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[Q] Captivate or EVO?

So I went and played around just for a few min with the captivate, and i was blown away by that screen.. but didnt care much for the app drawer and a few other samsung tweeks.. but it seems most can now be eliminated by CM6 so the question for all of you.. pros and cons of the captivate vs the evo?

micro2112 said:
So I went and played around just for a few min with the captivate, and i was blown away by that screen.. but didnt care much for the app drawer and a few other samsung tweeks.. but it seems most can now be eliminated by CM6 so the question for all of you.. pros and cons of the captivate vs the evo?
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Biggest Pro to the captivate is no 4 G up charge also No HTC Sense.

Captivate. My cousin who has the EVO is jealous, especially of the AMOLED screen.

I faced the same decision. I code the captivate. I thought the evo was very un-smooth. Everything seemed jerky. I've read numerous reviews saying the battery will die in less than a day, even if you never turn the screen on. I thought the screen looked very dull, even by lcd standards. I don't know if htc sorted it out yet, but the screen was separating from the body of the phone for just about everyone. If you play games that require quick dragging, the phone has enough touch lag to be very irritating. The phone has dust-under-the screen issues and it's not even from the corner that separates from the body.
The captivate has problems too, but as long as the gps is fixed, I'll be happy with my decision.

micro2112 said:
So I went and played around just for a few min with the captivate, and i was blown away by that screen.. but didnt care much for the app drawer and a few other samsung tweeks.. but it seems most can now be eliminated by CM6 so the question for all of you.. pros and cons of the captivate vs the evo?
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Hmmmm on the Captivate forum, you think anyone will recommend the Evo?
Also there is no CM6 for the Captivate right now - someone is working on a Vanilla port, but it is not finished.
Then there is the issue of network coverage - Sprint vs. AT&T and just try taking your Evo outside North America - it won't make phone calls.
HTC doesn't have a great track record for rock solid hardware either.

I wonder if the Galaxy S phones wouldve been more popular (and better for the android brand) if Sammy hadnt actually bothered with touch wiz?
Hmmm...point to ponder

alphadog00 said:
Hmmmm on the Captivate forum, you think anyone will recommend the Evo?
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I figured in this forum there might be some ppl who switched and they could tell me why.
I think im going to go buy the captivate today.. i just wish the usb port were on the bottom so it could have a normal dock...

EVO with everything turned off: 4G, GPS, WiFi, email and other automatic updates,etc. I still got maybe 9 hours before having to recharge. When you work a 12 hour shift as ER Nurse one doesn't have opportunity to be without their drug and medical reference source while it's recharging. I don't sit down much!
Have owned a new HTC WinMo device each of the last five years, but despite quality issues they were the only real game in town. Now they aren't, and like Steve Jobs they better wake their arrogant arses up!
EVO has too many issues: screen delaminates(fixed), LED light bleeding everywhere, bright/hot spots, power buttons commonly crack as well as the protruding camera lens cracks since it takes impacts everytime one places it down on flat surface, etc. and depending on who you speak to at Sprint most consider these abuses and won't warranty them.
I don't want to jinx it, but my 3 week old Captivate's battery life kicks a** and can go 36 hours before absolutely having to recharge, plus main reason why I haven't taken final step to try JH3.
I plug it in everynight though, but aside from the hopefully repairable GPS issue it's awesome.
Updated EVO to Froyo 2.2 and noticed improvements immediately soo I can't wait. I'll miss animated Sense widget cause app version just isn't same though.

ozy944 said:
I wonder if the Galaxy S phones wouldve been more popular (and better for the android brand) if Sammy hadnt actually bothered with touch wiz?
Hmmm...point to ponder
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I like everything about touch wiz that can't be replaced by launcher pro. I like all the small stuff peppered throughout the os.

touch wiz flat out sucks.........i don't know what gave samsung the idea that it was good.
At least for HTC Sense, it's pretty, good looking, and includes things like the weather clock widget plus full weather animations that stock doesn't have, plus the Sense keyboard is good from what i've heard.
I would take Sense over touch wiz.........but yea anyways, vanilla is still better than any.
As for Cyanogenmod.....it's coming. They said there will be CM on the Galaxy S phone, you can go check out who was put on that job.
Edit: i forgot to answer the thread.........i would get the Captivate. Superior performance, better screen, slim, but less screen real estate. 4 inches IMO is just about the sweetspot for a phone. Hummingbird and PowerVR SGX540 are beast though, they will last you until your upgrade if not longer, Captivate has the best GPU in a mobile phone right now and no other phone has it yet. OMAP doesn't plan on putting it in their phones until their multi-core cpu's come out which is like the end of 2011 from what i've heard.
Go for the Captivate....snapdragon is also slow in 3D apps which means the Evo will be

I actually like the Touchwiz features - the slide to call on the contacts screen, the app drawer, widgets....
The top USB port is so your phone can lay sideways and dock - it slides into a samsung dock with plug on the side.
Some of the down sides are Samsungs email and calendar apps - but this is not really touchwiz fault - but samsung app fault. The lag issues are also not touchwiz, but Samsungs other decisions.
But you are correct in the notion that all can be fixed by a 3rd party or vanilla rom.

If you have that option, why not wait for the Epic?
4G, front facing camera, flash, slide out keyboard, SuperAMOLED screen. I wish I had Sprint. I am very happy with my Captivate though, overall.
Definitely the Galaxy S over the EVO. The EVO screen looks incredibly washed out to me now.
Plus if you're into customizing your phone at all the HTC Sense crap is very unfriendly.

EVO to Captivate
micro2112 said:
I figured in this forum there might be some ppl who switched and they could tell me why.
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I did. Had the EVO for a month, and returned it. Primary issues
- horrible battery life, even with 4g, wifi etc turned off when not used. Couldn't get past 5PM.
- 4G connectivity is spotty at best. Doesn't work while indoors. Plus, when you have 1 bar of 4G, the phone tries to get the data thru 4G waits for a min or two, before giving up and reconnecting to 3G. All this time, I was waiting for an app to get data.
- Build quality - Light leakage at the bottom of the screen, battery door doesn't line up with the rest of the body, recessed ear piece would collect dust and so on. Expected more from a seasoned player like htc.
I didn't really mind the $10 fee for 4G, because overall Sprint's plan is cheaper than VZ's or ATT's anyway. But, the phone isn't good enough. Of course, people in EVO forums wouldn't agree

They are both great phones. Galaxy is a more powerful phone, so I think it will stay relevant longer. I have a friend with droid x and a acquaintance with evo and both screens just don't compare. Especially the droid, its just, really washed out. I am really happy with the phone, and touchwiz, but this is my first android phone. But I think samsung did an excellent job adding contrast throughout the interface to take advantage of the amoled screen. Like messaging for example. I have excellent battery life and no lag complaints, so I've never bothered with lag fix (and as an adderall fueled college student I think any lag would annoy the hell out of me)
Gps very broken though
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I have a evo and captivate. I have had a really hard time deciding what to keep. If you are a gamer I would say captivate but if gaming on your phone is not a big deal to you then I would go with the evo. They perform pretty close in all aspects but gaming is 2x to 3x better on the captivate. The captivate screen has better colors but has blue tint in whites. You cant tell unless you compare to evo side by side on Google's home page. The Sense vs touchwiz is personal preference. I like touchwiz app menu better then my evo's but sense has better UI and widgets.
Some videos I made evo vs captiavte with and without lag fix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKsAUR61ByM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji49qFNxC4c

If you turn auto sync off and gps off when your not using it, with moderate web use and a god bit of texting I got two days before battery went to red. Very happy.
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took the plunge. came home with the captivate today.. THANKS everybody for your opinions and info.. this screen is super sexy

micro2112 said:
took the plunge. came home with the captivate today.. THANKS everybody for your opinions and info.. this screen is super sexy
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Ha ha told my wife the same thing, never said an electronic device was sexy before I got this thing. You'll be happy.
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From Nexus S to G2X my impression

Though initially I wasn't going to, I decided to give the G2X a shot. The following is my real world experience with the G2X as compared to the Nexus S.
-One of the first things I noticed with the G2X is that it feels a lot more solid than the Nexus S. It simply feels like a better quality product.
-Screen: The Nexus S has deeper blacks than the G2X, however the G2X has richer more natural colors and the screen is much brighter and is more visible in sunlight than the Nexus S. Overall, I prefer the G2X's display over that of the NS.
-Horsepower: Obviously the G2X has more horsepower than the NS so I won't go too in depth on this one. Yes the NS is snappy (mine was running CM7 with netarchy kernel and it flied) but the G2X still felt faster and more responsive overall.
Battery: In my opinion the Nexus S has THE BEST battery life of any smartphone I've ever owned (and I've owned quite a few of the higher end phones). The battery life on the G2X is not bad as I can get through a day on a charge with moderate use. However, with the NS I could EASILY get through a day on a charge with HEAVY use and still have battery life remaining.
Data Speeds: I am in Atlanta and the 4g speeds that I've been experiencing here have been in the 5-10meg range, but mostly around 5-7megs. As for web browsing on the phone, the speed difference from the Nexus S isn't very noticeable. However where the speed difference does show is when streaming video or video chatting when not connected to wifi.
Speakers: I love that the speakers on the G2X are on the bottom of the phone. This means that my phone can be sitting on a soft surface (like a bed) and I can still hear it ring, whereas with my NS when the phone rang and it was face up, it muffled the speaker badly. The speaker volume of the G2X is fantastic, the richness of the sound however is not. The speakers on the G2X are much louder than that of the Nexus S, but the richness and depth of the sound on the NS is better. I wish they could have gotten the sound quality as good as on the Nexus S but still have the volume.
Camera: The camera quality on the G2X is definitely superior to that of the NS, ESPECIALLY the video camera. I compared a video shot with my NS and one shot with my G2x (1080p) and there is no comparison. The G2X wins hands down. Still photos come out clearer and richer on the G2X also.
Misc Features: NS has NFC (which of course is almost useless at this point in time). The NS has hdmi-mirroring (which can come in handy every now and then) and MICRO SD SLOT (the NS was the first smartphone I owned that didn't have an sd card slot..which was quite an adjustment).
Overall: I like the G2X better than the NS, although there are things I do miss about the NS (better battery life and richer sound quality). Overall, the pros far outweigh the cons and thus I am very comfortable with having sold my NS and having replaced it with the g2x. Hopefully this post will help someone who may be on the fence about making the leap.

My main gripe with phone is screen I prefer amoled
I'm all set with constant backlight not to mention the gx2 screen has major backlight bleeding
Ips is one of the flagship panels for computer LCD monitor but IMO still don't compare to OLED
3 Most popular topics over in that forum is
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I'm waiting for galaxy s 2
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Having used both phones side by side and compared the same images right next to each other I have to say that I disagree with you. The only thing that seems to look better on the NS' screen is the blacks. The colors are richer and have a more natural look on the G2X. On top of that the G2X screen is more visible in sunlight than the NS.

My friend has a gx2 actually it's his 5th one with backlight issues. He is sending to LG for repair pretty sad but that seems to be the only way to resolve
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I really think the whole "backlight issue" is overblown by a bunch of nitpicky people. Every time a phone comes out, no matter what phone it is, there is always some "issue" that people seem to harp on. I don't have any issues with my backlight at all. As for your friend, perhaps he doesn't realize this but, the backlight will "bleed" with lcd. Look at a solid black screen on an lcd television and you'll see an example of this. If this isn't something he is comfortable with, then he probably shouldn't buy any phones with an lcd screen. I for one don't see this as an issue at all, due to the fact that you really have to go out of your way to notice it. In the meantime I prefer to have the richer and more natural colors.

If you're compairing colors off 2.3.3 kernels without voodoo color. Then yea g2x looks better because Google messed with color profile and looks absolute garbage colors are dull
But in real world u can't compair ips doesn't have an unlimited constrast ratio and true blacks like oled and its a fact the higher the constrast the more vibrant colors are.
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I am not comparing lcd and oled. I am comparing the Nexus S and the G2X. LCD vs Oled is a different conversation. This post is simply about how the phones compare to each other in my real world use of them.

lol i said my main gripe is the screen. and you replied bak so that's what our convo is about.
And i know its common in pretty much any LCD for backlight bleed but not to the point is interferes with IQ its especially noticeable in the two top corners and you can see it threw the notification bar...granted not all are like that but allot are including my friends 5 he went threw
now with that said i never said te phone was bad becasue its not and i agree it out performs the NS i just cant stand the screen and sorry but you look at the function 99 percent of the time you use the phone.
If you like it than that's cool you have every right to its great phone

The g2x having only 512mb ram was never an upgrade option for me. Besides I hate how much space was wasted on capacative buttons and will wait for the next nexus device
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My friend just picked one up yesterday. The backlight bleeding from the top 2 corners was absolutely terrible. I was very surprised.

I love my g2x....
Backlight bleeding is blown way out of proportion...

i guess the backlight issue is such a big deal when your playing with your phone in the dark amongst other things! .... this phone rocks stop the *****in!

I really love my G2x too, even the name is awesome!
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I love it like my g1. I like the tegra2, vailla android. Really just love it.
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i went from a g2>nexus s>mytouch4g>g2x and i still like the build quality of the mytouch 4g but it looked more like a kiddy phone. i have cases galore and accessories for my g2x so i think ima have it for a little while than i intended. i moving more away from the sensation but a little towards it because I LOVE HTC

goldeman said:
i guess the backlight issue is such a big deal when your playing with your phone in the dark amongst other things! .... this phone rocks stop the *****in!
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You don't see it as soon as you boot your phone on the top corners? I noticed it in the tmobile store with florescent lighting immediately.
Look at this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042703
It's a shame b/c it washes out colors and really detracts from an otherwise excellent phone.

mprziv said:
You don't see it as soon as you boot your phone on the top corners? I noticed it in the tmobile store with florescent lighting immediately.
Look at this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042703
It's a shame b/c it washes out colors and really detracts from an otherwise excellent phone.
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That still wouldn't bug me too bad, as long I'm not watching aall black show I could care less if on bootup I see it, or start of the video player.... The second the ***** shows picture it goes away..

Hexmaster93 said:
The g2x having only 512mb ram was never an upgrade option for me. Besides I hate how much space was wasted on capacative buttons and will wait for the next nexus device
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obviously you never handled a g2x cuz once you touch one and handle it for a while.you will never talk about the two issues you brought up.trust me, go and play with a g2x for 10 mins. You will be hooked.
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Just checked out the infuse at at&t.

Was out today and thought I'd stop by and check out the infuse...
I spent about 5 minutes goin over it...
The screen looks awesome....
Touchwiz looks cheap...
GPS could not lock on my location..but the Atrix and the Inspire on display had no trouble at all..
I may be a little jealous if the display and battery size of the infuse...otherwise I'm stickin with the inspire...
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good there really isn't a plus from other galaxy s phones. Sure there's a better camera, bigger screen, ffc, and a better screen but what's hardware without software?
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I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.

I feel just like that whenever I look at my wife’s Galaxy Captivate’s bright screen, until I try to navigate that damn Touchwiz. Grass will always be greener on the other side when it comes to technical toys. But with all the things I can do with my Inspire 4G, I can do without the faster CPU, front facing camera, and the extra .2 inches of high def screen until next Inspire (something comparable to) comes out.

newter55 said:
I messed with one for five minutes as well. Salesman was really hyping it up how it was the best phone on at&t right now. I agree the screen is nice but I still prefer the inspire.
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if we sell enough of them, samsung gives us goodies, we win points that we can redeem for electronics and such...
so you're damn right its the best phone we have at AT&T right now..
(i still use my inspire and i think its way better than both infuse and atrix, much more solid built etc)
but yea.. when the next phone comes out that gives us salesmen something good in return, guess what.. it's gonna be the best phone you can buy for your money!! i guarantee it!! *wink*

The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
We'll be hearing about any defects or problems within a week if there are any.

I played with one too. Reminded me of my captivate just bigger. kinda cool, but eh. I still prefer my Inspire!

secretasianman said:
The Infuse looks very interesting to me.
I checked out a non-working demo unit at Costco and it's about the same size as the Inspire and the screen was noticeably bigger. Bravo Samsung for coming out with a 4.5" screen phone and using as much real estate on the front of the phone as possible.
The GPS lock problem... hmmm... gee Samsung... haven't you learned?
As far as the UI: Come on... most of us hate TouchWiz. That's a given. Just replace it with LauncherPro or ADWLauncher. I bet half of the Inspire users here don't use Sense (though I do and actually like Sense).
Would I trade in my Inspire for the Infuse (I bought from Costco): No. I'm still pissed off at Samsung over the Captivate GPS issues... but if the Infuse turns out to have 100% working hardware and features as advertised it'd be a step in the right direction winning me back. I would recommend it to non-phone obsessed friends who don't care about quick OS updates.
We'll be hearing about any defects or problems within a week if there are any.
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I love sense, and when I had my captivated, everything about it was HTC. notification bar, battery meter, signal meter, app icons, etc. I wasn't phone obsessed as far as updates until I got into Android. So that may change for them.
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Samsung's hardware is tempting, but I'll never forget the garbage I (we) went through with the Captivate. Dying earpiece and external speakers (both happened to me on different handsets), sleep death, no GPS, the OTA update that bricked stock phones...all of this and more, and the phone hasn't even been out for a year.
Not only that, but Samsung insulted us by releasing a GPS "fix" app in the market that "restored the GPS to factory settings"...you know, the ones that didn't work in the first place?
I'm not a fanboy and won't spend my money buying products from a company that is all to happy to ass-rape me for giving them business. Apple has the luxury for rabid fanboyism, so no matter what they do, people will still buy their products. Samsung doesn't have that, they just think they do for some reason.

The good side of the Infuse is his unlocked bootloader.
My wife has a Inspire and I have a captivate, I have to say the captivate is really easier to unlock. But I agree with most of you about the captivate, a stock captivate is really not perfect, but I'm running my cappy with Contiuuum 5.4.1 (Android 2.3.3) and I can say bye bye to all the problems, my gps is a dream and my battery time is amazing.

I have a SE Xperia X10 and I'm in the market for a new phone, so I went to my local AT&T store for the Sunday release of the Infuse. I played with it, and with the Inspire, for about an hour.
I came away from the experience thinking my next phone will be an HTC...now if I can only hold out for the upcoming "Holiday." hee hee. Here's why-
1. I have owned Samsungs before, including a brief stint with the Captivate, and I'm unimpressed with the company as far as updates and support.
2. The HTC aluminum unibody case just says "build quality" to me. The infuse felt just like the Captivate in the hand - like flimsy, cheap plastic that should not be used for high-end phones. I know some people want light weight, but come on - few extra grams won't kill ya and it just might save your phone if you're a little rough with it.
3. The Infuse's screen was way too color over-saturated for me. It's bright and clear, but looks surreal to me. I would tire of that in hurry.
4. I could detect no speed or smoothness advantage for the Infuse. Heck, I could load up a custom rom on the Inspire, overclock it conservatively and just beat the snot out of the Infuse... which leads me to....
5. There seems to be a whole lot more developer time and interest in the HTC devices, which means loads more fun for me.

I have both phones with me right now and here are my quick observations between the two phones (Inspire running current version of LeeDroid 2.3.3):
Web browsing: Inspire – Seems to load pages faster and better scrolling.
Camera: Infuse – For some reason the pictures from my Inspire produce a redish look and are too soft, almost out of focus.
Build quality: Inspire – HTC = solid. I don’t notice much difference when carrying them in my pocket as the Infuse is lighter.
Screen: Infuse - However the Inspire is not bad. I could live with both. After looking at the Infuse I do notice a little bit of softness to the Inspire’s text.
Call quality/Handset speaker: Infuse – I have always had an issue with the call quality of HTC devices for my taste. I have to say that the Infuse has one of the best sounding speakers. I would rate it on par with the iPhone 4 or better.
GPS: Infuse – I get a lock in about 10 seconds. Inspire takes about 1 minute with current ROM/Radio.
Battery life: Infuse – But not by much (10 to 15% better).
Speedtests: Infuse – Speed tests seam consistently higher using Speedtest.net (between 4-5 download and 1.5-2 upload).
Battery charging: Inspire – for some reason the Infuse (and most Samsung phones) take forever to fully charge.
Reception: Still need a few more days with the phone but did have an issue with it the very first call. Called AT&T to make a change to my account and dropped the call five times. The lady at AT&T apologized and said that her land line has been dropping a lot of calls lately (WTF?!?!). I should have a conclusion within the next few days.
I’m not going to get into Touchwiz vs. Sense as there are several write-ups on this but based upon the above, I’m leaning towards the Infuse. Call quality is fantastic on my side as well as the other side. I travel a lot so being in airports and cars this is very important for me. The other item is camera quality. Images may be a little oversaturated by they look sharp and I’m no longer to grabbing my wife’s iPhone 4 to take pictures or videos.
Hope this helps anyone looking at both of these devices and let me know if you have any questions.

I may have to reconsider. I spent another day playing with the phones at the ATT shop. I loaded up speedtest on the Inspire, Attrix and Infuse and ran it on each phone about five times. The Infuse consistently beat the others on download and upload. It was close with the Attrix, but the Inspire got its clock cleaned every time.
The screen on the Infuse started to grow on me when I got out of the start screen and its surreal, over the top background and icon colors. When you look at web pages, movies and snapped pictures, it looks amazingly good. The blacks are so very black, even way off axis.
I also played around with the cameras and I have to say that the Infuse is outstanding. Very fast focus and snap and consistently better looking shots...well, could have been the better screen making them appear to be better.
With all the apps coming out now that utilize video chat with the front camera, I don't know if I could go another year or so without one and of course the Infuse has a nice one.
The only down side I had with the Infuse was the build quality. Now that I think about it, it was really the "feel" and the super light weight. Then it dawned on me...duh!...I'm going to put a case on it, so that can be easily corrected.
So now the only thing that I have left to quibble about is the lack of notification lights on the Infuse.....and yet, something tells me that there will be an app or fix that converts some of those other front lights to message notifications. And then of course there's the relative lack of developer input on Samsung devices.
Ok, so do you think I am talking myself into the Infuse?....maybe, just maybe.

Lmao u diss the infuse then come back and suddenly its way better? Little lost in denial
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Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.

Yes indeed. This inspire has fallen off the back of the car and bounced and slid a goodways before realizing that on this narrow road here in mesquite. I picked it up after backtracking and had dust on the screen that's it. And even had it.upstairs and my nephew dropped the phone 1.5 stories and not one crack nor scratch. Btw had a platinum series casing on the whole time.
NO INSPIRES WERE HURT THRU THESE HORRID TIMES
UberEgo said:
Every Samsung phone I have seen / had my hands on felt poorly made and cheap. Felt like if I touched it the wrong way I would break it! Plus it doesn't have a dual core CPU so I am not seeing the benefit to switching to it and paying $100 more than the Inspire.
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If I wanted a Captivate, I would buy a Captivate. The Infuse is just a stupid phone in my opinion. It's not bad, I'm sure, but it doesn't make sense to buy one with the Holiday and Ma Bell's version of the Galaxy S II right around the corner.
Coredroid Inspire 4G

Would you buy the Sensation again?

Considering buying the sensation this next week.
Would you buy the Sensation again - if you had the choice?

Yep.
My S4G build date was 6/2/11
Yep. I love everything about it although the screen could have been a little less... grainy shall we say. If you've seen it in person and like the screen then that won't be a problem. It's just as fast as my vibrant and thunderbolt when launching apps but it doesn't get bogged down like those two do. It just keeps chugging right along without slowing down. I've had rosie (the UI) relaunch once, and haven't been able to replicate it. It's also a dream to browse on. It might not be as smooth as a GS2 side by side but it'll pretty much blow most other handsets out of the water in that area. Gaming on it is nice too, and I find it's framerates are as good as the Galaxy S1 phones which is great especially given the extra resolution this phone has.
I can only produce the deathgrip by completely wrapping the phone tightly which isn't a natural thing. I think those that are complaining of the death grip need to not hold the phone like they're trying to strangle it. I also have big hands so that can't be used an excuse. When holding it naturally I get a full wifi signal all over my house which none of my other devices could do. GPS locks fairly quick, but not as fast as the thunderbolt. But it works to say the least, and compared to my Galaxy S1 it's lightyears better. Compass also works great.
It's wifi speeds are hitting as high as 17Mbs down and 14Mbs up which is pretty solid.
As far as "4G" speeds in my area i'm seeing between 7-8Mbs which is great although your mileage may vary depending on where you live. My Vibrant would only pull in speeds between 4-5.5 Mbs on a good day in these same areas. Verizon LTE in comparison blows t-mo's 4G speeds out of the water. It's consistently twice as fast as t-mo's. In real world performance it only launches youtube videos 1 or 2 seconds faster so it's not that big of a deal.
The build quality is amazing, and the best handset i've ever held. That includes the iPhone4. I showed it to a friend who has the Incredible and he was practically drooling at it's looks and how smooth the OS felt. I don't know about the design as it does allow a lot of lint behind the case. We'll have to see if that's becomes an issue with lint getting under the screen.
I've only had it for one full day now and simply love it. Sorry for the long post.

no im sick of this [email protected]#king phone this is my third one after constantly swaping with tmobile because of problems

phonegod said:
no im sick of this [email protected]#king phone this is my third one after constantly swaping with tmobile because of problems
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what problems, please explain

Every device has problems. I went through 3 G1's. None of the GS1's had working GPS. The N1 had a ton of problems, and the iPhone has problems. If you go looking for a problem you're going to find it whether it be with this device or not.

So far so good...it's a keeper and will only get much better once rooted!

Yes, love the phone! Coming from a G2 I was hesitant about leaving the keyboard but the screen size and swype has made the transition easy. I havent had any problems with the phone at all although I havent been trying to look for any. Overall this is the 1st phone that I've had that I felt was superior to the iphone 4. Kinda sick of comparisons to the SGS 2, theres about a 500-600 price difference right now and although the Galaxy 2 may be a better phone I think the S4G is a better value....either way theres nothing on the android app store that these phones cant handle...best phone Ive had period

Yeah. The only real problem is the WiFi death grip issue, but whatever.

Had my Rogers One X for a week - impressions

Been lurking on these forums for a long time, finally decided to register to share my thoughts on the One X..
I've predominantly been an iPhone user since the launch of the 3g here in Canada. With a jailbreak and length of usage, I have my iPhone set up to do everything I need it to do almost perfectly. In the last half a year or so, however, I've become tired of looking at iOS. Every time I'd look at android devices with their big screens and useful widgets I'd feel a little pang of jealousy. Thus, I started purchasing Android devices non stop and within the last year, I tried the:
Nexus S
Galaxy Nexus
Galaxy S2
HTC Sensation
and
Galaxy Nexus again
I ended up returning / selling each of these phones for a variety of reasons, the two biggest factors were the lack of comparable pixel density and battery life. After getting rid of the Sensation I bought an iPhone 4S and was disturbed by how much worse the battery life was vs the iPhone 4. My 4 would never come close to dying and the 4S was struggling to make it through a day.
The second galaxy nexus with 4.0.4 was almost perfect BUT the samsung build quality bothered me as it just didn't "feel" like a premium device should in the hand..
I knew as soon as I saw the One X I'd have to give it a try. HTC is known for putting together phones that feel great in the hand and this is a factor for me. So far, this phone has been outstanding! I find myself unlocking it regularly just to look at the display. The battery life has been incredible, I have not come close to having the battery die on me on any given day. Granted, I do more texting, twitter, facebook, browsing and text based things vs playing games. The longest day I've had on it so far is 19h 51m with 4h 18m of screen time and I still had 11% of battery left.
Not being a hardcore android enthusiast as of yet, I don't have too much of an issue with sense 4.0. It's pretty to look at and adds some decent functionality. The downside is the minor lag when flicking between homescreens. I would hope that on a flagship, powerful device they'd be able to have virtually no noticeable lag whilst performing such tasks.
This phone does most things flawlessly, I have zero complaints regarding phone performance, call quality, text msging etc. As a phone, it seems to be working extremely well thus far. It also feels great in the hands, the polycarbonate shell almost has a ceramic feel to it. The size is a bit shocking coming from an iPhone but is easy to adapt to.
However, the device isn't without it's bugs, these are the ones I've noticed so far:
-Display: I know HTC is using two different LCD panels, mine is definitely the warmer of the two being used and the whites have a bit more of a yellowy than a blueish tinge to them. I'm not sure how much this bothers me as of yet as in every way the display seems great to look at, I run auto brightness and don't expect it to be extremely bright. I'd be interested in knowing whether anyone with a Rogers unit has a whiter or yellower display?
-Wifi seems to be an ongoing issue. At first it seemed like it would barely hold onto a solid wifi connection at home. I googled like mad and saw a suggestion regarding hard coding the IP vs using DHCP to solve the issue. I didn't think that would be the solution and found another person saying the phone seemed to work better with a wireless network mode of b/g vs b/g/n so I disabled N on my router and the wifi seems to be much more consistent now but not perfect. At times the wifi bars will just disappear for no apparent reason. I've never had an issue like this with any other wifi device at home. Also attempted a channel change. Hoping it's a software issue that gets sorted with an update
-Camera seems pretty average to me.. This is one area where I think the iPhone still excels beyond any other phone I've ever tried. Its simple camera tends to take pretty good 95% of the time. With the One X so far I had a buddy attempt to snap a quick picture of me and it wasn't great. Have tried a few test pictures around the house and the quality seems okay but not great. Keep in mind, I haven't messed with settings, just literally point and shoot. I don't feel as if though you should have to adjust settings to produce a good quality image with a camera phone, I'm not a photographer and have no real interest in learning about photography. I just want to capture a moment on demand and have it captured fairly well without much effort
-Status bar icons: Last night was the first time I've set an alarm on the phone. The icons in the status bar seemed to be going a bit nuts, the alarm icon would disappear and reappear for no apparent reason. Not sure if I just need a reboot because I haven't heard anything about this anywhere
-Call volume display: When I adjust the volume during a call, the volume display is still on the screen when I'm ending the call, which could be minutes later. For some reason it doesn't seem like it's automatically closing off the screen
Anyway, sorry for the long winded intro and thoughts. Would love to hear feedback regarding the issues I've experienced and would be glad to answer questions regarding the device for those of you still waiting to pick yours up.
Cheers!

Thanks for taking the time to give us info. Good to know.

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Thanks for taking the time to give us info. Good to know.
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+1. Can't wait until Friday!

Hey there tawheed12! Picked up a One XL from Rogers friday last week as well, I'll share my experience with the issues you mentioned and maybe we can get a better picture of what's wrong. (no pun intended)
I too have noticed a yellowish tinge. However, I've been reading a lot on Google Books (reading a book on a screen this size is a real treat) and I've noticed that the more I use the phone with a solid, or near solid white screen, the less the yellowish tinge. It could be my imagination, but it could also be the screen needs to be "broken in". I don't know anything about the manufacturing process for this new generation of SLCDs so it might be possible it just takes time.
I tested the alarm and the call volume display issues, they don't seem to exist on mine for some reason. Alarms stick and the volume bar fades away after a few seconds. I tested normally and in speakerphone mode. I wonder if it's a third party app you're using?
As for the camera, I've fiddled around with most of the settings, and it seems to take more focused/better shots if you turn off the continuous shooting mode and frame your pictures normally. I know the high shutter speed is supposed to be a huge selling point but the bursting just seems useless to me. Still, even with it off, photos aren't brilliant or anything. HDR and Low Light modes can be useful sometimes, everything else just seems gimmicky or redundant to me. I have taken a few good shots though, if you want to compare let me know and I'll upload some.
My router is and has always been less reliable than my phone so I can't test that one out for ya
One thing I've noticed, the stock music app seems a little nonintuitive in some areas. Google Voice Actions' "listen to" command won't actually play anything, it just does a search in the app, and it will only do it ONCE. Further tries just bring you to the original search and ignore what you said. Hardly hands free. It also has random issues mixing up album arts with different albums in the queue. I've switched to Winamp in the meantime, but it's a shame because the stock app works very well otherwise.
One thing really bothering me, my camera clicks when changing focus. It was quiet at first, but it's getting louder fast. I hope there isnt an issue with our batch of phones! I'd appreciate knowing if anyone else is having this issue.
Anyways, hope I helped!

MatinatorX said:
Hey there tawheed12! Picked up a One XL from Rogers friday last week as well, I'll share my experience with the issues you mentioned and maybe we can get a better picture of what's wrong. (no pun intended)
I too have noticed a yellowish tinge. However, I've been reading a lot on Google Books (reading a book on a screen this size is a real treat) and I've noticed that the more I use the phone with a solid, or near solid white screen, the less the yellowish tinge. It could be my imagination, but it could also be the screen needs to be "broken in". I don't know anything about the manufacturing process for this new generation of SLCDs so it might be possible it just takes time.
I tested the alarm and the call volume display issues, they don't seem to exist on mine for some reason. Alarms stick and the volume bar fades away after a few seconds. I tested normally and in speakerphone mode. I wonder if it's a third party app you're using?
As for the camera, I've fiddled around with most of the settings, and it seems to take more focused/better shots if you turn off the continuous shooting mode and frame your pictures normally. I know the high shutter speed is supposed to be a huge selling point but the bursting just seems useless to me. Still, even with it off, photos aren't brilliant or anything. HDR and Low Light modes can be useful sometimes, everything else just seems gimmicky or redundant to me. I have taken a few good shots though, if you want to compare let me know and I'll upload some.
My router is and has always been less reliable than my phone so I can't test that one out for ya
One thing I've noticed, the stock music app seems a little nonintuitive in some areas. Google Voice Actions' "listen to" command won't actually play anything, it just does a search in the app, and it will only do it ONCE. Further tries just bring you to the original search and ignore what you said. Hardly hands free. It also has random issues mixing up album arts with different albums in the queue. I've switched to Winamp in the meantime, but it's a shame because the stock app works very well otherwise.
One thing really bothering me, my camera clicks when changing focus. It was quiet at first, but it's getting louder fast. I hope there isnt an issue with our batch of phones! I'd appreciate knowing if anyone else is having this issue.
Anyways, hope I helped!
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Good to know about the screen. It doesn't really bother me too much until I hold it next to a device with more of a blueish tinge.
I noticed the camera focusing sound too, very odd. Never had a phone that makes any type of audible noise when focusing.
I haven't used the music app so can't really help you on that one.
I'll try and take some good pics and upload them and we can compare!

My only real complaint so far is the wifi. It seems VERY shaky at much smaller distances than other phones I've had, to the point that putting my body between the phone and the router at about 20 feet makes the signal disappear. This is the only phone I've ever owned that had this much trouble with the wifi in my house. Hopefully this is something that can be fixed in software.

I still haven't experienced any issues with WiFi on mine. It's rock solid.
The only thing I can think of, is that I've disabled Packet Aggregation on my router (Asus RT-N56U) due to some incompatibilities with my D-Link AP (constant disconnections). Perhaps it's the same issue.

Don't own one yet, but I've played with the demo unit at AT&T numerous times. About half the time I've had the wifi drop out on me. This is concerning and hope it can be fixed with an update. Regardless, I will be preording my unit tomorrow.

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My only real complaint so far is the wifi. It seems VERY shaky at much smaller distances than other phones I've had, to the point that putting my body between the phone and the router at about 20 feet makes the signal disappear. This is the only phone I've ever owned that had this much trouble with the wifi in my house. Hopefully this is something that can be fixed in software.
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I *HAVE* to assume this is a software issue. It's ridiculous how bad it is. Changing my router to just b/g did make it much more consistent but still not even close to 100%. It's constantly slower than my iPhone testing from the same spots of the house. Could always try to enable the "Best wifi performance" option or whatever but it apparently sucks down quite a bit more battery.

I can also say i have the same issues regarding the wifi! Seems to be a widespread issue.

Great news about the battery because I just mostly text and i talk about a good hour on the phone daily, not really a phone gamer, so my battery should be great fingers crossed.

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Great news about the battery because I just mostly text and i talk about a good hour on the phone daily, not really a phone gamer, so my battery should be great fingers crossed.
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Considering your usage, I think the battery will be more than adequate!
I do keep my brightness on auto, limit some push notifications and keep my GPS off though I doubt the latter two make much of a difference.

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Considering your usage, I think the battery will be more than adequate!
I do keep my brightness on auto, limit some push notifications and keep my GPS off though I doubt the latter two make much of a difference.
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I never have gps on since it sucks so bad on my captivate I have just given up on it for now lol

I got mine about 3 days ago - yesterday and today I have noticed the battery life improving greatly - the first few charge cycles it was a hog, but it seems to be evening out.
I've had many flagship android phones and had an iphone at 6 different times (from 3G to 4S) so I would say I've had my fair share.
This HTC One X is the first android phone I've had that truely feels high end - I LOVE the screen and its all around a great looking device. No complaints from me actually - its also the first android phone I've had I didn't immediately want to flash a new rom on. I will likely flash AOSP on it though at some point, whenever that is possible.
in short - it's a FANTASTIC phone! battery life blows the 4S out of the water.

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I got mine about 3 days ago - yesterday and today I have noticed the battery life improving greatly - the first few charge cycles it was a hog, but it seems to be evening out.
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If you are an avid ROM flasher, you know that on new phones, and after ROM flashes, the battery meter is not calibrated. The actual battery consumption is not changing. Just the % battery that is being displayed is changing (getting more accurate).

kinda lame the "Camera seems pretty average". this is supposedly one of the strong selling points of the device. i'll have my GNex laying around for a bit after i get mine so i'll be doing all kinds of comparisons between the two. i have no doubt, though, that it's going to trump my GNex in spades.

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kinda lame the "Camera seems pretty average". this is supposedly one of the strong selling points of the device. i'll have my GNex laying around for a bit after i get mine so i'll be doing all kinds of comparisons between the two. i have no doubt, though, that it's going to trump my GNex in spades.
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On the at&t model the camera is clean. Compared to my iPhone 4s and vivid cameras
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On the at&t model the camera is clean. Compared to my iPhone 4s and vivid cameras
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that's good to know. yeah i've been lurking on the engadget review for the international one and they had this to say:
"Now let's talk about image quality. We pitted the One X against the current cream of the crop -- the N8, Amaze 4G, iPhone 4S and Galaxy Note (which uses the same module as the Galaxy S II) plus Canon's S95 compact point-and-shoot. The camera landed somewhere in the middle of this star-studded pack, marginally beating the Galaxy Note and iPhone 4S while almost matching the Amaze 4G. Sure, it's not in the same league as the N8 (which rivals the S95 in some cases), but this is one stellar camera, especially when you consider that HTC is not positioning this phone as an imaging-centric device like the Amaze 4G."

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that's good to know. yeah i've been lurking on the engadget review for the international one and they had this to say:
"Now let's talk about image quality. We pitted the One X against the current cream of the crop -- the N8, Amaze 4G, iPhone 4S and Galaxy Note (which uses the same module as the Galaxy S II) plus Canon's S95 compact point-and-shoot. The camera landed somewhere in the middle of this star-studded pack, marginally beating the Galaxy Note and iPhone 4S while almost matching the Amaze 4G. Sure, it's not in the same league as the N8 (which rivals the S95 in some cases), but this is one stellar camera, especially when you consider that HTC is not positioning this phone as an imaging-centric device like the Amaze 4G."
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Trust me. When you get this phone. You won't be dissappointed. Esp in camera area. But again, its a phone, not a dedicated camera, so its kind of silly seeing people dis phone makers because areas like cameras, gaming, screen reso is not stelllar. Want a great camera? Lol buy a camera, want a great gaming console? Buy a game console. Want great display? Go get a 55 LCD screen tv. Maybe I'm just excited about this phone.
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I have to agree the only two complaints I have with mine. The first is the Wi-Fi it seems spotty unless I am less than ten feet from my router. The only other complaint I have is with the sense keyboard. I am testing a few alternatives so its more a preference than anything. Bottom line though the One X is probably the best device I have used in a long time.
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