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FYI. TB no 4g, 3g or data going in and out

Apparently there are issues with TB losing 4g or 3g, most commonly when power cycling or at random. A battery pull might help but the only temporary fix I have found is to do a factory data reset which will bring back data services however it is by no means a complete resolve from what I have found. Speaking with a verizon tech I know these issues have been lifted up to fix whatever on the network side is causing this issue. So if you find yourself without data and a reset is not to big of a deal (which for me its not) I would recommend just resetting the device and then refrain from powering down your device until it is fixed

Do a factory reset
That worked well for me.
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I did a reset, pulled the battery, and then spent three hours on the phone with tech support. Eventually I ended up tethering to my Evo, connecting the market, and downloading an app called "restart connections." It works very well.
On the plus side, you don't even have to power down the device when you use it.
Just thought I'd let you know about it, as it's much easier and more convenient.

I just got my TB yesterday coming from an EVO and Sprint's nightmare of a network. Phone lost data after about 3 hours and I had to Hard reset. I don't get it. I tried everything else. Airplane mode, pull battery, turn data off and on... ect. Reset fixes it. Love the phone it's WAY faster then my rooted EVO with sprint lovers ROM!!! The power cord hookup on the side is an epic fail tho. You cant use the kickstand with it plugged in!!

I must be lucky, I live in a suburb of Chicago, and go all over the burbs and the city for work, and I have had no signal issues. Actually, I am in my office now on the 33rd floor downtown, my coworker stopped by to check out the Tbolt, and we did a speed test, I got 5800kbs down and 5600kbs up. On 3g, I barely had a signal in my office, and would get 200 -300 kbs down in my office. Win! Plus, I have 2-4 bars consistent up here. LTE is awesome.

It wasn't a loss of signal. It lost internet connection. It would talk and text fine but no data.

Sen.droid said:
Apparently there are issues with TB losing 4g or 3g, most commonly when power cycling or at random. A battery pull might help but the only temporary fix I have found is to do a factory data reset which will bring back data services however it is by no means a complete resolve from what I have found. Speaking with a verizon tech I know these issues have been lifted up to fix whatever on the network side is causing this issue. So if you find yourself without data and a reset is not to big of a deal (which for me its not) I would recommend just resetting the device and then refrain from powering down your device until it is fixed
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This is extremely amusing. Yesterday I spent the majority of the day trying to find people with the same issues I was having and I couldn't so this morning I woke up and I said screw it, its time to do a factory reset and that worked. Today I get online and there are about 10 different sites with people reporting the same thing lol. Anyway OP is right do a factory reset. I tried just about everything else and this was the only thing that worked. For those that don't want to have to setup their phone again don't be too worried about this. The device restores most applications and settings in said applications.

I did a factory reset and it did indeed get me data restored in my house. I'm still confused however because other people in my house have VZW and have full coverage all over the house including the basement which is where my room is. 1 has an HTC incredible, and the other a droid 2. 3-4 bars of 3G no problem. For me though i get mostly 1-2 bars without 1X and sometimes with, maybe 1 bar of 3G if i leave the phone still and dont move it. No 4G. I've tried changing the settings to 3G only, or 4G only and stuff like that. Nothing. I've also switched under settings ---> wireless and netorks ---> mobile networks ---> system select ---> changed it from automatic to home only which some people have said worked for them.
On top of all that my phone thinks im in queens LOL! Im just outside of washington dc. Ah the growing pains of a new phone! Now, when im outside my house... Thats night and day. Phone works perfectly! I get great 4G speeds all over my area. Never a problem. Hopefully VZW is aware of the issue and will resolve it shortly.

Hello i have a stock tbolt... I just rooted and clockwork my question is if I do a factory reset will I lose root or will I have any other issue thanks in advance
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Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks > Acces Point Names > "menu" Reset to Default. What really sucks is when you are on 4G Wifi hosting several devices and you loose Mobile Network. People look at you and think "looser" while they are mooching of your 4G radio....
Works like a charm. Had to do this on my previous AT&T HTC Inspire.

Im in Philly and had no problems today.......

what a bummer. got the phone in the mail this morning and spent all day setting it up. just had to factory reset to get my data back. tried all of the suggestions in this thread and the other one and nothing would bring it back.

Meh, I hate this. Just got this phone today and no data on it while moms iPhone has perfect 3g. I am just gonna wait for some fix though since don't want to reset my phone every time I turn it off.
At least I have wifi

This loss of data issue is really starting to piss me off. I just spent the last hour setting my phone up again after doing another factory reset. Has Verison even said that it's an issue they're working on?

WilliamStern said:
This loss of data issue is really starting to piss me off. I just spent the last hour setting my phone up again after doing another factory reset. Has Verison even said that it's an issue they're working on?
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Take it with a grain of salt but the guy at the VZW (official, not a fake store) store last night said he heard about an upcoming software update within the next few weeks. I highly doubt that, but the guy did actually seem to be on the up and up with what he knew about phones and technology, he didn't come across as one of those "dismissive, just trying to sell you everything under the sun" asswipes.
I sure do hope they get this resolved soon. I have no data in my own house, meanwhile other roomates, all on verizon have damn near perfect 3G coverage inside and hell 3G is good enough for me even though Verizon says im fully covered for 4G. I'll take 3G until they get all that fixed. Just give me something! Meanwhile my old G2 would get full service in house as well. I'm almost stuck having to still use that for a while and i probably will hold on to it for another month or two.

this is driving me crazy - I had 4G the first few days, but then kept getting the cycle 1x, 3g, 4g but with no data most of the time late last week (LA area). Then yesterday I had 4G but no data, and finally got it to connect to 4G after several reboots and cycles. Now it won't connect to 4G at all (in an area that had solid 4G early last week). I have done factory data resets, pulled battery, forced 3G, LTE and both in the service menu, pulled sim card several times, forced home and auto networks and data roaming on and off. I've about had it.
Either the 4G local towers have gone dark since Saturday morning, or my phone just won't connect to the LTE signal. At least with the EVO when I was stationary in a 4G tower area I would get and keep solid 4G and data all the time, and handoffs to 3G were quick and smooth. The radios and/or network in this phone are not ready for prime time.

Same story as everyone else (I've tried everything--phone isn't rooted). No 4g in my area, so I don't expect that. What I do expect is to get solid 3g when my friend next to me on his droid is getting solid 3g. I'm stuck with 1x, and even that goes in and out...

same here. I think it's more of a provisioning issue than an issue with the device.
I'm pretty sure restoring default doesn't fix problem as I tried going from one ROM to the next and all are getting the same thing.

zeavott said:
same here. I think it's more of a provisioning issue than an issue with the device.
I'm pretty sure restoring default doesn't fix problem as I tried going from one ROM to the next and all are getting the same thing.
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^^
Had this same issue on my X. This is a network issue, IMO. Either that, or Qualcomm has some 'splainin' to do...

Data Connection issues?

I am wondering if anyone else has experienced issues with their phone taking way to long to establish a connection when surfing the internet. Some times when I click a link it will take for ever and sometimes not connect at all, of course when it does establish the link it is blazing fast. Typically when it cannot establish a connection I will just put my phone into Airplane mode and then turn Airplane mode off and typically after that it is able to establish a connection.
Thanks.

my phone often goes from good 4g reception to just showing two or three bars with no connection type (never auto switches to 3g, occasionally switches to 1x). just now it went from 4g to no connection type, so i dialed *#*#4636#*#* and tried turning the radio off and on, tried changing the radio mode to LTE only, cdma prl auto, and a couple of the other choices and it never seems to make a difference (always poor connectivity, sometimes total data drops, sometimes while tethering and sometimes when just using the phone normally). could just be LTE tower work in many areas, but im looking forward to an upcoming software/firmware update from htc or verizon.
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Sometimes when I lose connection, I just restart my phone and everything works again. Try that and see if it helps!

Smok3d said:
Sometimes when I lose connection, I just restart my phone and everything works again. Try that and see if it helps!
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that did work
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I run into that quite often... sometimes it clears up after 20 seconds, others I have to disable and re-enable the data connection. I'm strictly in a 3G area, and it's done it with LTE on and off, as well as stock ROM and my custom ROM.

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Really? A $500 phone and you're ok with having to turn it off and on to maintain a data connection?
I've had several HTC phones, going all the way back to my WinMo phone, and this Thunderbolt has to be the worst HTC phone I've used to date.
On my second device, if I keep it, it'll only be to grandfather the unlimited 4G data plan.
Inconsistent data connections and force closes up the wazoo... Wow!

hecatomb said:
I run into that quite often... sometimes it clears up after 20 seconds, others I have to disable and re-enable the data connection. I'm strictly in a 3G area, and it's done it with LTE on and off, as well as stock ROM and my custom ROM.
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Quickest way so far is use the free app called "Restart Connection" works for me like a charm....

aedillor said:
Quickest way so far is use the free app called "Restart Connection" works for me like a charm....
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Well, I've got the quick buttons in the dropdown tray in my ROM, so it's just as fast... still, its something that shouldn't be happening in the first place.

jackoutside said:
Really? A $500 phone and you're ok with having to turn it off and on to maintain a data connection?
I've had several HTC phones, going all the way back to my WinMo phone, and this Thunderbolt has to be the worst HTC phone I've used to date.
On my second device, if I keep it, it'll only be to grandfather the unlimited 4G data plan.
Inconsistent data connections and force closes up the wazoo... Wow!
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I never said I was okay with that, I just said it worked because I failed to mention doing that with success in my post
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My dig wasn't at you, no offense meant buddy. I'm pretty much fed up with this device and will most likely return and cancel contract.
I've had issues with data since day one and I've never had so many force closes on one device.
This is Verizons flagship 4G device and it's a POS.
I've been on Android since G1, iterated thru the OS with each release thru to Gingerbread on my N1.
Verizon has a rocking 4G network, HTC released a crap phone that was delayed for several weeks. I would have thought that by the time they RTM'd it would have been fixed, or at least better than it is.

jackoutside said:
My dig wasn't at you, no offense meant buddy. I'm pretty much fed up with this device and will most likely return and cancel contract.
I've had issues with data since day one and I've never had so many force closes on one device.
This is Verizons flagship 4G device and it's a POS.
I've been on Android since G1, iterated thru the OS with each release thru to Gingerbread on my N1.
Verizon has a rocking 4G network, HTC released a crap phone that was delayed for several weeks. I would have thought that by the time they RTM'd it would have been fixed, or at least better than it is.
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It's cool, I know what you mean but I'm liking the phone... Occasional reboots don't really bother me that much - this is probably because sprint wimax is nonexistent pretty much anywhere indoors and is the most unreliable network connection ever. the evo was a solid reliable device, but it was worthless because of the network and i canceled sprint to come to verizon for the thunderbolt. im happy with it despite a few annoyances. once i root and cm is released this phone/network combination will be untouchable.
i felt more comfortable using dialup and praying the phone wouldn't ring and disconnect me than i did using sprint wimax. their 3g is slower than dialup in a lot of areas at the moment, too.
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This is driving me crazy also. My phone will constantly drop whatever connection it had (wifi, 3G or 4G) and just sit there with no data connection for a couple of minutes whereby I finally have to reset the radios and then wait while it cycles through 1X and then maybe 3G or 4G if I'm lucky. Or it just goes back to full cdma bars and no data connection. I don't have 5 minutes every time I want to check the internet or email to wait for the phone to reboot or reset radios or do whatever it's doing.
I had the EVO, and while the 4G wimax connection wasn't always stout, if you lost it you immediately grabbed a 3G connection that was solid. This delay/no data connection thing is making me think twice about switching to this phone. Love the 4G when it works, but it holds a connection way too infrequently for me to be useful, and I'm in LA where the service is supposed to be blanketed all the places I'm trying.

my sad experience with my samsung 4g :(

so!
got the samsung galaxy 4g the day it came out. i had actually gotten the g2 originally, and 13 days later, this phone came out and after holding it in my hands i had to have it. it was just... sexy.
so the day i got it i was so happy. i ended up paying nothing for it through a weird fluke situation on tmobiles part, which made it even better.
then the troubles started.
in getting the new phone i knew that although this phone boasts the speeds that it does there was no way i was going to get those speeds. i do a speed test. at the tmobile store (1/4 a mile away from a tower on a tuesday afternoon around 2 pm) i get ..... 0.03 down and 0 up.
....k.
so i give it some time to get used to my sim card and my usage. that's when i notice the battery. i had to charge my phone two times a day on light usage. i turn off all synching, including my google calendar and contacts to see if that helps the battery. meh, a little. but i'm still charging it at least halfway through the day, and i am not able to use my phone at work. that means from the time i unplug it ten minutes before i leave for work until 6 pm (11 hours later) my battery is at roughly 20% ... and i've done nothing on the phone whatsoever. i'm super sad about the battery life and still getting sad speed tests on my "4g".
then about a week after purchase more problems kick in.
pretty soon my picture messages aren't coming through. it's giving me messages i'm used to seeing on my iphone, something about the message size being too big to download (sorry, the wording has left my mind now that i am trying to document it all for you guys).
then i start getting no texts. and sending them is a joke. if i have less than three bars (i usually have two at home and my work building) i am not able to send. it will try and give me a failed message. pulling out the battery will usually fix it, but after a couple of weeks of that it gets used to that fix and doesn't work at all.
i go into the tmobile store.
they switch out my sim (which we had done once before) and at this point my phone doesn't recognize the new sim. the rep tells me i broke my phone (even though my phone at least recognized the previous sim) and tells me that i'll need a new phone, offering to sell me one for cheap. i leave, pretty irritated at the dude.
i go to work, call 611, they tell me my IMEI has never been active on my account. we activate it and lo and behold, my phone recognizes the sim (mmhmm). but still sending messages is still a joke. out of 10 messages i can usually get one to send. it's a sad ratio of sent to failed.
in addition, i am still charging my battery at least once to twice a day with hardly any usage whatsoever (what good is using a phone that never has service anyway?). i've turned off wifi at all times, 4g is off, everything synching is off. i'll take out the sim and put it in my iphone so that it's not constantly searching for service (which texting worked just fine on my iphone) and it STILL dies by the end of my work day - i am lucky if i get 12 hours of standby before having to charge it. i condition my battery with no luck.. it still sucks. i root it and set SetCPU to underclock down to 200mhz when idle just to see if that will help the battery. i get about 14 hours of standby on that.
so, after all of this and about two months later, i finally got a replacement phone today. after looking at the back of the new phone and the old one i discover something interesting...
my sim contacts have been broken this whole time! sad!
( i was going to link to the pic but can't since i'm a new user. )
now, has this new phone fixed my issue? well, for one i'm getting 4g speeds at my place (i live in downtown SLC, i should be getting them here!) for the first time ever and have yet to come across a "failed" message when sending texts. only time will tell but mostly i want to post this to let you know.. if you are having this issue this is NOT normal. talk to tmobile. troubleshoot what you need to and get that mother replaced!
(i'll report back on battery life tomorrow.)

Consider yourself lucky. I live in Murray, phone says 4G but my Vibrant pulls faster speeds on 3g. Lol
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Honestly man I was in SLC a couple weeks ago with my 4g and the speed sucked compaired to here in Reno... I get 7mb up and 1.8 up avg with much higher peaks in Reno. Even at the gateway downtown SLC the 4g sucked at about 3mb upload and 750k up.
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i need a new city

Vegas here. Even though they say we are one of the new turned up cities I'm still only getting 7mb down and 1.5 up on a typical day.
Here's something interesting though, when I upgraded from my G1 to my SGS4G they were supposed to update my data plan.
Logged into my TMO account and it still shows the G1 Unlimited data. Paying $25 instead of the $30.
My wife has a MT4G and her account did get upgraded to the 4G Unlimited data plan for $30 a month.
Possible my phone isn't going to get higher speeds based on the data plan still in my account? I'm doubting it, but I guess it's possible.

joedeveloper said:
Vegas here. Even though they say we are one of the new turned up cities I'm still only getting 7mb down and 1.5 up on a typical day.
Here's something interesting though, when I upgraded from my G1 to my SGS4G they were supposed to update my data plan.
Logged into my TMO account and it still shows the G1 Unlimited data. Paying $25 instead of the $30.
My wife has a MT4G and her account did get upgraded to the 4G Unlimited data plan for $30 a month.
Possible my phone isn't going to get higher speeds based on the data plan still in my account? I'm doubting it, but I guess it's possible.
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i still have the g1 data plan as well, i wonder if that does have anything to do with it. i kinda don't want to ask though, the 5 bucks a month is small but nice to not pay
p.s. for all interested, my battery is at 48% with pretty consistent usage and synching on all day. schweet!

I would have callers t mobile right away and gotten a new phone overnight. I am not too trusting of in store employees. Most don't know how to troubleshoot a phone.
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ambeestar said:
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You can have my city.... except I don't have a city.... it's just a trailer park in the middle of nowhere. But then I get better speed here than I can in the nearest two cities, a ripping 16KB/SEC on a good day, on "AMERICAS LARGEST 4G NETWORK" I spend almost as much time downloading as I do talking to tech support. Then that's another story.

Your data plan will not affect your data speeds in any way.
As for the phone showing 4G and having another 3G device pulling better speeds. The cause is that you are not in a true 4G area. The GS4G does not have an icon for 3G, even if it did, the phone cannot distinguish between 3G or 4G due to the fact that HSPA+ is still 3G hardware on the tower, but provides 4G speeds via software in the base station and the backhaul of the network.

I don't see how you are getting such bad speeds. I live in Kaysville, only 20 minutes from SLC and my average DL speed is usually around 5.0mb/s. The fastest I have gotten over 4g so far is 8.8mb/s.

yentlequible said:
I don't see how you are getting such bad speeds. I live in Kaysville, only 20 minutes from SLC and my average DL speed is usually around 5.0mb/s. The fastest I have gotten over 4g so far is 8.8mb/s.
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If you are lucky enough to have a 3 or 4G tower in your area you will likely have good download speed. My download speed sucks. TMO's network is full of holes.... DEAD zones. Even in large areas like Los Angeles, CA. They have a long way to go before their network will catch up with the others.

DelinQuentisDQ said:
Your data plan will not affect your data speeds in any way.
As for the phone showing 4G and having another 3G device pulling better speeds. The cause is that you are not in a true 4G area. The GS4G does not have an icon for 3G, even if it did, the phone cannot distinguish between 3G or 4G due to the fact that HSPA+ is still 3G hardware on the tower, but provides 4G speeds via software in the base station and the backhaul of the network.
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I'm confused by this due to my dell streak 7 actually showing 3g and 4g at different times.

DelinQuentisDQ said:
Your data plan will not affect your data speeds in any way.
As for the phone showing 4G and having another 3G device pulling better speeds. The cause is that you are not in a true 4G area. The GS4G does not have an icon for 3G, even if it did, the phone cannot distinguish between 3G or 4G due to the fact that HSPA+ is still 3G hardware on the tower, but provides 4G speeds via software in the base station and the backhaul of the network.
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I actually get 3g , 4g, edge, and g.
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Bl4ckpheniX said:
I actually get 3g , 4g, edge, and g.
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The GS4G does not even have an icon to represent 3G.
Please, if you can, provide a screenshot.

DelinQuentisDQ said:
The GS4G does not even have an icon to represent 3G.
Please, if you can, provide a screenshot.
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I will have to do it Monday, cause it only happens when I leave my office building. When I am in my office building I will often go into data roaming through at&t. This may have something to do with why it shows up. But it is there.
If you truly doubt it. Go to the market and download ninja morph. Then use it to make a copy of your framework-res.APK. From there open the COPY that you made. Look in framework-res.apk\res\drawable-hdpi-v4
Do not try and look in the actual phones framework-res.apk. Because it will break a couple things and you will have to re-flash. But if you make the copy it will automatically extract the apk and you can view the files with your computer.

DelinQuentisDQ said:
The GS4G does not even have an icon to represent 3G.
Please, if you can, provide a screenshot.
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that my friend, you are wrong on.
I get the 3G icon on my elevator everyday before and after work.

4g
I always get 4g in the missouri area and I get 13mbps

[Could be my phone only] This phone has some serious problems!!! :(

Phone was fine, sleeping. Tried waking up and nothing. Tried again nothing. So I figured crap it's shut itself off and won't turn on. So battery pull and turned it back on. Then boom! Get's to the T-Mobile G2X logo and then just freezes there. WTF???
For a while I thought that was it, I pulled battery yet again.
Turned back on and now it booted up ok. WTF is going on with this? I've never seen these type of issues with other phones. What could cause this? Almost seems like a hardware issue because I used it all day today for about 10h with no issues.
So I got the phone at 4PM yesterday.
- Worked fine from 4PM - 11PM. I rebooted myself. Started up fine and then rebooted at 11:30PM
- Worked fine rest of night and went to bed at 2AM...was charging all night, woke up and used it fine. 8:30AM rebooted.
- Used it all day at work and no issue. Was using it while walking the dog at like 6PMish and boom reboot.
- Used it since 6PM and then it just did the hard lock/screen off thing that required 2 battery pulls to revive it.
Before this last what is essentially a crash, I had GPS turned off so that didn't help. I've turned it back on.
In all these situations I had WiFi calling enabled so I'm now trying with WiFi calling disabled and see if I still have issues.
I'm giving this phone a week because I love it so much but if I can't get it stable it's going back and I'll have to go back to VZW and my Incredible. Major bummer

Have none of those issues. Might have a defective phone. And u were a verizon customer and didn't get the TB? Verizon LTE blows everyone... way faster than Tmo.. I have both lol so I know what I'm talking. G2x faster tho but TB faster network. Downloads and browsing
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ajftl said:
Have none of those issues. Might have a defective phone. And u were a verizon customer and didn't get the TB? Verizon LTE blows everyone... way faster than Tmo.. I have both lol so I know what I'm talking. G2x faster tho but TB faster network. Downloads and browsing
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Ummm... I got 12Mbps on MyTouch4G on T-Mo's network - my buddy has the TB and has yet to pass 9. If this phone had HSPA+ 21, I imagine I'd be able to eek out 17 or 18 on T-Mo.
Anyway yeah I don't have any issues with mine other than things that were my own stupidity (skipping the Google login and trying to set it up later which broke wifi calling and market access over wifi and required a factory reset to fix). Its an amazing device!

Yeah, I'm all clean here too. I'm not experiencing anything negative and been using the phone all day. Fantastic device, glad I got it.

Sounds like you got a lemon and need to try another before you trash it s having serious problems.....
Try again there's always bad ones out the batch.

EtherealRemnant said:
Ummm... I got 12Mbps on MyTouch4G on T-Mo's network - my buddy has the TB and has yet to pass 9. If this phone had HSPA+ 21, I imagine I'd be able to eek out 17 or 18 on T-Mo.
Anyway yeah I don't have any issues with mine other than things that were my own stupidity (skipping the Google login and trying to set it up later which broke wifi calling and market access over wifi and required a factory reset to fix). Its an amazing device!
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on my tb i hit 16-even 20mbps lol i haven't touch over 8mbps on my g2x yet and upload speeds are much better with verizon

Those of you not having problems. Are you all using Wifi calling? Do you have network mode to auto, GSM or wcdma?
CNN just updated their app so maybe that'll help me if that was the culprit.
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I have a Xoom on Verizon that will soon get LTE and I'll use as a hotspots so I don't really need a VZ phone.
ajftl said:
Have none of those issues. Might have a defective phone. And u were a verizon customer and didn't get the TB? Verizon LTE blows everyone... way faster than Tmo.. I have both lol so I know what I'm talking. G2x faster tho but TB faster network. Downloads and browsing
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EtherealRemnant said:
Ummm... I got 12Mbps on MyTouch4G on T-Mo's network - my buddy has the TB and has yet to pass 9. If this phone had HSPA+ 21, I imagine I'd be able to eek out 17 or 18 on T-Mo.
Anyway yeah I don't have any issues with mine other than things that were my own stupidity (skipping the Google login and trying to set it up later which broke wifi calling and market access over wifi and required a factory reset to fix). Its an amazing device!
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I also have the thunderbolt and the nexus s and I previously owned the mytouch 4g. And verizon 4g is spectacular to say the least. I have downloads speeds as high as 20mbs on a consistent basis. Tmobile can not compete with verizon service. But tmobile does offer a great value, and has stellar customer service.

Meh, idk. I use both and while Verizon 4g is currently fast, not always faster, that wont last. On 3g, Verizon is much slower.
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Maybe you could edit the title to say "My Phone" even though some others share your grief. It would appear not all does. .....thus far.
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ajftl said:
on my tb i hit 16-even 20mbps lol i haven't touch over 8mbps on my g2x yet and upload speeds are much better with verizon
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And if T-Mobile had gone with a better chipset (21-42Mbps instead of the same 14.4 that the G2 has - mind you the Vibrant 4G has 21Mbps HSPA and my buddy regularly gets similar speeds to yours - 17-19 down and about 2.4 up) for the baseband, it would be a non-issue. T-Mobile has a smaller network and thus more backhaul than Verizon. Also, using the AWS band, T-Mobile can support more calls and data connections per tower than Verizon can on the 700 band. Its just the way that the spectrum works. 700MHz broadcasts further but can't handle as many connections as 1700 can but 1700 requires more towers for sufficient coverage but has over twice the total network capacity as 700. That said, Verizon being an ISP as well gives them a backhaul advantage.
As was previously stated though, do not expect the speeds on Verizon to last. Also keep in mind that Verizon is quite like Sprint at this point - you have to have LTE *AND* CDMA turned on to make and receive calls and still get your 4G data. This equals much higher battery drain than an equivalent "HSPA+" phone on T-Mobile with the same signal strength being taken into account.
Anyway, as was said earlier in the thread, don't give up on the phone. Try a factory reset first (settings/privacy) and set everything back up again - if that does not work, exchange the device. I've had no issues outside of my own doing with the G2x yet which is amazing since I almost never buy the first generation of a device due to bugs. LG really makes high end android phones.

I had installed the Car Home from the Market by sending to the phone via bt. After looking at my usage in spare parts it looks like it was using some sensor all the time so I'm hoping that was the issue. IV uninstalled it and closed the current car home app that's included. So far no sensor usage. Lets hope that fixes it. Would make sense because I doubt other folks installed this Car Home app on their phones.
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I'm also having similar issues with my phone. I received the phone yesterday morning and i've got nothing while trying to wake it up a few times. It's happened about 5-6 times and it seemed to happen while charging the phone. I don't know if that is a coincidence though. I pull the battery and then it will boot up fine. I actually had the same issue with my original G1. The issue went away after the phone received a few updates.

SPD7 said:
Meh, idk. I use both and while Verizon 4g is currently fast, not always faster, that wont last. On 3g, Verizon is much slower.
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This. Wait until more than a few Verizon customers are on the 4G network, speeds will drop a bunch. LTE will probably still beat out T-Mobile's 4G, but not by much once the network gets some traffic. As it stands, Verizon only has one 4G phone that is pretty new, so I'm sure the total number of 4G users is quite low.

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I'm also having similar issues with my phone. I received the phone yesterday morning and i've got nothing while trying to wake it up a few times. It's happened about 5-6 times and it seemed to happen while charging the phone. I don't know if that is a coincidence though. I pull the battery and then it will boot up fine. I actually had the same issue with my original G1. The issue went away after the phone received a few updates.
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I'm definitely jinxing myself but....since I removed the Car Home app and then rebooted. Then stopped the Car Home app that came with the phone from running. It's been OK. Battery life is better too. If I can get it to last at least 5 days before a reboot, might be livable until an update comes along.

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And if T-Mobile had gone with a better chipset (21-42Mbps instead of the same 14.4 that the G2 has - mind you the Vibrant 4G has 21Mbps HSPA and my buddy regularly gets similar speeds to yours - 17-19 down and about 2.4 up) for the baseband, it would be a non-issue.
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I am still pretty disappointed in this. I can't figure out why T-Mobile downgraded their latest phones (Sensation and G2x) to 14.4 from the 21 of the Vibrant 4G. This is supposed to be their flagship phone, but they didn't even put their best modem in it, yet the Sidekick 4G got a 21Mbps modem? Just don't get it.

**** **** ****! Sorry...just happened again. Reboot. Bam. This is irritating to the extreme. Wifi was off, BT was off, phone had been fine all morning. Was exchanging texts with people and put the phone down. Next thing I see, it's rebooting.
WTF!!!!!!!!!
Maybe it's an app that's running but just seems very random.

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I am still pretty disappointed in this. I can't figure out why T-Mobile downgraded their latest phones (Sensation and G2x) to 14.4 from the 21 of the Vibrant 4G. This is supposed to be their flagship phone, but they didn't even put their best modem in it, yet the Sidekick 4G got a 21Mbps modem? Just don't get it.
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I believe this has nothing to do with tmobile. the reason why the galaxy s and sidekick support 21mb/s is because the hummingbird processor supports it while the snapdragon and nvidia only support 14.4 mb/s
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**** **** ****! Sorry...just happened again. Reboot. Bam. This is irritating to the extreme. Wifi was off, BT was off, phone had been fine all morning. Was exchanging texts with people and put the phone down. Next thing I see, it's rebooting.
WTF!!!!!!!!!
Maybe it's an app that's running but just seems very random.
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This doesn't seem so random anymore, and I've read about all the same issues with the O2X. Are you going to try to exchange it before making a final decision?

Have to turn off mobile data 2-3 times a day

I have had internet connectivity issues that get cleared up immediatley after i disable mobile data and then re-enable.
It happens when i am in a solid 4g area sitting in the same place surfing the web and my data will just die. and it comes back right up after i disable and re-enable my mobile data.
it also happens when im on the bus going back and forth between 3g and 4g.
is this a normal droid charge issue?
seems like it craps out after about 10 min of surfing every time i remember it happening.
i had this happen when i was stock, after i rooted stock, and now on tweek 2.0

Had that issue yesterday on 4G, and it cleared up the same evening. Occasionally will lose data connectivity on 4G, even with it's still showing the connection. It's not very frequent or consistent, and it seems to have gotten better over time. There is definitely some flakiness on the radios on the Charge. A friend was sitting right next to me on his Spectrum yesterday and wasn't having any issues. I think it's likely related to Verizon network, but I think some phones are more sensitive to it than others.

Yeah, happens to me too. I had to disable/re-enable data at least twice today. :/
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This happened to me the first couple of days I had the phone. I went to Verizon and they swapped the SIM. Worked fine after then.

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This happened to me the first couple of days I had the phone. I went to Verizon and they swapped the SIM. Worked fine after then.
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hmm.. i did have a few sim issues when i got the phone a week ago, after loading a rom the phone said there was no sim inserted or there was a sim error cant remember which.
maybe swap the sim tomorrow to see if that helps.
sounds like it might be a charge radio issue... i am getting what ever killer phone comes out in a few months anyway. Galaxy s3? HTC one X ? Galaxy Journal ?
Motorola hd ?

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So i got a new sim..
Nothing has changed.
I have netflix and live in a great 4g area and still have to toggle off data 2-3 times a morning on my bus trip into seattle.
It seems like the radio has a hard time figuring out wtf to do once it comes in and out of 4g. I can be sitting at in traffic for 5 min with no signal and flipping the data on and then off... BAM 4g is back.
This makes for annoying netflix / IT Crowd, viewing.
I am glad that i got this phone as a temp solution cheap from craigslist. Motorola Droid fighter or Galaxy S3 will be putting this lump of mediocre electronics to rest in the next month or so.

What radio is installed on your phone? To find this out go to settings/about phone. The baseband version would be your radio. If it says i510.06V.FP1, that means you are on the most up to date radio. I had similar issues before I updated to FP1 but since then, the 3 or 4G has been very quick to connect and stays reliable all day.

One of my buds works for Vzw and he told me that the 4g network is great when it works. In some places vzw is activating 4g network before the network is ready to be deployed. They are doing this because competition has more 4g coverage.
One solution is to set your phone to 3g only and accept reliable slow sppeds or deal with crappy 4g. Eventually vzw will get it right. Wjen though, is anybody's guess.
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