Hi
I'm using Ultimate juice on my DS in order to save some battery. Ultimate juice was extremely good with both HTC Legend and Moto DEFY.
With the Desire S I keep loosing 3G signal so my schedule doesn't work. When I enter the log on Ultimate Juice I can see that the schedule starts but the data isn't enabled. BTW I'm also using 3G watchdog (free version)
Why does it loose 3G. I think it has to do with either Ultimate Juice or Watchdog. Are some of you having similar problems with the 3G reception
Best regards
CK
charlie_kilo said:
Hi
I'm using Ultimate juice on my DS in order to save some battery. Ultimate juice was extremely good with both HTC Legend and Moto DEFY.
With the Desire S I keep loosing 3G signal so my schedule doesn't work. When I enter the log on Ultimate Juice I can see that the schedule starts but the data isn't enabled. BTW I'm also using 3G watchdog (free version)
Why does it loose 3G. I think it has to do with either Ultimate Juice or Watchdog. Are some of you having similar problems with the 3G reception
Best regards
CK
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Also having that problem, it looses 3G and takes forever to get it back. And that in places were my Galaxy S had no problems. But I am not using any of the applications you use
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hey guy, has any one made an app that will put the phone on 2G if its using wifi and set 3G when wifi is off?
this kinda app would be great for saving battery!
hopefully some one is working on it or this post might inspire some one to do it.
cheers
So after the now infamous 4G outage I did notice one important thing on my TB. That day I had the best battery life ever. First time I made it through the day without charging. Hopefully sometime soon we will have an official 4G on/off toggle. I know there is one that takes you to the service menu so you can change the settings but it would be nice to have one that you can just toggle 4G off to 3G then toggle back on without the extra steps.
I'm pretty sure we all knew this was the cause.. look at when the evo came out it had horrible battery life when wimax was still young
And when 3G came out it was killing batteries also... And the circle of life continues...
I'm not sure if I am lucky or what. I am rooted and running BAMF rom. I use my TB just how i used my OG droid and I still get 15 hours on a single charge. I also have full 4G coverage in my area. That might be the cause. I dont see the connection switching around between 3G and 4G. Stays at 4G
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So after the now infamous 4G outage I did notice one important thing on my TB. That day I had the best battery life ever. First time I made it through the day without charging. Hopefully sometime soon we will have an official 4G on/off toggle. I know there is one that takes you to the service menu so you can change the settings but it would be nice to have one that you can just toggle 4G off to 3G then toggle back on without the extra steps.
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Power 2 antennas will definitely use some juice. That's why individuals in non-4G markets (like myself), disable the feature to keep from constant searching.
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That's why individuals in non-4G markets (like myself), disable the feature to keep from constant searching.
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Agreed. I live in a 3G area, but work in a 4G area, and honestly didn't see much of a difference in normal usage except that my battery would die about 3/4 into the day with 4G enabled. Ever since I disabled 4G my battery lasts the whole day.
I am in a 3g area. Even before the outage my TB was always going from 3g to 1x. I called for help but it only continued. During the outage a fix was posted for a temp. fix to bring 3g back for those in a 3g area. The fix was to apply Rev. A. once I did this not only did I get 3g back but it remained stable and it was loading w a y faster then it ever has before. When I heard the 4g3g problem was fixed I followed the instructions to revert to the original setting. When I did the pages loaded slower like it always did. So I turned it back to Rev A. for good until I find myself in a real 4g environment. Oh and another big plus is that the battery has dramatically improved. So I am very happy leaving it like it is. Sweeet.
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I am in a 3g area. Even before the outage my TB was always going from 3g to 1x. I called for help but it only continued. During the outage a fix was posted for a temp. fix to bring 3g back for those in a 3g area. The fix was to apply Rev. A. once I did this not only did I get 3g back but it remained stable and it was loading w a y faster then it ever has before. When I heard the 4g3g problem was fixed I followed the instructions to revert to the original setting. When I did the pages loaded slower like it always did. So I turned it back to Rev A. for good until I find myself in a real 4g environment. Oh and another big plus is that the battery has dramatically improved. So I am very happy leaving it like it is. Sweeet.
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Are you still able to do voice/data at the same time running like that?
I did not notice any degradation in terms of battery life after the outage. I'm in 4G area and use LTE Only Mode, so everything is the same as before about 18hrs from a charge.
I did use voice and data at the same time . I was surprised that it actually worked.
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They just turned on LTE in my area of Hawaii (though I don't think officially.) But it constantly switches back from 4G to 3G and vice versa. Sometimes it gets stuck with no data and I have to toggle airplane mode. My buddies phone in same spot could show 4G and mines 3G and vice versa. This significantly drains the battery and not a very good experience. My question is I noticed in the app that we used to turn off 4G there is an option for LTE Only, does anyone know of there would be any negative reprocussions on leaving it on 4G only? Like could it harm the phone, would any certain features/apps not work properly, etc?
I ran it like that today. Data connection seemed better and constant. When I looked at my phone throughout the day I did not notice a time where there was no data. My calls/texts/emails came through like normal. Battery seemed better. Left work with more battery than my LG Revolution which is normally the other way around. I did not run into any negative impact with setting it to LTE Only. Can anyone think of any warnings?
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All it does is set your radio to only use 4G. If you get to an areabthat has no 4g or wifi you would have to switch back to 3g or 3g/4g auto in order to get data.
No harm, just won't switch out of 4g unless you do it. Probably why the data lock is better and battery life as well.
If you get solid 4G just use LTE only and switch it if you loose 4G.
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They just turned on LTE in my area of Hawaii (though I don't think officially.) But it constantly switches back from 4G to 3G and vice versa. Sometimes it gets stuck with no data and I have to toggle airplane mode. My buddies phone in same spot could show 4G and mines 3G and vice versa. This significantly drains the battery and not a very good experience. My question is I noticed in the app that we used to turn off 4G there is an option for LTE Only, does anyone know of there would be any negative reprocussions on leaving it on 4G only? Like could it harm the phone, would any certain features/apps not work properly, etc?
I ran it like that today. Data connection seemed better and constant. When I looked at my phone throughout the day I did not notice a time where there was no data. My calls/texts/emails came through like normal. Battery seemed better. Left work with more battery than my LG Revolution which is normally the other way around. I did not run into any negative impact with setting it to LTE Only. Can anyone think of any warnings?
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You are fine running LTE only. All you will get with that is 4G & 1x, so either extremely fast data, or slow as a turtle. I use that setting almost all the time here in Jersey, I live right outside of NYC so I get constant 4G coverage. It does help with the battery life too.
Anyone know of a toggle widget that will put phone in 2g and back to 4g without having to go to the setting screen? I save so much battery not being on 4g. 5hrs and only used 25% battery on 2g vs 55% on 4g with the same usage..
ive been looking for the same, except to toggle to 3G
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ive been looking for the same, except to toggle to 3G
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for the Sensation 3G & 4G are the same thing. whether you're on UTMS or HSPA really would be negligible when it comes to battery drain. It's when you start actually getting 4G like LTE where it'd be a noticeable difference.
This is why i was asking about 2g cause GSM does not drain my battery and the temp on the phone is at 89.5 not 105.5 as when im on 4g.
I use the 2g 3g widget from curve fish doing in the market...it's more of a shortcut, but takes me where I need to go quicker than through settings
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I'm looking for the very same thing but it seems like not available at the moment....
cableline02 said:
Anyone know of a toggle widget that will put phone in 2g and back to 4g without having to go to the setting screen? I save so much battery not being on 4g. 5hrs and only used 25% battery on 2g vs 55% on 4g with the same usage..
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Settings - Wireless & networks - Mobile network settings.
Set network mode to GSM only (instead of GSM/WCDMA auto)
SwitchPro's widget will take you to Mobile network settings. That's the best I've found.
Widgetsoid is good, has dozens of functions and that's one of them. Plus, has aosp power widget appearance.
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neocx said:
Settings - Wireless & networks - Mobile network settings.
Set network mode to GSM only (instead of GSM/WCDMA auto)
SwitchPro's widget will take you to Mobile network settings. That's the best I've found.
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This is it.
I searched for a program like this before and everyone kept giving answers like widgets that take me to the setting page. Im pretty sure the type we want doesnt exist, and you would have to put a custom mod on for that to work
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I searched for a program like this before and everyone kept giving answers like widgets that take me to the setting page. Im pretty sure the type we want doesnt exist, and you would have to put a custom mod on for that to work
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Android does not allow direct switching like that thats why allmost all widgets take you to the settings
Try this
https://market.android.com/details?id=de.mangelow.network&feature=search_result
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So does turning on WIFI calling when I'm at home connected to my router save battery life?
It all depends I guess on what you are doing while on Wi-Fi
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It all depends I guess on what you are doing while on Wi-Fi
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Well that's obvious. But I'm talking about WIFI CALLING. Does turning it on actually not use the cell radio/modem so in turn should it save battery life, since cell radio/modem uses a lot of batt.
Wondering if anyone's had experience in this. This is the first device I've had that supports tmobile's wifi calling.
This is also my first device with WiFi Calling. I always have it on while I'm home because the signal is poor inside my house. Not sure if this is because of WiFi Calling, but when my phone has 30-40% battery left at night and I leave it in standby with WiFi on...I wake up to find the battery dead. So it's possible it's because of WiFi being on during the night. I sometimes put it in airplane mode so battery doesn't drop.
No. Wifi itself sucks mre power than data. Even if your not on a wifi call, your wifi is still on.
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I don't think so, but wifi calling is awesome. Free calling FTW
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No. Wifi itself sucks mre power than data. Even if your not on a wifi call, your wifi is still on.
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I am not saying you're wrong, but I've always heard it's the other way around, so I did a google search. I found many posts debating this topic, but this is the best answer I've found so far, and it makes a lot of sense:
WiFi drastically saves battery compared with 3G because the radio is so much weaker. Think about it this way: The 3G radio broadcasts powerfully enough to reach a cell tower 15 miles away. The WiFi radio has a range of about 200 feet.
However, the WiFi radio wastes power if you are not actually connected to a WiFi node. Therefore, it's best to turn it off when you leave a hot spot. You can use a utility like "Y5" to automatically toggle WiFi based upon your location.
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Source: http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-support-troubleshooting/93929-will-using-wifi-actually-save-battery.html
The device in question was the EVO 4G, but the same principles apply to every phone. Hope this helps.
Wifi calling saves a ton of battery because it turn off the phones radio completely
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Wifi calling saves a ton of battery because it turn off the phones radio completely
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I don't think so. When I leave WiFi Calling on overnight, my battery is dead by morning. When I turn it off, my battery barely drops overnight.
I notice less battery being consumed when I'm connected to WiFi
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WIFI calling burns through my battery at least a third faster than when it's disabled. I only enable it when I intend to make a call; to receive, I use the data/tower.
It's one of those non-exact sciences to say which is better on battery
The GSM/3G radio uses more power when it's active (i.e. IN USE, on a call/data) than when it's not. The difference is actually pretty huge.
Wifi radio when 'in use' uses more power than when it's 'idle' - but the difference is a lot less, due to how it keeps 'in touch' with the wifi router.
The actual amount of power they take depends on distance, radio quality, the weather (yeah, I'm serious!) etc.
There are only few providers who support Wifi calling here in the UK - Orange, I believe is one of them, so I can't comment on actual use. Of course, we have VoIP services, which I use regularly on my Sensation, over Wifi (it won't work over 3g sadly).
Out of interest, if your TMo 'Wifi calling' fully UMA compliant - i.e. can you send/recieve SMS/MMS as well? I'm interested to know if it's a UMA app, or something built into the phone, or a TMo system, or something different.
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Out of interest, if your TMo 'Wifi calling' fully UMA compliant - i.e. can you send/recieve SMS/MMS as well? I'm interested to know if it's a UMA app, or something built into the phone, or a TMo system, or something different.
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Yeah, I can send and receive SMS/MMS when I have WiFi calling turned on. I tested it this by turning off the mobile network as well and worked.
Make sure you go into the WiFi calling connection preferences in settings and select wifi only. Sometimes it will leave your 3g on.
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Out of interest, if your TMo 'Wifi calling' fully UMA compliant - i.e. can you send/recieve SMS/MMS as well? I'm interested to know if it's a UMA app, or something built into the phone, or a TMo system, or something different.
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It's not quite as robust as the older UMA phones were, however. It does NOT handle hand-off from WIFI to CELL. You'll lose your call if you leave wifi range.
2G is better than WiFi but WiFi definitely drains less battery than 3g/4g
For me, my phone definitely lasts longer when I'm using wifi calling. My g2x generally goes through about 10% of battery every hour.when at home and using wifi calling it usually only uses about 2-5% an hour
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I'm willing to wager that in areas of strong WiFi, the WiFi calling may save battery power. However, in an area where WiFi is weak or may drop in and out, using the cell tower may be more efficient. However, this may not be true if you're in an area with poor 4G signal (of if it's searching for 4G constantly in a 2G or 3G-only area), as it'll constantly be boosting the cellular radio to search for service.
Turning on the WiFi calling works well for me - I use it at home and at the office, both of which have very solid WiFi. Maybe I'll do a trial tomorrow with it off entirely (4G only) and see if it ends up lasting longer during normal use.
Ok.everyone on this forum are talking about wifi calling I got a tmobile branded device in uk were is the feature to call via wifi.
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Ok.everyone on this forum are talking about wifi calling I got a tmobile branded device in uk were is the feature to call via wifi.
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On a stock T-Mobile USA HTC Sensation 4G, the app is right there preinstalled called "Wi-Fi Calling"
Not sure if it's available for T-MOBILE in Europe.