Probably a stupid question but why do I have so little ram showing? Right now I have 531 in total according to this:
Shouldn't it be nearer a gig?
No. The OS uses a good amount of it. As it should.
If you want to see more info on the memory, download an app called 'Quick System Info' free from the market.
I love how Asus included a screen capture utility with the Transformer. How do you use it to take a shot?
wynand32 said:
I love how Asus included a screen capture utility with the Transformer. How do you use it to take a shot?
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Settings>Screen>check screenshot box ... hold the task button to capture.
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Settings>Screen>check screenshot box ... hold the task button to capture.
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Awesome, thanks!
I noticed this too.
I downloaded and installed Quick System Info, but that shows total RAM as being 729MB !!!!!!!!!!!!
I spoke to Asus support about this, who didn't really have a clue! The girl there confirmed that their 1GB test model also showed the same RAM under settings (531ish), but didn't have quick system info.
She reckoned that the OS would be using the rest, although I didn't believe this. Surely system info would still report the RAM that the OS has reserved, but just show it as unavailable? Also, 295MB sounds like a lot for the OS to steal. They'd have no chance of installing Honeycomb on phones, that often only have 256 - 512Mb total RAM to start with!
She then tried to blame it on the different calculations that they use to calculate Gigabytes. This is usually down to taking 1mb to be 1000 kb, rather than 1024kb. To lose 295Mb out of 1024 would have to be one seriously optimistic calculation!
Anyway, if anybody can come up with a proper answer to this, I would like to know where the RAM has gone.
Does anybody have a Xoom to compare to? Surely that should show the same.
Don't forget that the GPU will be wanting some of that RAM as well, so we can maybe expect 128mb of ram to the GPU.
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For the technically minded, this post should clear things up!
Regards,
Dave
Cool thanks
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For the technically minded, this post should clear things up!
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this post illustrate users and vendors story on Memory Free when its sold, and when enduser buy it.
Like getting a 1000GB Hardrive, you never get 1000GB out of it.
in our case the kernel can be configured to allocate what memory block size is allocated for gpu and vm.
but before all this happens, you machine do ineed have 1024MB memory.
I just double checked. This issue is also present on the Xoom.
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I think we need to rally as a community against samsung and att for lying about the memory in the captivate.
Sounds like a waste of money. They never said 512MB FREE FOR YOU TO TOTALLY USE!
Or else every Android phone and their companies should get sued.
A lot of your memory is being used by the OS, system cache and more. Have you ever really ran out of memory? I haven't.
Android is basically designed to never run out of memory; as it stores all programs in memory to load faster - it also ends "not in use" programs as soon as more RAM is needed for a new application.
When I buy something and it says it has "such and such" RAM, I never expect to be able to actually use it all. I sure wish OS's and hardware didn't need RAM to run.... and besides, 300 Megs free for personal use is more than enough for a hand held device to run. Even if I loaded my entire list of apps into the ram I would still have room.
Surely the first post was "tongue in cheek"
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You will never have 300 megs for "personal use." A fresh kill of all apps gives me 123MBs free. I run out of memory all the time. Just today I was using the youtube app and browser and it totally locked up until I manually closed some programs.
Being that pc manufacturers have been doing this for years with on board video (and they even double do by starting the ram and the vram), you would never have a chance.
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Did Samsung/ATT ever say that you would have 512MB of memory available to the user? If they did then I think you might have a case. But considering that Samsung went as far as creating videos explaining why the GT-I9000 doesn't show the whole 512MB (http://bit.ly/djxJ3r - guessing similar videos exist for the US variants), I don't think you'd stand a chance. Unless some sales rep. lied his/her way into a commission.
If you want something to go after them for, go after them for unreliable and often non-functional GPS that was not advertised as a crippled feature.
Even then, I would recommend waiting for the official Froyo release to give them enough chance to get a formal effort out there. I tend to think the OTA update that went out was more to turn off features AT&T doesn't want us to have for free (tethering) than it was a GPS fix. I hold the opinion that the GPS part was more of their work in progress that they tossed in there to get folks to want to give up their free tethering.
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Surely the first post was "tongue in cheek"
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With the way people complain and want to sue over everything nowadays it's really hard to tell. Sarcasm truly is lost when typed.
lol its just advertising, while it mte not be entirely true, they are still covered..
Nowhere in the OS (Eclair OR Froyo) does it ever break down memory that totals the 512MB mentioned on the packaging. In all versions I've used the total amount of memory available has been in the 300MB range. I understand on an intellectual level that the OS and other vital functions need to reside in some memory so it may not ever be "free," but I'd like to be assured by the software that that memory IS in fact being allocated and is not just a fictional number made up by Samsung advertising. for all I know the Captivate COULD only have the 300-ish MB that it claims and the OS uses up a portion of that. Also, there has got to be something fishy going on, because before 2.2, Android could NOT utilize 512MB of RAM, and from my understanding, would not even be able to display it had more then that. If this is true, then why is Froyo showing that it's using the same amount of the 300MB free that Eclair used? wouldn't it have SOME amount more free than the eclair version?
Either there is a bug with the memory (display or usage), or the Captivate does not have the memory it was advertised to have.
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You will never have 300 megs for "personal use." A fresh kill of all apps gives me 123MBs free. I run out of memory all the time. Just today I was using the youtube app and browser and it totally locked up until I manually closed some programs.
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Perhaps my first estimate was incorrect, but I just did a task kill and got 200 of my 305 available free, so I will correct myself and say 200 for "personal use" which I still think is more than enough. I have never had the browser crash except when trying to play flash games and I have never run out of memory, even when pausing playing a 720p video to check a flash heavy website, load up a few hundreds texts, and browse the gallery to show people pictures. I think android manages the memory quite well.
Other phones like the nexus 1 have the full 512mb available as advertised & have had it available on both 2.1 & 2.2 why is this different for us galaxy s users? Does it even say anywhere official that it is supposed to have 512mb it doesn't say that anywhere on the box or in anywhere in the included text or on att's website or samsungs. It doesn't say it doesn't either. I know this sounds disappointing but lets face the facts this phone isn't all that it was hyped up to be. Not to mention that it also claims it has gps but I have tried everything & have still never been able to lock on to a satellite for more than a couple of seconds.
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Yeah! And after that we can go after the base 1000 HDD scam too!
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Other phones like the nexus 1 have the full 512mb available as advertised & have had it available on both 2.1 & 2.2 why is this different for us galaxy s users? Does it even say anywhere official that it is supposed to have 512mb it doesn't say that anywhere on the box or in anywhere in the included text or on att's website or samsungs. It doesn't say it doesn't either. I know this sounds disappointing but lets face the facts this phone isn't all that it was hyped up to be. Not to mention that it also claims it has gps but I have tried everything & have still never been able to lock on to a satellite for more than a couple of seconds.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I897ZKAATT-features
scroll down halfway, on the right side of the screen:
16GB ROM/512MB RAM
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I think we need to rally as a community against samsung and att for lying about the memory in the captivate.
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Where is the lie? My phone is spec'd at having 512mb of RAM and 16GB flash memory. I have that.
Does your phone have something different?
If it does, you should return it and ask for a replacement or get a refund. What would a lawsuit accomplish? Were you harmed? Did the phone catch fire in your pocket due to this defect?
I bet Jackie Childs would take this case.
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Where is the lie? My phone is spec'd at having 512mb of RAM and 16GB flash memory. I have that.
Does your phone have something different?
If it does, you should return it and ask for a replacement or get a refund. What would a lawsuit accomplish? Were you harmed? Did the phone catch fire in your pocket due to this defect?
I bet Jackie Childs would take this case.
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Where in the OS does it tell you that you have 512MB of RAM?
I don't post unless absolutely necessary, but this thread has irritated me beyond the point.
How about, instead of whining about a memory problem when all that has been used on this phone so far is Eclair (no himem) and a LEAKED super-beta may-not-even-be-close-to-release Froyo, you either:
A) Stop trying to get a rise out of a community. Honestly, if we had as many hands on deck as we do cattle around here, the Captivate would be ::the:: phone to have, with many ROMs, mods, apps, etc.
B) Return your Captivate and never come back here again. No one misses whiners.
C) Actually understand that the reason why you dont see that much RAM is because the physical chip is 512MB RAM. Its not for you to use, and you could consider yourself lucky that a phone with as high of specs it has, just might have to use more RAM! I suggest you read RyanZA's thread on RFS and to explain to yourself how FSYNC and its security checks work with RAM.
D) I'm done. If you want to flame me about it, go ahead. But I'm sick and tired of people purchasing a phone then whining about it and threatening the lawyers when SOME people are perfectly content with this phone just how it is. Honestly. Go get an iPhone4 or wait for a Samsung Tab, or go get a Dell Streak and put Eclair on it. Just STOP whining.
No wonder the devs don't want to do work for this smartphone.
Good god..
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Where in the OS does it tell you that you have 512MB of RAM?
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It doesn't say it in the OS - but that doesn't mean it isn't there.
I guess the teardown sites could be fooled, and Samsung could be lying to everyone.
The most logical explanation to me, is that the 512MB is there - I don't think we have a 300ish MB chip.
I am 100% sure that i have 1gb ram on my nexus s. When i bought my phone from wind they said it has 1gb ram. When i use any application that shows ram its 1gb. Airdroid too. Is this possible or am i going crazy?
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I am 100% sure that i have 1gb ram on my nexus s. When i bought my phone from wind they said it has 1gb ram. When i use any application that shows ram its 1gb. Airdroid too. Is this possible or am i going crazy?
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a) you're crazy
or
b) you have a galaxy nexus instead of a nexus s
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I am 100% sure that i have 1gb ram on my nexus s. When i bought my phone from wind they said it has 1gb ram. When i use any application that shows ram its 1gb. Airdroid too. Is this possible or am i going crazy?
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Lucky! I supposedly have 512MB of RAM...Most ROMs Show that I have 382MB of RAM. So maybe its a misreading? I'm not too sure. 1024MB of RAM sure does sound nice...What about your CPU? 1.2GHz?
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a) you're crazy
or
b) you have a galaxy nexus instead of a nexus s
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Well both my parents have a galaxy nexus so i know mine doesn't look like that. And i rooted it with tuts on nexusshacks so I must be crazy. xD, I did get it very recently though so did they come out with a 1gb version afterwards?
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Lucky! I supposedly have 512MB of RAM...Most ROMs Show that I have 382MB of RAM. So maybe its a misreading? I'm not too sure. 1024MB of RAM sure does sound nice...What about your CPU? 1.2GHz?
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Well I am not using a rom , im stock and many apps and stuff say i have a full Gb. Also my cpu is 1GHz Samsung Hummingbird (ARM Cortex A8 + SGX 540) and everything else is exactly the same as everyone else , I have used my parents galaxy nexus's and they seem slower even though my parents don't install anything. Either way i just loooveee my phone. I guess im just lucky or something. (I got it from Wind Ca , that must be the secret)
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Well I am not using a rom , im stock and many apps and stuff say i have a full Gb. Also my cpu is 1GHz Samsung Hummingbird (ARM Cortex A8 + SGX 540) and everything else is exactly the same as everyone else , I have used my parents galaxy nexus's and they seem slower even though my parents don't install anything. Either way i just loooveee my phone. I guess im just lucky or something. (I got it from Wind Ca , that must be the secret)
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Any way of getting a screenshot?
Settings --> Apps --> Running --> xxxMB used / xxxMB free
Give me those two numbers. After this we can do more investigation.
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Any way of getting a screenshot?
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I could do a screenshot through airdroid. (It's an app to connect your phone to your computer)
tinypic,com/35a3h36,jpg <Change the commas to a periods
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Settings --> Apps --> Running --> xxxMB used / xxxMB free
Give me those two numbers. After this we can do more investigation.
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Strangely they are 263 and 80 which clearly dont add up to 512 or 1024, i swear that during ics it said that they were 1024 and apps still seem to from my screenshot above. And i remember the employee saying it had 1gb
343mb is a typical amount provided by stock, around 50mb+ is kept by the system (codecs or something from memory? bigmem ditches most of it) and the rest is used by the GPU, overall adding up to 512mb of RAM, which is what's in your phone
That link 404's on me, so another would be appreciated. If you have busybox, download that and type in terminal emulator/adb shell:
free -m
and let me know what the numbers are.
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343mb is a typical amount provided by stock, around 50mb+ is kept by the system (codecs or something from memory? bigmem ditches most of it) and the rest is used by the GPU, overall adding up to 512mb of RAM, which is what's in your phone
That link 404's on me, so another would be appreciated. If you have busybox, download that and type in terminal emulator/adb shell:
free -m
and let me know what the numbers are.
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Mem: 343 339 3 0 1
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Free indicates you have 343MB available (excluding reserved allocations). The pic you linked to is showing how much storage you have for apps, which is ~1GB. You'll see this in Settings --> Apps --> Downloaded --> Internal Storage (xxxMB Used, xxxMB Free). This is storage for apps you download from google play or sideload. Many of these can also be stored on the sdcard if you so choose.
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Free indicates you have 343MB available (excluding reserved allocations). The pic you linked to is showing how much storage you have for apps, which is ~1GB. You'll see this in Settings --> Apps --> Downloaded --> Internal Storage (xxxMB Used, xxxMB Free). This is storage for apps you download from google play or sideload. Many of these can also be stored on the sdcard if you so choose.
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ohh, i knew what the 2nd option was that makes sense now thanks.
I have a brand new TF300T that has not been rooted. We went to the Settings and looked at the Storage option. It says that my internal storage is 12.59GB, not the 16GB I was expecting.
Now, I understand that when a hard drive is formatted, it does not have all the the amount available. 16GB should come out to maybe 15.5GB available.
I returned it to Best Buy and exchanged it for another one. This one reports the same thing?
Ideas?
I have attached a screen shot.
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I have a brand new TF300T that has not been rooted. We went to the Settings and looked at the Storage option. It says that my internal storage is 12.59GB, not the 16GB I was expecting.
Now, I understand that when a hard drive is formatted, it does not have all the the amount available. 16GB should come out to maybe 15.5GB available.
I returned it to Best Buy and exchanged it for another one. This one reports the same thing?
Ideas?
I have attached a screen shot.
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16gig=12.59gig - yours
32gig = 26.38gig - mine
looks ok to me
tobdaryl said:
16gig=12.59gig - yours
32gig = 26.38gig - mine
looks ok to me
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That looks like 3.5GB not available. Whenever I format a regular HD for my computer, it NEVER loses that much space.
Can you show me a website where you got this info?
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That looks like 3.5GB not available. Whenever I format a regular HD for my computer, it NEVER loses that much space.
Can you show me a website where you got this info?
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I didn't get it from a website.
The one that says yours is what you reported.
The one that says mine is form my unit settings.
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I didn't get it from a website.
The one that says yours is what you reported.
The one that says mine is form my unit settings.
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OK? But is it normal to lose 20+% of the hard drive when it is formatted? It seems very excessive.
I would like to see a chart somewhere that tells me how much space I should have available to me on various sized hard drives. Any ideas where I might get something like that?
The OS and pre-installed apps are using part of that 16GB. It isn't reported in the storage screen because you don't have access to it.
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OK? But is it normal to lose 20+% of the hard drive when it is formatted? It seems very excessive.
I would like to see a chart somewhere that tells me how much space I should have available to me on various sized hard drives. Any ideas where I might get something like that?
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I'll provide one link, there are many. Take some of the info with a salt shaker full.
My understanding is one gig is 1074mb not 1024mb as memory chips and drives are sold. This is part of the loss, built in by the method used to determine reported size.
I can setup a 1074mb (not 1024mb) partition as swap and it is listed a 1gig, 1024mb is listed as 1024mb not 1gig. Swap is not formatted.
Other variables enter into the equation as well.
Maybe this will help or at least cause you to continue the search.
Good Luck!:good:
This was my search string.
justasiam said:
That looks like 3.5GB not available. Whenever I format a regular HD for my computer, it NEVER loses that much space.
dont forget about /system and /cache.
never heard of partitioning?
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These are very valid points. I had forgotten about partitioning. Thanks for your insights here guys. My brain must be clouded from this freaking flu I have.
Was fed up with my Htc One camera tint issue and got this yesterday. Just finished 1 full day with the Exynos version this evening, thought id share my experience here which should help other people.
Iv created a quick post on my blog here http://nerdict.com/first-day-impressions-samsung-galaxy-note-3-exynos-5420/
Im still waiting to get my hands on galaxy gear in my city but im less keen to get the 1st generations of it
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Thanks for this. I just finished chargidng mine. Im gonna root and start freezing all the bloatware
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Thanks for this. I just finished chargidng mine. Im gonna root and start freezing all the bloatware
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I guess u have the Snapdragon version? I dont see any recovery or root methods for my Exynos..
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I see you have black version . Can you please tell me if problem with notification led color is still there in black version ? (if you will download led color tester app you will try colors like cyan or white you will see led light of bad color ((3 colors in one )) white version of S3 S4 N2 didnt had this problem but black allways had )
thank you for your reply
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I see you have black version . Can you please tell me if problem with notification led color is still there in black version ? (if you will download led color tester app you will try colors like cyan or white you will see led light of bad color ((3 colors in one )) white version of S3 S4 N2 didnt had this problem but black allways had )
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Nop, its still the same as my grey Note2. Cyan is a mix of green and blue. Yellow is completely green and with a bit of yellow.
White is red, green and blue.
Attached the pic of yellow which shows green. Sorry for bad quality pic. I only have my wife's iphone as cam.
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I guess u have the Snapdragon version? I dont see any recovery or root methods for my Exynos..
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Yesh. Its snapdragon.
I really like the Note 3 but it is too big for me (although I have S4 ) and I don't use the S-Pen on daily basis so it has no use for me.
Hope you enjoy it!
Interesting blog post, but I think you misunderstand how Android works when it comes to RAM. It's not that the device is "RAM hungry", it's that it never releases RAM unless it needs to. That's why after running a few apps, nearly all of the available RAM is used. But this is ok, this just means that when you swap back to those apps, they're instantly available. When you open another app, the oldest app in memory is silently killed to free up the necessary RAM.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure the system is using up more than an average amount to account for the multitasking stuff alone, but saying that after a few apps have been used it's using 2.3GB of memory is a bit misleading. It may as well use that RAM, or what's the point in having it?
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Interesting blog post, but I think you misunderstand how Android works when it comes to RAM. It's not that the device is "RAM hungry", it's that it never releases RAM unless it needs to. That's why after running a few apps, nearly all of the available RAM is used. But this is ok, this just means that when you swap back to those apps, they're instantly available. When you open another app, the oldest app in memory is silently killed to free up the necessary RAM.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure the system is using up more than an average amount to account for the multitasking stuff alone, but saying that after a few apps have been used it's using 2.3GB of memory is a bit misleading. It may as well use that RAM, or what's the point in having it?
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This is something most android users fail to grasp. :good:
Understandably of course since most of us use windows or other platforms, with less memory sometimes means better performance. But memory in general is there to be USED not the opposite.
neoKushan said:
Interesting blog post, but I think you misunderstand how Android works when it comes to RAM. It's not that the device is "RAM hungry", it's that it never releases RAM unless it needs to. That's why after running a few apps, nearly all of the available RAM is used. But this is ok, this just means that when you swap back to those apps, they're instantly available. When you open another app, the oldest app in memory is silently killed to free up the necessary RAM.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure the system is using up more than an average amount to account for the multitasking stuff alone, but saying that after a few apps have been used it's using 2.3GB of memory is a bit misleading. It may as well use that RAM, or what's the point in having it?
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Yup i agree. But the amount of Ram used on my One and Note 2 was much less. Im sure there are some background processes goin on other than the open apps.
Ill post a screenshot of open apps vs ram as soon as i get to my office wifi..
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NIce Review...
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Yup i agree. But the amount of Ram used on my One and Note 2 was much less. Im sure there are some background processes goin on other than the open apps.
Ill post a screenshot of open apps vs ram as soon as i get to my office wifi..
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Here, screenshot of open apps and available RAM attached..
The only negative of ram used is power drawn else ram used is good. I remember when people were complaining that vista used ram all the while the machine ran smoother over all as programs were loaded into ram instead of much slower HDD.
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I have some questions.
1. Whats is Actual Internal storage size? 18GB? :crying:
2. Tried disabling bloat from all all application in Application manager? How much RAM can u free up?
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I have some questions.
1. Whats is Actual Internal storage size? 18GB? :crying:
2. Tried disabling bloat from all all application in Application manager? How much RAM can u free up?
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Just for the record its 23.43gb free
jutley said:
Just for the record its 23.43gb free
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Dat sounds better. At least...
stanley08 said:
I have some questions.
1. Whats is Actual Internal storage size? 18GB? :crying:
2. Tried disabling bloat from all all application in Application manager? How much RAM can u free up?
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1) - 32GB internal with 6GB allotted to system. Currently have 24.58GB available on mine.
2) - Disabled a few. 1.6GB ram on boot.
If i do not even use the device or open any apps, after about 30 mins the ram goes up to 2.0 or 2.1GB unnecessarily..
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1) - 32GB internal with 6GB allotted to system. Currently have 24.58GB available on mine.
2) - Disabled a few. 1.6GB ram on boot.
If i do not even use the device or open any apps, after about 30 mins the ram goes up to 2.0 or 2.1GB unnecessarily..
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Thanks for this mate. I guess 24.58GB is decent enough (coming from an S4 with only 8.90GB), though i'm guessing you have the SM-9005 snapdragon as someone said his has 23GB+ earlier.
And when root methods come, or custom ROMs, RAM usage will change.
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Thanks for this mate. I guess 24.58GB is decent enough (coming from an S4 with only 8.90GB), though i'm guessing you have the SM-9005 snapdragon as someone said his has 23GB+ earlier.
And when root methods come, or custom ROMs, RAM usage will change.
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Nop i have the Exynos version..
I returned the HTC One before the 14 day return period, but for more reasons than just the camera. Battery life was terrible and non-expandable. There was no way I was going to stay tied to a charger. I liked the look of it, but after I stuck a case on it I realized what it looks like esthetically doesn't matter.
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Does the os really take up the much space?
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xXghostXx313 said:
Does the os really take up the much space?
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Yep, the OS and all the apps decompressed.
xXghostXx313 said:
Does the os really take up the much space?
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It has nothing to do with the OS. You will learn that the internal storage being advertised is not the amount of space you will get. This applies to sdcards, hard drives, anything. Even if you read on the OnePlus One box it will explain it to you in small text.
If you want to read more, see http://lifehacker.com/5950506/why-doesnt-my-new-hard-drive-show-the-right-amount-of-space
Hard Drives Are Measured One Way, But Marketed Another
Why Doesn't My New Hard Drive Show the Right Amount of Space?
Here's the bigger reason you have less space: computers are based on binary math, which means storage is counted using base 2—not base 10, which is what you see on the box. So, while we measure a kilobyte as 1,000 bytes, Windows actually refers to a kilobyte as 1,024 bytes. Similarly, a megabyte is actually 1,024 kilobytes, a gigabyte is 1,024 megabytes, and so on. That means the actual amount of space on the drive is going to be lower than what you're told, with the difference being bigger as you get to bigger drives. In general, for each gigabyte reported on the box, you'll have about 70MB less space when you plug it in—which means that your 1TB drive has closer to 900GB as measured by Windows.
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zephiK said:
It has nothing to do with the OS. You will learn that the internal storage being advertised is not the amount of space you will get. This applies to sdcards, hard drives, anything. Even if you read on the OnePlus One box it will explain it to you in small text.
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Yea I know about the size not being actual 64gb but I thought the OS and apps were taking up to much space but its all good.
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xXghostXx313 said:
Yea I know about the size not being actual 64gb but I thought the OS and apps were taking up to much space but its all good.
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Oh your OP post was just a bit misleading/confusing ...... you can minimize the space it uses, a lot of the bloatware Google Apps are in the /system/ partition so it uses a lot of space on apps that you most likely won't even be using like Google Videos, Google Books, etc.
zephiK said:
It has nothing to do with the OS. You will learn that the internal storage being advertised is not the amount of space you will get. This applies to sdcards, hard drives, anything. Even if you read on the OnePlus One box it will explain it to you in small text.
If you want to read more, see http://lifehacker.com/5950506/why-doesnt-my-new-hard-drive-show-the-right-amount-of-space
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Why is it always like this? Kinda sucks Advertize 64Gb, but only get 54. Where did 10GB go?
I remember when SSD first came out: 80GB only gave you 60GB, but there was one company that actually advertised the correct amount when customers got theirs I forget the company name.
lemonspeakers said:
Why is it always like this? Kinda sucks Advertize 64Gb, but only get 54. Where did 10GB go?
I remember when SSD first came out: 80GB only gave you 60GB, but there was one company that actually advertised the correct amount when customers got theirs I forget the company name.
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I copy pasted a little snippet of a article on why its like that. But I agree, its crappy that its like that because you don't see the full amount. Yeah you could do the calculations and look it up on actual size but its definitely misleading.
apps space in one plus one
Can you please confirm how much space is reserved for apps? Or the entire storage less android system can be used please? Thanks and regards