Remember, these are high schoolers we're talking about.
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Idk what highschoolers you grew up with...but im a highschooler growing up in the golden age of technology...most highschool kids know the basics about phones...power off=stealth, no sim=no longer connected to original account/service provider...doesn't take much thinking to figure that out...and highschool is full of thieves...what have they got to lose? There under age so they suffer no legal consequences...only school consequences...sure highschooler do a lot of dumb things...but they are no stranger when it comes to basic tech skills...
Sooooo...that's why I never leave my phone in my back pack...its always in my pocket or in my hand....
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There under age so they suffer no legal consequences...only school consequences...
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I live about 5 miles north of a Juvy Detention Center. Looks like a prison to me. Double fenced with razor wire. Filled with the "under aged".
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I live about 5 miles north of a Juvy Detention Center. Looks like a prison to me. Double fenced with razor wire. Filled with the "under aged".
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Lol...this will be my last reply on this subject as I don't wanna argue...but you won't end up in juvy for stealing a phone at school...unless you commit a serious crime like assault with a weapon or something along those lines, no matter what you do at school you will not end up in juvy...school takes responsibilities and deals with consequences...trust me I've seen tons of kids steal stuff and get caught...do they go to juvy no-if its a first time the just get suspended for a few days...second time expelled...authorities are never involved so they never go to juvy...
Now if they were to steal from somewhere that wasn't a school like a store or a random guy on the street then sure they have the chance of going to juvy...but if its done in school there's pretty much nothing to worry about as long as your not afraid of suspension...trust me on this...although I never did any of this I did used to hang around the wrong people who constantly stole stuff...so I've seen first hand what happens...and even when they steal from a store...they typically contact the school not the authorities...I actually know someone who stole an iPad right from the apple store...caught him on survelance and they just contacted the school not the authorities...so he got suspended for stealing a $600 product...
And then they go to court before getting sent to juvy...and most times they just get a big fine instead of going to juvy...
Even if they do go to juvy...they don't care as it doesn't stay on your record like jail does...once your a certain age (can't remember it...but I think it may be 20) all juvy records of you are no longer kept...
Most of the kids who steal actually kinda wanna get in trouble...they use it as rep, like they don't want to get caught but if they do then its just rep for them and their proud of it...
Anyways...like I said that would be my last reply...I don't wanna argue, and both our reply are not contributing to the ops problem that sounds like he has solved as he knows who has his phone...
Sooo...I hope everyone has a nice day
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Lol it sure did get off topic in here.
Every school is different. I went to a bad school at the time. Authorities were always involved. A serious example, my friend stole the substitute teacher's laptop. He got suspended. Brought to the station for some reason. Fined. And had a court date. Taught him a lesson.
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The Library of Congress has ruled that the DMCA jailbreak exemption it's granting for smartphones will not apply to tablets. They are also not granting a DMCA unlock exemption for phones purchased after January 2013. Carrier permission will be required to legally unlock those phones. The new DMCA exemption rulings go into effect on October 28 and will last three years.
Source: Library of Congress
Via: Timothy B. Lee (Ars Technica)
I find this incredibly arbitrary and nonsensical. Will this make it legal to root a Galaxy S phone but not a Galaxy Player, or to jailbreak an iPhone but not an iPod touch? What about phablets like the Galaxy Note, phones like the Asus Padfone which dock into a tablet shell, or tablets that can make standard voice calls (international 7" Galaxy tab)? When carriers implement voice over LTE, regular voice calls will be done over IP. What then will be the distinction between a phone and a tablet or media player with a VOIP app?
This is ridiculous.
Jailbreaking is different from rooting. I think we should be safe
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Relevant text from the ruling
37 CFR Part 201 said:
Wireless telephone handsets – software interoperability
Computer programs that enable wireless telephone handsets to
execute lawfully obtained software applications, where
circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of enabling
interoperability of such applications with computer programs
on the telephone handset.
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More info: pages 12-16 of source link
37 CFR Part 201 said:
Wireless telephone handsets – interoperability with alternative
networks
Computer programs, in the form of firmware or software, that
enable a wireless telephone handset originally acquired from
the operator of a wireless telecommunications network or
retailer no later than ninety days after the effective date of this
exemption to connect to a different wireless
telecommunications network, if the operator of the wireless
communications network to which the handset is locked has
failed to unlock it within a reasonable period of time following
a request by the owner of the wireless telephone handset, and
when circumvention is initiated by the owner, an individual
consumer, who is also the owner of the copy of the computer
program in such wireless telephone handset, solely in order to
connect to a different wireless telecommunications network,
and such access to the network is authorized by the operator of
the network.
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Jailbreaking is different from rooting. I think we should be safe
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The ruling does appear to apply to rooting as well as jailbreaking, judging by a response the EFF made during the comment period. http://www.copyright.gov/1201/2012/responses/eff_response_letter_regarding_exemption_5.pdf
As you can see in the above post, the actual text of the exemption doesn't use the term "jailbreak."
Jailbreaking and rooting is one and the same thing, however those guys do not know s**t about tech I guess.
Not allowing unlocking of phones is not cool, now companies can sue devs who create softwares to unlock cell phones, maybe even carriers pitch in and not allow you to run an unlocked tmo gs3 on at&t, this is BS, it's my device people, I can do what I want to ....
No need to worry.
We don't use ITunes.
They are their worse enemies.
How many people knew about mp3's until they went after Napster in a public way? The vast majority of Iphone users have no idea what Jailbreak means but they will soon:laugh:
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No need to worry.
We don't use ITunes.
They are their worse enemies.
How many people knew about mp3's until they went after Napster in a public way? The vast majority of Iphone users have no idea what Jailbreak means but they will soon:laugh:
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The ruling affects rooting on Android. It isn't iOS specific and has nothing to do with iTunes.
Does this mean that Android sites will have to stop posting articles on how to root tablets? Will discussions about rooting Android tablets become verboten on the forums soon?
First of all, I already had a thread about this.
Anyway, if there is a Mod reading this, will xda stop talking about rooting tablets soon?
Jailbreak does not equal root. We don't need to worry but if you own and iPad you're screwed
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First of all, I already had a thread about this.
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This thread was posted 17 hours and 48 minutes before yours.
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Jailbreak does not equal root. We don't need to worry but if you own and iPad you're screwed
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Did you read the actual text of the ruling that I quoted in my second post and think about carrier and manufacturer modifications that can lock an Android device down?
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This thread was posted 17 hours and 48 minutes before yours.
Did you read the actual text of the ruling that I quoted in my second post and think about carrier and manufacturer modifications that can lock an Android device down?
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Dude I don't care, jailbreaking and rooting are different things, so different in fact that if they say doing x to a product is illegal that the x does not also apply to the other form of hacking on the other OS
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What about circumventing locked bootloaders to load a custom ROM?
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What about circumventing locked bootloaders to load a custom ROM?
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OK, but remember when iPod touches were first coming out and people were jailbreaking them anyways? And everyone was just like "no ones gonna catch us."
Well same situation. Give the finger to the government and root and jailbreak anyways
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That's what most of us will do. Any Android device I get will be rooted.
Tappin' and talkin' with Tapatalk.
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OK, but remember when iPod touches were first coming out and people were jailbreaking them anyways? And everyone was just like "no ones gonna catch us."
Well same situation. Give the finger to the government and root and jailbreak anyways
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I doubt it will actually stop many people jailbreaking. A few devs might not be so forthright about what they have made etc, but I doubt too much will happen.
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I doubt it will actually stop many people jailbreaking. A few devs might not be so forthright about what they have made etc, but I doubt too much will happen.
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Maybe -
But what will happen to XDA? What about cellunlocker.net and services like that?
I gotta say, I'm worried.
From what I understand is just the carriers cring about people messing with radios and getting sim unlocks without them getting profit(unlock codes). So I guess rooting and costom Roma should be fine, but no s-off, radios.
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Jailbreaking is practically the same thing as rooting. Both involve granting r/w access to a partition that was not intended to be overwritten from factory.
I think it is time to for xda to go underground and start to not give crap about legality!
Good news for those exporting stock unlocked devices I suppose.
Since unlocking phones (for carrier use) becomes illegal starting tomorrow, we have made a petition to fight back.
Please sign!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7
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RBarnett09 said:
Since unlocking phones (for carrier use) becomes illegal starting tomorrow, we have made a petition to fight back.
Please sign!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7
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You can do nothing with a petition like this now, this is scheduled to be looked at every 3 years, in 3 years you will have a chance to be heard and get this changed, however, we are stuck with this for at least 3 years.
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You can do nothing with a petition like this now, this is scheduled to be looked at every 3 years, in 3 years you will have a chance to be heard and get this changed, however, we are stuck with this for at least 3 years.
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Indeed. I'm sure the White House is getting a nice chuckle from this petition.
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Here's the thing about what people may see as a pointless petition.
They are all pointless until created. No matter if this will make any difference or not.
Petitions aren't meant to go by guidelines or by what the current law or cycle of voting represents.
In fact, if we all just sat idly by while things happen around us and shrug our shoulders because well, that's what the law is and it doesn't come back up for discussion for 10 years, so let's just leave it as is, even though the majority of us are against it.
I guess my point is, no matter how small of a change or difference one person may think they will be or make, unless they start somewhere, they may as well roll over like everyone else.
Change starts with YOU!
(or you can accept things for the way they are dealt to you)
Santod is right. If enough people sign it will get attention and maybe it will be enough that it doesn't have to wait for three years before it is brought up again. If we keep allowing the cell companies to control how we use our property then eventually we won't have any control of it. This kind of crap needs to stop somewhere. This idea of not allowing us to decide if we want to stay with a specific carrier is bs. Would you like it if a bank said you had to remain in the same property, exactly the way it was originally purchased for the duration of the contract? Probably not.
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Nexus 4, 7, 10 ... ++ More Nexus is the way to go now. Besides, I font see the point in an ithing or win8.
A reason to get one now and get away from VZW, I say.
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Why is this crap being posted in forums for Verizon phones? It simply doesn't apply - VZW has never carrier locked their phones.
mike.s said:
Why is this crap being posted in forums for Verizon phones? It simply doesn't apply - VZW has never carrier locked their phones.
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Apparently you don't understand.
It will be illegal for us to unlock our phones to use them how we want to... HTC or not.
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This law affects all carriers. The only way around it is to get your carrier to unlock the phone for you or buy an unlocked phone from the start. They are only making it illegal to unlock your phone without their knowledge or permission.
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This law affects all carriers. The only way around it is to get your carrier to unlock the phone for you or buy an unlocked phone from the start. They are only making it illegal to unlock your phone without their knowledge or permission.
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This definitely won't stop most people.
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This definitely won't stop most people.
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A $500,000 fine and 5 years in prison sounds like a pretty good deterrent to keep most people from doing though. I think they are mostly targeting the businesses that are capitalizing on something that the carrier will do for people most of the time. I think part of the problem is that people get a phone on contract and since the phone is subsidized when they don't pay their bill the phone company eats the cost of the phone. If they are able to unlock the phone and use it somewhere else they basically get a free phone.
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Plus from what I heard on the radio if you own a phone already then you can unlock it and flash it to whatever carrier. Online petitions are a joke. As you can't prove the people existence because of of no signatures. I could type out ten thousand names names easily. You want change? You want action? Then call your congressmen or woman and voice your dislikes. Have your family,friends,coworkers, and so on to call. Tell them you are not happy and unless you see action you will vote for the other guy. Keep calling and if enough people calls something might be done.
Or you could go the easier route and just buy a google branded phone and not have to worry about the stupid law lol. It is funny people don't seem to care about stuff till its to late.
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disconnecktie said:
A $500,000 fine and 5 years in prison sounds like a pretty good deterrent to keep most people from doing though. I think they are mostly targeting the businesses that are capitalizing on something that the carrier will do for people most of the time. I think part of the problem is that people get a phone on contract and since the phone is subsidized when they don't pay their bill the phone company eats the cost of the phone. If they are able to unlock the phone and use it somewhere else they basically get a free phone.
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Holy....
I was unaware of that kind of punishment. That's insane.
How would someone get caught unlocking a phone though?
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I'm pretty sure that the esn will tell the new carrier where the phone came from. Plus you would have to know because unlocking it is probably different depending on which carrier you are coming from. There was a law passed recently that makes it illegal to take a phone with a bad esn and unlock it to use with a different carrier as well. The major carriers also have the ability to make a bad esn phone no good across most of the other carriers too.
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Milimbar said:
You can do nothing with a petition like this now, this is scheduled to be looked at every 3 years, in 3 years you will have a chance to be heard and get this changed, however, we are stuck with this for at least 3 years.
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tm24fan8 said:
Indeed. I'm sure the White House is getting a nice chuckle from this petition.
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Who's laughing now!!!??
As I said before, it all starts with us guys.... :good:
Official White House Response to Make Unlocking Cell Phones Legal.
(NOTE: This is in regards to carrier unlocking, not bootloader unlocking)
Source: LINK
It's Time to Legalize Cell Phone Unlocking
By R. David Edelman
Thank you for sharing your views on cell phone unlocking with us through your petition on our We the People platform.
Last week the White House brought together experts from across government who work on telecommunications, technology, and copyright policy, and we're pleased to offer our response.
The White House agrees with the 114,000+ of you who believe that consumers should be able to unlock their cell phones without risking criminal or other penalties.
In fact, we believe the same principle should also apply to tablets, which are increasingly similar to smart phones. And if you have paid for your mobile device, and aren't bound by a service agreement or other obligation, you should be able to use it on another network.
It's common sense, crucial for protecting consumer choice, and important for ensuring we continue to have the vibrant, competitive wireless market that delivers innovative products and solid service to meet consumers' needs.
This is particularly important for secondhand or other mobile devices that you might buy or receive as a gift, and want to activate on the wireless network that meets your needs -- even if it isn't the one on which the device was first activated.
All consumers deserve that flexibility.
The White House's position detailed in this response builds on some critical thinking done by the President's chief advisory Agency on these matters:
the Department of Commerce's National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA).
For more context and information on the technical aspects of the issue, you can review the NTIA's letter to the Library of Congress' Register of Copyrights (.pdf),
voicing strong support for maintaining the previous exception to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) for cell phone carrier unlocking.
Contrary to the NTIA's recommendation, the Librarian of Congress ruled that phones purchased after January of this year would no longer be exempted from the DMCA.
The law gives the Librarian the authority to establish or eliminate exceptions -- and we respect that process.
But it is also worth noting the statement the Library of Congress released today on the broader public policy concerns of the issue.
Clearly the White House and Library of Congress agree that the DMCA exception process is a rigid and imperfect fit for this telecommunications issue, and we want to ensure this particular challenge for mobile competition is solved.
So where do we go from here?
The Obama Administration would support a range of approaches to addressing this issue, including narrow legislative fixes in the telecommunications space that make it clear:
neither criminal law nor technological locks should prevent consumers from switching carriers when they are no longer bound by a service agreement or other obligation.
We also believe the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), with its responsibility for promoting mobile competition and innovation, has an important role to play here.
FCC Chairman Genachowski today voiced his concern about mobile phone unlocking (.pdf), and to complement his efforts, NTIA will be formally engaging with the FCC as it addresses this urgent issue.
Finally, we would encourage mobile providers to consider what steps they as businesses can take to ensure that their customers can fully reap the benefits and features they expect when purchasing their devices.
We look forward to continuing to work with Congress, the wireless and mobile phone industries, and most importantly you -- the everyday consumers who stand to benefit from this greater flexibility -- to ensure our laws keep pace with changing technology, protect the economic competitiveness that has led to such innovation in this space, and offer consumers the flexibility and freedoms they deserve.
R. David Edelman is Senior Advisor for Internet, Innovation, & Privacy
Tell us what you think about this response and We the People.
Alright fair enough, good job guys!
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Translation they agree but not really going to do much about it lol.
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santod040 said:
Who's laughing now!!!??
As I said before, it all starts with us guys.... :good:
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I signed it also, and just got my e-mail like 35min ago.
I don't know if it will change anything short term, but if nothing else.... at least next time it comes up for review it should turn out more favorably. Hopefully they will step in and push through some intermediate legislation before the next scheduled review though.
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I signed it also, and just got my e-mail like 35min ago.
I don't know if it will change anything short term, but if nothing else.... at least next time it comes up for review it should turn out more favorably. Hopefully they will step in and push through some intermediate legislation before the next scheduled review though.
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That would be nice, but would require Congress to stop bickering for more than a minute...
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I saw this and thought the same, what's this really going to accomplish? And then the posted article where it apparently did accomplish something. Seems like that's not always the case... But in general, I guess it's not a ton of effort to click in and sign an online petition, so if my one vote does almost-nothing-but-still-something, I guess the return on investment is slightly higher than what I get for typing a single forum post.
Although, if the law is meant to keep people from ditching their carrier and not paying their bill and having the phone "for free", there is the spot they're going to get on their credit when it goes to collections. Getting denied for credit or getting a worse rate for the next 7 years doesn't seem completely devoid of consequence.