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Quick question for anyone who has looked into this before ...
I know when you get an upgrade and new phone you are increasing your contract by 2 years, and that contract is what essentially gives you a discounted price on the phone... so... I'm wondering... If you were to cancel your contract (paying the $150 fee) would you also be responsible for the difference in retail price on the phone??? Or is the $150 cancellation fee the ONLY charge???
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Zenoran said:
Quick question for anyone who has looked into this before ...
I know when you get an upgrade and new phone you are increasing your contract by 2 years, and that contract is what essentially gives you a discounted price on the phone... so... I'm wondering... If you were to cancel your contract (paying the $150 fee) would you also be responsible for the difference in retail price on the phone??? Or is the $150 cancellation fee the ONLY charge???
jw
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I have been through this with Sprint and AT&T/Cingular and the cancellation fee with them is all you pay. I have never used Verizon and probably never will.
I'm just wondering my options for down the road... not too happy with Verizon.. service does work in my home city but if I try going outside or visit my hometown I can never get any signal.
will have to see who releases the newest badass pda device.. usually sprint wins the race for some reason... att & verizon still haven't even gotten the touch yet! I'm not too concerned with ATT cuz they're clearly sleeping with apple but verizon really needs to get off their asses and come up with something innovative to capture our geeky attention... IT'S NOT IN THE NETWORK.
AT&T by far have the best coverage for HSDPA in Ohio and around the USA except for the west coast for some reason. The best devices are not at the carrier's stores. Check out some options at www.onthegosolutions.com
phones on that website are NOT cheap!...
$150 cancellation fee ? You have nice contracts in the U.S. ! Here, to resign we must pay the fee for every month remaining in our mobile contract, which would amount to something like €500 ($800) for me...
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$150 cancellation fee ? You have nice contracts in the U.S. ! Here, to resign we must pay the fee for every month remaining in our mobile contract, which would amount to something like €500 ($800) for me...
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ouch! Well, that's why I was wondering if you have to pay for the phone or not too??? reason being.. I paid $100 for my Titan from Verizon with all the discounts and such.. I'm sure that would turn around and sell on ebay for 250+??? that's easily cost of my phone + cancellation fee... could easily jump ship to another carrier for a new model with little or no cost... that is, however, if they dont charge you for the phone in addition to contract cancellation.
buying phones retail seems silly though... i surely cant afford $600+ for a phone... eek!
and paid 200 bucks.. think there is any way i can get att to give me a better deal since i can get it for free at walmart???
From what I read, the only way you can get it for free is if you sign up for an AT&T account that is way higher than standard.
I could be wrong though.
I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
Thanks
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I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
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That's what I paid at BB in SoCal
Why would you pay tax on the full price of the phone? I was only taxed for the $200 price. I live in Arizona though, different taxing methods in CA?
That's how Apple does it too. They tax the highest price.
i was only charged tax on the actual purchase price of $199.99 in socal... but then again, this was a manager override because the stores were having issues with the actual pricing when the barcode was scanned...
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Why would you pay tax on the full price of the phone? I was only taxed for the $200 price. I live in Arizona though, different taxing methods in CA?
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Yes i was told it varies in different states. I was told tht if i wanted to buy an iphone the cost wudve been ($199 + $55 tax) for a 16GB phone.
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i was only charged tax on the actual purchase price of $199.99 in socal... but then again, this was a manager override because the stores were having issues with the actual pricing when the barcode was scanned...
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The sales rep who processed my phone told me tht many times ppl aren't charged the tax while buying the phone but it reflects in the first bill and then they hav customers coming in and demanding explanations from them.
So better watch out for this in the first bill
carporsche said:
I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
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Same here bro. I paid 143 for it after my 100 discount with an upgrade. The phone was 99.99 and taxes were the rest of the cost which are from the original 499 price.
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Same here bro. I paid 143 for it after my 100 discount with an upgrade. The phone was 99.99 and taxes were the rest of the cost which are from the original 499 price.
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I think you need to change ur signature now.. change status to "Obtained..."
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I just ordered it from Walmart as an upgrade on my plan.
They told me it has to be the primary phone if it's a family plan. The secondary lines aren't eligible for the free price. I had the old 550 minutes plan, which I had to change up to 700 minutes. After my discount thru work, it was $8 more than I pay now. Other than that, they told me I just have to maintain that plan for 6 months to avoid charged from them, and I'll get the phone for free.
I guess it could come back from AT&T as a "NO" when they check with them, but I checked 6 ways from Sunday with them and they said I was eligible for any upgrade.
Im in CA too, the tax is just crazy
but one way around it is to get your phone off amazon wireless, which doesnt have tax for CA (yet)
technically your supposed to report that in your taxes but no one does
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Yes you are right!!
I just ordered mine for $125 + $10tax . My contract expired abt an year ago and I never renewed it. When I called them regarding moving to T-Mobile (for Vibrant) they offered me $75 off + 100 extra minutes every month(I currently have 450 min). I am damn excited to get my first Androiiiiiid
The only way, I thing, would be to go back to AT&T and use your 30 day money back (except $30 for restocking) and the buy your phone at walmart
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The only way, I thing, would be to go back to AT&T and use your 30 day money back (except $30 for restocking) and the buy your phone at walmart
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exactly what i did.. the guy at the att store told me to call and complain about he 30 restocking fee and they'll credit my account.. free phone will be here thursday!
If you buy it through Amazon wireless, you pay no tax in CA.
You could try bringing in a printout of the deal but as its been pointed out there are a lot of stipulations to get the fee price and you are agreeing that if you change your account they can charge you thee full retail price of the phone.
Ps I work for att
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Hi Guys,
I've been trying to get a phone for development for around 250ish but havn't been successful. Well, it seems my chance might be comming up since T-Mobile is having a Free Smart Phone sale this weekend.
My plan is to go buy the phone, use it for 16 days and cancel my contract. If everything's done fair, it should cost $200 + 16 days of service + any taxes/activation fees.
So I have a few questions.
1) Has anyone done this before? Where there any suprises?
2) Is WP7 functional with Wifi? (i.e. marketplace, games, internet, etc).
3) Think I'll still be able to get updates or what not?
4) Anything else I should be looking for?
Thanks!
A bill from t-mobile for full price of the phone.
I don't get it, you want to develop for 16 days?
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A bill from t-mobile for full price of the phone.
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From experience?
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I don't get it, you want to develop for 16 days?
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Umm, no, T-Mobile requires you return hardware when you cancel your contract within 15 days. But they don't charge a fee.
If you keep the phone, that whole special goes out the window. Read the contract. They will charge you full price.
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Umm, no, T-Mobile requires you return hardware when you cancel your contract within 15 days. But they don't charge a fee.
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don't they charge an ETF when you sign a contract and cancel it after 16 days?
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don't they charge an ETF when you sign a contract and cancel it after 16 days?
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No, they don't charge an etf if you cancel and return everything before the 15th day.
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No, they don't charge an etf if you cancel and return everything before the 15th day.
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ok now im confused...
you want to get a phone on a discount with a contract, then return it for a refund? I don't get what you're trying to do here.
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ok now im confused...
you want to get a phone on a discount with a contract, then return it for a refund? I don't get what you're trying to do here.
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looks like the op is trying to get the phone for just the subsidized price... then kill contract, and not owe tmo money. good luck, not going to happen. they'll bill for the difference.
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ok now im confused...
you want to get a phone on a discount with a contract, then return it for a refund? I don't get what you're trying to do here.
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No... I'm trying to get a WP7 phone to develop with. But I don't have the 600 bucks to buy if "off contract".
So, if I enter a contract, get the phone discounted for FREE this weekend, then "Terminate" the contract a month later, I have to pay the $200 ETF + the month bill + taxes which would be significantly less than the 600 bucks off contract.
Once I terminate the contract, I have no obligation on returning the device, I was asking to see what the outcome would be. T-Mobile online rep blantly said, I'd be responsible for the ETF + Monthly Fee + Taxes, but god knows if they are right, I wanted to see if anyone else tried this.
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No... I'm trying to get a WP7 phone to develop with. But I don't have the 600 bucks to buy if "off contract".
So, if I enter a contract, get the phone discounted for FREE this weekend, then "Terminate" the contract a month later, I have to pay the $200 ETF + the month bill + taxes which would be significantly less than the 600 bucks off contract.
Once I terminate the contract, I have no obligation on returning the device, I was asking to see what the outcome would be. T-Mobile online rep blantly said, I'd be responsible for the ETF + Monthly Fee + Taxes, but god knows if they are right, I wanted to see if anyone else tried this.
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I see, let's take a look though.
$200 ETF
$80 monthly fee (cheapest monthly price you can get on WP7 with tmobile)
$35 activation fee
$35 (approx.) taxes and fees
$350 total for the phone.
not sure where you live but here you could get it for something like this:
http://houston.craigslist.org/mob/2205022524.html
or
http://houston.craigslist.org/mob/2202253067.html
of course there are people asking fro $400 but I can guarantee they will not get near that money for this phone.
If you really want to try what you're talking about then go for it, it seems like it would work, but:
1) they may have a stipulation where you cannot cancel your contract for X months due to the "free" phone or you owe the difference, I'd check the fine print on that one.
2) seems like too much work and drama.
retail for an HD7 on tmobile is $500,
This is why Verizon & att (real carriers in the usa) have $350+ ETFs.
watch for mail in rebate that will void if your contract is expired before xx days
orangekid pointed out the actual higher cost though. You might want to check ATT price for a Focus off-contract i've heard can be had for $399 but ymmv. better phone and more coverage if you ever needed to use it as a phone later.
The phone will be fully functional (on wifi) but sim locked to the carrier.
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This is why Verizon & att (real carriers in the usa) have $350+ ETFs.
watch for mail in rebate that will void if your contract is expired before xx days
orangekid pointed out the actual higher cost though. You might want to check ATT price for a Focus off-contract i've heard can be had for $399 but ymmv. better phone and more coverage if you ever needed to use it as a phone later.
The phone will be fully functional (on wifi) but sim locked to the carrier.
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I don't know what you mean by "real carrier" @ att, since in my city they drop more calls than tmobile ever does even though they probably have more subscribers. ATT's monthly rates (as verizon's) are insanely high too, and they have tiered data, whereas tmobile does not.
off contract they usually give you the sim unlock code, but on contract they generally don't from my experience.
Ugh 2 pages and no answer. The answer to your question is this.
1. You don't need an actual phone to develop apps. The development tool package comes with a simulator.
2. You cannot install apps you are developing on the phone without having it being flagged for development. This process costs 99$ a year and requires you send some identification data to the company that verifies your identity.
So buying a phone for 16 days is pointless. Even if you had the phone you couldn't put any apps on it without paying Microsoft 99$. Personally I would use the simulator to learn how to develop an app, develop one and then buy the phone when you're ready to release. The advantage here is obviously newer better phones in the future compared to right now.
hope that helps
very good points, I figured since OP is trying to scratch, claw, gamble, and steal his way to get the phone, he was just going to use Chevron on it instead of dropping $99 on the fee.
I can't find this now for some reason ... but FWIW I called my VZ corporate store today and they had "no information" on price yet ... yet BB knows it's $250, why is this?
I'm assuming it's going to be 249 @ vzw as well as BB? Or do you think VZ is going to hit us w/299 and expect us to do a 50 rebate?
I'm going to get the TBolt and if I end up not liking it I'll just sell it after the DInc 2 comes out I'm scared to get a larger phone, I love the size of my Eris .... and we all know SIZE MATTERS
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$250 from Verizon on a 2 year contract, confirmed by V today in a tweet...
This is not the same question as the poster, but it kind of falls under the topic. I was going to order by calling verizon and having them send me the phone(can't get a certain monthly discount on wirefly(so the customer service person tells me)) and they offered to waive the activation fee. But I found a midnight launch here locally and was wondering if those employee's have the ability to waive the activation fee as well? I would try and entice them with buying the same amount in accessories of course.
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This is not the same question as the poster, but it kind of falls under the topic. I was going to order by calling verizon and having them send me the phone(can't get a certain monthly discount on wirefly(so the customer service person tells me)) and they offered to waive the activation fee. But I found a midnight launch here locally and was wondering if those employee's have the ability to waive the activation fee as well? I would try and entice them with buying the same amount in accessories of course.
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Verizon retail employees can waive alot of things and give additional discounts. Just say that you really want this phone, but the price is too much. They would want you to be a loyal customer and have you pay $20 less than just walk out.
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This is not the same question as the poster, but it kind of falls under the topic. I was going to order by calling verizon and having them send me the phone(can't get a certain monthly discount on wirefly(so the customer service person tells me)) and they offered to waive the activation fee. But I found a midnight launch here locally and was wondering if those employee's have the ability to waive the activation fee as well? I would try and entice them with buying the same amount in accessories of course.
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I wish you the best w/the waiving of the fee .... I recently added a line and they charged the $35, it took a call and then a request to talk to a supervisor .... and many minutes on hold before she came back and told me that, as a one time courtesy they would waive it. They also wanted me to "be sure to understand" that going forward all extra lines would have a fee.
I had to laugh when I hung up 'cuz the CS rep assured me in the first place that I would NOT be able to get the fee waived, even after I asked to speak to a supervisor ... moohoowahhahahahaha, I win! And the fact that she was all *****y about it and I got it waived made it even sweeter!
yay me. From what I understand the store people will tell you they don't have the authority to waive it .... let us know what you find out.
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$250 from Verizon on a 2 year contract, confirmed by V today in a tweet...
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Thank you!
I just ordered from Wirefly.com for 199.99, no rebate required. If you don't mind waiting for FedEx that's the lowest price around right now.
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Verizon is 249.99 plus a 25$ activation fee at their stores. Just checked at store
Just found it on AmazonWireless
Phone 1: HTC ThunderBolt 4G Android Phone (Verizon Wireless)$ 749.99List Price: Remove $ 179.99Price:
In Stock. Usually ships in 24 hours
http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-ThunderBolt-Android-Verizon-Wireless/dp/B004M5HB6U/ref=sh_br_ph_1
wirefly is still cheaper. 199-25 for the fatwallet cashback. 175 total
plus using the coupon code you get a free 4gb card
I am eligable for an early upgrade but I think it will only work through Verizons website. Wirefly said I am not eligable and Amazon keeps reporting a problem with my info.
This sucks.
An interesting note: I called verizon to ask why i couldn't upgrade though a third party website and they said I just can't. I asked what their price will be and the lady said she didn't know the price but she sees that there will $100 rebate on it.
AT&T Premier Account and 3rd Party Retailers (RadioShack). Activation waive possible?
I preordered the HTC One X Sunday morning from Radio Shack (regretted it once I heard Amazon had it for the same price, tax free). Anyhow, a few days later I found out I qualify for an AT&T Premier Account as a student.
My question is, can Radio Shack (or any 3rd party retailer) waive my activation fee like AT&T does since I'm a qualified Premier account? I'd rather not pay those $36 for locking myself in a 2-year contract.
Just call at&t when it shows up on your bill and ask them if they can waive it for you
I'm not sure how much truth there is in this, mostly because I just don't trust the dude at Radio Shack, however, I, too, pre ordered from Radio Shack before the Amazon announcement, and I have a premier account, and what I was told by the manager at Radio Shack was that they don't "charge" the activation fee. AT&T does. If you owe an activation fee, it is assessed by the carrier, and charged by the carrier after the sale of the handset. I don't believe this, mostly because everyone at Radio Shack has told me something that doesn't make sense, illustrating their lack of knowledge about the inner workings of the cellphone industry. I'm hoping that at the time of activation the information shown in the AT&T system will be that I don't owe the fee, and one will not be charged, but there is no way to know until it happens. Might possibly ask AT&T directly what their protocol is for activation through 3rd parties is, maybe they can put a note on the account to waive the fee. Not really sure.
Sorry if this isn't that helpful.
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I'm not sure how much truth there is in this, mostly because I just don't trust the dude at Radio Shack, however, I, too, pre ordered from Radio Shack before the Amazon announcement, and I have a premier account, and what I was told by the manager at Radio Shack was that they don't "charge" the activation fee. AT&T does. If you owe an activation fee, it is assessed by the carrier, and charged by the carrier after the sale of the handset. I don't believe this, mostly because everyone at Radio Shack has told me something that doesn't make sense, illustrating their lack of knowledge about the inner workings of the cellphone industry. I'm hoping that at the time of activation the information shown in the AT&T system will be that I don't owe the fee, and one will not be charged, but there is no way to know until it happens. Might possibly ask AT&T directly what their protocol is for activation through 3rd parties is, maybe they can put a note on the account to waive the fee. Not really sure.
Sorry if this isn't that helpful.
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He was right, the activation fee is charged by the carrier, thats why I suggested calling your carrier when it shows up on your bill, because I just found out that not all premier members get activation fees waived, you basically have to call and see if your company or whomever has that included in the benefits, but being a loyal customer helps as well.
Hmm, I'm on Premier account and I never get activation fee wavied by AT&T. In fact, AT&T charges $36 fee for Premier account a year earlier than they did for regular consumer account.
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Hmm, I'm on Premier account and I never get activation fee wavied by AT&T. In fact, AT&T charges $36 fee for Premier account a year earlier than they did for regular consumer account.
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Same here..maybe I'm not asking nice enough
In fact, other than the service discount (I got 23% discount on everything), everything on Premier is more expensive than regular account. All the promotions like rebates and routine $100 off for new customers never apply to Premier accounts.
BTW, the activation fee is charged to your account, not paid at point of sale. So unless they give you $36 credit for your account, you will be automatically charged $36 by AT&T on your first bill.
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I too have a premier account.
All you have to do is call in to ATT and tell them you were never made aware that there would be an 'Upgrade Activation Fee' and they waive it 90% of the time.
I literally just did this yesterday and they waived the $36 fee.
The convo went something like this:
Me: Hi I noticed that there was a $36 fee on my account. I wasn't aware that I would be charged for upgrading me phone!
ATT Rep: The sales person didn't tell you about the fee?
Me: No, I wasn't aware of this at all.
ATT Rep: We aren't supposed to waive the fees anymore since we started to charge everyone but I'll waive it just this once.
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I too have a premier account.
All you have to do is call in to ATT and tell them you were never made aware that there would be an 'Upgrade Activation Fee' and they waive it 90% of the time.
I literally just did this yesterday and they waived the $36 fee.
The convo went something like this:
Me: Hi I noticed that there was a $36 fee on my account. I wasn't aware that I would be charged for upgrading me phone!
ATT Rep: The sales person didn't tell you about the fee?
Me: No, I wasn't aware of this at all.
ATT Rep: We aren't supposed to waive the fees anymore since we started to charge everyone but I'll waive it just this once.
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This is just about right.
I've NEVER paid an activation fee or upgrade fee since I had my first contract phone in 05/06.
I bought the HOX from a physical AT&T store and did not get charged the upgrade fee. 2 years ago I bought from Amazon and also did not get charged the fee. 4 years ago was from walmart and didn't pay it then either. So unless they've changed anything you shouldn't have to pay it even from 3rd parties. Not all premier accounts are the same though...I get 30% off service and other stuff which is my biggest reason for not jumping carriers in 8 years.
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I bought the HOX from a physical AT&T store and did not get charged the upgrade fee. 2 years ago I bought from Amazon and also did not get charged the fee. 4 years ago was from walmart and didn't pay it then either. So unless they've changed anything you shouldn't have to pay it even from 3rd parties. Not all premier accounts are the same though...I get 30% off service and other stuff which is my biggest reason for not jumping carriers in 8 years.
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30%...damn! I only get 10%
I just checked w/ my school and I realize that I can get 18% off. However, I already preordered. Is there anyway I can apply for the premier discounts retroactively or do I have to cancel my pre-order and go do it in the store personally?
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I just checked w/ my school and I realize that I can get 18% off. However, I already preordered. Is there anyway I can apply for the premier discounts retroactively or do I have to cancel my pre-order and go do it in the store personally?
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I believe discounts are only on the cell plans not the phones. at least that's how mine works
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i got $25 credit on the phone when i preordered lol..
Totally depends what organization you are working for or assoicated with. My plan is 20% off plans, no activation fees either.. 40 bucks for 5 gb data/tether!
You can call premiere and ask them to add it to your order or att if your wondering..
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I believe discounts are only on the cell plans not the phones. at least that's how mine works
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I know that. My question is that since my current phone is NOT on the corporate plan, and it seems that to transition to start the corporate plan requires a fresh 2 year contract, it appears I will have to start a new premier account contract at the same time I get a phone.
At Amazon I can only upgrade my phone w/o the ability to modify my AT&T plan. However, once I upgrade my phone, I will be on a new 2 year contract and thus not be eligible to switch to a Premier Account for the next 2 years?
Is that true? I am thinking about cancelling my pre-order from Amazon Wireless and just going to an AT&T corporate store.
I was planning on going into the AT&T store, since I have a Premier account, so I could get the activation waived. However, I guess after reading this I might just get the activation fee waived afterwards.
My only question now is that with a Premier account, will I have any problems doing an upgrade with Amazon? I talked to Amazon customer support about two years ago (when I last upgrade my phone) and they said that Premier accounts could not upgrade through them. Is this true? Anyone have any experience with this? Because I sure would like to pay $150 with no tax rather than $199 plus tax at the AT&T store.
I also am premier account but on top of 24% off plans I also get 30% off accessories and 40% off msrp of any phone and activation fees waived I guess there are differences in premier accounts
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I also am premier account but on top of 24% off plans I also get 30% off accessories and 40% off msrp of any phone and activation fees waived I guess there are differences in premier accounts
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Dying Atrix? My Atrix is smooth as butter and is just an all around amazing phone. If only we can get full ICS support that'd be even better.
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Dying Atrix? My Atrix is smooth as butter and is just an all around amazing phone. If only we can get full ICS support that'd be even better.
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Check out one of my recent posts and you will see why it's dying
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Thanks for all the inputs. So, to confirm:
Radio Shack should NOT charge me an activation fee when I go in and buy my HTC One X. The Activation fee is incurred in the monthly bill. Is this correct?
If that's the case, I feel like I have a chance at getting it waived via AT&T. I know Radio Shack would fight this to the death, so I hope they don't have anything to do with this fee.