Well usually I never post anything, but I have a 6800 that I got way back in July and I've herd many different ways to connect to the internet on your PDA phone, like using Dial-Up internet, however my service provider is "Bell Mobility" and well, I hate them with a pure passion, however I have no other choice at the moment. But onto the question, I am trying to find another way to connect to the internet when I am traveling either than using Data. (Expensive!?) Now, if I were to go out and buy a 50$ cheap phone, I can get browser etc. for 7$, I just don't understand. Can someone this up for me, because when I phone Bell, well, they just tell me No! all the time. (Oh, and thanks for all the great programs etc. )
with wifi then you can connect to the internet and if you have dial up internet service then just get the number that the computer dials and the user name and password. then just add a new internet connection on the settings. but using dial up you will be using minutes and it will be slow but usable
Ok, I have signed up with 2 different dial-up providers and tried using my 10 hours of free dial-up through my isp, and I continue to get an error, I am quite frustrated and I'm not too sure if I'm doing something wrong. But thanks for the reply.
Hi All,
I posted a similar question before without too much response. So bear with me as I repost it here in this forum as you guys seems most knowledgeable.
In where I live, GPRS data cost an arm and a leg. They charge you something stupid like 10 dollars for 12 megs, WITHOUT the option of purchasing an unlimited plan. What I'm trying to find out is is it possible for our Kaisers to act as an analog modem so I can tether it to my laptop and dial-up to a local ISP? Sure the speed would be terrible, but at least I'll get connectivity without incurring tons of data charges.
Any insights would be greatly appreciated
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What I'm trying to find out is is it possible for our Kaisers to act as an analog modem so I can tether it to my laptop and dial-up to a local ISP? Sure the speed would be terrible, but at least I'll get connectivity without incurring tons of data charges.
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It would really suck if you're moving such as on a train or such because this kinda of data doesn't handle tower swapping.
It should be possible, depending on your phone provider. I know at&t used to allow it, but it's unavailable with any new plan now, for instance.
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It would really suck if you're moving such as on a train or such because this kinda of data doesn't handle tower swapping.
It should be possible, depending on your phone provider. I know at&t used to allow it, but it's unavailable with any new plan now, for instance.
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Hm... interesting. Technically my phone provider can "dis-allow" their customers from dialing into an ISP using a voice call, but in reality can they really prevent you from doing so? I mean from their end its just any voice call right?
But I digress. Does anyone know how I can set up something like this in WM6? I tried doing the following :
1. Create a new Connection
2. Select "Cellular Line" as my modem type
3. Enter the phone number of my ISP
4. Connect using this new connection
But it fails, saying that it got a problem establishing the connection. At first I thought it was failing to establish carrier with the ISP, but later I found out that it doesn't even dial out but changing the number to my home phone number.
Any ideas would be appreciated.. thanks!!
Actually, there is a circuit you can build, for the electronically inclined, that will connect the headphone/mic ports on the kaiser to the 2wire hole on your laptop, enabling you to use your minutes to DIAL aol or msn or whatever.
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Actually, there is a circuit you can build, for the electronically inclined, that will connect the headphone/mic ports on the kaiser to the 2wire hole on your laptop, enabling you to use your minutes to DIAL aol or msn or whatever.
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Would that be akin to using a mini usb to rj11 adapter? That would certainly be doable! However, I would imagine some drivers needs to be installed. Say, for the WM6 device to act as a modem and for windows to detect it as a modem.
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Hm... interesting. Technically my phone provider can "dis-allow" their customers from dialing into an ISP using a voice call, but in reality can they really prevent you from doing so? I mean from their end its just any voice call right?
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I'm not sure how it's done, but my provider certainly does block it unless one is provisioned.
On my Sony Ericsson t637, I can ISP dialup on one sim that is provisioned on the monthly plan, but on the other cannot dial through. If you hand dial it, you can hear the other side's modem for fax (for example), but if you try tether dial for instance, it doesn't work. Either sim does not contain any network setup information and it's all on the same phone.
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I'm not sure how it's done, but my provider certainly does block it unless one is provisioned.
On my Sony Ericsson t637, I can ISP dialup on one sim that is provisioned on the monthly plan, but on the other cannot dial through. If you hand dial it, you can hear the other side's modem for fax (for example), but if you try tether dial for instance, it doesn't work. Either sim does not contain any network setup information and it's all on the same phone.
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That's very interesting.... the fact that if you hand dial you hear the other side's modem but if you let WM6 dial through one of its connection setups you won't be able to connect.
This leads me to think it might be a software limitation. Any other thoughts?
I want to do this too and have the same issue of it not dialing. But if I hand-dial the number it connects (well, I hear the modem sound). Would it be possible to setup windows to work off those sounds? So instead of dialing, it will just send authentication information. Or dial without dial tone, then you hand-dial it on the cell, and route the "audio" to the modem?
It worked for me
Hi everyone
I use T-mobile in USA, I have the myFaves plan, it allows me to call 5 numbers of my choice for free. One of these numbers is a Dial-up number that I use to dial out and connect to the internet. However it takes about 20-30 attempts before I make a connection (or sometimes it connects in just 2 attempts).
The point is, I've done it and it actually works. All you need to do is go in 'Connections' and add a new connection. Select 'Cellular Line' and specify the phone number you wish to dial.
I would love to use this method of connection since its free, but the time it takes to connect is very frustrating. I came here looking for some free software that would allow the voice call to be easily recognized as a data call so that I can continue using this facility.
I called T-mobile a while back and asked as to why it was so inconsistent, the cusomer representative replied saying 'You are getting away with it, it's not supposed to happen'. He said that they needed to enable CSD for my line for it to actually work. I had the CSD inactive according to him. I argued that I used voice dialing and not CSD, he didn't agree with me.
Lets keep this thread active and search for a solution, let me know what you guys think.
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Hi everyone
I use T-mobile in USA, I have the myFaves plan, it allows me to call 5 numbers of my choice for free. One of these numbers is a Dial-up number that I use to dial out and connect to the internet. However it takes about 20-30 attempts before I make a connection (or sometimes it connects in just 2 attempts).
The point is, I've done it and it actually works. All you need to do is go in 'Connections' and add a new connection. Select 'Cellular Line' and specify the phone number you wish to dial.
I would love to use this method of connection since its free, but the time it takes to connect is very frustrating. I came here looking for some free software that would allow the voice call to be easily recognized as a data call so that I can continue using this facility.
I called T-mobile a while back and asked as to why it was so inconsistent, the cusomer representative replied saying 'You are getting away with it, it's not supposed to happen'. He said that they needed to enable CSD for my line for it to actually work. I had the CSD inactive according to him. I argued that I used voice dialing and not CSD, he didn't agree with me.
Lets keep this thread active and search for a solution, let me know what you guys think.
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That's very interesting! I have followed your steps exactly as above, however I can verify that mine doesn't actually dial out. Have you tried substituting your dialup number with your home phone number? That way you can verify at which stage the failure happens. For example, if your home phone rings, then we can conclude that you've managed to make WM6 dial out (which is further than what I've got), which most likely means it fails at the connecting stage.
That fact that I couldn't even get WM6 to dial out makes me think its a software issue more than a network limitation.
I think there's a problem with the Analogue CSD Modem on the TyTN II.
I've been trying to get mToken (http://www.choung.net/mToken/) to work as a simple VT100 async modem connection over the GSM cellular modem and have had no success. Works fine on my other WM5 device (XDA Orbit) using the same SIM card.
As another test I tried getting my ISP connection working over the dial-up Cellular Line (GSM) using start->settings->connections->connections and using then 'cellular line' option under modem selection. Again no success on the TyTN IIl. Again this works perfectly on my other XDA Orbit device.
I have a case open with HTC UK who are still investigating the analogue modem problem on this device.
There's another thread relating to this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357234
I've managed to call my home phone using the "Cellular Line" option when creating new connection. I'm using Q-Mobile 1.2 ROM with radio 1.27.12.32...
svilendotorg said:
I've managed to call my home phone using the "Cellular Line" option when creating new connection. I'm using Q-Mobile 1.2 ROM with radio 1.27.12.32...
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I can also dial out to any analogue phone no problem using the 'cellular line' modem. The trouble is the HTC's modem is not able to establish a connection if you have an analogue data modem at the other end - it just hangs indefinitely.
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I can also dial out to any analogue phone no problem using the 'cellular line' modem. The trouble is the HTC's modem is not able to establish a connection if you have an analogue data modem at the other end - it just hangs indefinitely.
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Interesting... the problem of not being able to dial out seems more and more like a software problem. In particular, it looks tied to the Radio ROM since I'm on the 1.27.12.17
I'll try some other Radio's and report back the results. zoggo, if you don't mind, please tell us what version of radio are you using. Wouldn't hurt to let us know which rom you're running as well.
Thanks
explorer82 said:
Hi everyone
I use T-mobile in USA, I have the myFaves plan, it allows me to call 5 numbers of my choice for free. One of these numbers is a Dial-up number that I use to dial out and connect to the internet. However it takes about 20-30 attempts before I make a connection (or sometimes it connects in just 2 attempts).
The point is, I've done it and it actually works. All you need to do is go in 'Connections' and add a new connection. Select 'Cellular Line' and specify the phone number you wish to dial.
I would love to use this method of connection since its free, but the time it takes to connect is very frustrating. I came here looking for some free software that would allow the voice call to be easily recognized as a data call so that I can continue using this facility.
I called T-mobile a while back and asked as to why it was so inconsistent, the cusomer representative replied saying 'You are getting away with it, it's not supposed to happen'. He said that they needed to enable CSD for my line for it to actually work. I had the CSD inactive according to him. I argued that I used voice dialing and not CSD, he didn't agree with me.
Lets keep this thread active and search for a solution, let me know what you guys think.
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Interesting, I wonder if my provider will charge me data for this
The topic becomes more and more interesting;
now i have an idea - to connect an old gsm phone to my linux server and configure it as a dial-in server/gateway, with free data plan between my Kaiser's SIM card and my server's one... This way i will have 500 free minutes of internet every month
The problem is...i don't know how to do it ...yet
12.32 is no good
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Interesting... the problem of not being able to dial out seems more and more like a software problem. In particular, it looks tied to the Radio ROM since I'm on the 1.27.12.17
I'll try some other Radio's and report back the results. zoggo, if you don't mind, please tell us what version of radio are you using. Wouldn't hurt to let us know which rom you're running as well.
Thanks
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I have just tried the 12.32 radio and I'm still not able to dial out. Just to clarify, I couldn't even get the connection to dial out.
So this means something other than the radio rom is allowing zoggo and svilendotorg's kaiser to dial out to an analog number from a connection. If you dont mind zoggo, can you tell us what ROM you're running on? I myself am running on dutty's v3 final.
Thanks
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I have just tried the 12.32 radio and I'm still not able to dial out. Just to clarify, I couldn't even get the connection to dial out.
So this means something other than the radio rom is allowing zoggo and svilendotorg's kaiser to dial out to an analog number from a connection. If you dont mind zoggo, can you tell us what ROM you're running on? I myself am running on dutty's v3 final.
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I'm running the original versions supplied with my Kaiser:
ROM version 1.56.405.5
ROM date: 08/28/07
Radio version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol version:22.45.88.07H
New developments
Thank you all for the feedback, I was on phone with the T-mobile Customer care (level 3 data) today. According to this very knowledgeable person, it is 'supposed' to work and we are 'supposed' to connect without any problems.
This also goes with the fact that there wont be any data call charges if we use the dial-up connection. However we will be using our voice minutes, depends on your plan.
The representative explained to me that CSD was only used for incoming data calls, like fax etc. and assured me that I did not need CSD for it to work properly (he proved my point). T-mobile offers CSD option for additional fee every month. I also told him that I was able to connect many times before, but the connection was inconsistent (30 attempts etc.).
To shinji1: I used Q-Mobile 1.1 with radio ROM 1.27.12.32 and was able to dial out properly (In fact, I personally think that this is the best radio ROM for this purpose). Currently I use dutty's v3 ROM with the same radio and was able to establish a dial-up connection many times before. You better flash to these ROMs; there is no tweaking involved, just flash and try to connect.
The mToken utility looks very promising. I'll tinker with it later and let you guys know my progress. As zoggo pointed out, this indeed could be yet another HTC software problem (or even the new windows mobile problem), lets hope they solve it.
Finally, I noticed that I am able to establish a connection on some days and failing to do the same on others (no matter how many times I try). So if its not working for you, try connecting again after 2-3 days? Its just a hunch, but its an observation I made.
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Thank you all for the feedback, I was on phone with the T-mobile Customer care (level 3 data) today. According to this very knowledgeable person, it is 'supposed' to work and we are 'supposed' to connect without any problems.
This also goes with the fact that there wont be any data call charges if we use the dial-up connection. However we will be using our voice minutes, depends on your plan.
The representative explained to me that CSD was only used for incoming data calls, like fax etc. and assured me that I did not need CSD for it to work properly (he proved my point). T-mobile offers CSD option for additional fee every month. I also told him that I was able to connect many times before, but the connection was inconsistent (30 attempts etc.).
To shinji1: I used Q-Mobile 1.1 with radio ROM 1.27.12.32 and was able to dial out properly (In fact, I personally think that this is the best radio ROM for this purpose). Currently I use dutty's v3 ROM with the same radio and was able to establish a dial-up connection many times before. You better flash to these ROMs; there is no tweaking involved, just flash and try to connect.
The mToken utility looks very promising. I'll tinker with it later and let you guys know my progress. As zoggo pointed out, this indeed could be yet another HTC software problem (or even the new windows mobile problem), lets hope they solve it.
Finally, I noticed that I am able to establish a connection on some days and failing to do the same on others (no matter how many times I try). So if its not working for you, try connecting again after 2-3 days? Its just a hunch, but its an observation I made.
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Did he explain why it doesn't work consistently?
Hi everyone, I have a HD2 running Windows Phone 7 but I am having problems and I want to check with anyone on Giffgaff if they have the same problems.
I have my phone setup correctly and all the bars have been lifted by Giffgaff, my email works, I can watch Youtube fine and I can surf without fine and I can remote desktop to servers at work.
But the problem I have is I cant use XBox live and I cant download anything from the marketplace (I can browse the marketplace fine) I just get the dots across the top of the screen then after a minute or two it says there is a problem and to try later.
If I connect via WiFi then everything is fine and if I pop in my old Orange sim card and configure accordingly that works also. So I know there is nothing wrong my my Live account or my phone its something to do with Giffgaff.
So does anyone here have a WP7 phone on Giffgaff? does everything work for you?? I have tried on the Giffgaff forums but no luck. You guys are my last hope.
Thanks in advance.
Hi mate,
I have an Omnia 7 with a GiffGaff SIM in the phone and its running fine. Not sure why it wouldn't work on your considering you've got browsing and youtube working.
Anything you need me to check, give us a shout.
Cheers
Jas
Thanks Jazzyuk, did yours work straight off? did you have to configure Giffgaff manually and did you have to get anything changed on your account?
I ask because at first I could not access the marketplace at all and when Giffgaff lifted the adult bar I can browse the marketplace but not purchase anything. XBox live has never worked for me.
Thanks again.
Hi mate,
I didn't have to do anything related to my account. I got the giffgaff sim on Wednesday, put it in my phone, setup the APN details on the phone and it worked from there. Didn't have to do anything else.
Sorry not much help other than that...
Jas
Ok thanks for your help
you have to activate your phone
wp7 licence is bounded to the device. hd2 wp7 emulates hd7. you have to call microsoft to get it activated. live services needs this activation. it does not have anything to do with your sim.
its a port and basically you are using illegal copy of wp7. you need to call microsoft to activate the phone. how to do this? use the search button or just browse the hd2 wp7 forum.
p/s: in my country, calling to activate will not work anymore because they are asking you to bring your phone over - so no dice there.
I have activated with Microsoft (twice I did not keep the code first time) and as mentioned via WiFi or Orange everything is fine and tried with different roms which is why I was looking at my operator as I have eliminated practically everything else.
But thanks anyway
Just in case anyone else is following this thread, I flashed one of the new NoDo HD2 roms and everything works
Thanks for everyone who helped.
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Hi everyone, I have a HD2 running Windows Phone 7 but I am having problems and I want to check with anyone on Giffgaff if they have the same problems.
I have my phone setup correctly and all the bars have been lifted by Giffgaff, my email works, I can watch Youtube fine and I can surf without fine and I can remote desktop to servers at work.
But the problem I have is I cant use XBox live and I cant download anything from the marketplace (I can browse the marketplace fine) I just get the dots across the top of the screen then after a minute or two it says there is a problem and to try later.
If I connect via WiFi then everything is fine and if I pop in my old Orange sim card and configure accordingly that works also. So I know there is nothing wrong my my Live account or my phone its something to do with Giffgaff.
So does anyone here have a WP7 phone on Giffgaff? does everything work for you?? I have tried on the Giffgaff forums but no luck. You guys are my last hope.
Thanks in advance.
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Exactly the same issue with HTC Titan.
Mine is Windows 7.5 7740/7720 the recent update that we had yesterday.
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Here I found the solution: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-gb/howto/wp7/apps/download-apps-and-games-faq.aspx
I hope it will help future WP7.5 users and giffgaffers!
Add the apn settings manually, that worked for me
Copied from the GiffGaff pages...
Connection Name: giffgaff - GPRS
APN - Access Point Name: giffgaff.com
Proxy Server Address: 193.113.200.195
Proxy Port:8080
Login - Username: giffgaff
Password: password
MCC: 234
MNC: 10
Open settings, mobile network then add apn and fill in what you can, also make sure the adult bar has been removed from your account.
Same problem here, new to GiffGaff and can't download any apps. Can browse to them but just hangs installing.
Only thing I haven't done yet is remove the adult bar as the web page doesn't appear to be working.
What is ''Giffgaff'' ?
Giffgaff is a new mobile operator in the UK (check my sig)
Get the adult bar removed and make sure you have the apn settings correct
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What is ''Giffgaff'' ?
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GiffGaff is one of the UK's newest and best sounding PAYG network around. However, it isn't worth anyones time or money. The service is constantly messing up, I have had several weekends over the 9 months with them were I couldn't call in or out and couldn't send receive text messages, I get text messages coming through at random hours, literally days after they were sent. My girlfriend is on it too, we once tried to make a call from my phone to hers in the same room and it kept going to her answer phone. '3' offer essentially the same thing as their £10 deal for £15, and I was more than happy to fork over an extra £5 a month for a network that worked properly.
GiffGaff is good for kids, but for an adult who uses it as a business number also? Not in the slightest. Their customer service consists of a forum (one of the reasons they can be cheaper) where people spam you with the same reply and tell you that you are wrong because theirs is working fine ¬¬ it was one massive nightmare. I'd strongly suggest everyone stays away from their crap.
Not wanting to take away from Siksik6 problem but here's my twopece worth.
Ive been on Orange, Vodaphone, O2 and Virgin mobile and out of all of them Giffgaff has worked the best.
I had no connectivity one weekend in November last year but that transpired to be an O2 issue and it was just data only. Calls and txt were fine and the few times I have used the forums for help I have always got help from other members.
I personally would recommend Giffgaff to anyone
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Not wanting to take away from Siksik6 problem but here's my twopece worth.
Ive been on Orange, Vodaphone, O2 and Virgin mobile and out of all of them Giffgaff has worked the best.
I had no connectivity one weekend in November last year but that transpired to be an O2 issue and it was just data only. Calls and txt were fine and the few times I have used the forums for help I have always got help from other members.
I personally would recommend Giffgaff to anyone
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This is the problem with the network.
People are so quick to get £5 through a refferal sim (they pay you through paypal to tell other it is a good network and get them to order a sim from your link) that they are willing to pretend it's "better" than any other network. I'd believe you if you said it was a good network, but better? in what ways? the 3G isn't even as fast as O2's!
I seriously suggest everyone go take a long at the mess of a 'customer service' forum there before even considering going there (every single thread is a mess of 20 things saying the same thing, people telling new members they are wrong and that the service isn't bad and is 98% total illiterate gibberish)
You know what a proper mobile networks forum has? Hardly anything because they don't constantly have problems from everything from sign up to complete phone blackouts.
And yes, sorry to steal the thread, but people shouldn't believe it is good. £5 more on any other network for the same deal will seriously do you more good. If you have problems you press a button and sort it out.
Hey all! I've tried googling/searching XDA, but I must have my terms wrong or no one is talking about it.
Question: Is there a way to restrict which mobile networks my phone will connect to?
Device: Google Nexus 5 32gb, Stock Rom/Kernel with Root access
I'm switching to a T-Mobile Simple Choice plan with free 2g data in 100 countries, and going on a cruise shortly after. A couple of the ports of call are on the list, while others are not on the list. It sure would be nice to just leave my phone on and have it only connect to the free networks. I contracted T-Mobile and was pointed to a document letting me know that I will be notified if charges are incurred, but I'd rather not get charged at all. This I could solve manually by carrying the list of countries with me and only turning off airplane when I am there, but that does seem like a pain to me.
The other problem, cruise ships have cell networks onboard now. These networks are charged as international and not included in the Simple Choice deal. Even if I am in port, I am concerned I may still connect to this netowork. I imagine there is an app I could use to at least see which network I am on (I can't find it indicated in Settings anywhere - probably blind), but I would need to prevent my phone from roaming onto that network when both are in range.
I'd really appreciate any thoughts/suggestions. The only thing I can think of is some kind of custom block that would like me restrict network connections. All way over my head.
Thanks again
Matt
You're going to have to manually select them. I'd turn data roaming off until you get some where you know you can turn it on. Also, most port of calls have Wi-Fi and I'd use that where you can. You can often even get it on the ship at a port, although you might have to find the right location on the ship where you can do that.
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You're going to have to manually select them. I'd turn data roaming off until you get some where you know you can turn it on. Also, most port of calls have Wi-Fi and I'd use that where you can. You can often even get it on the ship at a port, although you might have to find the right location on the ship where you can do that.
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Thanks for the tip about Wi-Fi networks. Absolutely. Unfortunately, I'm not even sure how to manually select the network to which my phone connects. Any advice on where/how to select that?
Matt
Settings, Wireless and network, more, mobile networks, network operators