what are the differences between the two and what are the disadvantages and advantages?
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moshe22 said:
what are the differences between the two and what are the disadvantages and advantages?
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i think you mean nvflash vs. rom manager?
moshe22 said:
what are the differences between the two and what are the disadvantages and advantages?
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With nvflash if your phone gets caught in a bootloop you will be able to boot into recovery and save it. If you just have clockwork intalled through RM your SOL.
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i think you mean nvflash vs. rom manager?
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Yeah I meant rom manager
Just edited title.
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what are the differences between the two and what are the disadvantages and advantages?
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NVFlash method truely replaces your old Recovery
Rom Manager method simply runs update.zip to simulate a custom recovery. The issue with the G2x is there is no true "stock recovery". Instead it simply reformats your phone. What this means, basically, is that the only way to get to this custom recovery is through the OS.
This doesn't mean that the Rom Manager method won't improve over time. I actually suspect it will. However, for now NVFlash is the only way to go.
MWBehr said:
NVFlash method truely replaces your old Recovery
Rom Manager method simply runs update.zip to simulate a custom recovery. The issue with the G2x is there is no true "stock recovery". Instead it simply reformats your phone. What this means, basically, is that the only way to get to this custom recovery is through the OS.
This doesn't mean that the Rom Manager method won't improve over time. I actually suspect it will. However, for now NVFlash is the only way to go.
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I actually got to what seemed like a stock recovery... it had blue font and said something like android recovery...
I got into it by deleting my rom manager cwm and then told it to boot into recovery
Not sure if it means anything tho... maybe it would make it easier to flash a custom recovery without nvflash?? don't think so tho.... I haven't use android since the mytouch 3g and we used to flash through fastboot right on the phone...looks like we can't do that anymore?
*** At least I think it was through fastboot ***
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I actually got to what seemed like a stock recovery... it had blue font and said something like android recovery...
I got into it by deleting my rom manager cwm and then told it to boot into recovery
Not sure if it means anything tho... maybe it would make it easier to flash a custom recovery without nvflash?? don't think so tho.... I haven't use android since the mytouch 3g and we used to flash through fastboot right on the phone...looks like we can't do that anymore?
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Sorry, didn't entirely mean to say that there is no stock recovery. It's just that there's no hardware way (that anyone knows of) to access it. Then, since you can't access the stock recovery through hardware, you can't access the custom recovery through hardware either....at least I wasn't able to. Now that I have NVFlash, I can't really test any further either
So how would you reboot into recovery after using the NVflash method?
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So how would you reboot into recovery after using the NVflash method?
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nvflashing clockword mod remaps vol. down and power to cwm recovery
This is my first Android phone and while I am familiar with CWR thru my rooted Nook Color, this is the first I have heard of NVFlash Recovery. Is there a tutorial or (noob) guide?
Thanks in advance.
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nvflashing clockword mod remaps vol. down and power to cwm recovery
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That same function gets you in to the factory recovery as well, when not rooted, its the first thing I tried when I got my G2x.. holding power and vol. down until the LG screen pops up then the little android with the box comes up.. from there i believe i either pushed vol. up or down.. I'm betting it was down.. and you get in to factory recovery. The only thing is when I exited the factory recovery, the phone did a factory reset on reboot.
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Hey guys..
I just today rooted my lovely Nexus S, 9023 or what its called (non branded or nothing)
But i cant load recovery.. went fine when i rooted it, but now that i want to load an custom rom it fails.. i followed this guide to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883032
Anyone have some ideas??
I just get a android logo and triangle + ! in it.. as error.. (
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n0ta
Just tested with ROM Mananger, it can backup just fine.. as soon i choose a ROM to install it loads recovery and fails, just like when you do it manually.
n0ta said:
Just tested with ROM Mananger, it can backup just fine.. as soon i choose a ROM to install it loads recovery and fails, just like when you do it manually.
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Sounds like stock recovery installed itself. If you are rooted remove/rename /etc/install-recovery.sh then reflash cwm manually or through rom manager.
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I have had this happen on my NS4G. I know they are a little different, but it seems like you are having the same thing happen that I did and to solve it, I open Windows command prompt(or terminal depending on you OS) and fastboot flash recovery (insert recovery.img name here) and reflashed the recovery partition with clockwork. Very easy fix. Just make sure you boot straight into recovery after flashing and flash the Rom you want to flash before booting back into stock(also make a nandroid before that). After that you shouldn't have any more problems unless you unroot. There must be a small glitch somewhere when flashing the clockwork doesn't fully erase stock recovery partition.
krohnjw said:
Sounds like stock recovery installed itself. If you are rooted remove/rename /etc/install-recovery.sh then reflash cwm manually or through rom manager.
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Works now thanks all to both of you.
n0ta said:
Works now thanks all to both of you.
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Pretty common lately...Android for Nexus S recovers its recovery if it is changes...
"You dawg, we heard you like recovering your recoveries, so we made recovery recover in recovery." and all that...
bender_123 said:
Pretty common lately...Android for Nexus S recovers its recovery if it is changes...
"You dawg, we heard you like recovering your recoveries, so we made recovery recover in recovery." and all that...
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The Nexus one did the same thing. Most OTAs verify / replace this file. It's easy enough to deal with if you're unlocked and rooted.
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This is about the third or fourth time this question has come up over the past week...
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This is about the third or fourth time this question has come up over the past week...
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I assure you it won't be the last.
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I can't really find the answer I'm looking for by searching...I've tried...I just rooted my xoom once I have clockwork on it can I boot into recover by using vol + power method or do I need to use a adb to flash roms and kernels? I'm so use to my evo
Sorry if its been answered clearly already...flame away if it makes you feel better ;-)
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I can't really find the answer I'm looking for by searching...I've tried...I just rooted my xoom once I have clockwork on it can I boot into recover by using vol + power method or do I need to use a adb to flash roms and kernels? I'm so use to my evo
Sorry if its been answered clearly already...flame away if it makes you feel better ;-)
Thanks guys.
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You can manually boot into recovery using the button combo. I do it all the time. The only time I've used adb on my xoom was when I rooted 3.1
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you can also get Quick Boot (free in market) and reboot directly to recovery from within android. most roms and kernels have instructions for installation that include clockworkmod. some also have instruction for adb. but for the most part clockworkmod is where you will be flashing from now that your rooted.
Awesome! Thanks a bunch guys
Also I'm assuming that quick boot will boot you into clockwork recovery, correct? Or do you not even need clockwork and can boot into the xooms stock recovery and wipe and flash from there?
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Awesome! Thanks a bunch guys
Also I'm assuming that quick boot will boot you into clockwork recovery, correct? Or do you not even need clockwork and can boot into the xooms stock recovery and wipe and flash from there?
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Yes it will. Quickboot is awesome.
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Yes it will. Quickboot is awesome.
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Use CW Recovery for flashing but stick with version 3.2.0.0...don't "upgrade" to 4.0.0.x, which doesn't recognize your external sdcard. Quick boot has several options, including recovery, which takes you right to android recovery where you will access CW Recovery.
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Use CW Recovery for flashing but stick with version 3.2.0.0...don't "upgrade" to 4.0.0.x, which doesn't recognize your external sdcard. Quick boot has several options, including recovery, which takes you right to android recovery where you will access CW Recovery.
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I already flashed the one from ROM manager which is 4.0.0.x....I bookmarked the 3.2.0.0 thread last night...I'll dl it and give it a spin thanks!
Ok just got this phone and have decided to go with Phoenix Blood rom, but how do i start? I have to be on froyo to root? Im coming from samsung epic on sprint that i flashed so im not completely retarded. Thanks for any help
Use superoneclick to root on froyo.
If your on 2.3.3 gb there's a flashable. Zip in development section to root.
Also you will want to use tgagunnmans nvflash method to install clockworkmod recovery in dev section.
Phoenix blood is a great choice btw, enjoy!
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You're still on Froyo? To my understanding it's a good idea to flash the OTA GB first so that you'll get the up to date baseband. Once that's done just go ahead and flash PB.
no im on gb jsut thought i had to go back to froyo to root, so i just flash clockwork mod then pb and thats it?
reeshmd23 said:
no im on gb jsut thought i had to go back to froyo to root, so i just flash clockwork mod then pb and thats it?
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Yes, but make sure you're using NVFlash to get CWM. Don't use Rom Manager.
Easiest way is using the tool unlockroot. It supports gb on the G2X. Or you can use nvflash, whichever you prefer.
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Easiest way is using the tool unlockroot. It supports gb on the G2X. Or you can use nvflash, whichever you prefer.
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If he wants to change Roms he will still need Nvflash regardless how he gets it rooted.
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If he wants to change Roms he will still need Nvflash regardless how he gets it rooted.
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Agree. Nvflash=bullet proof.
what is nvflash?
reeshmd23 said:
what is nvflash?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
From that thread:
Flashing the custom recovery using NvFlash is the only way to ensure that in the case your phone will not boot up, you will be able to get into recovery to fix the issue / flash a ROM / restore from nandroid backup. That is what this app will do for you.
If you flashed the ClockworkMod recovery from ROM Manager it does not flash the recovery to your phone, it fake flashed it. The only way you can gain access to ClockworkMod recovery is through ROM Manager at that point. Using this method is the only way to flash recovery so it is persistent and accessible booting to recovery.
If you have already flashed through ROM Manager you can still proceed with this method. Flash Away!
(You can use both ROM Manager CWM and have the nvflashed version working together. You just access either or one at a time, having the nvflashed one means you can boot to CWM. Welcome to Tegra2)
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Follow the link. This is a must for tegra 2 based phones. It is always better to be safe than sorry and it also allows you to do a ton of other things, such as making backups and flashing roms. Let us know if you need help. The phone is pretty much unbrickable after you do this. It gives you the ability to recover from any major mistake.
Its in the dev thread, it low level flashes clockworkmod recovery to our phones internal memory partition. You need to install apx drivers first in order for the g2x to be nvflashed.
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thanks for the help guys got it all set up
Just to add in, nvflash allows u to boot into cwm recovery whenever u want and u don't need to be next to a computer. I think that is how it worked for Samsung phones and Odin, where u needed a computer, but haven't used a Samsung phone so I could be wrong. Remember always make a back up of everything and play around with the different roms, not every rom works for everyone
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Actually Odin is just like nvflash. It is used to put cwm on you phone and to put the stock recovery back on.
Once you have cwm you can flash what ever rom or kernel without the need for root. Just back up your stock unrooted stock rom before flashing anything else.
If you do that you will have your own stock backup with no need of finding it in the forums if you need to go back to stock.
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For some reason the volume up button doesn't work, is this software caused or hardware caused? I just bought this tablet today. It's already rooted but I can't get clockworkmod to work.
But basically what should I do?
thanks.
It doesn't work just within CWM recovery or it doesn't work period?
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It doesn't work just within CWM recovery or it doesn't work period?
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Doesn't work in general.
Not knowing if it was working before you rooted ect
it's hard to say if it's hardware or software.
I would revert back to stock and see what it does if not just return it for a new one.
baseballfanz said:
Not knowing if it was working before you rooted ect
it's hard to say if it's hardware or software.
I would revert back to stock and see what it does if not just return it for a new one.
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I'm a noob when it comes to android, but in the recovery screen where it says wipe data and android, when I select something with the volume up should it immediatley go to it? Cause it's not doing anything and going to cold boot, so I think it might not be working...just my luck.
Do you have CWM recovery or you at the screen where it ask to cold boot or delete data?
How did you install CWM recovery?
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Do you have CWM recovery or you at the screen where it ask to cold boot or delete data?
How did you install CWM recovery?
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I don't even remember the first attempt, but the second time I tried using some one click apk thing I installed on the device.
Just did a system restore and now unrooting it, going to do another system restore after that and if it doesn't work I'm just going to return it..
OK I got a new G2X after the charger port in my old one from T-mobile. I root it with superclick one then download clockwork from the marketplace. I try to boot into recovery and then the phone hangs. When he does not hang it says install of update fails and wont let me flash my rom. Did clock work change or am I doing doing something wrong?
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OK I got a new G2X after the charger port in my old one from T-mobile. I root it with superclick one then download clockwork from the marketplace. I try to boot into recovery and then the phone hangs. When he does not hang it says install of update fails and wont let me flash my rom. Did clock work change or am I doing doing something wrong?
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That one from the market is a no go for this phone. That recovery (I assume via ROM Manager) simply not gonna stick.
Go to this thread and flash the recovery using Nvflash:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
This question should go to the G2X Q&A section, though.
Good luck!
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That one from the market is a no go for this phone. That recovery (I assume via ROM Manager) simply not gonna stick.
Go to this thread and flash the recovery using Nvflash:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
This question should go to the G2X Q&A section, though.
Good luck!
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Thanks alot
Aren't both Clockworkmod and ROM Manager abandonware?
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Aren't both Clockworkmod and ROM Manager abandonware?
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Abandonware??? What gives you that idea??
In the play store ROM Manager was updated the 16th of this month, and if CWM was also abandonware then no newer devices would have been getting CWM on it.
Is that a legit question or are you trolling? I find it hard to believe someone would be calling it that.
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OK I got a new G2X after the charger port in my old one from T-mobile. I root it with superclick one then download clockwork from the marketplace. I try to boot into recovery and then the phone hangs. When he does not hang it says install of update fails and wont let me flash my rom. Did clock work change or am I doing doing something wrong?
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First, the best way to get CMW of any version is by using the NV Flash ( Search that up ). Then you can boot into recovery by pushing the power button (the one on top), and the volume down button ( Its on the right side). It should boot into recovery perfectly after you do this. Tell us if it works!
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First, the best way to get CMW of any version is by using the NV Flash ( Search that up ). Then you can boot into recovery by pushing the power button (the one on top), and the volume down button ( Its on the right side). It should boot into recovery perfectly after you do this. Tell us if it works!
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Agree, Best way to flash recovery is Thru NV flash. Its a little complicated but ones you get the hang of it, its easy than you though
ROM manger can flash recovery but not always does a full flash, so best way is NVflash.
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Agree, Best way to flash recovery is Thru NV flash. Its a little complicated but ones you get the hang of it, its easy than you though
ROM manger can flash recovery but not always does a full flash, so best way is NVflash.
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ROM manager CAN'T flash recovery. ONLY use nvflash.