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Smart money says this is why att has been stalling the release of 2.2 for the captivate. To all those who speculate that the cappy won't get official 2.2 i offer counter speculation that they will announce the push sometime between the 13th after the bloatware ATT apmobile launch and the end of February.
AT&T Details Pricing, Launch of AT&T Mobile Hotspot App Coming February 13
Application Provides Additional 2GB of Data, Bundled with AT&T Data Pro
Dallas, Texas, February 02, 2011
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AT&T* today announced select smartphone customers will soon be able to connect multiple devices from their smartphone – via Wi-Fi – thanks to the new AT&T Mobile Hotspot application. The feature will first be available February 13, beginning with the in-store launch of the HTC Inspire™ 4G. Bundled with the AT&T Data Pro plan, customers will benefit from a total of 4GB for $45 per month.
In addition, also on February 13th, to bring AT&T’s smartphone tethering plan in line with the AT&T Mobile Hotspot offer, AT&T will automatically add the additional 2GB of monthly data usage to smartphone customers already on a tethering plan – at no extra charge. Customers will incur the same $20 monthly fee they’re accustomed to paying, only now they’ll receive an extra 2GB of data each month.
AT&T Mobile Hotspot details include:
* Connectivity for multiple wireless devices to AT&T’s mobile broadband network
* 2 GB of data usage for $20 a month, bundled with AT&T’s Data Pro plan ($25 / 2GB)
* The combined AT&T Data Pro plus AT&T Mobile Hotspot will provide 4GB for $45 per month
* 4GB applies to collective use among all devices
* Overage fee of $10 per gigabyte
“Our customers want to connect as many devices as possible to the nation’s fastest mobile broadband network, which is getting faster with 4G,” said David Christopher, chief marketing officer, AT&T Mobility and Consumer Markets. “We want to extend the benefits of an additional 2GB to smartphone customers on our tethering plan. This delivers more value today for the price they’re already paying – and that’s what our customers want.”
Customers will receive a text message from AT&T – as soon as February 13 – once the additional 2GB has been auto-added to their plan.
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As far as I know, they have not yet announced which devices would be supported by this, and the requirements.
It's certainly a logical conclusion to make, but given the complete silence both companies have maintained, who knows what else is causing the delay (and of course, it does not help to explain why the Fascinate and Evo haven't seen their overdue upgrades either).
Already speculated in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939114
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As far as I know, they have not yet announced which devices would be supported by this, and the requirements.
It's certainly a logical conclusion to make, but given the complete silence both companies have maintained, who knows what else is causing the delay (and of course, it does not help to explain why the Fascinate and Evo haven't seen their overdue upgrades either).
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any device that has 2.2 or higher should be supported.
If you have a custom Rom, then it's already in there without paying....
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If you have a custom Rom, then it's already in there without paying....
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most everyone here would be aware of that.
But that could be the reason for the delay. The official leaked firmware also has it FREE. ATT has likely been developing this to have a way to lock it down in the official release and force those using the official update to pay for the ability.
To me that is ignorant (especially in the case of someone with a capped data plan). For instance, if you have a 2gb data cap why should it matter whether you burned through your 2gb on your phone or through a laptop tethered to it?
Would roms built on the at&t 2.2 have free tethering? Basically would it be possible to combine codes and get around at&t?
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Would roms built on the at&t 2.2 have free tethering? Basically would it be possible to combine codes and get around at&t?
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should be people have gotten around it on tmobile. there is a file that has to be removed i think from system or framework then it works.
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should be people have gotten around it on tmobile. there is a file that has to be removed i think from system or framework then it works.
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Awesome. I haven't used it yet but I haven't been where I needed my laptop instead of my phone. It's good to know it's there though.
Also, are they going to lock down wifi access point through the phone? It's basically the same thing right, a computer using the 3g network to go online?
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Also, are they going to lock down wifi access point through the phone?
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That's the tethering we're talking about here. WiFi AP = Mobile HotSpot. I know in the case of Rogers 2.2, wifi APP will tunnel through a hidden app to verify your account before it alow you to connect. However, if you root your phone and delete that specific apk file from system/app folder, the wifi AP will work like normal. I believe Vibrant ROM is the same thing.
Although, when AT&T said it will offer a Mobile HotSpot app, I'm not sure if it will require another separate AT&T app so that you can not easily bypass it. If that's the case, it will involve devs here to update the kernel to add the wifi AP back.
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This all sounds like The X-Files to me
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Although, when AT&T said it will offer a Mobile HotSpot app, I'm not sure if it will require another separate AT&T app so that you can not easily bypass it. If that's the case, it will involve devs here to update the kernel to add the wifi AP back.
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Any wonder why AT$T is slow to release updates? Because thinking like this leads to abuses of their products and systems thus making them have to redesign the software to prevent the abuse. If you're tethering without a plan, you're part of the problem the rest of us users are having to deal with. Not to mention the network slowdowns all that unfettered tethering is causing.
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Any wonder why AT$T is slow to release updates? Because thinking like this leads to abuses of their products and systems thus making them have to redesign the software to prevent the abuse. If you're tethering without a plan, you're part of the problem the rest of us users are having to deal with. Not to mention the network slowdowns all that unfettered tethering is causing.
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thats non-sense for 2 reasons.
1. If you are on a capped data plan. They shouldn't care whether you tether/mobile ap or not. You use your 2GB and go over you get billed regardless of whether the data was used specifically on your phone or a laptop via tethering. You tell me the difference.
2. I DONT ABUSE the service. I have had my phone since June and i have used mobile/AP twice. Both instances were severe storms where my home internet was knocked out and i got on via tether or mobileAP long enough to get updated news on the weather. I never go over the cap and over the course of 12 months might have 3-4 times when tether/mobile AP would be needed in the event of home internet being down in which case i am not doing any significant data usage.
3. The part of the problem with slowdowns is a provider not a user problem. Its called investing in your infrastructure to meet the needs of your customers. There is a need and desire for unlimited data plans (not to mention the only legitimate reason to have a paid plan for tethering is if someone has unlimited data which they no longer offer). You get charged $10 for each GB of data you go over your limit so why not let people on capped plans police their own tethering and pay for the overages when/if they use it. (for instance....if your capped @ 2gb and you use 4GB your billed and addition $20 ..so $25 data plan + $20 overage data fee...or $45 total the same price as tethering. So now what if some months you only used 3GB.....if it was all on your phone your data was $35....why should it cost $10 more or $45 if the data was moved via tethering. In summation the way the data is used is not relevant....it is the amount of data. I think even for those with "unlimited" data there is a soft cap @ around 5GB so your argument doesn't make much sense coupled with the fact that alot of the heavy data usage has come from iphone users with unlimited plans who are using a large amount of data via their iphone NOT TETHERING.
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Any wonder why AT$T is slow to release updates? Because thinking like this leads to abuses of their products and systems thus making them have to redesign the software to prevent the abuse. If you're tethering without a plan, you're part of the problem the rest of us users are having to deal with. Not to mention the network slowdowns all that unfettered tethering is causing.
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So, tell me this: when AT&T deliberately disabled HSUPA on Captivate (you're capped at 300kbps upload max while iPhone can go over 1mbps upload), what kind of abuse AT&T tries to prevent us doing?
I use tethering very rarely but I want to keep my options open. My monthly average data usage is about 300MB. Compared to some others posted here that uses 1 or 2GB a day even without tethering, it is safe to say I'm not the one cause AT&T's network problem.
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So, tell me this: when AT&T deliberately disabled HSUPA on Captivate (you're capped at 300kbps upload max while iPhone can go over 1mbps upload), what kind of abuse AT&T tries to prevent us doing?
I use tethering very rarely but I want to keep my options open. My monthly average data usage is about 300MB. Compared to some others posted here that uses 1 or 2GB a day even without tethering, it is safe to say I'm not the one cause AT&T's network problem.
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Nevermind him...he doesn't have clue 1 what he is talking about.
Att themselves admitted that they data congestion and slowness was due to the iphone users and underestimating how much data they would be and were using. (most of which had nothing to do with tethering).
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There is a need and desire for unlimited data plans (not to mention the only legitimate reason to have a paid plan for tethering is if someone has unlimited data which they no longer offer). You get charged $10 for each GB of data you go over your limit so why not let people on capped plans police their own tethering and pay for the overages when/if they use it. (for instance....if your capped @ 2gb and you use 4GB your billed and addition $20 ..so $25 data plan + $20 overage data fee...or $45 total the same price as tethering. So now what if some months you only used 3GB.....if it was all on your phone your data was $35....why should it cost $10 more or $45 if the data was moved via tethering. In summation the way the data is used is not relevant....it is the amount of data. I think even for those with "unlimited" data there is a soft cap @ around 5GB so your argument doesn't make much sense coupled with the fact that alot of the heavy data usage has come from iphone users with unlimited plans who are using a large amount of data via their iphone NOT TETHERING.
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Each of the major carriers are facing similar problems with the top 5-10% of people consuming a large portion of the data and causing load on the network. T-mobile addressed the problem by throttling data once you pass a certain point. Verizon just changed their terms of service today and is addressing the problem by throttling the top 5% of data users for up to 61 days (depending on where you are in your billing cycle): http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/03/verizon-can-now-throttle-top-five-percent-of-bandwidth-hogs-down/ . AT&T is addressing the problem with tiered data plans and charging per 1GB overage.
Personally, I wish the carriers would give you an option. Option 1, unlimited data with a $20 tethering charge and throttling if you exceed a certain amount. Or Option 2, a tiered data plan for a set price and no tethering charge, pay as you go per 1 GB overage.
While I know people will be upset if they can't get unlimited data + tethering for $15 per month because that is what they had with their old mediamax plan, I think it is an acceptable compromise for the carriers to charge heavy data users more money so they can invest it in making the infrastructure faster and adding more coverage. I'd just like to have more choice in how it works.
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...To me that is ignorant (especially in the case of someone with a capped data plan). For instance, if you have a 2gb data cap why should it matter whether you burned through your 2gb on your phone or through a laptop tethered to it?
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Because to AT&T that is all money in their pockets.
If you have a 2GB data plan, that doe snot mean you will use 2GB that month, or any month. AT&T knows this. They also know that if you have multiple avenues to tap into that 2GB, you will be more likely to use more of it.
I have the unlimited plan, and while I was on a blackberry I think my highest utilization in a month was 200 MB. Multiply that by a few million customers and you can see there is a huge potential for overloading AT&T's network if they all decided to start using even half of their cap in a month.
I am not defending AT&T's move here, but I can see their reasoning behind making tethering difficult for the average customer to get.
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Any wonder why AT$T is slow to release updates? Because thinking like this leads to abuses of their products and systems thus making them have to redesign the software to prevent the abuse. If you're tethering without a plan, you're part of the problem the rest of us users are having to deal with. Not to mention the network slowdowns all that unfettered tethering is causing.
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The other carriers dont seem to have this issue. I dont believe they should legally be able to charge for tethering or doing anything else IP related on a data plan. They're free to charge whatever they want per kilobyte used or they can cut people off if they go over and they really can't handle the excess usage. If you aren't familiar with net neutrality then I'm sure that sounds like a scary assertion. It's far from a simple topic though and there is more at stake than ATT's rights as a company.
If you're tethering without a plan, you're part of the problem the rest of us users are having to deal with.
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If you're on the opposing side of net neutrality then you're part of a much, much larger problem.
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Because to AT&T that is all money in their pockets.
If you have a 2GB data plan, that doe snot mean you will use 2GB that month, or any month. AT&T knows this. They also know that if you have multiple avenues to tap into that 2GB, you will be more likely to use more of it.
I have the unlimited plan, and while I was on a blackberry I think my highest utilization in a month was 200 MB. Multiply that by a few million customers and you can see there is a huge potential for overloading AT&T's network if they all decided to start using even half of their cap in a month.
I am not defending AT&T's move here, but I can see their reasoning behind making tethering difficult for the average customer to get.
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2gb's is 2gb's. Charging for tethering is like charging me more for 2 gallons of gasoline in a rectangular shaped gas can than you charge for 2 gallons of gasoline in a cylindrical shaped can.
Even in your scenario....longterm taking advantage of your customers in a scam doesn't make sense and it still negates that fact that many of the high data users aren't tethering they are iphone users who do all of their internet use on their phone (including people streaming netflix to their iphones). If a user uses 2gb all tethering they shouldn't be charged more than an iphone user who uses 2gb all on their phone.
I totally agree. Charge for tethering has more to do with extra $$ in carrier's pocket than anything else. If your network can't handle the load, throttling on everyone is an acceptable solution, not just the top data hog. Top data hog can be dealt with a cap.
What I don't like is they offer so called 'unlimited' plan then if you use over a few GBs, they start to apply soft caps, either cut you off or throttle you down significantly (T-Mo). This kind of practice should be illegal.
I'd propose following data plan schema:
1. Two tiered: premium vs economic. Premium tier offer a 2 or 4GB hard cap at full speed. Over the cap, you can opt to pay $$$ per GB or simply cut off data connection. Economic tier offer 250 to 350 MB hard cap with much lower speed. Over the cap, you can opt to pay $$$ per MB or simply cut off data connection.
2. Throttling: if network congestion happens, everyone on the network at that moment get throttled down equally until the network traffic eases. Basically, offer a minimum QoS guarantee.
3. Get rid of tethering charge. It can be totally covered by #1 and #2.
Of course, it makes too much sense. No carrier will do it.
So I just signed up for at&t right after the unlimited data plan was retired.. But I heard the at&t unlimited data plan might be pulling a jay-z (comeback) ..
Does anyone know if this is true? Its all I need to be 100% happy/satisfied with my captivate..
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francous said:
So I just signed up for at&t right after the unlimited data plan was retired.. But I heard the at&t unlimited data plan might be pulling a jay-z (comeback) ..
Does anyone know if this is true? Its all I need to be 100% happy/satisfied with my captivate..
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To add to this question: If it were to come back, would it cost more? That will be BS if it does! What sly corporation skills for taking away something people like, and then giving it back for a higher cost. D:
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HERE ya go
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Thanks for the info...sucks "new users"like me who were never on a unlimited plan can't have the option tho :/hopefully some day.. I hate being limited!
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francous said:
Thanks for the info...sucks "new users"like me who were never on a unlimited plan can't have the option tho :/hopefully some day.. I hate being limited!
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lol, I feel ya. Sort of...I have the unlimited plan
But you'd be surprise how many people don't even come close to the 2gb plan. I use the tethering moderately and stream pandora quite a bit, and there's only been a handful of times that I went over the 2gb mark. I'd say for the majority the 2gb is enough, plus they are offering another extra 2gb. I just don't like how they are charging extra for the tethering.
I also have the unlimited and I can admit I never come close to the 2GB.
There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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I also have the unlimited and I can admit I never come close to the 2GB.
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Same here - never reachd 2gb... but I need it for peace of mind. I don't have even check what I've used on my phone. I have to worry constantly about my wife and daughter going over their limits. In fact, my wife accidently went over her 200mb limit by using DroidTV and not having it set for "Wifi Only", coupled with her WIFI settings still at the default setting of "Turn off WIFI when screen goes off" instead of "Never". Even if she was set at 2gb I could see an accident like this happening and costing extra money.
AT&T claims that they notify you when you reach 60%, 90% and 100% of your limit. This is bullsh*t. They don't. First, data use reporting is about 12 hours behind. You can blow your cap by quite a bit in 12 hours. Next, when she went over 200, they sold her another 200 for $15 without any text. I believe this can happen up to 5 times ($90 for 1.2gb). 12 hours later she got a text and I got an email saying she was nearing her limit - but the limit she was nearing was 400mb (the second set of 200mb). We were never informed as she blasted right past the first 200mb. Thank goodness she only had a couple movies set to download. If she had a series recording it would have cost a fortune.
I want to set a hard limit and then have data shut off at that point. Don't sell me extra data automatically. Maybe for technical reasons, they don't know for 12 hours... so they once they find out turn off my data and don't charge me for the overage. Until they can and will do this, I don't think they should be selling limited data plans. Until they can send you warnings in a timely manner, they shouldn't be selling limited data plans.
To AT&T's credit, I was able to retroactively change her data plan to the 2gb plan back to the beginning of my billing cycle - so the mistake cost me $10. Now out of piece of mind I will probably have to keep her at the 2gb plan even though in the past she's never even come close to the 200mb.
RE: Verizon "unlimited"... I can understand temporarily throttling back a heavy user maybe for few hours or days, but not for the rest of the billing cycle and definately not for the next billing cycle. Can you imagine you make one mistake like my wife did and have your speed crippled for up to 2 months? How can they even legally cripple service for a future billing period?
This is important for us to follow because AT&T is probably watching this approach closely and will eventually adopt it for us as well.
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There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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5% is a huge number of customers - probably a lot of them being business customers. Once enough people get throttled back Verizon may have to rethink this approach. Consider what Comcast did. They went from unlimited to 250gb. That's a very reasonable limit that certainly doesn't catch 5% of their internet customers. Of course as time goes by they will have to adjust that 250 up or they will start catching more and more customers.
I don't think they've defined what they consider heavy users yet. It must be pretty low to include 5% of data users.
An even better option would be data buckets, where your unused data rollsover. I've gone near the 200mb cap quite a few times since the default settings cleverly turn off wifi when the phone sleeps :rollseyes:
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"Demographic Research" is why we have the 2gb plan in the first place.
That's why I believe the unlimited plan will be eventually phased out also. Yea, their offering the unlimited plan again, but to me that's mostly PR to get more customers because cases like this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/04/verizon-breaks-first-day-sales-record-with-iphone-4-pre-orders/ I don't really know how truthful that is, since corporate tend to inflate stats for the press.
But competition is good for the consumers, as long as both these billion dollar companies are in high competition, it should be easier on the wallet for us. Hoping...but still believe they are ripping us off as consumers (and I will keep the reasons why to myself, I've seen what it did to the other threads )
These are all opinions, and I take your posts as opinions. So...can we keep this civil. The other threads I've seen regarding this subject matter tend to get heated, which I do avoid (I have enough drama in my life
I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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I don't think the limited plan is a bad idea, but I do see the amount going up and up. Since mobile internet access will exceed home internet access in the future, in my opinion. Which in turn costing us more and more.
As richb500 said, it is important to follow this and see what AT$T does.
When I was following the Fuze/Tilt2 forums it was pointed out that the is no true unlimited plan. The plan is called unlimited but in the TOS it states that over 5G of data transfered ATT can terminate your service.
All carriers have that clause in their respective TOS.
I have the old unlimited plan and have gone ovef 5G once but repeated go over 4G and never got any warning messages about my use.
Just a word of caution.
Sprint seems to be very loose with enforcement. A co-worker has an EVO and uses upwards of 20G a month using it has a hotspot and has never been warned about abusive use which is again in the Sprint TOS.
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There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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shouldn't have to terminate it.
if they weren't greedy and shortsighted they could get most to move over voluntarily with the right incentives.
For Example - Anyone with unlimited who is willing to Renew a new 2 year contract on their voice and take a capped data plan gets to choose any At&t Phone @ no cost with the upgrade. Couple this with informing users that stay on the unlimited they will face throttling if it is abused....(soft cap of 5 or 6 gb).
75% or more would likely take advantage if they could get the latest phone for free (iphone, atrix, whatever else comes down the pike).
Couple it with a marketing campaign to the effect of TETHER AWAY. No charges for tether as we respect your right to use the full potential of your phone. Give 250mb data free to all smartphone users. Offer 2gb @ $25 and 4GB @ 45$ (same as tether pricing but removes the stigma and bad taste of being charged for something that costs them nothing and is a native capability of the OS/Device). Keep the $10 overage charge per every GB of data over the cap.
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I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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Damn you guys are making me feel like I have a problem lol...
I go over 2 gigs almost every month and have to pay the additional 10$ for another gig..came to the point I have to turn off my data and use it only when I need to just to stay under.. (when I'm not home under wifi)
Il trade with you unlimited ppl any day!
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francous said:
Damn you guys are making me feel like I have a problem lol...
I go over 2 gigs almost every month and have to pay the additional 10$ for another gig..came to the point I have to turn off my data and use it only when I need to just to stay under.. (when I'm not home under wifi)
Il trade with you unlimited ppl any day!
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Do you have your wifi set to never turn off? A lot of people think they're safe at home on their wifi... But as soon as the screen turns off, so does the wifi. They default this way to save battery.
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Do you have your wifi set to never turn off? A lot of people think they're safe at home on their wifi... But as soon as the screen turns off, so does the wifi. They default this way to save battery.
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mine stays on all the time.. but i turn my Data Off while my wifi is on so if wifi were to cut out it wouldnt use my data anyway
UPDATE: i called AT&T just for kicks to see if there were a unlimited data plan no one knew about.. turns out there isnt for us smartphone customers but there is for NON Smartphone customers because they use less data.. wtf..
Can we LIE and say we are not a smartphone, say we're on some ol' school slidey phone or something and get that plan!? lol..
Good for us consumers, but anyone that is like me that uses 1GB a day with ease "when you are at work with nothing better to do then surf the net, and watch movies" it becomes a problem, lucky I have unlimited data though and I don't see why they don't sell it to more customers because most who have it don't use nearly that much so its extra money in the pocket
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mine stays on all the time.. but i turn my Data Off while my wifi is on so if wifi were to cut out it wouldnt use my data anyway
UPDATE: i called AT&T just for kicks to see if there were a unlimited data plan no one knew about.. turns out there isnt for us smartphone customers but there is for NON Smartphone customers because they use less data.. wtf..
Can we LIE and say we are not a smartphone, say we're on some ol' school slidey phone or something and get that plan!? lol..
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The unlimited data plan offering is not official, and I don't think customer service will know anything until Verizon iphone official launch date. What I've been reading (ex.) http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/at-t-quietly-matching-vzws-unlimited-data-plan-for-iphone/9317
But this is only a business move, in my opinion, since there are certain criteria you must meet to get back the unlimited plan.
And for your question: No you can't lie about not having a smartphone, when actually you are using a smartphone, they will know.
Is it possible to change the tethering application built into most roms so that it won't deincrement the ttl value?
where did you get this info at?
http://osxdaily.com/2011/03/17/att-cracking-down-on-unofficial-iphone-tethering-mywi-users/
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/03/18/att.clamps.down.on.unofficial.tethering.users/
If you dig through the comments on those articles, it appears that the people who receive the letters are using in excess of 5GB on their unlimited data plan.
Case in point: One of the comments was from a guy who said that his wife was sent the notice from AT&T. From what he says, she hasn't ever tethered, but she's always listening to streaming audio or watching streaming video.
This is nothing new for AT&T. They have long held that 5GB is 'effectively unlimited' for a smartphone, and that anyone who uses more must be using a computer tethered to the phone. With the phones we have now, that simply is not the case anymore. But AT&T is using that as an excuse to try and get people off of the unlimited plans and on to something where they can charge customers more money.
Krynn! said:
If you dig through the comments on those articles, it appears that the people who receive the letters are using in excess of 5GB on their unlimited data plan.
Case in point: One of the comments was from a guy who said that his wife was sent the notice from AT&T. From what he says, she hasn't ever tethered, but she's always listening to streaming audio or watching streaming video.
This is nothing new for AT&T. They have long held that 5GB is 'effectively unlimited' for a smartphone, and that anyone who uses more must be using a computer tethered to the phone. With the phones we have now, that simply is not the case anymore. But AT&T is using that as an excuse to try and get people off of the unlimited plans and on to something where they can charge customers more money.
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I hope you're right.
Also just saw this......I personally dont tether much but have used mobile AP. Might be worth looking into for those that do tether.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/03/18/att-shutting-down-unauthorized-tetherers/
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Also just saw this......I personally dont tether much but have used mobile AP. Might be worth looking into for those that do tether.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/03/18/att-shutting-down-unauthorized-tetherers/
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If they are using ttl to detect tethering, then mobile ap would be effected. I'm not sure if usb tethering does deincrement ttl. All the reports seem to be mentioning WiFi tethering.
i think its a scare tactic.
I don't think they are detecting tethering. I think they are targeting people going beyond a certain threshold of usage as suspected tethereres (4gb or 5gb or more likely)
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i think its a scare tactic.
I don't think they are detecting tethering. I think they are targeting people going beyond a certain threshold of usage as suspected tethereres (4gb or 5gb or more likely)
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Just a scare tactic. I'm on my 11th day of this months cycle, and between tethering, mobile ap, and downloads, I'm sitting at 9gb of data usage and haven't heard anything from AT&T. Yet
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Just a scare tactic. I'm on my 11th day of this months cycle, and between tethering, mobile ap, and downloads, I'm sitting at 9gb of data usage and haven't heard anything from AT&T. Yet
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WOW what are you doing to use 9gb of data lol.
Even though i think its more of a scare tactic i think it can be done...its just not cost efficient to do it wide scale unless their is a huge red flag...like oh say 9gb of data usage . I won't be surprised if you get a letter if your usage rates continually reach anywhere near that later as i suspect that is the type of red flag that may cause them to actually take the time to audit the account and look at the ttl/packet data more closely.
if you have a 2gb or even unlimited and tether never going over 2gb i seriously doubt you would received letter or raise an eyebrow.
This goes back to my initial thought on how stupid their marketing team and management decisions are.
ALLOW FREE TETHERING
Pay for the extra data you need. It breaks down to the same cost...they are just being short sighted and greedy hoping people will think oh...2gb more data for 20bucks and then continue to not even fully use the 2gb they already had paid for on their smartphones plan (they are playing on peoples ignorance of how much data they are actually using). Part of good business and sales is fitting the client with their needs so they can afford it and continue to be a good longterm customer rather than bilking them for services they don't need or use (much like requiring all smartphones to have data plans when some smartphone users could be completely happy with a smartphone and wifi only usage).
If i have $25 2gb plan and want to tether and don't go over 2gb DON'T CHARGE EXTRA or REQUIRE TETHERING. If i go over charge me by the GB just like you would if i used all the data on my smartphones. 2gb Plan + 2gb overage =$45 for that months data (shouldn't matter whether it was used tethered or untethered). If i have a 2gb plan and tether and only use 3gb for the plan why not allow my to pay for 3gb data instead of forcing me to pay for 4gb/tethering. Let people police and pay for their usage. DATA IS DATA and it doesn't cost more for att to deliver 4gb to a tethered user than it does to someone using the 4gb downloading torrents or streaming movies on their smartphone.
Seems like it would be great customer relations, marketing, and a blow to verizon if ATT and came out with a marketing campaign that said Free Mobile AP/Tethering. Use as much data as you need....pay for the data you use. If those still grandfathered under unlimited plans are the concern you could easily audit those accounts if the usage is excessive and either throttle or require tethering for unlimited plans only which might encourage more people to give up the unlimited and take one of the tiered plans. They talk about tethers using all the data while i suspect those doing a combination of significant streaming and downloading torrent using in an untethered state.
A good question is why is one industry being allowed wipe their A** with net neutrality (with so little backlash)
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WOW what are you doing to use 9gb of data lol.
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Lol, I just opened my own auto shop, and we have yet to get internet hooked up in there, so I'm tethered to my desktop there for about 5-8 hours a day. I wouldn't be surprised if I do hear from AT&T, but they can't do anything to me. They've tried before and I fought them and won. I have unlimited text and data and I'm going to use it to my advantage. If they want to try and blow smoke up my ass, go for it. I'll blow it right back
Funny how this coincided with the new bandwidth cap for cable customers... AT&T is slowly trying to eliminate all unlimited customers. I wish they spent as much time working on increasing signal strength across the US as they do finding ways to squeeze more money from their customers.
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Just a scare tactic. I'm on my 11th day of this months cycle, and between tethering, mobile ap, and downloads, I'm sitting at 9gb of data usage and haven't heard anything from AT&T. Yet
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I thought my 3 -4 gb / month was a lot.
Isn't a byte of data still a byte of data no matter how you view your porn.
what they are doing with tethering would be akin charging us $10 per month to use google navigation.
They could say "hey our navigation per att nav with your device is $10 per month.....if you want to use navigation on your phone you must have a navigation plan add on and if you try to use another free navigation program we can tell and will change your plan without your permission"
I don't get any letters, but I get a "friendly call" from AT&T about every other month asking why I use so much data. I've been on unlimited since it first came out and I'm taking full advantage of it. When I get the call about my usage, I start downloading on my phone, just to eat more data. I've downloaded several ISOs of Linux distros and MS ISOs from the MSDN. Is it my fault I signed up for 'unlimited data' or is it there fault they didn't look into the future? ComCast tried to complain when I pulled down over 300gb in a month and wanted to charge me for it. Sent off a copy of the original contract and there was no bandwidth cap in it. It becomes a breach of contract if you haven't physically signed anything new accepting and agreeing to the new changes.
If you don't mind switching carriers (which isn't that attractive because they all suck and use the same ploys pretty much)
but if they change your plan (for example adding a tethering plan to your account) you have 30 days to cancel your contract WITHOUT penalty no matter how many months you have remaining.
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If you don't mind switching carriers (which isn't that attractive because they all suck and use the same ploys pretty much)
but if they change your plan (for example adding a tethering plan to your account) you have 30 days to cancel your contract WITHOUT penalty no matter how many months you have remaining.
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This is true. You can avoid any early termination fees and essentially end your contract in good standing credit wise.
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I don't get any letters, but I get a "friendly call" from AT&T about every other month asking why I use so much data. I've been on unlimited since it first came out and I'm taking full advantage of it. When I get the call about my usage, I start downloading on my phone, just to eat more data. I've downloaded several ISOs of Linux distros and MS ISOs from the MSDN. Is it my fault I signed up for 'unlimited data' or is it there fault they didn't look into the future? ComCast tried to complain when I pulled down over 300gb in a month and wanted to charge me for it. Sent off a copy of the original contract and there was no bandwidth cap in it. It becomes a breach of contract if you haven't physically signed anything new accepting and agreeing to the new changes.
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For every time they call and ask you you should place 20 calls to their customer support line asking them why someone called you again and telling them you just wanted to make sure they knew you had an unlimited data plan because someone keeps calling.
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Lol, I just opened my own auto shop, and we have yet to get internet hooked up in there, so I'm tethered to my desktop there for about 5-8 hours a day. I wouldn't be surprised if I do hear from AT&T, but they can't do anything to me. They've tried before and I fought them and won. I have unlimited text and data and I'm going to use it to my advantage. If they want to try and blow smoke up my ass, go for it. I'll blow it right back
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I'm sorry, but this attitude just rubs me raw. Cell phones were never designed to be ISPs. It's abusers like you that have made it hard for the rest of us by forcing AT$T to eliminate unlimited plans and by slowing down the network with your extreme usage. Why do so many feel the need to squeeze whatever they can however they can out of a company? If you think they're screwing you then simply take your business elsewhere.
People receiving the letter today are iphone users? am i correct? Did any android user receive it?
Posting this here since it's specific to the Inspire, but it applies to AT&T's smart phone policy in general. I'm looking for input from those of you who have managed to somehow get your data plans grandfathered successfully.
Here's the deal.
After some 6 years with Cingular/AT&T, four years of which were off contract while using a Kaiser (not a Tilt) and HD2 (Telstra) I upgraded last month to the Inspire. While I have no beef with the phone, I do have a problem with the data plan.
My problem is this. I'm 'Goldilocks'. I need a plan that's "juuuust right" for me, but AT&T is hammering me into one of three cubbyholes, none of which fit my needs.
I have spent over two hours on the phone over the past couple weeks with line reps and one supervisor to explain to them that for those 4 years I was on a MEdia Net unlimited plan at $20/month, never did I exceed 200MB of data. In fact, there were months when I used no data or text at all, but still paid for the plan. But my concern is that I can see exceeding 200MB/month on occasion with the new phone, therefore my point to them is that they should let me use the MEdia Net plan, or risk losing my account entirely.
So after all that time on the phone and almost two weeks of waiting for them to see what they were going to do, they 'Grandfathered' me into a $30/month unlimited data plan with no text.
Now, I don't mind paying another $5/month more than I used to, to cover myself for up to 2Gig of data, though I doubt I'd ever use that much. For my usage pattern, 2Gig is virtually unlimited to me. But I have no messaging units and I resent spending $10 for 1000 messages when I only use about 20 or so per month.
What I'd be perfectly content with is $25/month for 2Gig and 200 (or even just 50!) messages. But none of the rocket scientists there can figure out how to make it happen. Interestingly enough, Tmobile is offering $80/month with unlimited data, unlimited voice and unlimited texting.
So, here I am with these choices:
1) Take the $25/month plan and just tell my friends to not text me as much anymore.
2) Take the $30/month unlimited plan and use the crap out of it just for spite.
3) Tell AT&T to go pound salt, return the phone, revert to my MEdia Net plan and use my Kaiser until I go with Tmobile at $80 unlimited for voice/data/text and get the upcoming HTC Sensation
Hoping y'all have some advice for me.
Thanks!
Sign up for the 200mb plan. If you exceed your data, you can retroactively upgrade to the 2gig plan for $25 and not pay any overage.
And then you can lower it down to the 200mb plan for the next billing cycle.
Edit, also, with unlimited data from tmobile, you get 2gigs of full speed data, after which you are throttled until the end of the billing cycle.
I was with Cingular when it started and then AT&T when they bought 'em. I was lucky enough when my wife and I got our first iPhone 3g's we got the unlimited plan. At that time, texting was included. A few years later, while upgrading our phones...they told us that the unlimited data would stay the same, but we would have to pay for the texting...so we got the Unlimited Texting Family Plan. Its a few dollars more, but well worth it.
I say go for it!
Get the 2 gig plan for 25...its 10 bux for each gig after...So what...... i pay 5 dollars a month for 200 text messages. I can still see that offer when I hit upgrade.
Perhaps the bigger question is why do you need a smart phone since you don't want to pay for the best features. Internet, email, texting....
harlenm said:
Sign up for the 200mb plan. If you exceed your data, you can retroactively upgrade to the 2gig plan for $25 and not pay any overage.
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Only partially correct. Here it is, straight from the AT&T website:
On the 200MB plan:
DataPlus 200MB for Smartphone includes 200MB. Once 200MB is exceeded, an additional 200MB is automatically provided at a rate of $15 for each additional 200MB provided. Unused data usage does not carry over. For HSPA+/4G SmartPhones ONLY.
On the 2G Plan:
DataPro 2GB for HSPA+/4G Smartphone includes 2GB. Once 2GB is exceeded, an additional 1GB is automatically provided at a rate of $10 for each additional 1GB provided. Unused data usage does not carry over. For HSPA+/4G SmartPhones ONLY.
So, you're right, but only as it applies to the 2Gig plan at $25/month.
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Perhaps the bigger question is why do you need a smart phone since you don't want to pay for the best features. Internet, email, texting....
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Maybe you missed my point. I am willing pay for data. In fact, if anything, I have overpaid. My problem is that I'll probably use a bit more than the $15 plan, but not as much as the $25 plan. I wouldn't even mind it so much if they bumped me automatically to the 2G plan and charged me an extra $15 on those months where I go over the 200MB base plan. But it's the little 'scumbaggy' business of giving the modest users the shaft. Does the first byte of data over 200MB cost any more to deliver than the first byte of data over 2 Gig? Of course not. Yet they charge $15/200MB (7.5 cents/meg) for those on the base plan, and $10/GIG (ONE CENT PER MEG!!!) for those on the 2G plan. I'd really like to hear the explanation for how they justify charging nearly EIGHT TIMES the rate per meg for data overages from one plan as opposed to the other.
I work for an AT&T Authorized Reseller. IMHO take the $30 Data package if you are offered it.
As long as you can keep the Unlimited Package use the crap out of it. It really is true from what I see that the overwhelming majority (not on XDA of course) will never approach the 2GB threshold. If, however, you want to use your phone for something other than Facebook and TXTing having the Grandfatherd $30 Unlimited is SOOO worth it!
Even if you returned the phone at this point, you would be in for a hella battle with Customer Service to get your MediaNet Unlimited re-instated. In retrospect I would have purchased the phone outright without anyone touching your account. You may not have had "4G" provisioned on your phone, but thats what WiFi's are for.
Hope this helps a little ...
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I work for an AT&T Authorized Reseller. IMHO take the $30 Data package if you are offered it... As long as you can keep the Unlimited Package use the crap out of it...
In retrospect I would have purchased the phone outright without anyone touching your account...
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Ah, an expert authority!
Yes, the unlimited plan at $30 is an option in my 'features' section in the web account manager.
Well, here's the deal. I can still return the phone, revert to my previous plan by using my Kaiser, then next month go with Tmobile and an HTC Sensation for $80 a month for unlimted data/text/talk. And since AT&T will be buying Tmoble shortly, I'll have the benefit of the expanded network when customer accounts are migrated.
Does that make sense in your experience, or am I overthinking this?
I gotta say with your story I would return the phone and wait for the sensation. Don't get me wrong the inspire is the best phone I have ever owned and I love it but if I had the choice to revert to my captivate for a couple months and didn't have a family plan with ATT I would be gone. Tmobile has faster hspa and has way higher customer satisfaction not to mention that the sensation is gonna be the best thing out, and will probably stay that way for a while. And to top it all off this time next year your quad band sensation, that's assuming that's what tmobile is getting, you will have the benefit of two networks combined. Look at this way, no matter what you do u will be with ATT this time next year lol.
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BillTheCat said:
Ah, an expert authority!
Yes, the unlimited plan at $30 is an option in my 'features' section in the web account manager.
Well, here's the deal. I can still return the phone, revert to my previous plan by using my Kaiser, then next month go with Tmobile and an HTC Sensation for $80 a month for unlimted data/text/talk. And since AT&T will be buying Tmoble shortly, I'll have the benefit of the expanded network when customer accounts are migrated.
Does that make sense in your experience, or am I overthinking this?
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Just noticing you live in Milford .... g'luck with TMobile there. Check with a friend who has them how decent the service is for them.
Huge fan of Tmobile and Sprints pricing ... but living the past few years in cities that are sub-metropolitan areas their service is spotty at best.
Also, going with the $30 Unlm Smartphone Data and Rooting your Inspire you will have the ability to WiFi Hotspot your android device w/o AT&T caching on (as long as you are not using it excessively). Don't use to stream Netflix on the old Laptop, but excellent for iPad or Nook use.
Hope this is helpful as this is my 10th post so I may now comment in the Dev Forms.
Happy Rooting!!!
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Just noticing you live in Milford .... g'luck with TMobile there. Check with a friend who has them how decent the service is for them.
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Point taken, but I have a 10MB cablemodem connection and wifi at home, so I'm pretty much covered in the voice/data department. Already rooted and running RCMix 5.9.x so wifi router is there, though I have to admit I haven't bothered testing it yet.
Anyway, you make sense. Utica, huh? Still got snow up there?
Sadly snowed this morning ... thought about crying.
If/when you get bored with that ROM consider the MIUI ROM. Battery life is recently meh but it so much fun... screams like an eagle and purrs like a kitten ... feels like an iPhone OS without the awful and has widgets and folders!
Enjoy!
This PSA brought to you by an angry loser with nothing better to do! :angel:
Just to make everything clear and said at least once in every T-Mobile device forum, SimpleMobile is not the best choice when it comes to plans in the $60 range!
For the same amount of money you can get T-Mo Monthly 4G Unlimited Talk/Text with 2gig 4G data. Of course you will be throttled once you pass that 2gig mark, but at least you will still have data!
Recently I was on vacation for a week and found myself with lots of free time in cars or in the evenings. So needless to say queue up the Netflix, Pandora and YouTube I did! All was well with the blazing and expanded 4G footprint of T-Mo, I was like a pig in 3 week old s-it! 5 days of that ticked up a 2gig data total. Right on time comes an angry text message "Your SimpleMobile Data service is at risk of being suspended due to violation of terms and conditions. Call..blahblah so we can say that we hate you."
"Bring it, you prepaid a-holes!" I thought to myself.
I'm throttled to a crawl, but I can always just switch to 2G data only! Download this, download that, torrent this, leave pandora on as often as possible.. All this plus more was my goal! What did I have to lose? I'm on a prepaid plan, what are they going to do!? .. Famous last words, they say.
One day later, the final warning message was shot "Your SimpleMobile Data service is suspended due to violation of terms and conditions. Call..blahblah so we can say how you've hurt our feelings."
Messaging > Compose > 848484 > Info . . 1 new message! "Activation date 6/10/12 ReUp by 7/10/12. Plan: $60 Unlimited Talk, Text and 4G Data. Usage: 129 min, 2708 Text, Data 2753.807 MB"
Ah, what a feeling of great triumph. I nearly manage a gig of extra and probably miscounted data before they could shut me down! (I mean come on, how can you download that much on Edge!?)
/end rant lol. I am COMPLETELY dataless now. I can't even send or receive MMS at the moment. Next weeks adventure: Straight Talk! Tune in next week same time and same place!
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Just about the same thing happened to me on simple mobile. They say its unlimited, but like every other prepaid company they will reserve the right to suspend or terminate your data if you "violate their terms & conditions."
After that happened, I made the switch to T-mobile pre-paid $70 plan. Up to 5gb at 4G, which is great because now I know I can tether, watch videos, stream music, or whatever I want for just 10 bucks more than simple mobile's gimmicky scheme they got going.
I'm fixing to go to a Tmo store and see if I can get a prepaid sim cheap for a few days. I am STILL waiting on my straight talk sim and my SimpleMobile crippled plan is about to expire. I figure that I'll just pay as I go on one of those daily plans until I get the Straight Talk up and going. That way if I hate Straight Talk too, I can just go to Monthly 4G on Tmo.
I've had this happen to me before, too. My first week with Simple Mobile I had used up 3GB of data and they completely cut me off as well. Server side, too. I called and called, but there was nothing I can do. They told me I violated their terms and conditions. They tried to tell me Pandora and youtube violate their terms and conditions. B.S.! I used my device as I normally would have! That's just how I roll...
Does anyone know if these are grounds for a class action suit against Simple, seeing as they advertise "Unlimited High Speed Data", yet they start cutting you off after you hit 2 Gigs. 2,048MB is not even CLOSE to infinity!
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I've had this happen to me before, too. My first week with Simple Mobile I had used up 3GB of data and they completely cut me off as well. Server side, too. I called and called, but there was nothing I can do. They told me I violated their terms and conditions. They tried to tell me Pandora and youtube violate their terms and conditions. B.S.! I used my device as I normally would have! That's just how I roll...
Does anyone know if these are grounds for a class action suit against Simple, seeing as they advertise "Unlimited High Speed Data", yet they start cutting you off after you hit 2 Gigs. 2,048MB is not even CLOSE to infinity!
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I think we're more or less stuck.. It's kind of like accepting the terms and conditions to any Apple service, you're screwed
I have got my straight talk up and working, but I don't live in a 3G area so I won't be able to test it any time soon.
Resurrecting an old thread...
This is my first month with Simple ($40 "unlimited" 3G.) But caps aren't a problem for me. My month is up next week and so far I've only used 353 MB. Starting today, Simple's $40 plan will also include 250 MB at 4G before throttling down to 3G/EDGE/whatever. Anyways, the reason I'm raising this thread from the dead is because SM's website says "**4G High Speed Data available only on HSPA+ compatible phones." Seeing as our phones are HSDPA, what speeds should I expect? Would I even notice an improvement? (Currently getting 300 Kb/s down and up on what they call a 3G network.)
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This is my first month with Simple ($40 "unlimited" 3G.) But caps aren't a problem for me. My month is up next week and so far I've only used 353 MB. Starting today, Simple's $40 plan will also include 250 MB at 4G before throttling down to 3G/EDGE/whatever. Anyways, the reason I'm raising this thread from the dead is because SM's website says "**4G High Speed Data available only on HSPA+ compatible phones." Seeing as our phones are HSDPA, what speeds should I expect? Would I even notice an improvement? (Currently getting 300 Kb/s down and up on what they call a 3G network.)
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I just bought a 99c Simple Mobile SIM, and plan on activating a T989 on the $40 "unlimited" plan. I'll likely use less than 2GB per month, not really sure. I'm expecting that the $40 plan (w 250MB 4G, then throttle) is the same as the $50 plan from T-Mo (w 100MB 4G, then throttle, right?
Tmo $30 5GB 4G plan was great for data, but not for VOIP. Just couldn't seem to get GrooveIP or Talkatone or SIP working well enough to keep the plan.
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I just bought a 99c Simple Mobile SIM, and plan on activating a T989 on the $40 "unlimited" plan. I'll likely use less than 2GB per month, not really sure. I'm expecting that the $40 plan (w 250MB 4G, then throttle) is the same as the $50 plan from T-Mo (w 100MB 4G, then throttle, right?
Tmo $30 5GB 4G plan was great for data, but not for VOIP. Just couldn't seem to get GrooveIP or Talkatone or SIP working well enough to keep the plan.
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I wouldn't go so far to say Simple's 4G/3G is the same as T-Mobile's 4G/3G. They (Simple) are most likely throttling more than T-Mobile would. I'm not sure if my ~300 Kb/s on Simple can even be called "3G"
Yea they're dicks, I've been with them now for a year using their 3g plan. Never got **** for data usage... go onto 4g (to try out) and they threatened to chop off my ding dong if I went over the 2gb limit. My solution... go back to 3g and not get **** from them
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I just bought a 99c Simple Mobile SIM, and plan on activating a T989 on the $40 "unlimited" plan. I'll likely use less than 2GB per month, not really sure. I'm expecting that the $40 plan (w 250MB 4G, then throttle) is the same as the $50 plan from T-Mo (w 100MB 4G, then throttle, right?
Tmo $30 5GB 4G plan was great for data, but not for VOIP. Just couldn't seem to get GrooveIP or Talkatone or SIP working well enough to keep the plan.
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I was on a 2 gig then throttle plan with t-mo, we had a falling out and settled, part of which was them putting me into their new unlimited 4g.
Over ten gigs thus far and no throttle, when it shows up on my bill in a few cycles it'll be $20 a month for real unlimited.
No sure if simple is throttling the same way t-mo did, but I noticed you talking about a big t-mo plan for data, just go with unlimited for $20 and you'll be straight.
Simple Mobile Cass Action Law Suit
Simple Mobile Unlimited Data Scam
I would like to be the one to start the process of finding people with this same issue of FRAUD committed by SIMPLE MOBILE. My story is of very similar nature.
The attached link is a u-tube video that shows the same frustration we have all been going through.
w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=UjvvMHADHVw
If I pay in full for a full month up front for a service plan that promotes and promises an unlimited (infinite) data usage , I expect to get what I paid for. If such service is taken away from me before my paid month is complete, from the company it was purchased from, with no real explanation and all money was kept without any refund; I BELIEVE THIS IS CALLED STEALING!!!
If a company sells you something and you receive less of that something you were told you would receive, that is fraud.
Fraud and stealing is illegal.!!!!
Suspending an "unlimited" data service for the reason of "over usage". This deception is called fraud!!!
If you have been deceived by Simple Mobile's "unlimited" LIMITED service and would like to be part of a class action law suit to help show them how wrong it is to steal from their own customers; Please e-mail: [email protected]
nandesho said:
This PSA brought to you by an angry loser with nothing better to do! :angel:
Just to make everything clear and said at least once in every T-Mobile device forum, SimpleMobile is not the best choice when it comes to plans in the $60 range!
For the same amount of money you can get T-Mo Monthly 4G Unlimited Talk/Text with 2gig 4G data. Of course you will be throttled once you pass that 2gig mark, but at least you will still have data!
Recently I was on vacation for a week and found myself with lots of free time in cars or in the evenings. So needless to say queue up the Netflix, Pandora and YouTube I did! All was well with the blazing and expanded 4G footprint of T-Mo, I was like a pig in 3 week old s-it! 5 days of that ticked up a 2gig data total. Right on time comes an angry text message "Your SimpleMobile Data service is at risk of being suspended due to violation of terms and conditions. Call..blahblah so we can say that we hate you."
"Bring it, you prepaid a-holes!" I thought to myself.
I'm throttled to a crawl, but I can always just switch to 2G data only! Download this, download that, torrent this, leave pandora on as often as possible.. All this plus more was my goal! What did I have to lose? I'm on a prepaid plan, what are they going to do!? .. Famous last words, they say.
One day later, the final warning message was shot "Your SimpleMobile Data service is suspended due to violation of terms and conditions. Call..blahblah so we can say how you've hurt our feelings."
Messaging > Compose > 848484 > Info . . 1 new message! "Activation date 6/10/12 ReUp by 7/10/12. Plan: $60 Unlimited Talk, Text and 4G Data. Usage: 129 min, 2708 Text, Data 2753.807 MB"
Ah, what a feeling of great triumph. I nearly manage a gig of extra and probably miscounted data before they could shut me down! (I mean come on, how can you download that much on Edge!?)
/end rant lol. I am COMPLETELY dataless now. I can't even send or receive MMS at the moment. Next weeks adventure: Straight Talk! Tune in next week same time and same place!
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