Thunderbolt review - Thunderbolt General

http://androidspin.com/2011/04/23/htc-thunderbolt-from-verizon/
Probably nothing new here, but perhaps some of you will enjoy it anyway.
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Feeling impatient

I've had my phone 2 weeks and run out of things to do to it. Where's the roms? froyo where are you ?
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Well I can't wait for froyo + full file system lag fix
If you're not satisfied with the current rate of development, feel free to put together your own rom or even contribute to current development. The phone is what, two, three months old? Some phones didn't even have root methods for that long. If you wanted an att device that had a background of strong community hacking, should have gone with an htc device. The method of building roms on this phone is massively different and requires time to get everything sorted. And I'm willing to believe a lot of devs are waiting fur for the 2.2 source
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Lighten up francis. Did I complain about Devs? NO. Panties in a wad factor is really high around here.
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Lighten up francis. Did I complain about Devs? NO. Panties in a wad factor is really high around here.
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You're saying you're impatient for new roms, implying you are not satisfied with your current options. There are several people doing fantastic work on our phones and you're belittling their work. Even jokingly.
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Kaik541 said:
You're saying you're impatient for new roms, implying you are not satisfied with your current options. There are several people doing fantastic work on our phones and you're belittling their work. Even jokingly.
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I think you are taking this entire thread the wrong way.
I think the OP is trying to say that he has done all he can, where is something new? More things to play with.
Nowhere did he belittle or offend anyone. Nor was anything implied.
I have had my phone for 7 weeks - I want to see even more new ROMs -but in no way am I saying anything about anyone. I can't wait for the first Cyanogenmod either - I am impatient, just like I was when waiting for the Captivate launch day.
+10 on the "lighten up Francis"
Looks to me like you are a good candidate to get in the kitchen and start cooking. That way you don't have to wait around for the roms and we can all play.
I don't think it's a matter of lightening up, I agree the op surely said "where are the roms?" That could have ben interpreted more than one way, which it was. Coming from the op of the forum nazi thread, sounds like you have plenty of time to start cooking and stop whining
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I've had my phone 2 weeks and run out of things to do to it. Where's the roms? froyo where are you ?
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alphadog00 said:
I think you are taking this entire thread the wrong way.
I think the OP is trying to say that he has done all he can, where is something new? More things to play with.
Nowhere did he belittle or offend anyone. Nor was anything implied.
I have had my phone for 7 weeks - I want to see even more new ROMs -but in no way am I saying anything about anyone. I can't wait for the first Cyanogenmod either - I am impatient, just like I was when waiting for the Captivate launch day.
+10 on the "lighten up Francis"
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Thanks.
Make a lighthearted post and get your throat jumped down. I thought Dealdatabase.com was elitist. This place is much worse it seems.
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Thanks.
Make a lighthearted post and get your throat jumped down. I thought Dealdatabase.com was elitist. This place is much worse it seems.
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Hey gunny, I know how you feel. I too am a bit bored. The rom development is great so far but that's starting to reach it's limit with what devs can do while we wait for froyo. I would love something new to play with. Maybe flash or some awesome game to come along that really pushes this device. Gps fix from sammysung would be nice. I could drive around using that to kill some boredom.
Anyway, props to the devs. Thank god we have some good ones. I would have been bored weeks ago without and with a laggy phone on top of that.
I understand both sides but unfortunately unless you know how to dev we all must be patient. These guys have done very good work and so far it is right on par with the Vibrant, and we all know T-mobile has many more dev's to work on ROMS. With more time will come better products, and all Galaxy S phones will be waiting for a while for 2.2. If Cyanogen comes out soon it shouldn't be hard for Eugene or someone to make a port of it, even if Eugene does not own a Captivate.
There's no need to fight guys, in all seriousness we have the best touch-screen phone on the whole market!
Gorgeous screen, specs, and soon to be a great international community of devs with the whole family of galaxy s line sharing ideas and accelerating the growth of development at a great pace.
Not to mention the soon to be implemented froyo that will not only introduce optimizations and flash, but also allow for a greater use of the phone's potential- spec wise.
Take into consideration the further development after froyo + full lag fix + a COMMUNITY effort of collaboration and I see a really bright future ahead of us.
Personally I LOVE my phone, it does everything I want it to do (I multi-task like a beast!!) BEAUTIFUL camera software.. I painlessly take panoramic shots! What more can you ask for?
Yes some high quality games compared to that of the iphone would be great, but the anti-piracy measures are not on par with the iphone at the moment, so we'll have to wait a little for the big-name app/game developers to step in.
Kaik541 our kyke541 or whatever, u need to chill the f*** out dude. Why do you have to be such a ****? This is the internet!!! If you talked to me like that face to face I'd make you eat your words. Why are you so hostile, do you think your elite because you know a bit about phones? God, this is some peoples hobby for crying out loud. Be easy on them. Every post I've seen from you recently has some attitude with it. I hope your just having a bad week or something... Take a chill pill and calm down. We all have something in common here, you aren't any better than the rest of us.
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This thread sucks.
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This thread sucks.
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+1
I for one am enjoying the calm before the storm. That is, before froyo and CM6.1 are released, and all the subsequent hacking that will go with it.
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Kaik541 our kyke541 or whatever, u need to chill the f*** out dude. Why do you have to be such a ****? This is the internet!!! If you talked to me like that face to face I'd make you eat your words. Why are you so hostile, do you think your elite because you know a bit about phones? God, this is some peoples hobby for crying out loud. Be easy on them. Every post I've seen from you recently has some attitude with it. I hope your just having a bad week or something... Take a chill pill and calm down. We all have something in common here, you aren't any better than the rest of us.
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I don't know what you mean by "all of my posts recently have had attitude." I generally answer any questions asked and follow it up with any advice I can offer. threads like this where, even unintentionally, the OP is kind of being dismissive toward the excellent work Unhelpful, DG, eugene (and a slew of others who I have forgotten to name).
it'd be fine if he was just opening a thread to say "I'm excited for something new! can't wait for froyo! woo!" it's that the attitude of this is "I'm bored with all the work everyone else has done." especially when it's someone who doesn't contribute to development (not counting donations, I have no idea if he has donated) himself. I just want people to be grateful for what they have right now... there's no need a open a thread saying "I want more but I want others to do the work"
Dude. Quit reading into stuff that isn't there. As for donated monies, I have indeed done so in the past. Lots. I HAVE NOT (REPEATING AGAIN) disparaged anyone or their work in my thread or any post I have ever made hear on XDA (feel free to search) If I am complaining about anything it's samsung, And YOU at the moment.
I'll say again then I'm done in this thread. Lighten up Francis.
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I don't know what you mean by "all of my posts recently have had attitude." I generally answer any questions asked and follow it up with any advice I can offer. threads like this where, even unintentionally, the OP is kind of being dismissive toward the excellent work Unhelpful, DG, eugene (and a slew of others who I have forgotten to name).
it'd be fine if he was just opening a thread to say "I'm excited for something new! can't wait for froyo! woo!" it's that the attitude of this is "I'm bored with all the work everyone else has done." especially when it's someone who doesn't contribute to development (not counting donations, I have no idea if he has donated) himself. I just want people to be grateful for what they have right now... there's no need a open a thread saying "I want more but I want others to do the work"
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Everyone take 5 deep breaths......
Better now?
And Kaik, I am NOT directing this at you personally, just used your quote. This is meant as a general comment not directed at any specific person....
Ok, I clicked on this thread because I could have written it myself, as it was intended. Which was obviously "Ok, I tried all the mods and now I want to try a new one or an update of 1 I already have."
For instance, as you can see from my signature, I run sre123. Last night, Designgears posted that 123a would be posted that night. I thought nothing of saying "ooo, can't wait, please hurry!!!" because DG knows how I meant it (I hope).
I have only seen a couple of REAL jerk posts, and those were like "hey thanks, your mod/rom broke my phone" idiots. Read the OP's and mod and your own risk, fools!
I have NEVER programmed. I understand what gets done here, having been a pc tech, but I can ONLY help by installing and testing and reporting results. This device and this forum has inspired me to try to learn what the guys like Cyanogen, Designgears, Eugene etc do. But until I learn, I will eagerly await new stuff to play with, much like the OP of this thread.
Sorry to type so long a note, but the ONLY thing that can ruin this forum is nazi's. I live in S Florida, got enough condo and homeowner association nazi's to deal with !!! =)
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..., and we all know T-mobile has many more dev's to work on ROMS.....
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I wonder why that is. Dosn't seem intuitive that would be the case. TM is a much smaller carrier, with much less coverage. I can't imagine (of course maybe I'm short on imagination) that there are more people on the TM version than the Captivate.
I too am impatient. But the impatience is for the GPS Fix.
Gunny...I'm with you. Seems many people just try to take everything the wrong way. Of course, the fact is, writing things and having them read, the reader doesn't know what your mood is, and it is a fact that if it can be taken wrong, it will be by some.
If I had the time to invest, I'd get into the ROMs. In fact I started to get into DEV. Downloaded the tools, did a couple weeks playing. But my programming has never expanded to Java, and the learning curve is too large, so I guess I won't. I'd enjoy it, but being at the computer all the time is not how I want to spend my time. I already spend a lot of time on it.
Regarding the DEVs, I appreciate them, and enjoy their work, and contribute occasionally to those I tend to utilize and keep using. But that doesn't diminish my right to be impatient. All customers are, no?
I want the GPS fix. All Galaxy S phones come with a nonfunctioning GPS. Froyo will be great to have also but they need hurry up with the GPS. The Droid X and all Motorola Android phones have an awesome GPS out of the box. I'm hoping Samsung gets it together otherwise they're not worth buying if it lacks a feature that most phones nowadays have. This problem from Samsung shows they rush things out to fast and then once they're out they fail to repair phones currently released.
I'll be eating my words if an update gets released within a week though.
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I wonder why that is. Dosn't seem intuitive that would be the case. TM is a much smaller carrier, with much less coverage. I can't imagine (of course maybe I'm short on imagination) that there are more people on the TM version than the Captivate.
I too am impatient. But the impatience is for the GPS Fix.
Gunny...I'm with you. Seems many people just try to take everything the wrong way. Of course, the fact is, writing things and having them read, the reader doesn't know what your mood is, and it is a fact that if it can be taken wrong, it will be by some.
If I had the time to invest, I'd get into the ROMs. In fact I started to get into DEV. Downloaded the tools, did a couple weeks playing. But my programming has never expanded to Java, and the learning curve is too large, so I guess I won't. I'd enjoy it, but being at the computer all the time is not how I want to spend my time. I already spend a lot of time on it.
Regarding the DEVs, I appreciate them, and enjoy their work, and contribute occasionally to those I tend to utilize and keep using. But that doesn't diminish my right to be impatient. All customers are, no?
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From what I have read about Dev's and Tmobile is mainly because Tmob was the first to have Android. Lots of them are familiar from being already on Tmob. But that is just what I have read, does not necessarily make it correct. The dev's for the Captivate are doing a phenomenal job getting us great products.
Highlighted portion: Joking aside since I know you are, if people are impatient they really should start learning how to do this stuff. The intent of the thread missed the mark based on how it was written. We all want more ROM's or theme's or launchers etc...and they are coming but nobody has any say to be impatient when the majority of these dev's do these on a donation basis. How bad would it suck when people continue to feel impatient and the dev's decide to not dev anymore?

Gtab Dev Appreciation Thread

I know everyone keeps saying thanks for all you hard work, but I do not think we can thank you enough.
I will not list all of the Gtab Dev's, you know who you all are.
I just wanted to start this thread for us that have been here from the beginning of the gtab and it's place here on XDA From one huge thread to it's own home.
This will also give those new user's an idea of who here help make this device a better device and who Viewsonic really needs to thank for current and future sales.
Everyone, please keep the thread on track (this is not a place for questions and answers and discussions of apps, roms and such)
just say "THANKS"
Twelve ounce solute to all XDA devs
Thanks!!!
-:Sent from my ViewSonic GTablet running Robeet's TnT Lite using Tapatalk Pro:-
GRACIAS!!
Thanks Roebeet and others!
I can truly say this thing would be back without the dev's hard work. Thanks !
I did return one early on...Then kept reading the posts and went back and bought another one.
Added tnt 2.2 "liked it alot"
But the VEGAn build beta2 has passed them all by. This thing is so nice now.
iPhone ipad what are those Consumer devices... they seem like old crippled OS's from the past. Remember WM5 ??? No I forgot the minute I went to Treo. Remember Treo..no I forgot the minute I went to iPhone 1st gen. Now...
Remember iPhone 4/3gs no I forgot the minute I got a Android Samsung Captivate. Now the circle is complete with the Viper Tablet( G tablet with VEGAN beta xx)!
Obrigado !
Oh with out a doubt!! Us and Viewsonic owes these guys ...I was so disappointed when I first got my g tab home and saw how slow it was. I actually boxed it back up and was going to return it the following day. I stumbled on this site and stayed up all night tweaking my new favorite toy.
Big thank you. I bought one the first day but took it back. I just bought another one after seeing the great options given us by the great cooks here!
Wowsher
This has been one of the most active and resourceful forums I've been a part of. Many many thanks to Roebeet and the other developers for their tireless contributions to the forum and for making the Viewsonic G Tablet a wonderful choice.
Thank you! I would have returned this device had I not stumbled across this great site!
You have made an android noob look great! I love my device now and Thank all the Developers and users out there!
I'm with you guys I never would've bought this device if it wasn't for the days of reading threads on xda and seeing the support itbwas getting. I knew it couldn't be bad if it was getting so much love from the devs. THANK YOU!!! For making putting the tegra 2 to good use
Thanks!
very, very much appreciated!
Its been fun to watch all the collaboration and hard work.
Thanks!!
All the hard work is very appreciated here.
Its like the old 6 million doller man TV show in the 70's: We can rebuild it... better, stronger, faster. Indeed they did.
Thank you ALL, for all of your hard work. Without you, the G-tab would be dead.
THANKS
thanks I almost returned it. I switch roms about 3 to 4 days from roebeet to CM6 to TNT lite
Much respect to the devs.
My turn!
Rothnic, many thanks for your initial zPad roms, your subsequent dealings with their devs to bridge the gap, and your amazing work with the VEGAn build.
GoJimi, your work on the VEGAn is nothing short of amazing and we wouldn't even have a build without you. I was ready to give up on it before you got alpha 1 working.
Bekit. Clockworkmod. I think we all know how important that tool is in our build work. And your nvflash work has made it possible to restore an otherwise bricked device. I can't thank you enough for that.
Proengin. You've been the middle man between myself and Modaco / Malata, and your info has helped us immensely with our builds.
To everyone who I've mentioned in my build posts (there's a lot of you out there). Every tip and fix you've helped with has made our devices better.
And to the community here -- your testing and feedback have helped enormously to make a mediocre device great. There are numerous things you've suggested that I would have never even thought of, and now I get to reap the benefits of, on my own device!
THANKS!!!
Roebeet, I can't that you enough! I've been following your mods since I found myself frustrated with my first Eken and I came across your WPDN mods on slatedroid which prompted me to go out and get one of those and then when you got a gTab I jumped on that bandwagon too and again have you to thank for a device that works much better than it did out of the box. Thanks again to you and anyone else who has contributed to your efforts. If our paths ever cross I look forward to buying you a drink.
Another person of great help to this newbie is Wasserkapf. He has been most patient, and kind to me as I embark on my journey with the G Tablet. Thanks!

[VIDEO] Samsung Captivate Weekly ROM Review

All links pulled due to XDA Request after an XDA member complained I was only out for profits to a moderator on a few products I have. Due to the fact I link to my JIG and a few other things in many videos, I was asked to pull any content relating to this.
I will still be offering all this great material at my website. Just go to google and search for MobileTechVideos.
good idea, thanks for the video
Awesome review!
Quadrant it fixed now
All 720p decode/encode was busted
DG! Question and feel free to say no by all means but maybe I can get your attention with out a PM or post in your ROM thread which I'm sure is hard to ever see for you.
I am adding a download page on my website and wondered if I could also host your ROM's there? I wanted to host lots of things from ROMs, to useful CWM packages to open source apks and others. I completely understand if you do not want me to do that and I wanted to ask before doing so. PM me if you see this...I've pm'd you on the subject once but doubt you saw it as I'm sure your box is through the roof on PM's.
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DG! Question and feel free to say no by all means but maybe I can get your attention with out a PM or post in your ROM thread which I'm sure is hard to ever see for you.
I am adding a download page on my website and wondered if I could also host your ROM's there? I wanted to host lots of things from ROMs, to useful CWM packages to open source apks and others. I completely understand if you do not want me to do that and I wanted to ask before doing so. PM me if you see this...I've pm'd you on the subject once but doubt you saw it as I'm sure your box is through the roof on PM's.
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Heh, ya, it gets maxed out every week or so...
That's fine tho.
I have been looking to flash my phone with a ROM but I can never decide which one to go with so at least now I can get some insight into what some of these do and how fast they are.
I will be looking forward to seeing these every week.
Thanks for taking the time and doing the great side by side comparisons. I look forward to checking out your weekly videos!
Nice review. Is the sound quality issue you mention the result of the Captivate having unique hardware in the form of the "Audience" voice-processing chip that the I9000 does not? It's a shame that one would have to give up support of this circuitry for the sake of running a custom ROM.
I remember reading about this a while back but thought it had been sorted out/fixed.
Good review. Liked the comparison.
There are some interesting comments on your perception video about lack of support for the audience processing chip
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There are some interesting comments on your perception video about lack of support for the audience processing chip
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Yes I agree. I'm not sure if that's the correct reason as the speaker phone function works flawlessly but it's interesting to say the least.
subscribed to your channel. awesome idea
Love the videos, keep it up!
Phoenix Rising 3.0 Rom Review added. See it under rom reviews! Or here! http://youtu.be/so7OUPykv0U
This community has just received a +1 by having you around.
Nice work with the vids and pretty informative for people looking to get details and previews before flashing. I'm just going to go around thanking your posts.
Hopefully people can recognize the amount of time that you're putting into this stuff and be thankful that you have a Captivate in your hand.
Lovin the videos and website. Thank you for the time you are putting into this I think you have something great going here. If you & DG ever decide to get different phones or leave the Galaxy S community I will defiantly follow.
Great videos, but noob question.
How are the roms that different from each other?
Most of them seem to be running similar kernels and you can still flash whichever ones you want for lagfix or OC/UV.
Do they mostly differ in terms of appearance/default apps? How about speed/performance?
You messed up the video!
the left phone has 3.0( due to themed google search)
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comdei said:
You messed up the video!
the left phone has 3.0( due to themed google search)
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Did you pay attention to the part when he shows you the verison?
Tisk tisk
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All new COGNITION V3.01 video is live in the OP or here! http://youtu.be/Tovif0oZxUs

Samsung/XDA part2

I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
Thanks
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SamsungJohn said:
I haven't forgot about you guys. Today we had a meeting with XDA owners via telephone. Were just getting everything ready before we make a huge announcement. I told you guys I'm NOT going to let you guys down. Just be a little patient.
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I'm not sure there are a lot of expectations here to be let down. We know that in most cases you probably wouldn't be able to offer us beta, or even alpha firmware and software to develop with or on. RC firmware and software would be just as much out of the question so we're down to what is already out, or something that is leaked by people friendly to the development communities that take the chance of getting in to a lot of trouble. So I don't really know what you have to offer yet. I am curious to find out, though.
Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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"IF" this where to happen it would be a good thing for both samsung and xda for the simple fact that it would help us make better mods for the samsung community and would allow samsung to release things that are more open to modding and customizations that all of us around here love and enjoy making (or in my case learning to make)...hope all goes well with this.
I am a dubious person and do not have expectations as I am still uncertain as to your intentions and more importantly you identity.
But if all is as you say I would take back to the powers that be, many are obviously unhappy with having to run outdated software in the form of the OS on what was at the time of purchase cutting edge hardware.
Give us a option. Give us a way to open the phone up and flash a AOSP option. A more Nexus-ish approach would be fantastic.
The Mainstream will have what they require in a stock configuration and we the ones that know what the potential of the device is can help you in pushing it to its limits.
Well I'm trying to get my post count up so I can comment in development. Anywho kudos to samsung.
Thanks again John, I'm excited and look forward to hearing your announcement!
For those skeptics, he's been trying to prove that he's legit;
http://img602.imageshack.us/i/20110211164013.jpg/
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http://img46.imageshack.us/i/20110211205212.jpg/
http://img841.imageshack.us/i/20110211205219.jpg/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11300099&postcount=78
He already posted these in the captivate forum, let's show him a better welcome while we wait for final details!
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Dear john, you have sparked a lot of interest, we are drooling at the mouth do you have any gingerbread for us, or dare I speak of honeycomb? ;-)
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Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.
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Honeycomb is made for tablets so I don't think that really helps us. And I highly doubt Samsung is going to release Gingerbread directly to XDA if at all.
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maybe samsung will use us for testing and maybe some tweaking...that would give us a chance to develop on it before its officially released and we would just plain out have it early, cause if you give the devs here like 2 weeks with just about anything it will be fully modded and running to its full potential!!!
props to xda devs!!!
Everyone please come over to this thread.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386
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Hopefully their next approach works out better, they should have known better than to open a topic up to the entire forum
They should probably have moderator's from each device take questions from their users, then they could collaborate and get only the good questions answered. (and you wouldn't have to deal with trolls/flames/etc.)
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Everyone please come over to this thread.
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11375386#post11375386
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I suppose the question *since we can't ask specifics* is....
What can you do to help us and or what tools can you provide to the DEVs to help us get every bit of Awesome out of the device that we can.
Put the ball in your court.
Glad THIS thread is still open...
(Does SamsungJohn know how forums work?!?)
ANYhoo... I'm a give 'em enough rope to hang themselves kinda guy and I've actually been recommending the Mesmerize & Fascinate to friends that need new phones based solely on the great XDA community and what they can get those phones to do using only a bread tie, three pennies, and a jar of Cheez Wiz. Kudos to the devs once again!
I had no delusions that Samsung was a great manufacturer... my TV and DVD/home theater unit have had their share of problems... and I was also aware of the OS update delays in other product lines before I got my phone so that wasn't a big surprise either. BUT, I got in on the free phone thing through USCC and (if I EVER get my $80 rebate) I'll still consider being a Mesmerize owner/user a WIN.
What I see here is a classic example of a company that has the OBVIOUS solution within their grasp and they are actively choosing to find an alternative to it that will provide them SHORT TERM monetary gains. They have set themselves up for failure and they have only themselves to blame. Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing
Guys if you haven't read through it, that topic was closed by a moderator because it was an experiment that failed miserably. (because the general XDA population isn't very good at reading and following instruction, and it turned into a huge flamefest.)
John has been confirmed by several sources to be who he says he is (at least works for samsung) and is here working with the XDA administration to (in an organized way) swap feedback with the developing community (on all samsung products).
On a side note Supercurio has been in correspondence with Korean Samsung and has been also pushing for this very thing to happen, but from what I've read i'ts pure coincidence that John arrived when he did.
Anyway, sounds to me like we need to be patient as information IS coming as soon as they figure out the best way to go about this whole thing. This is how I've taken things from what I've read today, don't quote me....
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Here's a vocabulary lesson for SamsungJohn et al... crowdsourcing
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In all fairness Crowdsourceing is what the whole AOSP is about. Android was and is developed to be Open Source. So if a company is reaching out to the community it can't be all bad.
I just think that for the most part a lot of us here are end users.
While I am sure that others like me want to, and strive to learn more, we simply will not be on a par with the current crop of DEVs as they progress as well.
I think the idea of a couple DEVs from each of the respective forums of the variations of the SGS platforms being in contact is a smart idea.
Dcows, Phidelt, and of course JT and many of the OPs in the Samsung Fascinate IRC channel would be obvious choices.
In fact a meeting of the minds in a channel of choice with only participants having voice would be nice as well.
I do understand and hope that SamsungJohn does know as well that most here are simply end users and just wanna know when we will get xxx or yyy ..
I will now go back to my corner get my Java Text out and see if I can learn, learn, learn....
If samsung really wants to get in good with the developement community, they would be wise to make it entirely official, and go to engadget or someone with a press release. If you want to gain our trust, give everyone the AOSP build.
Do I want sammy to be community-minded? Absolutely.
Am I going to trust one guy who says he works for our manufacturer? Well, let's get to the root of that. Do I trust the company who created out hardware? Not at all.
Sighcosis said:
Dcows, Phidelt, and of course JT and many of the OPs in the Samsung Fascinate IRC channel would be obvious choices.
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Yeah I frequent the irc with those guys and we're always willing to help people... I think a lot of people come to forums just to get help and information rather than to develop and theme and stuff like we do. It would probably be more beneficial for Samsungjohn to maybe set up a date on the irc and say like "I will be on from x time to y time" and then people can get on and ask questions and talk about things, and more of the power users who use the irc regularly will get a chance to maybe learn some stuff or help out Samsung.
It would also make it much easier to control, if things get out of hand then the OPs can simply kick or ban the culprits.
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any news on ICS

I've been tearing Google apart page by page looking for any ICS info for the thunderbolt....
I can't find anything recent about ICS for it.
I called HTC support, the guy didn't know much if any about it
I know you guys on here are way better about finding info leaks, anything found recently?
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Nothing.
My guess is that the update will be cancelled and we will never see it.
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I've been tearing Google apart page by page looking for any ICS info for the thunderbolt....
I can't find anything recent about ICS for it.
I called HTC support, the guy didn't know much if any about it
I know you guys on here are way better about finding info leaks, anything found recently?
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End of october was the last rumor, so soonish allegedly, but more likely never then sooner. Kind of frustrating
AFAIK it'll just be released, I doubt there'll be advance information since it's getting to be old news.
Look in the VZW forums and maybe there'll be some info there but I doubt it, the best place to learn of it is probably right here.
Sorry, I know that's not very helpful.
I'm just stoked we have yet another thread in which to discuss this alleged vaporware again and again and again and again.....
Maybe if ALL XDA Thunderbolt threads were asking about ICS, "it will come".
Unfortunately guys, it's more like, "If we build it, it will come".
It goes something like this:
Something something, rumor, tidbit, leak, rumor, secret, wink wink, it's coming, oh maybe later, oh maybe not at all, maybe still, oh hell we don't know.....fluff, fluff, some more fluff,
NO UPDATE FOR YOU!
"The End"
Have a nice day and don't forget to sign up for a new tiered data plan on your way out!
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I'm just stoked we have yet another thread in which to discuss this alleged vaporware again and again and again and again.....
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When ICS arrives we'll have hundred of threads asking about Jelly Bean so you can be stoked all over again! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

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