[Q] Interested in the SK4G, but... - T-Mobile Sidekick 4G

Okay, so the sidekick 4G is the only Sidekick that has truly interested me. I've liked the design, but Danger's OS was crap. Now the it has been finally been poisoned with
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finally, it's gotten more interesting. But...
The SK4G doesn't match up to my myTouch 4G, especially since it's running CM7 and overclocked to 1.8 GHz. And...
The Sidekick 4G doesn't seem like it will get a lot of development. Will it get Cyanogenmod ? MIUI ? Honeycomb ? Anything?
So is it worth getting ?

This phone was recently released about 6 days ago and the source+root were released too not that long ago. I would wait to see things like oc or CM...But the phone is very similar to its galaxy brothers so it might end up being easier to develop for...But first we need a fully working recovery, the one from the oneclick root is buggy right now.

Here are the phones I have used for at least 15 days a piece over the last year: G1, Dell Streak, G2, back to G1, iPhone 3G, Galaxy S 4G, a Nexus S, SideKick 4G.
The Nexus S was by far the best non-keyboard, but I really miss a hardware keyboard. One that has a number row and is easy to grip with one hand unlike the G2. I also really miss not having an LED like most GalaxyS other than the SideKick 4G. Plus soft function keys drive me crazy when trying to hold the phone horizontally.
I'm willing to give up size, weight, and big beautiful screen in exchange for a full keyboard, a notification LED, and hard function keys. If Sprint worked at my house I would be using the Epic for the good screen + keybaord, but in my opinion the SideKick is the best TMobile phone available right now (and for the foreseeable future).
What I really want is a slightly smaller/lighter SideKick, with arrow keys on the keyboard like the Epic, and the screen being as big as the phone and high-res like the Epic, plus maybe an NFC radio (still useless on Nexus S).

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Here are the phones I have used for at least 15 days a piece over the last year: G1, Dell Streak, G2, back to G1, iPhone 3G, Galaxy S 4G, a Nexus S, SideKick 4G.
The Nexus S was by far the best non-keyboard, but I really miss a hardware keyboard. One that has a number row and is easy to grip with one hand unlike the G2. I also really miss not having an LED like most GalaxyS other than the SideKick 4G. Plus soft function keys drive me crazy when trying to hold the phone horizontally.
I'm willing to give up size, weight, and big beautiful screen in exchange for a full keyboard, a notification LED, and hard function keys. If Sprint worked at my house I would be using the Epic for the good screen + keybaord, but in my opinion the SideKick is the best TMobile phone available right now (and for the foreseeable future).
What I really want is a slightly smaller/lighter SideKick, with arrow keys on the keyboard like the Epic, and the screen being as big as the phone and high-res like the Epic, plus maybe an NFC radio (still useless on Nexus S).
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I concur I got put into this sideick to test it out...my epic 4g is still packed..idk its something about this phone that makes me want 2 keep it over the epic....oo welll hopefully they make a high class verison of the sidekick! Or epic 2 is super nice idk
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I don't even like keyboards and I find this phone to be great. Won one for free and ever since it's release i've been using it and enjoying
Better than A Mytouch slide, Better than the Motorola Cliq 2 and Better the G2.
Great phone

I love hard keyboards...this is by far the best keyboard I've ever used, the screen is bright....I just wish it didn't have this retarted overlay...I hate it. Native android would be much better.
For horsepower at the same price at T-mobile, no doubt Snapdragon rules and that means the mytouch 4G....amazingly fast every way you measure it...esp you can overclock at least 50%....everything on the phone is fast, I guess HTC really does rule....now if they could come up with a keyboard as nice as the Sidekick 4G....

What overlay... the launcher? Use ADW or Launcher Pro. The dialer rules compared to others, but again, I prefer 3rd party anyway. To me every android phone is the same (besides speed and hardware design). Hopefully we will get CM7 soon and then it will really be the same, but I have no real issue with stock+ADW+DialerOne.

I just got my girlfriend the SK4G (and myself a G2X) and I have to say, coming from a MyTouch 4G - both phones are superior (yes, even with the awesome work of Faux123 and TeamRoyal). The SK4G's main draw is definitely the keyboard - make no mistake about that. The keyboard is by far the best typing experience available on a smartphone today, in my opinion. The only downsides to the phone that I can tell are:
1) Screen is a little small (only an issue when in portrait mode)
2) Buttons are oriented for landscape mode (not really an issue since the keyboard is what you'll want to be using anyway)
3) No camera flash
4) UI design is a a pretty large departure from what I've been use to with previous Android devices (not necessarily a bad thing either)
5) System doesn't feel fully optimized - the Hummingbird SOC can definitely perform better. I'll leave this up to the devs.
Those five items aside, the phone is solid, screen is vibrant, reception fantastic, battery life is epic, and the keyboard is a qwerty lover's dream.
That's about it Hope the dev community picks up for this wonderful device.

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rpmccormick said:
Here are the phones I have used for at least 15 days a piece over the last year: G1, Dell Streak, G2, back to G1, iPhone 3G, Galaxy S 4G, a Nexus S, SideKick 4G.
The Nexus S was by far the best non-keyboard, but I really miss a hardware keyboard. One that has a number row and is easy to grip with one hand unlike the G2. I also really miss not having an LED like most GalaxyS other than the SideKick 4G. Plus soft function keys drive me crazy when trying to hold the phone horizontally.
I'm willing to give up size, weight, and big beautiful screen in exchange for a full keyboard, a notification LED, and hard function keys. If Sprint worked at my house I would be using the Epic for the good screen + keybaord, but in my opinion the SideKick is the best TMobile phone available right now (and for the foreseeable future).
What I really want is a slightly smaller/lighter SideKick, with arrow keys on the keyboard like the Epic, and the screen being as big as the phone and high-res like the Epic, plus maybe an NFC radio (still useless on Nexus S).
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Was wadering through the mall deciding where to go for my next phone, and the live demo(as it were) of this phone has me close to drooling. Everything about it fits me perfectly. The keyboard typing never missed a letter for me, and the jump key was real cool imho as well. I happen to like the theme that comes with it, framework-res.apk speaking. I also ran quadrant on it and got better than my X10 here running <check my sig>. As for the screen, I am a tad dissappointed tht if i get it I'll lose my cool 16:9 screen on the X10, and a half inch of diag. width, but that way the pixel density goes up resulting in better quality and the colors are just awesome for my eyes.
I must inform you..
The sidekick has an optical trackpad between the back and menu buttons. It also happens to click. So, the phone does in a way have arrow keys.

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Leo vs. Mega vs. Nexus One

which one is the best overall device? Owners only please, no fanboys/trolls.
Grade the phones on this criteria out of 5(ie x/5):
OS:
Size/pocketability:
Battery life:
Processor speed:
Ease of use:
usability of on-screen keyboard:
Apps:
US 3G Support (AT&T to be specific):
Overall:
Just to kick things off im going to weigh in on my current phone, the TP2:
OS: 3/5 (using sense 2.5) (5/5 with android)
Size/pocketability: 2/5
Battery life: 5/5
Processor speed: 2/5
Ease of use: 4/5
usability of on-screen keyboard: 1/5
Apps: 2/5
US 3G Support (AT&T to be specific): full support
Overal: 3/5
Leo HD2
Leo HD2
OS:5/5 to be honest I think WM6.5 with the Sense on top is amazing never freezes on my phone anymore after installing NRGZ's Energy Rom.
Size/pocketability: 4/5 Although it's big never found it to be a problem in any pocket.
Battery life:3/5 For a smart phone pretty good but with heavy usage drops pretty quick aswel. On standby lasts for ages.
Processor speed: 5/5 everything is pretty much instant
Ease of use: 5/5 Didn't strugle with anything
usability of on-screen keyboard: 4/5 could be better still getting used to it. Theres ways of making typing easier but isnt really an isue for me.
Apps: 2/5 at the moment not much about but it's early days to fingers crossed.
US 3G Support (AT&T to be specific): 5/5
Overall:
I think this is a great phone. I must admit with the stock ROM it wouldn't have achieved the scores I gave but with a bit of messing around it's simply amazing. Also when you can play a PS1 on the go always getting a 5/5 from me lol
Haven't experianced any of the others phones but to be honest whichever you pick bar the MEGA don't think you will be dissapointed its really a LEO vs Nexus battle so if you want android Nexus WM Leo.
Hope this helps
Both the HD2 & N1 are great choices...but depends on your OS, Apps, etc. preference's.
I have the Nexus One and there's no looking back...it is so fast & cool!
Personally, I would choose Leo, but as galaxys says, all will depend on what you want/need from a device.
Have a look here for a detailed comparative:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2067&id2=2174&id3=2028
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I´m not an owner just gave this neutral full info, hope it´s ok
thanks for the thoughts. I think ive narrowed it down to the Nexus One and the HD2. Im still really torn though. I love android but i love stuff like the FM tuner and the dual flash in the HD2. :/ The other thing thats holding me back is the fact that they dont support ATT 3G. I heard about a ATT N1 but that could be months because ATT takes AGES to adopt unlocked phones, it took them almost a year for them to adopt the TP2. what to do, what to do....
Great thread so far!
I'm in the exact situation, but in London/UK
I'm currently on O2 via CPW (Car Phone Warehouse) which means I can jump to whoever, but have decided that I will buy the phone off-line to save a fair amount of money and use whatever SiM I feel fit. I'm not a greedy mobile user, but like at least anything from 400 to 1000 minutes talk on any network, similar or unlimited SMS's, and unlimited web usage.
Anywho... I was dead set on the HD2, as I'm coming from a HTC Touch HD. However, the Nexus One is almost like for like in actual spec, but of course a different and new OS to me. The main pluses that tipping the scales towards the HTC HD2 is (mainly) the larger screen, have a lot of great WM OS applications that I know and use often, M$ Office which I use at least once a week, the WM Contacts works pretty damn close to M$ Office on my HTPC (W7x64) and well lastly I know WM OS.
I'm not afraid of new that's for sure, as I been in more complicated situations and do a ROM update almost every couple weeks. I'm a heavy Windows user, but sadly have to use Mac OS on a weekly basis too, being a film editor (Mac's are NOT the best for film editing, but somehow other humans think it is).
So what is it about the Nexus One that gives it the ability to compete with the HD2? Are there plenty of great apps out there already? Does Android sync with M$ Outlook 2007 (or even 2010) perfectly OK? Is there anything I'm going to miss or moan about soon into a week of using a Nexus One?
What is your typical day on your phone 'bdk184'... what is key to you? [^_^]
I love my Touch HD, but wish it was faster and possible a better screen. The HD2 simply answers that... but somehow, I keep hearing in the back of my headphones... Nexus One. [-_-]
PS. Thanks for that comparison 'orb3000'... although it's made me think more, it's got me thinking the right questions. The Nexus One has a better colour depth... Hmm!?! [^_^]
i own the nexus one, and to be honest i do not like android... the phone is nice and all but i would prefer getting the htc hd2.
New - HTC Incredible on Android OS
@un1uncky - LoL! I think I've felt that many times too, but when I start using WinMo again, feels fine until I start hitting all the ugly GUi's again.
Hmm... another option maybe... HTC Incredible / http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...top-end-android-specs-668954?src=rss&attr=all
un1ucky said:
i own the nexus one, and to be honest i do not like android... the phone is nice and all but i would prefer getting the htc hd2.
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Never have I seen a name which suits as good as yours!!
Have you considered trying to do a trade for a HD2 in Marketplace or a straight sell to fund getting a HD2?

Whats your FAV phone design!!!

Hi
I realized that there has been tons of thread about fav apps, games, phones,etc. but never about phone design. I have realized that I am not happy with my phone design, as a matter of fact there isn't any phone in the market of my design. So I have decided to draw it and talk about it (since I cant make it, lol). I am pretty sure others in this forum have prefferences for design.
DPAD/Track ball
I have moved to Android recently, bought a x10. After x10 came out I have started to note that a lot phones recently don't have dpad or track ball. I guess since multitouch screen came out they started to take out the dpad and track ball. You can see it in all of the new phones; just to name a few
Acer Liquid
Motoroi
Nokia X6
Samsung Captivate
HD2
TG01
Some HTC phones still have dpad though. It might seem very useless if you think about it. Now if you think it is useless try this, start typing and make a mistake (a wrong alphabet) but keep on typing then, try to come back to that alphabet. See how hard it is! When you are trying to go that alphabet, you tap on to the word but the cursor doesn't fall on that right place. Now if we had a dpad or track ball it would have solved the problem. I can totally understand why companies are recently avoiding those. I believe it is because, if they have to put a track ball or dpad it take up more frontal area therefore less area for screen (otherwise the phone will become pretty big). At the same time track ball and dpad both are big mechnical system so it takes volume too.
In motorola Backflip they really had an itelligent design. The trackpad in the back, I think other phones should do that too. Imagine nexus without the bottom part. It becomes small!!!
BUTTONS
Recently buttons are becoming touch-sensetive buttons. Why touch button?? They have no physical feedback! Well I understand it takes up more space and size to acomodate physical button, especailly when you have to put three or four. But there could be better way to solve this. Say you acomodate one button and four touch button. Now when you put your finger on top of a button, the LDR sences your finger then when you depress it then it fires. So it will be a plate of LDRs on top of a physical button. Check the pics for better understanding.
So anyone else has other designs??
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I love the HD2 design, the pure simplicity and utility of it. Although the Nexus One is the most beautifully designed phones out there I perhaps slightly prefer a bit more industrial look.
Now if only I could snug a N1-type glowing trackball somewhere in there...
My phone has to have a portrait physical qwerty keyboard and a touchscreen, so either a front facing keyboard touch screen candy bar or a portrait touchscreen slider.
This is my favorite design, shame nothing continued that unbeatable line
Also Like Leo, Rhodium and Maple designs
I know I'll be going to hell for saying this, but the design of the iphone 4 is my favorite thus far. I noticed that a lot of smartphones out nowadays (HD2, incredible, EVO, droid, droid x, iphone 3g/3gs, etc etc) really don't have a simplistic and elegant look to them. Something always gotta stick out, odd lines, little chin, curvy body, etc. But with the iphone4, everything is flushed. It doesnt wobble, nothing is really sticking out where it shouldn't and most of all, it looks very elegant and "high-end." Sure I couldn't care less about the iOS, but I have to give props to the designers and the manufacturing processes to achieve that level of end result. I just wish HTC would pull their collective heads out of their asses and start going industrial with their design. Looking at their leaked 2010 roadmap from the beginning of the year, it seems like all their phones have the same shell but just different internals.
EDIT: of course, I'm talking about the overall aesthetic and not radio antenna placement ;]
I'm going with a slide-out keyboard.
The black-berry design with they keyboard under the screen, the keyboard is too small and hard to use.
I love my Tytn II, the newer phones with the Snapdragon CPU would be great.
Touch Pro 2 design, same idea.
lude219 said:
I know I'll be going to hell for saying this, but the design of the iphone 4 is my favorite thus far. I noticed that a lot of smartphones out nowadays (HD2, incredible, EVO, droid, droid x, iphone 3g/3gs, etc etc) really don't have a simplistic and elegant look to them. Something always gotta stick out, odd lines, little chin, curvy body, etc. But with the iphone4, everything is flushed. It doesnt wobble, nothing is really sticking out where it shouldn't and most of all, it looks very elegant and "high-end." Sure I couldn't care less about the iOS, but I have to give props to the designers and the manufacturing processes to achieve that level of end result. I just wish HTC would pull their collective heads out of their asses and start going industrial with their design. Looking at their leaked 2010 roadmap from the beginning of the year, it seems like all their phones have the same shell but just different internals.
EDIT: of course, I'm talking about the overall aesthetic and not radio antenna placement ;]
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You're not alone. There's so many Android phones coming out, but I have yet to see one that is able to match the aesthetics of Apple or even Nokia. I really wish there was an Android phone that looked as good as the iPhone 4.
androidlicious said:
You're not alone. There's so many Android phones coming out, but I have yet to see one that is able to match the aesthetics of Apple or even Nokia. I really wish there was an Android phone that looked as good as the iPhone 4.
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X10 actually looks pretty damn good, up untill you put it in your hand and realize that it is made of cheap plastic. But asthetics is not everything, we need to make them usable too.
orb3000 said:
This is my favorite design, shame nothing continued that unbeatable line
Also Like Leo, Rhodium and Maple designs
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so just the phones you have
It has to be the TP2 they seem to have that some thing special its a great design but i think it needs a lot more in the engine dept
Zac.Santer said:
so just the phones you have
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of course!
thas iswhy i buy them
orb3000 said:
of course!
thas iswhy i buy them
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What about any new devices
Say the evo or the nexus one etc
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I think the Tilt2 would be ideal if they replaced the stupid slider bar with a d-pad and then made it slide the same way as a Palm Pre so you could one'hand text with buttons.

Just tried the New Sprint Echo - Don't Bother.

Wow, complete fail. I knew I had my doubts about anything made by Kyocera, but I was not prepared for utter cheapness and ugliness of this device. And the screen quality - don't get me started. I felt like I was looking at a Blackberry from 2005.
The dual screen concept is nice and probably will be improved over time. But this first trip out of the barn really is a mule with a broken leg and a bad case of the mange.
If you were tempted to use your EVO trade-up for this device, save your time and money and wait for the EVO 3D.
Right now the only Android MFR's to consider are Motorola and HTC IMHO. Didn't think this device was worth anything anyway
Well OK you can add Samsung to this list
I was looking at this phone when I realized my 2 year was up on April 1st. It seemed interesting but I just knew there wouldn't be any app support for it. I have read a few reviews saying that the hinge, although goofy, is surprisingly strong.
I was going to just wait until the Evo 3D came out and not even get the Evo, but I caved. In a way I'm glad I did though, I have it all rooted and installed C7 on it with Tiamat 3.5.7. I used these forums to customize my hero as well.
Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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Jasonhunterx said:
Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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Dual screen cellphones are a great idea. I personally feel they may be the wave of the future just like multimonitor computer setups are so popular now. However, this phone is little more than proof of concept. Sprint will take a bath on this.
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Thanks for confirming what I already suspected. I have not had a chance to handle one yet, but the looks alone told me it was gonna be el cheapo. Kind of a shame really. The concept is pretty cool. I don't think it's going to last because of the introduction of flexible LED displays in the near future. Much better if you don't have to have a seam in the middle of your display!
Op, maybe you can complain enough to get the phone removed. You seem to be good at that...
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Right now the only Android MFR's to consider are Motorola and HTC IMHO. Didn't think this device was worth anything anyway
Well OK you can add Samsung to this list
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Don't you mean HTC and Samsung? I don't think you'll find a whole lot of love for the Moto phones here on XDA with the encrypted bootloaders and all.
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Don't you mean HTC and Samsung? I don't think you'll find a whole lot of love for the Moto phones here on XDA with the encrypted bootloaders and all.
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I know some people like the Moto's but I forgot about Samsung and them at the last minute. I'm just glad I didn't forget all together I would have been flammed all over the place
I demo'd this phone in store today, also. Sprint tech was "watching TV" on it at the front counter. Played with it for five minutes:
Hinge has an addicting snap sound to it, as is the whole process of folding/unfolding the phone. Even having a 1GHz Snapdragon, the phone was still laggy (opening apps, scrolling through the drawer). As we all figured, besides the Sprint bloatware, this phone is pretty much AOSP--I don't believe Kyocera ever threw in their own frontend.
Rep was running Sprint TV for roughly twenty minutes, and battery was already down to 78%! Battery percentage indicator is stock, at least. LOL! Kyocera has thrown in an extra battery in the package for a reason.
Screens by themselves are SMALL! We know the specs, but looking at the screen IRL leaves MUCH to be desired. All in all, it's a novelty, at best. You're not getting anything practical out of a dual screen phone unless you ABSOLUTELY need to shave MILLISECONDS off of your time. This phone is a miss for me, which sucks, because I was looking forward to it because my phone upgrade is due in July. EVO 3D, here I come.
My oldest son was buying his finacee an evo while my youngest son and I played the echo...I asked the manager how many they have sold and he said no a one...That was 1:34 pm today.
Within 3 minutes of playing with the echo I was blah....
Picture of my son playing with the echo today.
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Critical battery, guess it's been 2 hours, time to change to the other battery :/...
I bought one yesterday to replace my EVO which I have had since launch and had the extended battery for.
I just cannot understand where all the hate for this phone comes from. With the screens open it is nearly tablet sized. I call this phone more of a "tablet crossover", where it does great as a phone and then when needed gives you a ton of room to work on things in near tablet size.
The phone is also pretty small, but thick. Feels good in hand and in pocket and very well built.
Battery life yesterday was fine mostly connected to wifi. Today will be my first day out and about with it.
It has been buttery smooth for me, no stutters or lags. I've already become used to the small black space between the screens and don't even notice it. Not sure on the comment about the screen quality, both displays are superb in my opinion.
Sure, the phone is different than anything we have seen before. So far it has exceeded my expectations and I don't miss the Evo at all. Can't tell you how nice it is to flip the screens together to get some work done and have all the extra space.
A couple other thoughts -
I have mostly used it with apps full screen in tablet mode, and it has worked beautifully for nearly everything I have tried, including apps like Pulse reader.
Simultask works well also, although I haven't found myself using it that much. Was cool when I saw some mails coming in and I was browsing the web, I brought the mail client into one of the screens and continued to browse as I was reviewing mail. Also it's great how the mail client uses both screens to list mail on one screen and review on another.
Camera app is awesome with how it uses both screens.
Pretty much vanilla android 2.2 all the way around. Very nice in that regard.
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DomSim said:
Op, maybe you can complain enough to get the phone removed. You seem to be good at that...
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Actually, I am good at helping people. Perhaps that is why I have 420 thank-you's compared to your 23. If you spent less time attacking me and more time learning enough about Android where you could assist others, maybe you won't look so foolish by comparison next time?
mhoepfin said:
I bought one yesterday to replace my EVO which I have had since launch and had the extended battery for.
I just cannot understand where all the hate for this phone comes from. With the screens open it is nearly tablet sized. I call this phone more of a "tablet crossover", where it does great as a phone and then when needed gives you a ton of room to work on things in near tablet size.
The phone is also pretty small, but thick. Feels good in hand and in pocket and very well built.
Battery life yesterday was fine mostly connected to wifi. Today will be my first day out and about with it.
It has been buttery smooth for me, no stutters or lags. I've already become used to the small black space between the screens and don't even notice it. Not sure on the comment about the screen quality, both displays are superb in my opinion.
Sure, the phone is different than anything we have seen before. So far it has exceeded my expectations and I don't miss the Evo at all. Can't tell you how nice it is to flip the screens together to get some work done and have all the extra space.
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As with any phone, it is a matter of taste. For those who are more into utility and care less about aesthetics, this phone is probably fine. However, I am surprised you don't notice that the image quality on the screen is far inferior to the EVO? Like I said, I am a big fan of THIS IDEA, I'm just not a fan of this phone. Seems more like a proof-of-concept than a finished product.
Glad you like your Echo
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Probably sucks now but if Samsung tries it with dual super amoled then it will be great since they are best company at hardware wise when it comes to phones but not software but that is y xda is here
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totally agree....... +1
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Oh ****! Hahahahaha
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Not surprising one bit. This was the last time I ever purchased anything from Kyocera. The lens cover decide to close when you turn the power ON and open when you turn the power OFF...after 2wks of pampering.

Who Do You Think the next Nexus Will Go to?

Early last year, HTC got it, and Samsung got it late last year. So who will get this years? I think Motorola personally because there one of the 3 largest Android phone producers besides HTC and Samsung. It was rumored last year that Motorola would be making the "Nexus 2"
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But obviously turned out untrue. Google will probably give all its major manufacturers the chance.
Opinions?
Very much open still.
Hoping to see a well built device this time with at least a 4.3" display. I'll probably standby for the new Nexus about during the year's end.
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It's going be $ony and not motorola everrrrr
Hope another samsung phone
the best android device= samsung's hardware+google in charge of software
Samsung 100%
Hoping for HTC!
arika44 said:
Hope another samsung phone
the best android device= samsung's hardware+google in charge of software
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May I ask what is that you like about Samsung's hardware? What are your reasons?
Personally, I very much prefer have HTC make it.
(I was very hesitant to buy my Nexus S because of this, loving it now though)
MrNago said:
May I ask what is that you like about Samsung's hardware? What are your reasons?
Personally, I very much prefer have HTC make it.
(I was very hesitant to buy my Nexus S because of this, loving it now though)
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Samsung themselves have cpu and screen, see how galaxy s and galaxy s ii are popular
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Nexus X from motorola
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Hoping to see a well built device this time with at least a 4.3" display.
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Aaaaaaa.... no. We are speaking about a phone, not a tablet. You want to hold up a 5" in your face ? I don't think so...
It should be a 4" or below. Personally, I think NS has almost the perfect ratio for the screen size, not too big to hold in your hands, not too small for your fingers to glide.
Also, Motorola ? Really ? Damn, I sure hope not. They suck, as well as LG and Sony. Crappy handsets. HTC is the prime factor in build quality. Samsung takes up no. 2. And that's about it. And because everyone would love a SAMOLED+ display on the new Nexus, then I guess Samsung is the way to go (again). I wouldn't mind it, its current build quality is not very bad (but not as good as HTC's).
lambda30 said:
Aaaaaaa.... no. We are speaking about a phone, not a tablet. You want to hold up a 5" in your face ? I don't think so...
It should be a 4" or below. Personally, I think NS has almost the perfect ratio for the screen size, not too big to hold in your hands, not too small for your fingers to glide.
Also, Motorola ? Really ? Damn, I sure hope not. They suck, as well as LG and Sony. Crappy handsets. HTC is the prime factor in build quality. Samsung takes up no. 2. And that's about it. And because everyone would love a SAMOLED+ display on the new Nexus, then I guess Samsung is the way to go (again). I wouldn't mind it, its current build quality is not very bad (but not as good as HTC's).
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I disagree. The build quality of my Nexus S is far superior to that of my HTC Evo.
But I do agree completely that 4 inches is the absolute max screen size.
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chikilin1389 said:
Nexus X from motorola
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You beat me to it!
There was the rumor going around about an LG Nexus tablet, but maybe they'll manufacture the next Nexus phone instead. Crazier things have happened.
Whoever gets it, I hope they bring back the contour surface. I think thats what makes nexus s look so unique.
It would be nice if they did a joint venture of HTC and Samsung. I love HTC construction, nice alluminum unibody, and the qHD Display looks pretty good too. Though the SAMOLED+ isn't a slouch neither. But I am would love to have the dual-core Exynos CPU not to mention Samsung flash mem and cameras. I'm sure however it shakes out it will be yet another awsome phone.
If I had my choice and had to choose one manufacturer I'd have to say HTC. quality is just so much better. If feels like a highend phone when you hold it. The Nexus S doesn't. With that being said I doubt Google would go back to HTC or Samsung. Who I think is going to be next is Motorola. Especially if LG is going to do the Tablet. Only makes sense. But who knows maybe they'll get RIM to do it. RIM is doing a lot of Android stuff with there phones and software. Maybe its the natural progress. Though it would be very very weird.
Maybe Apple might ditch their dumb IOS and join hands with Google and Make iNexus
I owned a lot of HTC devices before. While I do agree that the phone feels right in the hand, I have to say that nearly all of them had to go to service once. The only exception was the HTC diamond. The n1 with the faulty power button, the desire twice with faulty motherboard. The screen on my ex DHD was way washed out. I do think that slowly, HTC is getting out of the competition. One with the outdated hardware (except for the sensation) e.g thunderbolt, desire s, incredible s... and then with the locking of the bootloader.
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I think Samsung hardware is far eclipsing the thought of HTC having better hardware. Samsung's fault is their SW update track record, but their hardware is top-notch. Can anyone say they haven't had a problem with an HTC device? From flaky touchscreen response on the Nexus One, to terrible speakers and battery life of my Desire, Inspire, Desire Z, and everyone's Thunderbolts, can we really compare these devices to Samsung's SAMOLED+ and better-than-average speakers?
Here's what people should be saying:
"I like the aluminum bodies that HTC phones have."
Should be Nexus X(peria)
from Sony. ..
I think LG will be the next one to get it and it might have a dual core processor.
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I disagree. The build quality of my Nexus S is far superior to that of my HTC Evo.
But I do agree completely that 4 inches is the absolute max screen size.
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I agree. All my HTC phones have had bad build quality. I think all people consider with "build quality" is the materials on the outside when it also should consist of do these materials actually function or last? So many bad build quality reports from HTC. Glass coming off the EVO, Nexus Ones bad touchscreen & power button, bad battery life, bad screens in the MT4G, etc.
I preferred my Nexus S's build quality to my Nexus One any day.
But, of all the manufacturers, Motorola has been my favorite. All of them have been so solid and sturdy in hand. Never any build quality problems and their quite rugged (some). I have no experience with Sony, but my LG Incite had horrible build quality (creaky, but so easy to take apart. Just like taking a hard case off a phone basically ). Samsung is so-so. My Nexus S was excellent, my Captivate was not. The Captivate just doesn't feel right to me. Not sure why there is so much hate for Motorola (I suppose the locked bootloader? And all the accusations of Blur when people haven't tried it/ used it since the 1.5 phones) and so much love for HTC when they have so many problems.

Would I be crazy if I wanted to switch to a sensation from the SGS2?

I have a SGS2 right now and it's the best phone I've ever owned but I'm BORED )
I know the sensation is slower in all aspects but have the issues like the wifi death grip, laggy software etc been resolved with custom roms?
Samsung may have the best hardware but HTC still makes the most exciting phones
You do what you want to do. Both phones have their pros and cons and you are aware of them.
I love my Sensation.
I'm thinking about switching from my Sensation to the SGS2 actually haha. Just waiting for it to come out on Tmobile. My sensation isn't bad but the SGS2 just seem like it has better build quality. Not sure will have to try the SGS2 first once it comes out.
luan87us said:
I'm thinking about switching from my Sensation to the SGS2 actually haha. Just waiting for it to come out on Tmobile. My sensation isn't bad but the SGS2 just seem like it has better build quality. Not sure will have to try the SGS2 first once it comes out.
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GS2 better build quality? Dude...LOL
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lol samsung build quality is no where near on parr with HTC lol... samsung use cheap plastic... lol in my opinion anyway
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lol samsung build quality is no where near on parr with HTC lol... samsung use cheap plastic... lol in my opinion anyway
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agreed
10char
Samsung's build quality is top notch, they just want it to be the lightest and slimmest phone hence the plastic. If you've toyed around with the sgs2 you'd be pretty amazed how they were able to make the whole thing.
What I do miss from HTC is the different amounts of roms available. With samsung you only get stock, CM is crap even with the old sgs.
Samsung generally makes devices which will work, but will break at the drop of a hat. Really depends what you class as build quality, Where as HTC generally makes devices which work (maybe not to the extent of samsung) but are very hard to damage and are easily modded. Really depends on what you want from a device to which suits you more.
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Samsung's build quality is top notch, they just want it to be the lightest and slimmest phone hence the plastic. If you've toyed around with the sgs2 you'd be pretty amazed how they were able to make the whole thing.
What I do miss from HTC is the different amounts of roms available. With samsung you only get stock, CM is crap even with the old sgs.
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Pare, I have toyed with SGS2, believe me, it is nowhere near the feel of the sensation in your hands. The sensation just feels solid and robust compared to the SGS2 which is too light and feels flimsy somehow and ugly. Grab a sensation and play with it and you will know what I mean. It's nice to have 16Gb of nternal memory though and 1Gb or ram with SGS2
Edit: The nice thing about the sensation design is that you can replace the whole back cover if you damaged it and it will be like brand new.
My bro owns a SGSII and I own a sensation...and HTC is a one way phone I believe..i mean you can come from SGSII to Sensation, but you will not be able to go back... try it dude....you will remember my words .... the slow sensation can be made faster enough by lots of ROM available on XDA itself.... by looks, by build quality... by UI...i always feel sensation is the BEST...
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i must say i disagree with the above post (no offence) but stick with galaxy s2. all the htc sensation can offer you is htc sense apart from that there mostly identical, and also dont be drawn in with the qhd display, its fantastic none the less but it wont put a dent on the s2. i know this as i own both of them, and also be patient as someone's working on a port of htc sense for the galaxy s2 so im sure that will cure your boardness
Put it this way. If your going to do a straight swap, then go for it. But if you have to fork extra dough just to get the sensation, then just keep your SGS2 because it is probably not worth it.
I had the sgs2, I had it for 17 days and my friend lost it (long story), to be honest I am kinda glad they did lose it.
The sgs2 is a stupidly powerful phone true. But the build quality is bad, you always feel like it will snap in your pocket if you sit down, I think it's also too thin (i know people like it thin, but it feels awful in the hand).
It's personal preference but the HTC sensation feels awesome in the hand and it looks sexy. The screen on the HTC sensation is also just so nice. Granted the super Amoled + is pretty gorgeous too.
On the whole the galaxy is a lot faster, but as far as build quality, looks and feel in your hand you will not be disappointed with the sensation.
But yeah personal preference, both are great devices.
My previous phone was a iPhone4 and coming to the qHD screen made me so happy. Higher resolution is the real future.
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Not that benchmarks mean too much.
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dav08094194 said:
i must say i disagree with the above post (no offence) but stick with galaxy s2. all the htc sensation can offer you is htc sense apart from that there mostly identical, and also dont be drawn in with the qhd display, its fantastic none the less but it wont put a dent on the s2. i know this as i own both of them, and also be patient as someone's working on a port of htc sense for the galaxy s2 so im sure that will cure your boardness
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When compared with HTC SENSATION:
The only thing i would like to take from SGSII is its battery life
Else i like Sensation...i sold me prev sensation and had to buy another phone...i had a very good look at my bro's SGSII and eventually decided to get Sensation again...
Yes, display for SGSII is more brighter and colourful, but qHD display is even better in Sensation .....
I kinda wish i kept my EVO 3D... Still waiting for sgs2 to wow me.
I just need a better interface.. Touchwiz sucks compared to sense.
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I see alot of broken evos and alot of broken charging ports and blown out speakers on evos from working at sprint I do see the occasional messed up epic but its mostly software issues. I know this about tmo but just letting you guys know what I see from manufacturers plus the evo 3d has its own issues as well but mostly software too
**** yea
Haha, both phones are currently the top dawgs in the Android world, but like everything in the tech world, the next big thing is already looming (Galaxy Note, for one)
Unlike a pc, how fast do you really need a phone to be? Will the yellow bird in angry birds accelerate any faster? will the FPS in Backstab or Need for Speed improve? Custom Sense Roms have eliminated all lag issues, and i personally have never experienced a grip of death, whether for wifi or phone signal.
But i get where youre coming from pare, the grass is always greener on the other side. Since I own a Sensation, i find myself curious about the SGS2.
If youre serious about a swap, just PM me, maybe we can work something out Looks like were both from Metro Manila anyway.
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Samsung generally makes devices which will work, but will break at the drop of a hat. Really depends what you class as build quality, Where as HTC generally makes devices which work (maybe not to the extent of samsung) but are very hard to damage and are easily modded. Really depends on what you want from a device to which suits you more.
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agreed 100%. Thats y i choose sensation. love it. lolz

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