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can i shut off 3g and use just edge?

Can I do that with my inspire?

dvigue said:
Can I do that with my inspire?
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Not on the stock ROM. For some odd reason AT&T has removed that feature. CM7 has it.

How about Android revolution

dvigue said:
How about Android revolution
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I personally haven't tried it, but I think it does. Anyone want to confirm this?

Yes, android revolution had gsm/wcdma options.

You can try dialing *#*#4636#*#*
go to phone information you can choose what type of connection for the radio....let me know if it works for ya..
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[gsm only] for me it connects to Edge....
[gsm auto prl] gives me a more stable 3G connection full bars even though it says H+
[wcdma preferred] is supposed to give you the 4G speeds but its still flaky I only get 2-3 bars...depending on location if you're 4G covered..
My inspire is not rooted and im assuming this is the only way to change networks without root.
jadeus0831 said:
You can try dialing *#*#4636#*#*
go to phone information...
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jadeus0831 said:
[gsm only] for me it connects to Edge....
[gsm auto prl] gives me a more stable 3G connection full bars even though it says H+
[wcdma preferred] is supposed to give you the 4G speeds but its still flaky I only get 2-3 bars...depending on location if you're 4G covered..
My inspire is not rooted and im assuming this is the only way to change networks without root.
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does this need to be done whenever i reboot my phone? or does this setting stay?

newter55 said:
Yes, android revolution had gsm/wcdma options.
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At least on the Captivate in DFW, GSM is still 3G. I could connect to 850MHz GSM only and still get 3Mbps down without issue. CM7 is the first time I have actually been able to switch to EDGE only since I had a stupid iPhone.

Yeah you can use just EDGE. Go to T-Mobile.
Why would someone want to do this?

2kgt said:
Yeah you can use just EDGE. Go to T-Mobile.
Why would someone want to do this?
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Battery life, mainly. EDGE requires less power than 3G. I do it when I will be out for a while and I can still get my push Exchange email.

id10terrordfw said:
Battery life, mainly. EDGE requires less power than 3G. I do it when I will be out for a while and I can still get my push Exchange email.
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the best thing i do when i am going out for a while and know i need the battery to last longer is just turn off the mobile data connection. this is what drains android phones so quickly. this leaves the phone on 3g, but it is very efficient.
i'll unplug, go to the bar with mobile data off, and 5 hours later my phone is still at 95% battery. still on the 3g network too, just no data going.
its by far the best way to do it IMO. it turns any android phone into a "normal" phone battery again. and dont have to fiddle with network switching.

RogerPodacter said:
the best thing i do when i am going out for a while and know i need the battery to last longer is just turn off the mobile data connection. this is what drains android phones so quickly. this leaves the phone on 3g, but it is very efficient.
i'll unplug, go to the bar with mobile data off, and 5 hours later my phone is still at 95% battery. still on the 3g network too, just no data going.
its by far the best way to do it IMO. it turns any android phone into a "normal" phone battery again. and dont have to fiddle with network switching.
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There are those of us who can't turn off mobile data. Part of my chosen job is the be on call 24/7. The way I usually get notified is by email. Therefore, mobile data is a necessity.
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Mobile HotSpot and Data Drop

Just curious if there are any other Thunderbolt users who are experiencing the same data issues that I am with the hotspot feature.
When using the hotspot, my data connection will repeatedly drop in and out, to the point of making the hotspot unusable.
This is the second device, first one returned and exchanged for the same reason.
I live in an area with great 4G and have never dropped from 4G to 3G because the 4G coverage is so widespread.
I'll turn on the hotspot and then at some point as I'm streaming Grooveshark or surfing and browsing, my data connection drops, and then begins to cycle on and off.
I have changed channels, trying every one and have taken a video of this behaviour, showing it to the store managers at my local Verizon store.
I have also sent the video to a level 2 tech support guy hoping he has some clue as to what is going on, have not heard back yet.
You can literally watch the 4G icon cycle on and off of the signal indicator, not switching to 3G, simply losing a connection all together.
I Googled and found a link to an Engadget article which documented the same issue.
I'd appreciate any help for those who may have experienced and / or have fixed this issue.

You can try to force the phone to use LTE only instead of LTE/EvDO hybrid connection. Go to Market and download the LTE On/Off app, then follow the instructions to make it LTE only and try again.
I have experienced similar problem yesterday but it has been great today so far. Could be a software problem, could be a network problem, or both.

I've been experiencing the same issue since I picked up the phone at launch. It occurs on my PC, my Xoom, and my iPad 2. I can count on the data connection eventually dropping during normal surfing, though I can usually accelerate the process by opening up a video on Youtube and jumping back and forth to random parts.
So far VZW tech support has not been of assistance, not acknowledging that there may be a larger problem despite issues documented at engadget as well as threads at androidcentral.com and VZW's own community forum.

I have experienced the same problem. I found a remedy but it is a pain. If you switch your preferred network to LTE Mode only, turn off mobile network, switch to airplane mode, switch off airplane mode, then turn mobile network back on, it should be stable. If its not, try a reboot. Usually I will not drop connection after this. The only problem with LTE Mode as your preferred network is that it will not drop to 3g if you lose 4g coverage, it goes straight to 1x for the most part. I hope they get these bugs worked out soon because it is rather annoying to deal with for power users.

So after sending the vid to the level two tech support at Verizon, he replied via email that this is a known issue with no known resolution date. I guess now we know why the hotspot is free, it's a known issue that it doesn't work 100% for 100% of Thunderbolt users.
They have until 5/15 to fix it, or extend the free period I guess. How can they charge for a service that has a known issue?

I've spoken to four level two techs regarding the matter, one said it was a "known issue," the other three stated they were not aware of any issues.

Kinda sucks - this is almost like antennagate

next time your data goes out dial ##778 and go into edit mode. Password is 000000. Under modem settings change "Rev. A" to enable if it isn't already AND MAKE SURE YOU COMMIT CHANGES.

KDKobes said:
next time your data goes out dial ##778 and go into edit mode. Password is 000000. Under modem settings change "Rev. A" to enable if it isn't already AND MAKE SURE YOU COMMIT CHANGES.
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The issue here is 4g data dropping when using the mobile hotspot. EVDO revisions aren't involved.
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I have experience a similar issue with 3G albeit not often, but when I'm trying to download large files, or even small ones at that, my 3G will just drop. Then it flips back. Then drops. It lasts for 15 minutes and then it's fine.

My hotspot keeps dropping connection enough that it makes it difficult to do anything other than surf. Its happened on multiple ROMs for me. I even went back to stockROM and still had this issue pop up. My fix has been to just disconect from hotspot and then start surfing from my thunderbolt. Once im recieving data again to my device I can reconnect hotspot and Im up and running again.
Sometimes tho, my 3g will just drop all together and I have to toggle Lte or evdo and then back to cdma auto. Toggling between network types seems to get me back and running......sometimes. And sometimes I just have to wait cause nothing works. I have noticed if I do a complete wipe and install ROM again things start working again for awhile.
Sidenote: Dont live in 4g area.

Sorry to be re-opening this topic, but has anyone heard anything new about this problem? I use the hotspot intermittently and it would actually be worth the price to me so I was wondering if anyone knows if there will be a fix.
Also, do any of the other applications that allow tethering after rooting have this problem?

Yea its got to be the radio because I flashed both leak and stock and used mobile hotspot and root tether and both would drop data several times but what was funny is when it would drop signal most of the times I could just awake my phone not even unlock but just awake it the data connection would start back up again
Maybe you could try this until a fix or better 4g coverage comes out
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Are you guys seeing this only in the stock hotspot app or in apps like wireless tether also?
HTC Thunderbolt --- das BAMF 1.5 Remix

I have the same problem, it sucks
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I haven't actually used any other application other than the preinstalled hotspot application.
I'm new to this and was under the impression that you need to root your phone in order to use other ones. Being new, I'm not prepared to make a mistake doing that.
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The problem is due to the buggy mobile hotspot app. Same problem on my thunderbolt. It is not a hardware issue but software. Trust me, been there and done that. Fix is to root and installed "wireless tether" for rooted user. You won't look back especially after May 15th.

I have the data drop issue with the mobile hotspot, but no problem at all with wifi tether.

Alright I guess rooting is on my agenda today. Thanks.

I'm having the same issues on 3g, using the mobile hotspot app and Barnacle Wifi. I will try the Wireless Tether app and see if it works any better.

Bad reception, anyone use the free unlimited wifi calling feature?

Hi everyone, I'm pretty new to posting, had a G2 before but mostly read the forums.
So I've got a G2x that works pretty well so far, no major issues, just some screen bleed in one corner. The only complaint I have is the reception on the phone. It seems that it drops several bars whenever I hold my phone, and in my house, it drops to zero bars where my G2 would hold 1-2 bars.
So I'm starting to use wifi calling so that I can disable the radio through the hidden menu to save some battery power when I'm at home. The problem is, wifi calling only works for a few minutes before it realizes that I'm not on the T-mo network. Basically, I think it needs the cell radio to remain on for wifi calling to work.
I went on T-mo's chat support to enable the free unlimited wifi calling feature on my phone, which, according to the support, will enable me to keep the cell radio off and make calls with the app, just like the UMA wifi calling feature that blackberry phones have. The rep told me to wait a few hours before trying the free wifi calling, which I did, but it still works the same as it did before I got free wifi calling added.
Has anyone else activated the free wifi calling feature? Does it work like the UMA wifi calling feature that blackberry phones have? It's possible it will take longer for the feature to kick in, so I'll keep checking.

It is not UMA. If you are in the middle of a wifi call and you move out of wifi range, the call will drop. That said, you do not need cell tower access, that beats the entire purpose of wifi calling. I use it when I work in the server room at my office. The room is in the center of the building surrounded by concrete so nobody gets any signal in there and I turn wifi calling on all the time.
You'll need a certain amount of bandwidth though. I have at home comcast cable with 22mbps and if I'm streaming Netflix in HD, the wifi calling call quality goes to ****. I haven't captured packets yet but I'm sure it's just that the router can't cope with all those QoS packets. So try not to stream anything while you use wifi calling and you'll be fine.

So do you keep your cell radio on in that deadzone? Wouldn't that drain the battery quickly since it is constantly looking for a signal?

When you turn on wifi calling it turns off cell tower polling automatically. You'll see that your cellphone reception goes from whatever many bars you had, to zero bars because it turns off the cell radio automatically. So once you see the wifi calling icon in the notification bar, you're set. You stop polling celltowers and you save battery

The wifi calling apps automatically turns the radio off after it connects to the network and switches it to GSM only. You'll notice that the bars will go to none once it is connected. You're actually interferring with thd app by trying to do things yourself.
And yes, I use the app whenever I am at home since I get poor signal. Get great battery life just letting it do what it does.
Edit: above poster basically said everything I said while I was typing lol.
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I use the WIFI calling feature when I'm at work since I don't get a cell signal in the building. I never changed my account to activate the WIFI calling feature because I already have unlimited minutes on my account, so it doesn't make a difference that WIFI calling uses my plan minutes. Plus, when I tried to do it online, the online system wanted to change my account to one of the plans with a 2GB cap (I'm on the original EM+ family plan, with the 5GB cap). Didn't think it was that important.
Once I get to work, I connect to WIFI, then turn on WIFI calling. I never disable my cell radio. I also set my WIFI calling to connect through WIFI only, not WIFI preferred. At times, my calls are pretty clear. But, there are times when my calls are so choppy that I have to have the person hang up, so that I can call them back from an office line (or go outside and use the T-Mobile tower on my cell).

Oh wow that makes sense, thanks for the responses, I didn't think that it would stop searching for a signal when wifi calling is enabled. I'm curious though, do you guys put connection preferences to "Wifi only?" Seems that if you do wifi or cell preferred it would need a connection to a cell tower so that it could switch to GSM if it provides better call quality.

I haven't tested this in a while but I think if you do wifi only, once you move out of wifi range you have to remember to disable wifi calling or you get no calls.

@Memnoch30 and kangxi
Did you both activate the unlimited free wifi calling feature introduced in May?
Also I just noticed that there is a setting in the app. Under advanced settings, there's an option with the description "UMA network controller address." Perhaps UMA can be enabled somehow?

No I didn't. I have unlimited minutes so I don't really worry about any of that.
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I did activate it since I don't have unlimited minutes. I don't know about enabling UMA though.

See, this is something I don't get. Using a cell phone with spotty reception. That is one issue I can say I've never had before this phone. One that is choronically losng it's cell connection.This is ultimately the ONLY reason I have one. Period. If the phone reception is not rock 100% freaking solid, why do I have the damn thing? I do not want a phone that doesn't put my call through every single time. Why should I stand for anything less?

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See, this is something I don't get. Using a cell phone with spotty reception. That is one issue I can say I've never had before this phone. One that is choronically losng it's cell connection.This is ultimately the ONLY reason I have one. Period. If the phone reception is not rock 100% freaking solid, why do I have the damn thing? I do not want a phone that doesn't put my call through every single time. Why should I stand for anything less?
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I agree, I think the android phone market is so packed that manufacturers have to put in a lot of time to bump up tech specs for their phone to stand out. They really should be at least implementing a cell radio and battery good enough for real world use though

Wifi calling is amazing. I use it at work. It also saves huge amounts of battery cause wifi < cellular.
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how do you get it enables unlimited?? i dont see anything on the tmobile site about it being free unlimited wifi calling just that it will use your plan minutes

Xargon321 said:
how do you get it enables unlimited?? i dont see anything on the tmobile site about it being free unlimited wifi calling just that it will use your plan minutes
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You have to call customer service or do it through their online chat support service to have it enabled. I'm not sure why they make you do this, but you can't enable it yourself through the My T-mobile website.

have to say anything special? or just tell them to enable unlimited wifi calling? might have to do this later then.

Well, you have to be the primary account holder, but you don't really say anything special, just ask to add "free unlimited wifi calling" to your phone line.

Funny thing happened to me I called tonight and, after doing some other changes, asked about the unlimited wifi calling. The agent said oh I see u have a g2x. I said yea? Then after a hold. He said as long as ur using the wifi calling App it doesn't use plan minute.. I said oh really plz note that on my account so when it uses my minutes I can get credit. He said sure no problem I noted it and tagged the support document I read it from on your account. This was the third time I tried adding it. So I have no idea what is going on..
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That's strange... maybe try adding it through the online chat support, that's how I got it added. They take a while to respond but they seemed to have added it to my account, can't say for sure though.

[Q] T-mob Does wife data use affect plan limit?

I just got my HTC One S on T-Mob. Connected to my wifi network at home and not to T-Mob's network, does browsing add to my data use on T-Mob? Do calls get posted to my voice minutes use?

cheddar 151 said:
I just got my HTC One S on T-Mob. Connected to my wifi network at home and not to T-Mob's network, does browsing add to my data use on T-Mob? Do calls get posted to my voice minutes use?
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The data does not count towards limits. I don't use WiFi calling.
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In the U.S., anything you do through WiFi does not count towards your plan min/data.

I think you have to make sure the free wifi calling is "activated" through Tmo here in US. I think. I don't use it either.
I never could get the concept of Tmo charging anything at all for using your own network to route calls. Takes the strain off their system and they charge for it.

Sorry, the thread title is just too funny. How much "wife data" do you really need?
Wifi data (for web browsing, etc) shouldn't affect your mobile data limit. Wifi calling in theory should not affect your voice minutes, assuming your account and SIM card are set up for it. But I do know the older (2yr+) TmoUS accounts' terms were still deducting minutes even with WIFI calling - if you are not sure, you should call to check.

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I think you have to make sure the free wifi calling is "activated" through Tmo here in US. I think. I don't use it either.
I never could get the concept of Tmo charging anything at all for using your own network to route calls. Takes the strain off their system and they charge for it.
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I agree, however it is still funneled through their servers. It might relieve the stress on their towers, but it operates nearly the same on their network (unless you use Google Voice or some other VOIP service).

4g toggle and other questions

Ok, i finally got this thing rooted. I have a few questions about this, and these may be more ICS questions than Photon questions.
Do I have to do anything to turn on 4g? I cant find anywhere to do this. I liked the toggle buttons that showed at the top of older version of android, anyway to get those back? I ask because i was in an area yesterday where 4g service is available, but i never saw the phone automatically change to 4g.
Also, a program that i have used alot in the past is Roam Control. This is so that when i was at my hunting land, i could set my phone to roam only. I noticed more options in Preferred Network Mode. Is this how to set my phone to roam only? Because i installed Roam Control, and it doesnt work for this phone.

Check in development for the toggles. Still no 4G toggle. But rangerbry did an awesome job porting the others over.
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In the mobile networks section of the phone there are options, in your case, "CDMA" or "CDMA/LTE". I would think if you leave CDMA/ LTE selected the phone will connect to LTE when it or IF it is available. If not it will simply stay on 3G/CDMA.
How did you know the area you wer ein actually had LTE? Sprint seems to be launching a market when there is like 20% coverage, so good chunks of an area will not see it light up yet on the phones.

not lte but 4g. i know because my other phone got 4g service there. It seems like if u leave this phone on automatic, its not actually automatic cause it wont pickup 4g. which option do i use for roam only?

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not lte but 4g. i know because my other phone got 4g service there. It seems like if u leave this phone on automatic, its not actually automatic cause it wont pickup 4g. which option do i use for roam only?
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Which other phone? Was it WiMax capable? This phone will only do LTE, not Sprints WiMax. Both are different forms of 4G for Sprint.

tetrabyt said:
Check in development for the toggles. Still no 4G toggle. But rangerbry did an awesome job porting the others over.
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Would be really nice to have some way to toggle 4g on/off... I know my buddy's Evo3D (yes, wimax...) can easily toggle it on/off. He said his battery life is WAY better when he leaves his wimax radio off, and I would imagine leaving the LTE radio off would be beneficial.
As there isn't a whole lot of Sprint rollout for LTE right now, turning it off permanently isn't a bad thing... But if I'm traveling or just curious - it would be nice to have this toggle!
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In the mobile networks section of the phone there are options, in your case, "CDMA" or "CDMA/LTE". I would think if you leave CDMA/ LTE selected the phone will connect to LTE when it or IF it is available. If not it will simply stay on 3G/CDMA.
How did you know the area you wer ein actually had LTE? Sprint seems to be launching a market when there is like 20% coverage, so good chunks of an area will not see it light up yet on the phones.
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Yea, it seems like this is the only method right now. Just set the network to "CDMA" and it will only be able to connect to 3g. I don't see any change in the 4g status, any way to verify this?
I was actually surprised at how granular my buddy's 3vo was with 4g - it was almost like wifi, had everything separate (and this is stock...) So I'm really hoping we can sort out something similar - because I don't see how wimax and LTE are different in these respects - no?

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... because I don't see how WiMax and LTE are different in these respects - no?
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Nah, as I suspect that unlike WiMax (which was a separate chipset) the LTE radio is combined with the CDMA radio on the chipset (and maybe even the GSM radio, if the chipset's advanced enough- I know there's combined CDMA/GSM radios).

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Nah, as I suspect that unlike WiMax (which was a separate chipset) the LTE radio is combined with the CDMA radio on the chipset (and maybe even the GSM radio, if the chipset's advanced enough- I know there's combined CDMA/GSM radios).
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That would suck. So far my battery life on this device is really awful... I've only been awake for 2 hours and I'm down 20%. Granted I have been playing with it more than I usually would (under "normal" usage patterns... new phone and all ), but damn! I wonder how long this thing will be able to stream music...

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That would suck. So far my battery life on this device is really awful... I've only been awake for 2 hours and I'm down 20%. Granted I have been playing with it more than I usually would (under "normal" usage patterns... new phone and all ), but damn! I wonder how long this thing will be able to stream music...
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Streams music for the better part of 8hrs for me while at work. And if it isn't music or videos, I'm talking on the phone. I have you tried smart actions yet?
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Streams music for the better part of 8hrs for me while at work. And if it isn't music or videos, I'm talking on the phone. I have you tried smart actions yet?
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I need to play more with the Smart Actions. The only one I have setup now is an overnight one if I forget to plug it in.

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I need to play more with the Smart Actions. The only one I have setup now is an overnight one if I forget to plug it in.
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They are sweet...
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I don't know if you "got" your answer, but I was talking with a Sprint Rep and she told me that the LTE just "turns" on. It's kinda like Tmo's HSPA. It's part of the Network. It just switches over if it sees it.
In your settings, you can say CDMA or CDMA/LTE. That's asking 3G or 3G/4G LTE. As far as a toggle, someone needs to come up with it. LoL!!
Your best bet, until a developer comes up with the answer, is to make a shortcut to that. I want this phone. =.P

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[I was told] the LTE just "turns" on. It's kinda like Tmo's HSPA. It's part of the Network. It just switches over if it sees it.
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The issue, of course, is that having the LTE radio (which appears to be a separate entity, unlike GSM where it's merely another modulation scheme that the chipset understands) be on all the time drains power that's essentially being wasted since Sprint's LTE Network is largely nonexistent.
The reason for wanting a Toggle is for those folks who spend their time in non-LTE (or marginal LTE signal) areas, who'd like a quick way to either test for an upcoming rollout, or to use LTE only when in a known LTE-enabled area.

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The issue, of course, is that having the LTE radio (which appears to be a separate entity, unlike GSM where it's merely another modulation scheme that the chipset understands) be on all the time drains power that's essentially being wasted since Sprint's LTE Network is largely nonexistent.
The reason for wanting a Toggle is for those folks who spend their time in non-LTE (or marginal LTE signal) areas, who'd like a quick way to either test for an upcoming rollout, or to use LTE only when in a known LTE-enabled area.
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Yea. I completely understand that. That's why I also stated that OP should just have a shortcut to their setting where they can change from CDMA to CDMA/LTE. That way OP can turn off LTE when not using it. A toggle, of course, would make this process a whole lot easier. I don't see why there isn't a toggle. There's a toggle for 4G WiMax. It does the same thing. When it's not connected, it just idles and scans again. It uses more battery looking for 4G to connect to than actually using it. LoL!! I've noticed that 4G WiMax "sleeps" quickly once it connects. I hope LTE would do the same.
Let me stop before I start ranting on. LoL!!

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I looked at them briefly....am I missing something or does the battery saving one not give you the ability to give parameters like syncing every 30 minutes/1 hour or the like? If the ability is there, I couldn't figure out how to edit that one properly. I only saw 3 options and the one that'd be closest to what I'd want basically read like it will only sync when you're actively using the phone. I want that, but additionally would like it to connect and sync periodically and shut data back off. I'd used Green Power Premium on my Epic for that but thought maybe Smart Actions would give me the ability to do away with using it.