High 300ma - 1000+ ma battery drain on idle. Bought pre-used 1 week. Faulty good or?
Info: already did factory reset using stock motor recovery and cache.
Also did factory reset through android.
Also tested ma drain without any installed apps - still high 600-1000ma drain on standby.
Also when I use battery monitor app, it says my battery is li-on 1500mah.. Is this a fake razr hd? Razr hd meant to read 2530mah?
I'll attach screen shots, please give your opinions people.
royalbloodvi said:
High 300ma - 1000+ ma battery drain on idle. Bought pre-used 1 week. Faulty good or?
Info: already did factory reset using stock motor recovery and cache.
Also did factory reset through android.
Also tested ma drain without any installed apps - still high 600-1000ma drain on standby.
Also when I use battery monitor app, it says my battery is li-on 1500mah.. Is this a fake razr hd? I thought it's meant to be 2750mah?
I'll attach screen shots, please give your opinions people.
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The MAXX is 3300 the Reg HD is 2530
I mean 2530ma..
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Where did you buy it? Could be fake
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You have a problems. This is my battery capacity. .
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I am also experiencing what I feel is significantly less battery life than I should be getting from my new RAZR MAXX HD.
I have only gone through one charge cycle, so I'm hoping it is just a symptom of unconditioned battery.
Last night I went to bed with the phone on 35% and when I woke up 7 hours later it was dead despite being idle with the screen off.
Now after fully charging, battery monitor is giving me an estimate of only 10 hours (after I manually entered 3300 mAh capacity). I expect to get close to 30 hours mixed use out of this phone.
What is the best way for me to determine if there is some problem with my phone?
Rav_3d said:
I am also experiencing what I feel is significantly less battery life than I should be getting from my new RAZR MAXX HD.
I have only gone through one charge cycle, so I'm hoping it is just a symptom of unconditioned battery.
Last night I went to bed with the phone on 35% and when I woke up 7 hours later it was dead despite being idle with the screen off.
Now after fully charging, battery monitor is giving me an estimate of only 10 hours (after I manually entered 3300 mAh capacity). I expect to get close to 30 hours mixed use out of this phone.
What is the best way for me to determine if there is some problem with my phone?
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Are you in a area with poor cell or lte coverage? Searching for signal will murder a battery quickly. I thought my S3 was faulty before I realized that poor lte coverage was eating my batt.
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Are you in a area with poor cell or lte coverage? Searching for signal will murder a battery quickly. I thought my S3 was faulty before I realized that poor lte coverage was eating my batt.
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I've been experiencing short battery life as well. I bought a Telstra branded but unlocked RAZR HD from JB Hi Fi and am using it on the Optus network. Could this be keeping the radios awake trying to find a Telstra network or something? Wakelock features prominantly in my battery stats, second only to screen, and the Better Battery Stats app estimates I have around 10 hrs from a full charge. I have 4g off, wifi off, bluetooth off, gps on.
So far its used 5% in 30 mins with very minimal use (one text message and on 2 or 3 times to check Better Battery Stats) and says it's only achieved deep sleep for 4mins 9s.
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I've been experiencing short battery life as well. I bought a Telstra branded but unlocked RAZR HD from JB Hi Fi and am using it on the Optus network. Could this be keeping the radios awake trying to find a Telstra network or something? Wakelock features prominantly in my battery stats, second only to screen, and the Better Battery Stats app estimates I have around 10 hrs from a full charge. I have 4g off, wifi off, bluetooth off, gps on.
So far its used 5% in 30 mins with very minimal use (one text message and on 2 or 3 times to check Better Battery Stats) and says it's only achieved deep sleep for 4mins 9s.
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What does the BBS say the wakelock is? If it isn't under the word wakelock try looking at the biggest partial wakelock. Also if it is signal related it is probably under cell standby in the android battery reporter. Also I hope that isn't whats going on and it is unlikely or no one would use noncarrier specific phones. I am wanting to buy a canadian hd maxx so I can use it here on at&t.
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I've been experiencing short battery life as well. I bought a Telstra branded but unlocked RAZR HD from JB Hi Fi and am using it on the Optus network. Could this be keeping the radios awake trying to find a Telstra network or something? Wakelock features prominantly in my battery stats, second only to screen, and the Better Battery Stats app estimates I have around 10 hrs from a full charge. I have 4g off, wifi off, bluetooth off, gps on.
So far its used 5% in 30 mins with very minimal use (one text message and on 2 or 3 times to check Better Battery Stats) and says it's only achieved deep sleep for 4mins 9s.
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As a reference, here are screenshots of my battery monitor widget history. My drain is typically well under 200 mA when screen is off and idling with radios only. In the first screen shot, RAZR HD was unplugged at 1240, then used GPS, and maps over LTE at 1312, did some texting too. Then it was thrown into the side pocket of my car for awhile explaining the drop in temperature. Third screen is when I charged it up earlier.
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What does the BBS say the wakelock is? If it isn't under the word wakelock try looking at the biggest partial wakelock. Also if it is signal related it is probably under cell standby in the android battery reporter. Also I hope that isn't whats going on and it is unlikely or no one would use noncarrier specific phones. I am wanting to buy a canadian hd maxx so I can use it here on at&t.
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OK, after I left home and went to work, phone only drained 10% in 3.5 hours, so thought all might be good, got home, drain started going up again. While at work the phone was achieving deep sleep, at home it stopped again. After looking at BBS and doing some digging, the issue seems to be Fast Dormancy. FDComlpeteTime is the largest partial wakelock by far. Whirlpool website says some optus towers support fast dormancy but not all, so maybe while i was at work i was connected to one of those that has it.
So the next big question is how do I disable fast dormancy on the RAZR HD.
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I too have been having battery issues.
My last few phones have been iPhones and I have been extremely disappointed with the Motorola Razr HD's battery.
First, it takes forever to charge up... like over three hours. Is that a common experience for others? My old iphones with charge up from low to full in an hour-ish.
Second, the battery seems to drain at an alarming rate. I have not been using my Razr HD for gaming or videos and I'm not still not getting anything near a full day out of the phone.
I have a drainage shot from Battery Monitor but apparently I can't posted as I'm a noob. But essentially it shows -150 to -350 most of the time (ie. lock screen off or when doing minimal tasks) and then -450 to -750 for anything real (web browsing, maps etc.)... no idea if these are acceptable numbers.
I have been trying to extend my battery life using SetCPU, but frankly this should be necessary.
With 65% battery my estimated time remaining is about 5 hours... I'm not feeling the "all day" battery promised.
Any suggestions welcome!
Same issue here as well.
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OK, after I left home and went to work, phone only drained 10% in 3.5 hours, so thought all might be good, got home, drain started going up again. While at work the phone was achieving deep sleep, at home it stopped again. After looking at BBS and doing some digging, the issue seems to be Fast Dormancy. FDComlpeteTime is the largest partial wakelock by far. Whirlpool website says some optus towers support fast dormancy but not all, so maybe while i was at work i was connected to one of those that has it.
So the next big question is how do I disable fast dormancy on the RAZR HD.
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Ok, so while at my friends place last night the problem persisted. Ended up downloading Titanium Backup and freezing Modem Fast Dormancy Monitor Service. fdCompleteTime disappered from my Partial wakelocks. Battery drain went down quite a lot, after 2-3 hours of monitoring was geting reports of approx 3%-4% an hour =25-30Hrs on battery, very usable.
Came home, put it on charge, went to sleep. Pulled it off charge this morning, didn't touch it for 3-4 hrs, turned it on to see only 66% battery left. thats a drain of approx 10% an hour with no use. After checking BBS there was no significant partial wakelocks at all, but kernel wakelocks have now gone up with smdcntl0, smdcntl1 and bam_dmux_wakelock and radio interface being the big killers.
As this wasn't happening at my friends place, am I just living in a hole that can't get a good lock on reception, or is there some inherent problem with using this phone on the Optus network rather than the network that it was release under (Telstra)?
So after four hours of work and minimal use (checked a couple emails and Twitter) I'm at 75% battery life.
Meanwhile, in the same period and with maybe a bit less usage on an iPhone 4s is sitting at 97%.
I think I've just about had it with the RAZR HD.... it's worst feature is the one it bragged about (battery life).
The battery problem also exists in the maxx hd? It seems there is a big problem, because it occurs many people
Or maybe after a few charge cycle the battery life will be normalized? Pls tell me what happens at you!
Guys i was having this same issue and i uninstalled lightflow app and all is well now. The app wasnt letting my phone go into deep sleep it was always awake even with screen off. Now that i uninstalled the app i only get 2% drain in 6 hours of screen off. I suggest if you have this app to uninstall immediately. Let me know if this helps anyone.
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found out my issue, my phone was a dodgy phone sold by a dodgy seller (it in fact had a replaced aftermarket battery of 1500mah), bought a new razr HD and it is now the proper 2530mah...
2) your phone will drain if its not with telstra.
reason: telstra supports fastdormancy (saves battery), but if ur like me and use optus (doesnt support fastdormancy), it will drain your battery because, the razr hd telstra branded was configured like this. uninstall modemfastdormancy using titaniummbackup.
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found out my issue, my phone was a dodgy phone sold by a seller (it in fact had a replaced aftermarket battery of 1500mah), bought a new razr HD and it is now the proper 2530mah...
2) your phone will drain if its not with telstra.
reason: telstra supports fastdormancy (saves battery), but if ur like me and use optus (doesnt support fastdormancy), it will drain your battery because, the razr hd telstra branded was configured like this. uninstall modemfastdormancy using titaniummbackup.
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I've already frozen modemfastdormancy monitor in titanium back up.
I'm in Melbourne and in some areas i get ok battery drain, others i get about the same as if i had fast dormancy still on. I think some optus towers are configured to use fast dormancy as before i froze the service i was getting really good battery stats in some areas. (10% over 4 hours).
At the moment I'm just getting round it by switching 3g off when i don't need it.
hi there,
i have the same issue.. i get something around 12 hours in use, and 1.5 hours display on- time.. ist the seccond charge and discharge process.. if you look at the Images, you can see, that all the time the display was off, the phone doesnt switch in to the deep sleep mode.. i read here in this poste, somebody are talking about wakelocks, could you explain what is mean with that? is there a way to figure out what is prevent the phone to go in to deep sleep mode? i downloaded the battery monitor widget app, but not sure that im right with it..
many many thanks!
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So the screen is supposed to have less drain on the battery? Why does it drain 80% of the battery consistently? So if this phone had a regular lcd screen it would only last 3 hours?
When I'm at work the service sucks and my phone is constantly searching for signal. The battery went down two % in a minute and goes down 5-6 every hour if not more when not using it. At home I don't have this issue and I get much better performance. I pimped my phone out and I feel like this is the cause of such short performance. The phone is much more responsive and I love it but if I want to make it through a day I can hardly use the thing. Just posting this thread caused my phone to go down 4%
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If your phone is constantly searching for a signal, then you will see rapid battery drain.
I have not had this issue with other phones. At least not this bad
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Smallsmx3 said:
I have not had this issue with other phones. At least not this bad
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lol switch to the dell streak or the evo, you'll then truelly be able to appreciate battery life on the captivate.
in general though, it seems like you're having some bad luck with your battery. Some users suggested doing some power cycling and a factory reset of the phone. I also highly recommend reading the pimp my captivate pdf. Nifty little section in there for battery optimization.
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So the screen is supposed to have less drain on the battery? Why does it drain 80% of the battery consistently? So if this phone had a regular lcd screen it would only last 3 hours?
When I'm at work the service sucks and my phone is constantly searching for signal. The battery went down two % in a minute and goes down 5-6 every hour if not more when not using it. At home I don't have this issue and I get much better performance. I pimped my phone out and I feel like this is the cause of such short performance. The phone is much more responsive and I love it but if I want to make it through a day I can hardly use the thing. Just posting this thread caused my phone to go down 4%
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When was your phone purchased? If you registered it, did you happen to notice the manufactured date?
if your phone is on standby, when you go to settings-about phone-battery- What is eating the battery?
My first Captivate would drain the battery (even in "standby") about 2-3% per hour. Even though the phone would be on standby more than on, the DISPLAY was eating the battery life more than "cell standby"
my 2nd captivate - battery is lasting much longer - took it off the charger Friday at 7PM - am currently at 34% - and I've used the web browser/navigation/browsed the market, made phone calls, etc)
When I view the battery settings, "cell standby" is first in line..
Also, when I do keep the phone on standby, the battery BARELY drains.. I'm talking maybe 1% for 3 hours
Oh, the GPS works on phone #2 as well. My 2nd phone was manufactured 7/20, first phone was 7/10
born_fisherman said:
When was your phone purchased? If you registered it, did you happen to notice the manufactured date?
if your phone is on standby, when you go to settings-about phone-battery- What is eating the battery?
My first Captivate would drain the battery (even in "standby") about 2-3% per hour. Even though the phone would be on standby more than on, the DISPLAY was eating the battery life more than "cell standby"
my 2nd captivate - battery is lasting much longer - took it off the charger Friday at 7PM - am currently at 34% - and I've used the web browser/navigation/browsed the market, made phone calls, etc)
When I view the battery settings, "cell standby" is first in line..
Also, when I do keep the phone on standby, the battery BARELY drains.. I'm talking maybe 1% for 3 hours
Oh, the GPS works on phone #2 as well. My 2nd phone was manufactured 7/20, first phone was 7/10
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Is this how it is for most people? My battery history always shows display as the number one battery consumer at 65-70% no matter how I use the phone.
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with light usage i get 2 days out of the phone and screen usage is not at the top of the list.
phishie said:
Is this how it is for most people? My battery history always shows display as the number one battery consumer at 65-70% no matter how I use the phone.
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My display is always first as well and it's between 60% and 70% all the time....my battery last all day with moderate to heavy use though so whatever lol
My screen is always the one thing that uses my battery the most but I still get a day out of my phone.
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So the screen is supposed to have less drain on the battery? Why does it drain 80% of the battery consistently? So if this phone had a regular lcd screen it would only last 3 hours?
When I'm at work the service sucks and my phone is constantly searching for signal. The battery went down two % in a minute and goes down 5-6 every hour if not more when not using it. At home I don't have this issue and I get much better performance. I pimped my phone out and I feel like this is the cause of such short performance. The phone is much more responsive and I love it but if I want to make it through a day I can hardly use the thing. Just posting this thread caused my phone to go down 4%
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If you went down 4% just posting, then it sounds more like a battery issue. Can't really help you there. But the crappy service at work thing - have you tried seeing if flipping from 3g to edge helps? In my office, my 3g signal is bad - 0-2 bars, constantly fluctuating. If I filp to edge, 4 - 5 bars the whole time. You could definitely save some battery there, if it worked for you. Here's the thread for changing to 2g: hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737137
FYI - Checked battery at Midnight last night- battery status was 32%
Battery is STILL at 32% this morning.
If my phone is idleing, i hardly lose any battery percentage.
I use Juice Defender to help my battery. i can easily get 2 days out of it if I use my computer to browse the web, but sometimes it's just easier to use my phone if I am at home or laying in bed.
Some of you are getting some very impressive battery life, I cannot seem to compare.
My battery went down 5% over 6 hours. Which is a huge improvement over the 30 percent it did before.
My phone has been off the charger for 15 hours and 26 minutes. About 8 hours of which I was asleep and the phone was in standby. My display is still listed as #1 in battery history at 52%, I don't understand how anyone gets the display out of the #1 spot.
if you don't use the phone, it wont. I've had it where my display and idle were about the same, but that's because i haven't used it.
If you make a phone call, the display will turn off and your cell service will take over the #1 spot.
The display will drain the battery the fastest. Even if it does suck less juice than before, it is still more than android needs to run. If you take the display away and give it a black and white that you find on E-Readers, I bet this phone would last for days and days. You are paying for a 4 inch screen that is gorgeous. Of course it is going to use battery life. There aren't any other ways around this.
EDIT: I'll play around with it for the next few hours while i'm hitting golf balls and then I'll break it all down and we'll see how my battery has been affected.
For those of you who don't have there screen with the main drain what do you have it set at? I have auto brightness on and power saving on. Maybe these cause more problems. With the screen constantly adjusting our drains more than it save s
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Voice calls is in first at 52% and display is at second with 38%. I get amazing battery life out of this device. Again I am comparing this to a BBC bold.
My battery would drain down twice per day.
If I was going to turn off background data, browse on my PC, and micromanage all the settings... well, I wouldn't have gotten a smartphone.
I would have preferred a slightly thicker phone to go with a larger battery. Samsung had the option with the BlackJack with a bigger battery & second battery door.
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My battery would drain down twice per day.
If I was going to turn off background data, browse on my PC, and micromanage all the settings... well, I wouldn't have gotten a smartphone.
I would have preferred a slightly thicker phone to go with a larger battery. Samsung had the option with the BlackJack with a bigger battery & second battery door.
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1500 mah is the largest battery in a phone yet. I am sure someone will release an extended battery which will also add thickness.
Typical Android devices get terrible battery life from what I have heard.
I'm not at all surprised that my display is the #1 factor in draining my battery. I bought this phone for its display.
What I am surprised to hear are those people who own this phone, use it, and don't have their display as numero uno in their battery history. I have to imagine they either: 1) don't use the phone all that much (e.g. have it in standby most of the time), 2) only use it for phone calls & texts, or 3) have their brightness/other settings set up uniquely.
I'm most interested as to whether #3 is true. If that's the case I'd like to find out what those settings are and try them out myself.
So i tried what you guys suggested. I rooted the phone, bought setcpu, using anttek to freeze running services, and used the battery calibration app still NOTHING. I just woke up and my battery was at 0 before i went to sleep it was at 62%!! How can it die in idle with no running servislces wi fi off gps off BT off i mean it has to be the battery right?
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I was just getting on here to rant about this. It seems that whenever I use the phone the battery gets warm and declines quickly. Lost over 40 percent battery over 2 hrs mostly playing mp3s
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This may or may not be related...just something to think about. For years I've placed my phone in the top drawer of my nightstand when sleeping. What I noticed when switching to Android is if I leave syncing on it will drain my battery. My theory is...in the drawer my data signal is very week or non existent. The phone dutifully tries to sync on that weak signal...searching for signal...fails and retries...or succeeds and transfers at a snails pace. Result dead battery. I've found that disabling data before bed results in less than a five percent drop. Just my experience.
If not then I'd suggest a phone swap.
Also...Why in the world did you start another thread? If we scatter all these x is wrong with my phone posts across multiple threads it really hampers the effort to solve the problem.
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I was just getting on here to rant about this. It seems that whenever I use the phone the battery gets warm and declines quickly. Lost over 40 percent battery over 2 hrs mostly playing mp3s
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Did you look for a solution before deciding to "rant"? Just curious...
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I was just getting on here to rant about this. It seems that whenever I use the phone the battery gets warm and declines quickly. Lost over 40 percent battery over 2 hrs mostly playing mp3s
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I've also noticed this. In the morning my battery life is decent but by the after noon I can do light web browsing (10-20) mins in an hour and loose over 15% tmobile told me that isn't good lol I have a new battery on the way. They shipped it out yesterday we'll see if that helps. Also my battery was dead when I got my phone did anyone else get one that couldn't even power the phone on?
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Did you look for a solution before deciding to "rant"? Just curious...
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Yes. Like the OP, I tried the solution of the person that is so called getting 20hr battery life under medium usage. Just doesn't seem feasible at all. And its really annoying to have to cut the data off completely to keep the phone from getting warm...
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Yes. Like the OP, I tried the solution of the person that is so called getting 20hr battery life under medium usage. Just doesn't seem feasible at all. And its really annoying to have to cut the data off completely to keep the phone from getting warm...
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If you researched the problem and tried the solutions offered, then the logical next step is to contact T-mobile for a replacement. This is an early release of a new phone; there will be defects. And you don't have to settle for a defective device/battery. I can assure you, I get battery life on par with my previous phone (8-20 hours depending on my usage)..so, bad battery life isn't a problem inherent to the phone. And my phone doesn't get warm with data usage. It sounds like you might have a defective battery or phone. If you aren't satisfied, don't settle...make 'em make it right.
I get about 5-10% battery drain overnight most nights and I am not mindfull of what apps are running or what is on. My experience obviously differs from yours. I do get great service in my bedroom where the phone is overnight. The other night I did experience a bout a 60% drop when I left the phone in my daylight basement (underground). I get crappy 2G service in my basement and it looses signal a lot. I think it adds some credibility to the searching for service slowly killing the battery. maybe try putting the phone in airplane mode before going to sleep. That should give you some indicator.
I'm now are 28 percent after 3 1/2 hrs with the display only using 13% if that..
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I'm now are 28 percent after 3 1/2 hrs with the display only using 13% if that..
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Just curious, does your phone feel hot right now?
You might have a bad battery or something. My first g2x rebooted constantly and drained the battery and got hot.
New one goes 8am to midnight with 20% battery left, on moderate usage. And even at the 20% left i can leave it overnight and it'll still have power in the morning.
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I was just getting on here to rant about this. It seems that whenever I use the phone the battery gets warm and declines quickly. Lost over 40 percent battery over 2 hrs mostly playing mp3s
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The phone is going to get warm is use because the CPU is under load and that produces heat. As long as its not overheating this is normal.
Have either of you tried the factory reset? That fixes the idle drain for most people.
Also... Your phone is going to drain battery faster while actually in use no matter what you do. The LCD and data connection are the biggest battery drain for smartphones. Until battery technology improves, there is nothing that can be done about this. But like I said try a factory reset and you should see your idle drain improve dramatically.
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I've also noticed this. In the morning my battery life is decent but by the after noon I can do light web browsing (10-20) mins in an hour and loose over 15% tmobile told me that isn't good lol I have a new battery on the way.
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Were you on wifi? Because if you weren't that much drain is within the norm. Web browsing = constant data connection = more power consumption = faster battery drain.
I had 10 hours of heavy use yesterday and had 25 percent left... 2.5 of those were in airplane mode cuz I was flying from Phoenix to Atlanta but I watched a movie during the flight and had music playing the rest of the time... during my layover which was 4 hours I browsed the web, watched a stream of the Celtics vs heat for a bit, more music... I plugged back in with 25% left and had 3h20m of screen on time... this battery is freaking awesome! I had drain issues initially but they went away and now I'm golden
when i did a factory reset, my phone was getting hot until i remember about the *#*# thing and changed that to wcdma/gsm auto. then my battery life got better.
Get juice defender. Its work wonders for me and my buddies thunderbolt actually makes it through the day now
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Battery Drain is mostly Cellular radio
I too am have been looking for a way to have this phone last at least 8-12 hours with normal usage, but I don't think its going to happen unless there's some major update to the radio firmware coming in 2.3 Gingerbread..
All the evidence seems to suggest two culprits... for battery drain.
- First is the 4G radio, look around at almost ALL 4G enabled phones (whether on GSM at&T Tmo or Verizon), all eat your battery, from the very beginning EVO 4g, Verizon Thunderbolt, Mytough 4G every single one of those phones has the users complaining about horrid battery life. You can confirm this by looking at the battery usage on the G2X and you'll see that the number one use is Cell Standby (that's the cellular radio) on my phone its anywhere between 35% to 60% of total power used.... on kmy nexus one it used to be the display.
-Second, Tegra 2 is more power hungry , granted its a mobile SoC but its mainly designed for Tablets and such with beefy batteries, this is the reason that the Atrix comes with a 1950MaH battery, you can try and use SetCPU to lower the speed, but I have had minimal success.
Here's a test , when you don't need your phone put it on Airplane mode, for 24hours and watch HOW LITTTLE the battery drains.. reason the cellular radio isn't on..
bdkinney said:
This may or may not be related...just something to think about. For years I've placed my phone in the top drawer of my nightstand when sleeping. What I noticed when switching to Android is if I leave syncing on it will drain my battery. My theory is...in the drawer my data signal is very week or non existent. The phone dutifully tries to sync on that weak signal...searching for signal...fails and retries...or succeeds and transfers at a snails pace. Result dead battery. I've found that disabling data before bed results in less than a five percent drop. Just my experience.
If not then I'd suggest a phone swap.
Also...Why in the world did you start another thread? If we scatter all these x is wrong with my phone posts across multiple threads it really hampers the effort to solve the problem.
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I agree. These battery threads are driving me nuts.
Go in the other million threads and read
The thing that is strange to me is how quickly these phones charge. It seems to go from 0% to 100% in well under an hour. Was thinking I should try charging it while off (well, screen w/ battery only).
What???? Having the phone on makes my battery drain? WTFO?!?!?!
Seriously though, I have not experienced bad battery life on this phone. Last night I left my phone off the charger, gps, wifi and wifi calling on, and when I went to bed at 1030 I had 64% battery. At 700 this morning I had 54% battery. Only a 10% drain for me overnight, or a little more than 1% per hour.
All I've done to achieve this is the following (and I realize that supposedly you no longer have to condition Li-ion batteries):
-when I got the phone, I didn't charge it but instead let the battery die completely to where I couldn't even turn the phone on.
-charged the phone overnight w/o turning it on.
-let battery die completely again.
-charged phone overnight w/o turning it on.
-let battery die completely again.
-charge and use phone normally.
I've also rooted the phone and used Ti Backup to remove most all of the bloatware except wifi calling, but otherwise it's the stock rom.
I typically get an entire day of my normal use on this phone. If I use it alot, I have to top off the battery w/ my car charger on my way home from work. This isn't unusual. I had to do this w/ the blackberrys I owned and my evo when I was on Sprint. The battery life doesn't seem any better or worse for me than any other smartphone I have owned, and it's certainly better than my evo or my wife's evo, and both of those were rockin' custom roms and uV kernels.
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when i did a factory reset, my phone was getting hot until i remember about the *#*# thing and changed that to wcdma/gsm auto. then my battery life got better.
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forgot about doing this lolz
...also you can also change it in the mobile network settings
What is your standby drain? I'm looking @ 3.5%/hr.
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What is your standby drain? I'm looking @ 3.5%/hr.
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Mine is more like 7%/hr, which is totally unacceptable, I have all sync turned off, except exchange... with my HD2 running Froyo, I could do 2%/hr with the same settings.... I am still trying to figure out what's draining my battery...
I have also noticed high data usage.. I've tracked it down to T-mobile's AppPack. I've never used the program but it's constantly draining away my data... Is there a way for me to remove the app or disable it?
Thanks!
Get Watchdog from the Amazon appstore to find out what's draining your battery. I believe it costs, but it is a thoroughly useful app
Don't think we can remove carrier apps until we have root...that said, you could try adb pull, but I'm not sure whether it will have any effect. May need root for ab pull, in which case we can't get rid of carrier apps :/ sorry
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What is your standby drain? I'm looking @ 3.5%/hr.
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2-3%
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On my hd2, it was like 1% on idle on android, here it seems to be more , like 3-4% on idle.
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its funny how some people report 0% battery drain in 9 hours and other get 3-4% drain per hour.....
please post how many charge cycles you went through, its important.
I am personally using HD2 and battery live is amazing. and its only 1250
this has the best battery life ive ever saw. I'm in 0ma all the time the phone yesterday lasted from 530 am til 7 pm at night with a lot of text and playing games like homerunbattle 3d. If you play that game you know how much of a battery hog it is. Best battery life. Battery was soo good i barely charged it went to work with a 40% battery and it easily made it through a day with moderate texting all day!!
Gotta say... coming from a TBolt this thing is like sex in a tin can.
Idle is 1-2%/hr probably. I would get 10%+ on my TBolt at times... if not more. It was bad.
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its funny how some people report 0% battery drain in 9 hours and other get 3-4% drain per hour.....
please post how many charge cycles you went through, its important.
I am personally using HD2 and battery live is amazing. and its only 1250
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I did three full charge/discharges .
I lose about 25% in 9 hours at work mostly idle/ minimal use.
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Darn it...
Seems like I'm the only person with excessive battery drain...at 7%/hr....
Just wondering, when you go into battery stats and extend the graph, does your phone stay awake when the screen is off?...
Mine seems to be awake all the time even though the screen is off.
I got Watchdog yesterday, I didn't notice any apps with high CPU usage...
Me too.. I lost about 8%/hour in 2g standby mode... Totally unacceptable comparing to my previous galaxy s...
Hope next FW update will improve it ..
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today is the first time I'm having issues. Only 4 hours since charge & down to 40%. The Awake time shows as 99% of Up Time. Is that normal??? Also, anytime I look at the task manager it shows wifi calling running even though I have it shut off
I've got an Asian model sensation (ie. 3g and not 4G model ) and I find my battery isn't really calibrated properly so its hard to comment on average percentage drop per hour. I've recharged my battery 3 times already and i find the battery stays at 100 percent for around 30 minutes of constant on web browsing, then it will drop at a rate of 10 percent every half an hour with constant use and will fluctuate.
To report on a rough usage breakdown, with all background syncing disabled, I managed to get 10 hours standby before my phone dropped below 10 percent. This was with 5 hours of screen being constantly on doing mainly web browsing on 3g and one 15 minute phone call using my wireless Bluetooth handsfree.
I can report the battery life with constant usage is better than what i got with ny hd2. Running android ROM, it used to do around 3 hours of constant web browsing before the battery will fall under 15 percent. In standby my hd2 used to drop around 1% per hour, which was quite excellent.
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today is the first time I'm having issues. Only 4 hours since charge & down to 40%. The Awake time shows as 99% of Up Time. Is that normal??? Also, anytime I look at the task manager it shows wifi calling running even though I have it shut off
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Those are the stuff I'm talking about, it appears that one of the settings and/or app is constantly using the processor, which causes the phone to stay awake even when the screen is off... I just haven't figured out which app is causing the problem.. I am suspecting it is one of the Tmo apps.
I'm looking at a full battery life of 11 hours, 49 minutes with moderate usage (some calls, decent amount of texting, some games). I use the app/widget "Battery Left" to do its own independent assessment of battery usage and life.
So far the battery reminds me of my early days with my Nexus One -- before I had it rooted and optimized and undervolted. Once rooted and optimized, I saw a good 50% increase (at least in battery life).
If you'd like some relief right now (before we get it rooted), I recommend Juice Defender on the market. It turns off data (among other things) every now and then to save battery, and with this I can squeeze out 18+ hours with moderate usage.
how are you checking the percentage? when I looked in the settings menu, all I see is a long green battery bar, no actual numbers. Or are you all estimating from that?
I don't monitor my standby time, but I'm sitting at what looks like 40% after 13 hours of fairly moderate usage during the day, I'm impressed.
Ive been getting about 9 hours out of a full charge. Had to put my phone on the charger today at around 4 o clock because it was dead. I dont have much more info other than that. I will keep an eye on my processes over the next few days. I have only 3-4 cycles on the battery though.
To check the percentage of the battery life u have to download some battery widget in the market.. I.e smart battery monitor or battery percentage s.th like that...
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You can also check battery level by opening Phone and dialing *#*#4636#*#* and then select Battery information.
I'm using Juice Defender and I have to say it really does the job : my Sensation lasts More than one day and a half (30min calling a day, texting, Android Market, Angry Birds...). Without the app running it would last a day (Angry Birds drains...).
Juice Defender says it is increasing battery to 1,53% and it is very close from reality.
I've been owning the phone from 24th of May.
I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 2, which had a superb battery. There would be days when I would barely use up 20% of the battery on that thing.
I recently moved over to the Droid MAXX and noticed that on the drive to work (about 30 min) this MAXX battery would drop around 10%. I'm feeling a bit disappointed in the decision to go with the MAXX and it was solely based on the mammoth battery. I can't see how people are saying they are getting 2 full days out of this.
I'm not sure if my perception is off because of the Note2 was I spoiled? Is this normal for other MAXX users?
I've attached my GSam screenshot. Normally around this time with the Note 2 i'd be at like 75%, with the MAXX i'm at 59% with Auto Screen (which i dislike) and very normal/low usage.
I was really hoping to be able to hammer on this MAXX and never ever worry about battery life but i find myself anxious about it and wondering if i made the right choice. I would love to hear some other stories about their batteries. Did i get a lemon?
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I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 2, which had a superb battery. There would be days when I would barely use up 20% of the battery on that thing.
I recently moved over to the Droid MAXX and noticed that on the drive to work (about 30 min) this MAXX battery would drop around 10%. I'm feeling a bit disappointed in the decision to go with the MAXX and it was solely based on the mammoth battery. I can't see how people are saying they are getting 2 full days out of this.
I'm not sure if my perception is off because of the Note2 was I spoiled? Is this normal for other MAXX users?
I've attached my GSam screenshot. Normally around this time with the Note 2 i'd be at like 75%, with the MAXX i'm at 59% with Auto Screen (which i dislike) and very normal/low usage.
I was really hoping to be able to hammer on this MAXX and never ever worry about battery life but i find myself anxious about it and wondering if i made the right choice. I would love to hear some other stories about their batteries. Did i get a lemon?
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I suspect a bad battery, or perhaps a rogue app? I've seen a couple of other posts about poor battery so I am wondering if there was a bad batch of batteries.
I am nearly 40 hours off the charger with about 3 1/2 hours of screen time and I'm at 7% remaining. I just watched a 43 minute TV episode and I went from 15% down to 7%. I haven't used any drastic battery saving tricks. I have power save on, that's about it.
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I suspect a bad battery, or perhaps a rogue app? I've seen a couple of other posts about poor battery so I am wondering if there was a bad batch of batteries.
I am nearly 40 hours off the charger with about 3 1/2 hours of screen time and I'm at 7% remaining. I just watched a 43 minute TV episode and I went from 15% down to 7%. I haven't used any drastic battery saving tricks. I have power save on, that's about it.
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have you disabled the bloatware apps?
also i wonder if i try to return it because of the battery issues if they will give me a refurb or not, i fear a refurb will be just one with a similar battery issue. the phone works fine, just not getting the battery life i expected.
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have you disabled the bloatware apps?
also i wonder if i try to return it because of the battery issues if they will give me a refurb or not, i fear a refurb will be just one with a similar battery issue. the phone works fine, just not getting the battery life i expected.
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I have 5 apps frozen, but that is all. Wi-fi has been on almost the entire time too. I'd probably have quite a bit more battery remaining if I'd remember to turn wi-fi off when I'm not near a network.
The location polling of Google cards need disabling. Moto assist while driving also polls GPS as well. That and disabling zap by switching off have been a great help.
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The location polling of Google cards need disabling. Moto assist while driving also polls GPS as well. That and disabling zap by switching off have been a great help.
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Just realized that neither of those were even turned on. Not a good sign.
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Just realized that neither of those were even turned on. Not a good sign.
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under settings/battery what is the top usage? Also does it look like it is being held awake a lot? I always used bettery battery stats and cpu spy to determine if I had an app or process giving me partial wake locks.
I heard good reviews about battery life of Moto G but mine's battery life is disappointing, could you please see my stats and tell me if its normal or something is wrong.
There can be many factors why battery life is that worse. Bad programmed apps, Wifi always on, screen time, call duration, running background processes and so on. Most times i switch my data connection off if i don't need it. I run my phone since 2 days and 8 hours and my battery is on 9% at the moment. As i see your wifi was always on. Try switching it off.
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There can be many factors why battery life is that worse. Bad programmed apps, Wifi always on, screen time, call duration, running background processes and so on. Most times i switch my data connection off if i don't need it. I run my phone since 2 days and 8 hours and my battery is on 9% at the moment. As i see your wifi was always on. Try switching it off.
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Screen on time is around 4 hours, I haven't called even for a second or used my data connection yet, but I keep wifi always on because I thought it causes lesser battery drain.
How can always wifi on cause lesser battery drain?
Don't know, sounds unlogical to me.
4 hours screen on? Phuu........did not try it but i guess it is normal if you have your screen 4 hours on.
What are you expecting? Switching everyting on and then have a two days battery life?
See yourself on your graph how battery got better when screen was off. Now switch off wifi and try again.
In my opinion i don't see any problem with your phone.
Maybe someone might correct me if someone feels that i am .....
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How can always wifi on cause lesser battery drain?
Don't know, sounds unlogical to me.
4 hours screen on? Phuu........did not try it but i guess it is normal if you have your screen 4 hours on.
What are you expecting? Switching everyting on and then have a two days battery life?
See yourself on your graph how battery got better when screen was off. Now switch off wifi and try again.
In my opinion i don't see any problem with your phone.
Maybe someone might correct me if someone feels that i am .....
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I thought Wifi uses lesser battery than 3G and I expected 20 hours battery atleast.
I see your Wifi is working all the time. Are you aware of this?
In some JB Android version google implemented automatic Wifi networks scanning (probably for their purposes), even when Wifi switch swhows "disabled".
You can disable it, maybe it can save some battery: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2422689,00.asp
Cheers.
Install BetterBatteryStats and see if there's any wakelocks that are eating your battery at the moment.
Also, about your on screen time - what's the settings for brightness that you use? You might want to consider dropping the "auto" and go for a reasonable low level of brightness that fits your indoor or outdoor activities.
Your assumption of WiFi eating less batter than data connection is correct in most of the cases.
Anyway, if you have any doubts about this... an average NOTE3 user can't get to those 3h 30minutes with on screen time
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Install BetterBatteryStats and see if there's any wakelocks that are eating your battery at the moment.
Also, about your on screen time - what's the settings for brightness that you use? You might want to consider dropping the "auto" and go for a reasonable low level of brightness that fits your indoor or outdoor activities.
Your assumption of WiFi eating less batter than data connection is correct in most of the cases.
Anyway, if you have any doubts about this... an average NOTE3 user can't get to those 3h 30minutes with on screen time
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538691
Your battery is normal with so much screen on time.
It does look disappointing,i get a lot more than that but mine is rooted and greenified and set up how i like it.
Im currently on 1d 18h and have 39% left with 4 hour screen time and that's with a mixture of wifi and 3G.
i enable airplane mode overnight though which only uses 1% in 8 hours.
I'd say that's normal battery life for this phone here's mine for today.
I'd agree with the previous post.
I've been on a WiFi network for the past 7 hours.
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Battery life has been disappointing ever since smart phones got on the market... Oh good old Nokia 3310 how I miss your battery performance
Seriously something needs to be invented, this cannot be tolerated any longer.
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Battery life has been disappointing ever since smart phones got on the market... Oh good old Nokia 3310 how I miss your battery performance
Seriously something needs to be invented, this cannot be tolerated any longer.
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LOL. I miss my old Nokia too but face it. That old Nokia had a tiny screen and did little more than phone calls and texts.
I've had a few androids and The G is by far the best in terms of battery life.
I miss my indistructable Nokia but I wouldn't go back
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Motorola is advertising this phone as all day battery phone so shouldn't it last more than 12/14 hours.
A car manufacturer also advertises his car with 500 km per full fuel tank. But if you drive all the time with 170 km/h per hour over the highway then this statement can also not be applyed anymore. As i said, i switch on wifi only when i need it and thats the same with data. I had a battery life for nearly 72 hours. Ok i made also less calls in that time. But it is all about your usage. I for my opinion can not find any problem as i said already. Motorola advertised nowhere that you can use your phone under "full load" for a whole day. This is called marketing in todays world. If you be believe everything what advertisement says then you seem for me very naive....... you should think about that
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A car manufacturer also advertises his car with 500 km per full fuel tank. But if you drive all the time with 170 km/h per hour over the highway then this statement can also not be applyed anymore. As i said, i switch on wifi only when i need it and thats the same with data. I had a battery life for nearly 72 hours. Ok i made also less calls in that time. But it is all about your usage. I for my opinion can not find any problem as i said already. Motorola advertised nowhere that you can use your phone under "full load" for a whole day. This is called marketing in todays world. If you be believe everything what advertisement says then you seem for me very naive....... you should think about that
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Atleast the reviews said it last more than a day and I didn't used the phone under full load, just the Wifi was on all the time which uses lesser battery than 3G and I did 0 calls.
It might be true that 3G uses lesser than WI-FI, but what is that for a comparison? You can not compare WIFI and 3G because it is a completly different technology for different purposes. 3G Data uses a lot of Battery that's true. But WIFI also but less than 3G. But this statement doesn't mean that WiFi uses nearly no Battery. It uses only less. If 3G uses 100 parts energy and WiFi uses 85 parts energy out of 100 then it is less. But 85 is still a lot out of hundred. I quoted full load, just as a general statement. I know you had not switched on Bluetooth and so on. But anyway, Dataconnections are a expensive feature in relation to battery life.
Did your review tell you the exact conditions they tested it under? Or did they just say that without any proove? Also Tests and reviews are often copy and paste bull****. If i see an Antivirus test and the Userinterface is tested bad but the userinterface has a 45% weight in the all over test then i would say this is a crap test.
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It might be true that 3G uses lesser than WI-FI, but what is that for a comparison? You can not compare WIFI and 3G because it is a completly different technology for differnet purposes. 3G Data uses a lot of Battery that's true. But WIFI also but less than 3G. But this statement doesn't mean that WiFi uses nearly no Battery. It uses unly less. If 3G uses 100 parts energy and WiFi uses 85 Parts energy out of 100 then it is less. But 85 is still a lot out of hundred. I quoted full load, just as a general statement. I know you had not switched on Bluetooth and so on. But anyway, Dataconnections are a expensive feature in relation Battery life.
Did your review tell you the exact conditions they tested it under? Or did they just say that without any proove? Also Tests and reviews are often copy and paste bull****. If i see an Antivirus test and the Userinterface is tested bad but the userinterface has a 45% weight in the all over test then i would say this is a crap test.
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Yes see the gsmarena battery test I've attached, my phone doesn't even come near to its battery life
Unfortunately I can't take a screenshot but I have a stock (not rooted) Moto G that loses excessive amounts of battery with Aeroplane mode on!
What can possibly be causing such excessive battery drain - 50% -> 7% in 6 hours with no screen on or data or wifi.
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Unfortunately I can't take a screenshot but I have a stock (not rooted) Moto G that loses excessive amounts of battery with Aeroplane mode on!
What can possibly be causing such excessive battery drain - 50% -> 7% in 6 hours with no screen on or data or wifi.
Thanks
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Hi that's a lot of drain i'd say theres some rogue process that runs even in airplane mode with no internet killing the battery i'll attach a screenshot of mine from last night this is with network on but WiFi and data off.