[Q] external hard drive? - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Whilst waiting for my transformer to arrive I'm wondering what other toys I could get to go alongside it. I believe that android now has USB host but could I get one of those small USB drives to work with it? I'm looking at a small drive that would require power from the USB ..... can the Asus power such an item???

is there really nobody who can tell me if i can power an external mini HD from the USB ports ?

The thing is, I doubt many people actually have the keyboard dock yet - so until they are more freely available your guess is as good as anybody's

wilbur-force said:
is there really nobody who can tell me if i can power an external mini HD from the USB ports ?
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I'm sure there are just give them more than 20 minutes

I would say it it has external power source or runs on its own battery it should work. I would assume your tablet couldn't power it for long
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killermojo said:
I'm sure there are just give them more than 20 minutes
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lol... nice try but i gave them 24 hours and 20 minutes
I understand that the keyboard is rare/unavailable but its more of an android principle thing ... is there any reason why android wouldnt support a USB HD ?
I believe that USB host is now available but does Android allow power out via USB ?

The battery in the dock could help sustain power draining USB devices.

I think this is what your looking for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDCAM-qYB40&feature=player_embedded
So seems like yes it can.

BongoBong said:
I think this is what your looking for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDCAM-qYB40&feature=player_embedded
So seems like yes it can.
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You, sir, are a gentleman ..... looks like I can start shopping again while I await delivery

wilbur-force said:
lol... nice try but i gave them 24 hours and 20 minutes
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Oh whoops! Well in that case- took long enough, XDA!

NTFS HDD supported?
Anybody knows if NTFS formatted HDD will work out of the box?

NTFS support
Someone in this forum just mentioned that in the Tranformer user manual page 35, it mentioned Tuxera software that provides NTFS interoperability.
Now, with that info from the Transformer user manual, it gives a big hope that it does support NTFS.
Anyone with a Transformer, can you guys confirm that it will read NTFS formatted HDD?

I've just tried that with an external 750Gb hard drive formatted to NTFS - it has mounted successfully and can browse files just fine! Whee!

WD passport works fine on mine.. 250g ntfs
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WD External HDD NTFS works well.
Some brandless Fat32 thumbdrive is working as well.
However, i cant get my sandisk cruzer fat32 to work
when i plug it in, the notification bar will show 'preparing to connect' for like 1 second and gone. The thumbdrive is then not mounted. Initially ive tot that it was due to U3 launchpad on the cruzer, so ive tried to reformat it and removed the launchpad. However, it is still not working. Anyone with similar experience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfkZeIT9qmY&feature=feedlik
Video showing user running an external 2.5 hardrive. Although it's connected to the dock there's no reason why you couldn't buy a USB female to female cable and plug the slate into the adapter/power cable > USB female to female > external dard drive

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[Q] is it possible to connect a hard drive

is it possible to connect a hard drive to the dock
i have a 250gb WD hard drive
and how
thanks in advance
daniel9522 said:
is it possible to connect a hard drive to the dock
i have a 250gb WD hard drive
and how
thanks in advance
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Goto youtube and search Asus Transformer - USB, Wireless Mouse, SD Card, External HD
I'm using the Logitech M570 wireless trackball. As far as external HD, I was able to insert a usb flash drive and it recognized it right away.
I tested my TF with a 500 GB portable HD (Western Digital) today, and it worked flawlessly. I was initially unsure if the tablet would be able to power the HD, but no probs on that count.
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daniel9522 said:
is it possible to connect a hard drive to the dock
i have a 250gb WD hard drive
and how
thanks in advance
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Yes, just plug it in and it should be detected without any problem. I have a 500GB 2 1/2 inch external drive with a single usb lead which provides power and data and it worked first time and works great for viewing larger hd movies that would be impractical to store on microsd.
Im assuming you mean an external Hard Drive or do you just have an internal drive you want to connect?
Mark.
it recognized for like half a second
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it recognized for like half a second
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What type of external HardDrive are you trying to connect (2.5inch or 3.5inch)?
Which file system is it formatted with?
Mark.
daniel9522 said:
it recognized for like half a second
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If your form factor is 2.5 inch then you power it by the USB
If it's a 3.5 you'll have to power it externally via it's supplied power cable
I use a Seagate 1tb 2.5 and it doesn't matter if i format to HTFS or FAT32 it all works good
My micro SD cards are only recognised if formated to FAT32
daniel9522 said:
is it possible to connect a hard drive to the dock
i have a 250gb WD hard drive
and how
thanks in advance
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Lots of posts on success doing this. search>
unable to format HTFS or FAT32
only ntfs
daniel9522 said:
unable to format HTFS or FAT32
only ntfs
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Why are you unable to format to Fat32?
Mark.
i tried something else and now i can format ntfs and exfat
but ex fat also wont read on the tf
thanks for all the help
i install] Netformer...eating all the pies, Testing: 1.5
and formatted my hdd to ntfs
and it is opening up on my TF
Hello, Is it possible to connect the WD external HD( external power source) to the usb on the screen part of the tablet. Thank you
braudia said:
Hello, Is it possible to connect the WD external HD( external power source) to the usb on the screen part of the tablet. Thank you
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Try it and see
Mark.
Im just hoping to get a usb adapto an be able to connect a hd directly to my tablet...
For movies in the road
I can get my dog to walk on his hind legs. It's amusing but has no practical purpose, such as you are suggesting.
Paper that comes with USB adapter states 'flash memory up to 32gb formatted fat32' not tried anything else yet...
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[Q] Hard Drives Compatible With USB ?

Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY
well there is no usb 3.0 support so those are out unless you get a backwards compatible one. And you also have to check the power consumption i think it hase to be bellow 15volts but im not sure
As far as I know all USB 3.0 drives are backward compatible.
from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs
mrevankyle said:
from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs
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What. There are 4 kinds of USB (not counting on the go, wireless and eventually others) : USB 1.0, USB 1.1, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0
Hi-Speed USB means just USB 2.0, Super Speed is USB 3.0 and the older ones are plain and simply USB.
The theorical top speeds are: 1.5mbps, 12mbps, 480mbps and finally 4000mbps
High speed was briefly and not standardized with USB 1.1 so some device makers had that nonsense on their hubs.
Maybe you misunderstood? Some drives don't like some hubs, but that's a power requirement... If the drive needs x volts and the hub can't offer them because it's already sharing the power with other devices and has no wall plug to get extra power, the drive will just spin up and down without ever starting. 3.5" drives always need their own power adapter, so those always work, 2.5" ones usually draw the power from the USB and as such might be a little hit and miss with hubs, however the Transformer powers them up quite well.
Western Digital makes awesome, reliable, fast and quiet drives, I do have an USB 2.0 My Passport... And several others in various devices
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shaneledford said:
Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY
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I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.
Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.
AcIdC0R3 said:
I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.
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So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
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droidjens said:
Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.
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Thanks everyone. So far It looks like this one is a pretty good choice. It has good reviews and if its confirmed working on the Transformer I might go ahead and grab it.
Hope it'll serve you well.
I just remembered that I had to re-format it to NTFS before the Transformer would recognize it. Just thought I'd let you know.
AlexTheStampede said:
So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
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...but extremely dependable, very effective and lower power consuming than any of those Buffalo drives. I have a Buffalo NAS drive and they're good for that but as for using one for a portable drive I would not. If you're going to use a regular HDD I would at least go with a Seagate or Western Digital drive as they tend to be better drives and are far quieter than any other brand on the market today. Yeah it may be a little more expensive but it's worth it. At least it was for me that is.
i have a 350g western digital that ive had forever.
This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.
r_nt said:
This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.
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why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...
sonami said:
why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...
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Only one of the cards is micro; the other is full-sized. No switching necessary.

[Q] USB Adapter to work with ext hd

Hi,
I was curious if anyone got an ext hd to work with the usb adapter?
Everytime i plug it in, it tells me a "high powered ext hd" is connected but unable to read..i know it was made for usb sticks and keyboards etc but has anyone gotten ext hd to work?
Thanks!
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I found my 1Tb Hitachi Touro was detected to start with but the power was insufficient to leave it on. It was not working after a few seconds of being plugged in. Memory sticks are no problem but the HDD sucked more power than the 10.1 wants to give...
Shame that an awesome tablet that runs rings around just about everything else falls short of my Acer Icona A501 for this...:crying:
I used a 1A externa battery to power an HDD and it worked just fine on the Note. The HDD was NTFS, but I used USB Mass Storage Watcher and mounted the partitions.
To get it ti power on you need a split USB/ power cable.
Yeah, my Acer A700 has this ability but unfortunately the Samsung Note doesn't have the power.
The fix is to buy a self-powered USB hub... Or use high capacity thumb drives.
Or use a hard drive with provisions for external power.
I plugged my ext powered hd but still no luck. Oh wells! Or maybe split line usb and ac like someone recommended
Thanks guys!
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ngocdao said:
I plugged my ext powered hd but still no luck. Oh wells! Or maybe split line usb and ac like someone recommended
Thanks guys!
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Split USB is your best bet. No hub needed, just an external source of power like a portable battery.
Yeah, but it bites my kickass up-to-date sammy tablet is put in its place by my 18 month old Acer Iconia A501 that supports the 1Tb 2.5" HDD with no problem.
I think this bites a bit. Makes life hard If I need more storage than most thumb drives supply...
No how am I supposed to take a veritable video store with me to watch....
If you could run an external hd via USB it would drain the battery pretty quickly.
Nope, get at least 6 hours of watching videos from the 1Tb hdd on the acer Iconia A501... The battery is not as beefy as the SGnote 10.1's either...
Just an oversite by samsung...
Just a pain now having to carry 2 tablets around...
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If you could run an external hd via USB it would drain the battery pretty quickly.
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It won't because the Note will not provide power to the HDD, you have to use external power.

Probably an easy question but, External Hard Disks?

Hi All
Finally been able to order a TF700 from Amazon in the UK, I'm off travelling around Europe at the end of next week and intend to take the 700 with me, my question is can I take my external 1TB drive with me and use it as storage (for films, music etc)
Thanks all in advance
Should be doable, although much depends on the power consumption of the drive -- I haven't got a portable model on hand to test it for you. A power-hungry model could either drain the battery too fast to be practical, or it may just be plain impossible to power it from the tablet, causing it to just bork out on you.
Obvisouly, a powered model would cope just fine,but that's not very practical when travelling, isn't it? I have read reports of people using external hard drives on the TF700 before, so I guess it shouldn't pose too much of a problem, though.
Off-topic: where are you going?
assuming you have the keyboard dock too, not only for the USB port but for the extra battery capacity too.
but my WD 750gb works just fine!
I'd suggest MXPlayer 'cause the stock apps suck at decoding divx and other random container formats.
MartyHulskemper said:
Should be doable, although much depends on the power consumption of the drive -- I haven't got a portable model on hand to test it for you. A power-hungry model could either drain the battery too fast to be practical, or it may just be plain impossible to power it from the tablet, causing it to just bork out on you.
Obvisouly, a powered model would cope just fine,but that's not very practical when travelling, isn't it? I have read reports of people using external hard drives on the TF700 before, so I guess it shouldn't pose too much of a problem, though.
Off-topic: where are you going?
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Cool thanks, just ordered a Toshiba Stor.e Alu 1TB (ebay special buy) which is bus powered, should both be here on the 2nd so will plug it into the dock to check.
I am heading down to Spain as I have an apartment there then going to see where the mood takes me, I have 3 months off work (well I say off work, taking the Infinity with an RDP program and my iPhone so I can tether the data) that way I can still work from where ever I am!
The infinity + dock seems the perfect device for me, can carry it easily, brilliant battery life and the full qwerty keyboard.
I plugged a 500GB bus powered USB drive into the dock USB port and it works great!
My 2TB Western Digital MyPassport works just fine. I did format it to get rid of the silly software, though. Don't really notice any powerdrain at all.
I've somewhat accomplished this before with a 2-usb hard drive. The main usb port for transferring I plugged into the infinity, and I plugged the port for power into a portable external battery. It was recognized as another SD card on my infinity. It worked flawlessly when transferring 800MB+ files.
tefal said:
Hi All
Finally been able to order a TF700 from Amazon in the UK, I'm off travelling around Europe at the end of next week and intend to take the 700 with me, my question is can I take my external 1TB drive with me and use it as storage (for films, music etc)
Thanks all in advance
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Yup. It works. Mine is WD 1TB, connected via USB of the dock.
I've tried plugging in a standard usb drive (8gb thumb drive) in the usb port before but I can't browse to it in the stock file browser,"external storage"just shows as empty. Do you use a special app for that?
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I use a Seagate 2.5" external. It transfers fine and is recognized but playing videos using either mxplayer or bsplayer is imperfect. There is a lot of stutter. My imperfect solution is to rotate out video files on my device.
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Diogenes5 said:
I use a Seagate 2.5" external. It transfers fine and is recognized but playing videos using either mxplayer or bsplayer is imperfect. There is a lot of stutter. My imperfect solution is to rotate out video files on my device.
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Not only is an external a great solution, and works perfectly with the dock. It also has a really nice transfer rate. I was getting over 20mb/ps transferring from my 128gb flash drive to the micro sd. I have yet to spring for a 128 sdxc for the dock, but it's on my list.
So far I tried:
- External usb 2.0 disks
- Wireless mouse
- Linksys usb to ethernet
- Usb sticks
The dock's usb port seems to accept anything: even ethernet that allows me to even use my Infinity in the basement of my house (only wired connections there)
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Thanks for all the input folks, shall experiment with the dock and hdd when they arrive next week! Quite excited, like a big kid lol
Wow good info in this thread. I never even thought to try my external hd with my infinity dock. Will save a ton of time during file transfers.
I was surprised no one else had asked the question really
tefal said:
I was surprised no one else had asked the question really
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I'm one of those people that traded in there TF201 for TF700... I know this was asked and answered early on in the TF201 threads, so I guess I just carried over from there and never bothered asking it again.
For those that care I also had success with a USB 3.0 External right away. It comes with a secondary USB to power cable but that has never actually needed to be used. The USB 3.0 is actually an internal from my laptop in a USB 3.0 case (Put a SSD in lappy ). So long story short USB 3.0 devices should also work but at 2.0 speeds.
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The USB 3.0 is actually an internal from my laptop in a USB 3.0 case (Put a SSD in lappy ).
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I did the same thing with my laptop, but shortly there after, I came to realize that I wasn't using it at all in complete favor of my TF201/700.... Now I've got a lappy with a pretty 120 ssd, and not being used. Coincidentally, I have more space than that in my tablet now...
right so that we have established that external USB hdd's work, what about external dvd drives and other external devices?
tefal said:
right so that we have established that external USB hdd's work, what about external dvd drives and other external devices?
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I can test it tomorrow, but I would imagine the storage part of it would work. The issues you would run into is not being able to write to it, not being able to play a regular dvd movie as it would have to be mp4 formatted, and other minor issues that require software support.
We already know gamepads, keyboards, mice, flash drives, sd card readers, and other such work..

[INFO] External hard drives working with note 3!

Hi all,
Just to let you know, today i connected a 500GB transcend drive (USB 2.0) to my note 3 using a USB OTG cable (not original samsung) and surprisingly it was able to give enough power to it on its own and read and play the contents. i successfully played a movie from it...
only downside is that the battery started draining like crazy..i lost 2 percent in about 2 minutes..
anyway..just thought u all should know.
cheers!
I just wish it could read NTFS drives..
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My 2 tb western digital my passport drive also worked and I was able to wafch a full movie too. No ntfs.support for.me too. Could you please cknfirm ifnpaeagon ntfs works for you? It doesnt work on my n9005 but it seems like other android.users are able to read ntfs drives with it. Could someone also check if their n9005 is able to recognize multiple partitions? Mine only recognizes the 1st partition.
kirtandoshi said:
Hi all,
Just to let you know, today i connected a 500GB transcend drive (USB 2.0) to my note 3 using a USB OTG cable (not original samsung) and surprisingly it was able to give enough power to it on its own and read and play the contents. i successfully played a movie from it...
only downside is that the battery started draining like crazy..i lost 2 percent in about 2 minutes..
anyway..just thought u all should know.
cheers!
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Crazy N Cool Experience
Thanks
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It reads my 500GB exFat flawlessly

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