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Anybody which consume more battery? My initial though was WiFi would drain more battery since you'll need to turn on both phone and wifi radio, and Edge you only need to turn on one. But it turns out that EDGE take more battery for the iPhone. So i'm wondering if anybody done any real world testing of which drains more battery. I know that there's some app out there that would measure battery drain but that's per application basics, not the actual connection itself.
Well, you can turn the phone off when you're using wifi. You just won't get any phone calls (which may not be a bad thing).
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Well, you can turn the phone off when you're using wifi. You just won't get any phone calls (which may not be a bad thing).
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I think he means the power consumption required for using edge to surf the net.
I never thought about it, but since I'm rarely within a free wifi network outside, so this won't matter to me
Hi I tried looking for a similar thread but couldn't find one. So I was curious if my g2x battery use is normal. When I look it up my battery use is mostly consumed by cell stand by. I'm not running 4g I'm using 2g. Is this normal?
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Hi I tried looking for a similar thread but couldn't find one. So I was curious if my g2x battery use is normal. When I look it up my battery use is mostly consumed by cell stand by. I'm not running 4g I'm using 2g. Is this normal?
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It is normal. If you click on it and your time without a signal is high then you may have a poor signal or another issue. Searching for signal will kill the battery pretty quick.
I clicked on it and I don't get any indication of time without signal. All it says its time on 2h 43m 50s. Could it be the battery it self? I've left the phone mostly idling this whole time and its already down to 86% . I've tried all the tips like only use 2g, lowest display, and juice defender. In like 6 hours I'm down to like almost 55 percent.
Normal idle drain for me is between 2% and 4% an hour. In areas with weak reception such as my office, the drain can be much higher due to the radio switching between 2g and 4g looking for a strong signal. I have gotten into the habbit of switching to 2g only at the office. You might try it for a day as a test to see if it helps. I know it is not a great solution, but it is what it is.
High 300ma - 1000+ ma battery drain on idle. Bought pre-used 1 week. Faulty good or?
Info: already did factory reset using stock motor recovery and cache.
Also did factory reset through android.
Also tested ma drain without any installed apps - still high 600-1000ma drain on standby.
Also when I use battery monitor app, it says my battery is li-on 1500mah.. Is this a fake razr hd? Razr hd meant to read 2530mah?
I'll attach screen shots, please give your opinions people.
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High 300ma - 1000+ ma battery drain on idle. Bought pre-used 1 week. Faulty good or?
Info: already did factory reset using stock motor recovery and cache.
Also did factory reset through android.
Also tested ma drain without any installed apps - still high 600-1000ma drain on standby.
Also when I use battery monitor app, it says my battery is li-on 1500mah.. Is this a fake razr hd? I thought it's meant to be 2750mah?
I'll attach screen shots, please give your opinions people.
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The MAXX is 3300 the Reg HD is 2530
I mean 2530ma..
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Where did you buy it? Could be fake
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You have a problems. This is my battery capacity. .
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I am also experiencing what I feel is significantly less battery life than I should be getting from my new RAZR MAXX HD.
I have only gone through one charge cycle, so I'm hoping it is just a symptom of unconditioned battery.
Last night I went to bed with the phone on 35% and when I woke up 7 hours later it was dead despite being idle with the screen off.
Now after fully charging, battery monitor is giving me an estimate of only 10 hours (after I manually entered 3300 mAh capacity). I expect to get close to 30 hours mixed use out of this phone.
What is the best way for me to determine if there is some problem with my phone?
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I am also experiencing what I feel is significantly less battery life than I should be getting from my new RAZR MAXX HD.
I have only gone through one charge cycle, so I'm hoping it is just a symptom of unconditioned battery.
Last night I went to bed with the phone on 35% and when I woke up 7 hours later it was dead despite being idle with the screen off.
Now after fully charging, battery monitor is giving me an estimate of only 10 hours (after I manually entered 3300 mAh capacity). I expect to get close to 30 hours mixed use out of this phone.
What is the best way for me to determine if there is some problem with my phone?
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Are you in a area with poor cell or lte coverage? Searching for signal will murder a battery quickly. I thought my S3 was faulty before I realized that poor lte coverage was eating my batt.
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Are you in a area with poor cell or lte coverage? Searching for signal will murder a battery quickly. I thought my S3 was faulty before I realized that poor lte coverage was eating my batt.
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I've been experiencing short battery life as well. I bought a Telstra branded but unlocked RAZR HD from JB Hi Fi and am using it on the Optus network. Could this be keeping the radios awake trying to find a Telstra network or something? Wakelock features prominantly in my battery stats, second only to screen, and the Better Battery Stats app estimates I have around 10 hrs from a full charge. I have 4g off, wifi off, bluetooth off, gps on.
So far its used 5% in 30 mins with very minimal use (one text message and on 2 or 3 times to check Better Battery Stats) and says it's only achieved deep sleep for 4mins 9s.
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I've been experiencing short battery life as well. I bought a Telstra branded but unlocked RAZR HD from JB Hi Fi and am using it on the Optus network. Could this be keeping the radios awake trying to find a Telstra network or something? Wakelock features prominantly in my battery stats, second only to screen, and the Better Battery Stats app estimates I have around 10 hrs from a full charge. I have 4g off, wifi off, bluetooth off, gps on.
So far its used 5% in 30 mins with very minimal use (one text message and on 2 or 3 times to check Better Battery Stats) and says it's only achieved deep sleep for 4mins 9s.
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What does the BBS say the wakelock is? If it isn't under the word wakelock try looking at the biggest partial wakelock. Also if it is signal related it is probably under cell standby in the android battery reporter. Also I hope that isn't whats going on and it is unlikely or no one would use noncarrier specific phones. I am wanting to buy a canadian hd maxx so I can use it here on at&t.
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I've been experiencing short battery life as well. I bought a Telstra branded but unlocked RAZR HD from JB Hi Fi and am using it on the Optus network. Could this be keeping the radios awake trying to find a Telstra network or something? Wakelock features prominantly in my battery stats, second only to screen, and the Better Battery Stats app estimates I have around 10 hrs from a full charge. I have 4g off, wifi off, bluetooth off, gps on.
So far its used 5% in 30 mins with very minimal use (one text message and on 2 or 3 times to check Better Battery Stats) and says it's only achieved deep sleep for 4mins 9s.
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As a reference, here are screenshots of my battery monitor widget history. My drain is typically well under 200 mA when screen is off and idling with radios only. In the first screen shot, RAZR HD was unplugged at 1240, then used GPS, and maps over LTE at 1312, did some texting too. Then it was thrown into the side pocket of my car for awhile explaining the drop in temperature. Third screen is when I charged it up earlier.
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What does the BBS say the wakelock is? If it isn't under the word wakelock try looking at the biggest partial wakelock. Also if it is signal related it is probably under cell standby in the android battery reporter. Also I hope that isn't whats going on and it is unlikely or no one would use noncarrier specific phones. I am wanting to buy a canadian hd maxx so I can use it here on at&t.
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OK, after I left home and went to work, phone only drained 10% in 3.5 hours, so thought all might be good, got home, drain started going up again. While at work the phone was achieving deep sleep, at home it stopped again. After looking at BBS and doing some digging, the issue seems to be Fast Dormancy. FDComlpeteTime is the largest partial wakelock by far. Whirlpool website says some optus towers support fast dormancy but not all, so maybe while i was at work i was connected to one of those that has it.
So the next big question is how do I disable fast dormancy on the RAZR HD.
Battery issues
I too have been having battery issues.
My last few phones have been iPhones and I have been extremely disappointed with the Motorola Razr HD's battery.
First, it takes forever to charge up... like over three hours. Is that a common experience for others? My old iphones with charge up from low to full in an hour-ish.
Second, the battery seems to drain at an alarming rate. I have not been using my Razr HD for gaming or videos and I'm not still not getting anything near a full day out of the phone.
I have a drainage shot from Battery Monitor but apparently I can't posted as I'm a noob. But essentially it shows -150 to -350 most of the time (ie. lock screen off or when doing minimal tasks) and then -450 to -750 for anything real (web browsing, maps etc.)... no idea if these are acceptable numbers.
I have been trying to extend my battery life using SetCPU, but frankly this should be necessary.
With 65% battery my estimated time remaining is about 5 hours... I'm not feeling the "all day" battery promised.
Any suggestions welcome!
Same issue here as well.
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OK, after I left home and went to work, phone only drained 10% in 3.5 hours, so thought all might be good, got home, drain started going up again. While at work the phone was achieving deep sleep, at home it stopped again. After looking at BBS and doing some digging, the issue seems to be Fast Dormancy. FDComlpeteTime is the largest partial wakelock by far. Whirlpool website says some optus towers support fast dormancy but not all, so maybe while i was at work i was connected to one of those that has it.
So the next big question is how do I disable fast dormancy on the RAZR HD.
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Ok, so while at my friends place last night the problem persisted. Ended up downloading Titanium Backup and freezing Modem Fast Dormancy Monitor Service. fdCompleteTime disappered from my Partial wakelocks. Battery drain went down quite a lot, after 2-3 hours of monitoring was geting reports of approx 3%-4% an hour =25-30Hrs on battery, very usable.
Came home, put it on charge, went to sleep. Pulled it off charge this morning, didn't touch it for 3-4 hrs, turned it on to see only 66% battery left. thats a drain of approx 10% an hour with no use. After checking BBS there was no significant partial wakelocks at all, but kernel wakelocks have now gone up with smdcntl0, smdcntl1 and bam_dmux_wakelock and radio interface being the big killers.
As this wasn't happening at my friends place, am I just living in a hole that can't get a good lock on reception, or is there some inherent problem with using this phone on the Optus network rather than the network that it was release under (Telstra)?
So after four hours of work and minimal use (checked a couple emails and Twitter) I'm at 75% battery life.
Meanwhile, in the same period and with maybe a bit less usage on an iPhone 4s is sitting at 97%.
I think I've just about had it with the RAZR HD.... it's worst feature is the one it bragged about (battery life).
The battery problem also exists in the maxx hd? It seems there is a big problem, because it occurs many people
Or maybe after a few charge cycle the battery life will be normalized? Pls tell me what happens at you!
Guys i was having this same issue and i uninstalled lightflow app and all is well now. The app wasnt letting my phone go into deep sleep it was always awake even with screen off. Now that i uninstalled the app i only get 2% drain in 6 hours of screen off. I suggest if you have this app to uninstall immediately. Let me know if this helps anyone.
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found out my issue, my phone was a dodgy phone sold by a dodgy seller (it in fact had a replaced aftermarket battery of 1500mah), bought a new razr HD and it is now the proper 2530mah...
2) your phone will drain if its not with telstra.
reason: telstra supports fastdormancy (saves battery), but if ur like me and use optus (doesnt support fastdormancy), it will drain your battery because, the razr hd telstra branded was configured like this. uninstall modemfastdormancy using titaniummbackup.
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found out my issue, my phone was a dodgy phone sold by a seller (it in fact had a replaced aftermarket battery of 1500mah), bought a new razr HD and it is now the proper 2530mah...
2) your phone will drain if its not with telstra.
reason: telstra supports fastdormancy (saves battery), but if ur like me and use optus (doesnt support fastdormancy), it will drain your battery because, the razr hd telstra branded was configured like this. uninstall modemfastdormancy using titaniummbackup.
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I've already frozen modemfastdormancy monitor in titanium back up.
I'm in Melbourne and in some areas i get ok battery drain, others i get about the same as if i had fast dormancy still on. I think some optus towers are configured to use fast dormancy as before i froze the service i was getting really good battery stats in some areas. (10% over 4 hours).
At the moment I'm just getting round it by switching 3g off when i don't need it.
hi there,
i have the same issue.. i get something around 12 hours in use, and 1.5 hours display on- time.. ist the seccond charge and discharge process.. if you look at the Images, you can see, that all the time the display was off, the phone doesnt switch in to the deep sleep mode.. i read here in this poste, somebody are talking about wakelocks, could you explain what is mean with that? is there a way to figure out what is prevent the phone to go in to deep sleep mode? i downloaded the battery monitor widget app, but not sure that im right with it..
many many thanks!
I heard good reviews about battery life of Moto G but mine's battery life is disappointing, could you please see my stats and tell me if its normal or something is wrong.
There can be many factors why battery life is that worse. Bad programmed apps, Wifi always on, screen time, call duration, running background processes and so on. Most times i switch my data connection off if i don't need it. I run my phone since 2 days and 8 hours and my battery is on 9% at the moment. As i see your wifi was always on. Try switching it off.
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There can be many factors why battery life is that worse. Bad programmed apps, Wifi always on, screen time, call duration, running background processes and so on. Most times i switch my data connection off if i don't need it. I run my phone since 2 days and 8 hours and my battery is on 9% at the moment. As i see your wifi was always on. Try switching it off.
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Screen on time is around 4 hours, I haven't called even for a second or used my data connection yet, but I keep wifi always on because I thought it causes lesser battery drain.
How can always wifi on cause lesser battery drain?
Don't know, sounds unlogical to me.
4 hours screen on? Phuu........did not try it but i guess it is normal if you have your screen 4 hours on.
What are you expecting? Switching everyting on and then have a two days battery life?
See yourself on your graph how battery got better when screen was off. Now switch off wifi and try again.
In my opinion i don't see any problem with your phone.
Maybe someone might correct me if someone feels that i am .....
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How can always wifi on cause lesser battery drain?
Don't know, sounds unlogical to me.
4 hours screen on? Phuu........did not try it but i guess it is normal if you have your screen 4 hours on.
What are you expecting? Switching everyting on and then have a two days battery life?
See yourself on your graph how battery got better when screen was off. Now switch off wifi and try again.
In my opinion i don't see any problem with your phone.
Maybe someone might correct me if someone feels that i am .....
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I thought Wifi uses lesser battery than 3G and I expected 20 hours battery atleast.
I see your Wifi is working all the time. Are you aware of this?
In some JB Android version google implemented automatic Wifi networks scanning (probably for their purposes), even when Wifi switch swhows "disabled".
You can disable it, maybe it can save some battery: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2422689,00.asp
Cheers.
Install BetterBatteryStats and see if there's any wakelocks that are eating your battery at the moment.
Also, about your on screen time - what's the settings for brightness that you use? You might want to consider dropping the "auto" and go for a reasonable low level of brightness that fits your indoor or outdoor activities.
Your assumption of WiFi eating less batter than data connection is correct in most of the cases.
Anyway, if you have any doubts about this... an average NOTE3 user can't get to those 3h 30minutes with on screen time
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Install BetterBatteryStats and see if there's any wakelocks that are eating your battery at the moment.
Also, about your on screen time - what's the settings for brightness that you use? You might want to consider dropping the "auto" and go for a reasonable low level of brightness that fits your indoor or outdoor activities.
Your assumption of WiFi eating less batter than data connection is correct in most of the cases.
Anyway, if you have any doubts about this... an average NOTE3 user can't get to those 3h 30minutes with on screen time
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538691
Your battery is normal with so much screen on time.
It does look disappointing,i get a lot more than that but mine is rooted and greenified and set up how i like it.
Im currently on 1d 18h and have 39% left with 4 hour screen time and that's with a mixture of wifi and 3G.
i enable airplane mode overnight though which only uses 1% in 8 hours.
I'd say that's normal battery life for this phone here's mine for today.
I'd agree with the previous post.
I've been on a WiFi network for the past 7 hours.
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Battery life has been disappointing ever since smart phones got on the market... Oh good old Nokia 3310 how I miss your battery performance
Seriously something needs to be invented, this cannot be tolerated any longer.
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svetievboris said:
Battery life has been disappointing ever since smart phones got on the market... Oh good old Nokia 3310 how I miss your battery performance
Seriously something needs to be invented, this cannot be tolerated any longer.
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LOL. I miss my old Nokia too but face it. That old Nokia had a tiny screen and did little more than phone calls and texts.
I've had a few androids and The G is by far the best in terms of battery life.
I miss my indistructable Nokia but I wouldn't go back
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Motorola is advertising this phone as all day battery phone so shouldn't it last more than 12/14 hours.
A car manufacturer also advertises his car with 500 km per full fuel tank. But if you drive all the time with 170 km/h per hour over the highway then this statement can also not be applyed anymore. As i said, i switch on wifi only when i need it and thats the same with data. I had a battery life for nearly 72 hours. Ok i made also less calls in that time. But it is all about your usage. I for my opinion can not find any problem as i said already. Motorola advertised nowhere that you can use your phone under "full load" for a whole day. This is called marketing in todays world. If you be believe everything what advertisement says then you seem for me very naive....... you should think about that
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A car manufacturer also advertises his car with 500 km per full fuel tank. But if you drive all the time with 170 km/h per hour over the highway then this statement can also not be applyed anymore. As i said, i switch on wifi only when i need it and thats the same with data. I had a battery life for nearly 72 hours. Ok i made also less calls in that time. But it is all about your usage. I for my opinion can not find any problem as i said already. Motorola advertised nowhere that you can use your phone under "full load" for a whole day. This is called marketing in todays world. If you be believe everything what advertisement says then you seem for me very naive....... you should think about that
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Atleast the reviews said it last more than a day and I didn't used the phone under full load, just the Wifi was on all the time which uses lesser battery than 3G and I did 0 calls.
It might be true that 3G uses lesser than WI-FI, but what is that for a comparison? You can not compare WIFI and 3G because it is a completly different technology for different purposes. 3G Data uses a lot of Battery that's true. But WIFI also but less than 3G. But this statement doesn't mean that WiFi uses nearly no Battery. It uses only less. If 3G uses 100 parts energy and WiFi uses 85 parts energy out of 100 then it is less. But 85 is still a lot out of hundred. I quoted full load, just as a general statement. I know you had not switched on Bluetooth and so on. But anyway, Dataconnections are a expensive feature in relation to battery life.
Did your review tell you the exact conditions they tested it under? Or did they just say that without any proove? Also Tests and reviews are often copy and paste bull****. If i see an Antivirus test and the Userinterface is tested bad but the userinterface has a 45% weight in the all over test then i would say this is a crap test.
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It might be true that 3G uses lesser than WI-FI, but what is that for a comparison? You can not compare WIFI and 3G because it is a completly different technology for differnet purposes. 3G Data uses a lot of Battery that's true. But WIFI also but less than 3G. But this statement doesn't mean that WiFi uses nearly no Battery. It uses unly less. If 3G uses 100 parts energy and WiFi uses 85 Parts energy out of 100 then it is less. But 85 is still a lot out of hundred. I quoted full load, just as a general statement. I know you had not switched on Bluetooth and so on. But anyway, Dataconnections are a expensive feature in relation Battery life.
Did your review tell you the exact conditions they tested it under? Or did they just say that without any proove? Also Tests and reviews are often copy and paste bull****. If i see an Antivirus test and the Userinterface is tested bad but the userinterface has a 45% weight in the all over test then i would say this is a crap test.
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Yes see the gsmarena battery test I've attached, my phone doesn't even come near to its battery life
Unfortunately I can't take a screenshot but I have a stock (not rooted) Moto G that loses excessive amounts of battery with Aeroplane mode on!
What can possibly be causing such excessive battery drain - 50% -> 7% in 6 hours with no screen on or data or wifi.
Thanks
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Unfortunately I can't take a screenshot but I have a stock (not rooted) Moto G that loses excessive amounts of battery with Aeroplane mode on!
What can possibly be causing such excessive battery drain - 50% -> 7% in 6 hours with no screen on or data or wifi.
Thanks
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Hi that's a lot of drain i'd say theres some rogue process that runs even in airplane mode with no internet killing the battery i'll attach a screenshot of mine from last night this is with network on but WiFi and data off.
Hello,
I recently picked up a OP6 and I'm really pleased with it overall but SOT has been a little disappointing. At least I think it has depending which battery app I consult!
Accubattery Pro thinks I'm getting an average 8h 16m of SOT (this is definitely not correct!).
GSM Battery Monitor PRO reckons 4h 46m of SOT (which still seems a bit high).
In the battery tab of the Settings menu it reckons having used 65% of my battery I've had 2h 50m SOT (ie. from 100% after 2hr 50m of SOT I'm now sitting on 35%). I think this equates to about 4h 30m of SOT if I continued at the same pace. I guess this tallies pretty closely to the GSM Battery Monitor PRO so maybe this is about accurate.
I've followed the guide here to get the most SOT but 4h 30m seems on the low given that I don't game or stream, don't have FB installed etc. This is purely webbrowsing, a bit of YT and a podcast app (listening to downloaded podcasts rather than streamed if that makes a difference).
Nothing in the battery stats seems that unusual (please see attached). What does seem a little odd is that I'm not in a great spot for mobile reception but looking at the stats it doesn't look like the radio is draining the battery.
Any advice on how to delve deeper? I'm 100% stock and not rooted.
Any advice for a OP newbie is much appreciated
Hmmmm Better Battery Stats seems to tell a rather different story especially around the radio reception.
Again any advice much appreciated!
The poor signal is killing you. When the signal is poor it pumps out more juice trying to stay connected. If you will be in an area with poor signal and won't be using your phone I suggest putting it in airplane mode or maybe setting it to 3G as a proof of concept. If your battery is much better then you found your issue
Also wifi scanning is turned on,which is a battery killer. Turn it off and you can see a great difference
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The poor signal is killing you. When the signal is poor it pumps out more juice trying to stay connected. If you will be in an area with poor signal and won't be using your phone I suggest putting it in airplane mode or maybe setting it to 3G as a proof of concept. If your battery is much better then you found your issue
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Thanks Spartan! The problem is poor indoor reception with the signal constantly cutting in and out. As such airplane mode may be the ultimate option but obviously it's a bit of a bummer as a long term solution! I'm going to try another provider which claims to have better indoor coverage in my area.
Question #1 - you mention trying setting to 3G as a proof of concept. Is that because a 2G/3G uses less power to connect than searching for a 4G connection? Should I try the 2G only option before the 3G one?
Question #2 - if I do try 2G/3G (before trying airplane mode) should I turn off mobile data too or does that make a difference?
Question #3 - I'm guessing having 2 sims installed makes the problem even worse as both are constantly calling for signal? I typically use one for data and one for voice.
Question #4 - when some folks post their battery graphs they have a picture which shows the mobile and wifi signal (see attached as an example). I don't seem to be able to find this. Was it removed from the latest update as the battery section seems to have changed a bit.
Thanks again!
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Also wifi scanning is turned on,which is a battery killer. Turn it off and you can see a great difference
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Thanks for taking the time to reply!
Strangely I don't think I do have wifi scanning on (please see attached screenshots)! Location services are also off.
Are you thinking I do because the wifi is on 100% of the time?
Could this be because an app is somehow keeping it awake?
Hmmm can't see an option to check if "keep wifi on during sleep" is enabled. Has this been removed from 9.0.2?