Hi I tried looking for a similar thread but couldn't find one. So I was curious if my g2x battery use is normal. When I look it up my battery use is mostly consumed by cell stand by. I'm not running 4g I'm using 2g. Is this normal?
KSauce86 said:
Hi I tried looking for a similar thread but couldn't find one. So I was curious if my g2x battery use is normal. When I look it up my battery use is mostly consumed by cell stand by. I'm not running 4g I'm using 2g. Is this normal?
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It is normal. If you click on it and your time without a signal is high then you may have a poor signal or another issue. Searching for signal will kill the battery pretty quick.
I clicked on it and I don't get any indication of time without signal. All it says its time on 2h 43m 50s. Could it be the battery it self? I've left the phone mostly idling this whole time and its already down to 86% . I've tried all the tips like only use 2g, lowest display, and juice defender. In like 6 hours I'm down to like almost 55 percent.
Normal idle drain for me is between 2% and 4% an hour. In areas with weak reception such as my office, the drain can be much higher due to the radio switching between 2g and 4g looking for a strong signal. I have gotten into the habbit of switching to 2g only at the office. You might try it for a day as a test to see if it helps. I know it is not a great solution, but it is what it is.
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Hi,
I've searched around on the SGS4G forums, but haven't seemed to find a definitive answer to this question.
If you live in an area where you get good 3G/4G coverage, is it worth having power save options switch your phone to 2G when you turn off the screen for a while (e.g., AOKP's power saver option to switch to 2G after screen off)? As I understand it, turning off that connection will drain additional battery versus just continuing to use the 3G/4G signal that the phone is on. Are the battery use benefits of 2G more than the power cost to switch it off?
If anybody has done an analysis of this, I'd be glad to hear your results. From my own personal experience, it seems like I get slightly better battery life sticking with 3G/4G instead of turning it down to 2G when on standby.
Cheers
FB used the power save recently and got 28hours on a single charge. I think he lives in a decent coverage area.
Was he using a standard battery? That's an impressive amount. Even when I was back on a fresh Octane install and running only essential apps, I got 20 hours at best.
I got 28 hours but only had 34 mins of screen on time. I wasn't using my phone at all, but had 53% battery left when I told eollie that.
Normally with about an hour's screen on time I'm at 50% battery. I tend to get a little over 2 hours of screen on time on a full battery, WITHOUT power saver.
I wasn't able to continue using power saver recently since I'm working on the AOKP update but shh! Keep this between us.
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I get around 1-2 bars on 3/4G
I get 3-4 bars on Edge
I think so.
Here's what you can do if you leave it on your desk with the sim card out. lol Still at 58%.
Haha, yeah, figured. Well, normally I get 3-4 bars on 3/4G, and leaving it on my nightstand in the morning, I get about 1-2% drain per hour if I don't touch it at all. So I can definitely see getting days of battery on just standby with nothing running.
AOKP update. Yeus. Can't wait!
Another good tip for battery life, if you'd like to know it, is to have a single colored dark background. Even better if your icons are darker. If you use a totally black background, with dark-colored icons, it can really help conserve battery. Well, I don't know if it's anything substantial, but it will help.
There isn't much "factual" information out there on 2G vs. 3G/HDSPA power consumption that I could find.
http://blog.famzah.net/2010/05/24/2g-gprs-vs-3g-umts-connection-battery-usage-on-mobile-phones/ suggests that the idle consumption is comparable between 2G and 3G on their specific phone. It also suggests that 3G, when you are transferring data, consumes less energy than 2G since the data can be transferred in a significantly shorter period of time.
I heard good reviews about battery life of Moto G but mine's battery life is disappointing, could you please see my stats and tell me if its normal or something is wrong.
There can be many factors why battery life is that worse. Bad programmed apps, Wifi always on, screen time, call duration, running background processes and so on. Most times i switch my data connection off if i don't need it. I run my phone since 2 days and 8 hours and my battery is on 9% at the moment. As i see your wifi was always on. Try switching it off.
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There can be many factors why battery life is that worse. Bad programmed apps, Wifi always on, screen time, call duration, running background processes and so on. Most times i switch my data connection off if i don't need it. I run my phone since 2 days and 8 hours and my battery is on 9% at the moment. As i see your wifi was always on. Try switching it off.
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Screen on time is around 4 hours, I haven't called even for a second or used my data connection yet, but I keep wifi always on because I thought it causes lesser battery drain.
How can always wifi on cause lesser battery drain?
Don't know, sounds unlogical to me.
4 hours screen on? Phuu........did not try it but i guess it is normal if you have your screen 4 hours on.
What are you expecting? Switching everyting on and then have a two days battery life?
See yourself on your graph how battery got better when screen was off. Now switch off wifi and try again.
In my opinion i don't see any problem with your phone.
Maybe someone might correct me if someone feels that i am .....
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How can always wifi on cause lesser battery drain?
Don't know, sounds unlogical to me.
4 hours screen on? Phuu........did not try it but i guess it is normal if you have your screen 4 hours on.
What are you expecting? Switching everyting on and then have a two days battery life?
See yourself on your graph how battery got better when screen was off. Now switch off wifi and try again.
In my opinion i don't see any problem with your phone.
Maybe someone might correct me if someone feels that i am .....
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I thought Wifi uses lesser battery than 3G and I expected 20 hours battery atleast.
I see your Wifi is working all the time. Are you aware of this?
In some JB Android version google implemented automatic Wifi networks scanning (probably for their purposes), even when Wifi switch swhows "disabled".
You can disable it, maybe it can save some battery: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2422689,00.asp
Cheers.
Install BetterBatteryStats and see if there's any wakelocks that are eating your battery at the moment.
Also, about your on screen time - what's the settings for brightness that you use? You might want to consider dropping the "auto" and go for a reasonable low level of brightness that fits your indoor or outdoor activities.
Your assumption of WiFi eating less batter than data connection is correct in most of the cases.
Anyway, if you have any doubts about this... an average NOTE3 user can't get to those 3h 30minutes with on screen time
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Install BetterBatteryStats and see if there's any wakelocks that are eating your battery at the moment.
Also, about your on screen time - what's the settings for brightness that you use? You might want to consider dropping the "auto" and go for a reasonable low level of brightness that fits your indoor or outdoor activities.
Your assumption of WiFi eating less batter than data connection is correct in most of the cases.
Anyway, if you have any doubts about this... an average NOTE3 user can't get to those 3h 30minutes with on screen time
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538691
Your battery is normal with so much screen on time.
It does look disappointing,i get a lot more than that but mine is rooted and greenified and set up how i like it.
Im currently on 1d 18h and have 39% left with 4 hour screen time and that's with a mixture of wifi and 3G.
i enable airplane mode overnight though which only uses 1% in 8 hours.
I'd say that's normal battery life for this phone here's mine for today.
I'd agree with the previous post.
I've been on a WiFi network for the past 7 hours.
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Battery life has been disappointing ever since smart phones got on the market... Oh good old Nokia 3310 how I miss your battery performance
Seriously something needs to be invented, this cannot be tolerated any longer.
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svetievboris said:
Battery life has been disappointing ever since smart phones got on the market... Oh good old Nokia 3310 how I miss your battery performance
Seriously something needs to be invented, this cannot be tolerated any longer.
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LOL. I miss my old Nokia too but face it. That old Nokia had a tiny screen and did little more than phone calls and texts.
I've had a few androids and The G is by far the best in terms of battery life.
I miss my indistructable Nokia but I wouldn't go back
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Motorola is advertising this phone as all day battery phone so shouldn't it last more than 12/14 hours.
A car manufacturer also advertises his car with 500 km per full fuel tank. But if you drive all the time with 170 km/h per hour over the highway then this statement can also not be applyed anymore. As i said, i switch on wifi only when i need it and thats the same with data. I had a battery life for nearly 72 hours. Ok i made also less calls in that time. But it is all about your usage. I for my opinion can not find any problem as i said already. Motorola advertised nowhere that you can use your phone under "full load" for a whole day. This is called marketing in todays world. If you be believe everything what advertisement says then you seem for me very naive....... you should think about that
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A car manufacturer also advertises his car with 500 km per full fuel tank. But if you drive all the time with 170 km/h per hour over the highway then this statement can also not be applyed anymore. As i said, i switch on wifi only when i need it and thats the same with data. I had a battery life for nearly 72 hours. Ok i made also less calls in that time. But it is all about your usage. I for my opinion can not find any problem as i said already. Motorola advertised nowhere that you can use your phone under "full load" for a whole day. This is called marketing in todays world. If you be believe everything what advertisement says then you seem for me very naive....... you should think about that
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Atleast the reviews said it last more than a day and I didn't used the phone under full load, just the Wifi was on all the time which uses lesser battery than 3G and I did 0 calls.
It might be true that 3G uses lesser than WI-FI, but what is that for a comparison? You can not compare WIFI and 3G because it is a completly different technology for different purposes. 3G Data uses a lot of Battery that's true. But WIFI also but less than 3G. But this statement doesn't mean that WiFi uses nearly no Battery. It uses only less. If 3G uses 100 parts energy and WiFi uses 85 parts energy out of 100 then it is less. But 85 is still a lot out of hundred. I quoted full load, just as a general statement. I know you had not switched on Bluetooth and so on. But anyway, Dataconnections are a expensive feature in relation to battery life.
Did your review tell you the exact conditions they tested it under? Or did they just say that without any proove? Also Tests and reviews are often copy and paste bull****. If i see an Antivirus test and the Userinterface is tested bad but the userinterface has a 45% weight in the all over test then i would say this is a crap test.
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It might be true that 3G uses lesser than WI-FI, but what is that for a comparison? You can not compare WIFI and 3G because it is a completly different technology for differnet purposes. 3G Data uses a lot of Battery that's true. But WIFI also but less than 3G. But this statement doesn't mean that WiFi uses nearly no Battery. It uses unly less. If 3G uses 100 parts energy and WiFi uses 85 Parts energy out of 100 then it is less. But 85 is still a lot out of hundred. I quoted full load, just as a general statement. I know you had not switched on Bluetooth and so on. But anyway, Dataconnections are a expensive feature in relation Battery life.
Did your review tell you the exact conditions they tested it under? Or did they just say that without any proove? Also Tests and reviews are often copy and paste bull****. If i see an Antivirus test and the Userinterface is tested bad but the userinterface has a 45% weight in the all over test then i would say this is a crap test.
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Yes see the gsmarena battery test I've attached, my phone doesn't even come near to its battery life
Unfortunately I can't take a screenshot but I have a stock (not rooted) Moto G that loses excessive amounts of battery with Aeroplane mode on!
What can possibly be causing such excessive battery drain - 50% -> 7% in 6 hours with no screen on or data or wifi.
Thanks
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Unfortunately I can't take a screenshot but I have a stock (not rooted) Moto G that loses excessive amounts of battery with Aeroplane mode on!
What can possibly be causing such excessive battery drain - 50% -> 7% in 6 hours with no screen on or data or wifi.
Thanks
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Hi that's a lot of drain i'd say theres some rogue process that runs even in airplane mode with no internet killing the battery i'll attach a screenshot of mine from last night this is with network on but WiFi and data off.
I've noticed that when I leave my phone idle at work, it will drain about 2% an hour even though my signal is stronger (usually around -95 dB). At home, I have a fairly weak LTE signal (usually -100 to -105), but my device will not drain nearly as quickly when idle.
I've been sitting at my desk for the last 3 hours, with maybe 2 or 3 minutes of SoT and it's gone from 90% down to 84%. At home, I'd see about 1-2% drop in the same amount of time.
Are there any engineers out there who would know why this thing would happen? Is it because the phone is switching back and forth between different towers?
This didn't happen with my G3 as the behaviour and battery drain was consistent amongst the two locations.
Do you use wifi when at home and not at work?
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Do you use wifi when at home and not at work?
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I'm an idiot. This is probably it. I'll leave wifi off tonight to make sure.
Though, this now leads me to another question - Is the S6 really that bad when on LTE? As I mentioned in my prior post, my G3 did not drain this much and I didn't use wifi at work with that one either.
Hey guys
I've had this phoen a few weeks, and battery life has been great. Idles well, whether on wifi or 4g....phone idles very well, 2 to 4% per hour.
I recently had my desk moved to an area where cell coverage is BAD. Even on wifi, you can see t he icon go from 3g to 1x, back n forth. signal is weak...but enough to make calls and txt. This is KILLING my battery. I lose 8 to 12% an hour during idling.
Is this normal for phones in dead areas? ANy suggestions?
Thanks
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Hey guys
I've had this phoen a few weeks, and battery life has been great. Idles well, whether on wifi or 4g....phone idles very well, 2 to 4% per hour.
I recently had my desk moved to an area where cell coverage is BAD. Even on wifi, you can see t he icon go from 3g to 1x, back n forth. signal is weak...but enough to make calls and txt. This is KILLING my battery. I lose 8 to 12% an hour during idling.
Is this normal for phones in dead areas? ANy suggestions?
Thanks
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Yes, that sounds normal for the conditions you described. Being in an area where the radio is constantly losing signal and having to reconnect is a very large drain on the battery.
Not much you can do unless you get a signal booster installed.
wishfull thinking i geuss, haha
Previous phones, I would just change the network to just 1x. this usually helped...
Thanks!!!
Not to dig up an old thread....but this is gettign worse...
If I get a network extender (provided I can get it to get GPS), will this prevent the phone from constantly looking? or will the phone still search...
Thanks!
Hello,
I recently picked up a OP6 and I'm really pleased with it overall but SOT has been a little disappointing. At least I think it has depending which battery app I consult!
Accubattery Pro thinks I'm getting an average 8h 16m of SOT (this is definitely not correct!).
GSM Battery Monitor PRO reckons 4h 46m of SOT (which still seems a bit high).
In the battery tab of the Settings menu it reckons having used 65% of my battery I've had 2h 50m SOT (ie. from 100% after 2hr 50m of SOT I'm now sitting on 35%). I think this equates to about 4h 30m of SOT if I continued at the same pace. I guess this tallies pretty closely to the GSM Battery Monitor PRO so maybe this is about accurate.
I've followed the guide here to get the most SOT but 4h 30m seems on the low given that I don't game or stream, don't have FB installed etc. This is purely webbrowsing, a bit of YT and a podcast app (listening to downloaded podcasts rather than streamed if that makes a difference).
Nothing in the battery stats seems that unusual (please see attached). What does seem a little odd is that I'm not in a great spot for mobile reception but looking at the stats it doesn't look like the radio is draining the battery.
Any advice on how to delve deeper? I'm 100% stock and not rooted.
Any advice for a OP newbie is much appreciated
Hmmmm Better Battery Stats seems to tell a rather different story especially around the radio reception.
Again any advice much appreciated!
The poor signal is killing you. When the signal is poor it pumps out more juice trying to stay connected. If you will be in an area with poor signal and won't be using your phone I suggest putting it in airplane mode or maybe setting it to 3G as a proof of concept. If your battery is much better then you found your issue
Also wifi scanning is turned on,which is a battery killer. Turn it off and you can see a great difference
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The poor signal is killing you. When the signal is poor it pumps out more juice trying to stay connected. If you will be in an area with poor signal and won't be using your phone I suggest putting it in airplane mode or maybe setting it to 3G as a proof of concept. If your battery is much better then you found your issue
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Thanks Spartan! The problem is poor indoor reception with the signal constantly cutting in and out. As such airplane mode may be the ultimate option but obviously it's a bit of a bummer as a long term solution! I'm going to try another provider which claims to have better indoor coverage in my area.
Question #1 - you mention trying setting to 3G as a proof of concept. Is that because a 2G/3G uses less power to connect than searching for a 4G connection? Should I try the 2G only option before the 3G one?
Question #2 - if I do try 2G/3G (before trying airplane mode) should I turn off mobile data too or does that make a difference?
Question #3 - I'm guessing having 2 sims installed makes the problem even worse as both are constantly calling for signal? I typically use one for data and one for voice.
Question #4 - when some folks post their battery graphs they have a picture which shows the mobile and wifi signal (see attached as an example). I don't seem to be able to find this. Was it removed from the latest update as the battery section seems to have changed a bit.
Thanks again!
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Also wifi scanning is turned on,which is a battery killer. Turn it off and you can see a great difference
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Thanks for taking the time to reply!
Strangely I don't think I do have wifi scanning on (please see attached screenshots)! Location services are also off.
Are you thinking I do because the wifi is on 100% of the time?
Could this be because an app is somehow keeping it awake?
Hmmm can't see an option to check if "keep wifi on during sleep" is enabled. Has this been removed from 9.0.2?