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[Q] external hard drive?

Whilst waiting for my transformer to arrive I'm wondering what other toys I could get to go alongside it. I believe that android now has USB host but could I get one of those small USB drives to work with it? I'm looking at a small drive that would require power from the USB ..... can the Asus power such an item???

is there really nobody who can tell me if i can power an external mini HD from the USB ports ?

The thing is, I doubt many people actually have the keyboard dock yet - so until they are more freely available your guess is as good as anybody's

wilbur-force said:
is there really nobody who can tell me if i can power an external mini HD from the USB ports ?
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I'm sure there are just give them more than 20 minutes

I would say it it has external power source or runs on its own battery it should work. I would assume your tablet couldn't power it for long
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killermojo said:
I'm sure there are just give them more than 20 minutes
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lol... nice try but i gave them 24 hours and 20 minutes
I understand that the keyboard is rare/unavailable but its more of an android principle thing ... is there any reason why android wouldnt support a USB HD ?
I believe that USB host is now available but does Android allow power out via USB ?

The battery in the dock could help sustain power draining USB devices.

I think this is what your looking for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDCAM-qYB40&feature=player_embedded
So seems like yes it can.

BongoBong said:
I think this is what your looking for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDCAM-qYB40&feature=player_embedded
So seems like yes it can.
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You, sir, are a gentleman ..... looks like I can start shopping again while I await delivery

wilbur-force said:
lol... nice try but i gave them 24 hours and 20 minutes
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Oh whoops! Well in that case- took long enough, XDA!

NTFS HDD supported?
Anybody knows if NTFS formatted HDD will work out of the box?

NTFS support
Someone in this forum just mentioned that in the Tranformer user manual page 35, it mentioned Tuxera software that provides NTFS interoperability.
Now, with that info from the Transformer user manual, it gives a big hope that it does support NTFS.
Anyone with a Transformer, can you guys confirm that it will read NTFS formatted HDD?

I've just tried that with an external 750Gb hard drive formatted to NTFS - it has mounted successfully and can browse files just fine! Whee!

WD passport works fine on mine.. 250g ntfs
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WD External HDD NTFS works well.
Some brandless Fat32 thumbdrive is working as well.
However, i cant get my sandisk cruzer fat32 to work
when i plug it in, the notification bar will show 'preparing to connect' for like 1 second and gone. The thumbdrive is then not mounted. Initially ive tot that it was due to U3 launchpad on the cruzer, so ive tried to reformat it and removed the launchpad. However, it is still not working. Anyone with similar experience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfkZeIT9qmY&feature=feedlik
Video showing user running an external 2.5 hardrive. Although it's connected to the dock there's no reason why you couldn't buy a USB female to female cable and plug the slate into the adapter/power cable > USB female to female > external dard drive

[Q] USB unpowered external HDD

Wanted to ask those who already have their tablet and dock whether you can plug a USB external HDD (without its own power) into the USB port and use it, or whether external HDD need to have their own power supply? Does the USB port on the dock provide enough power to external HDD?

yes, I've got a 500GB passport and it works great, I stor my movies on it and had no problem playing directly from the hard drive

sapiers said:
yes, I've got a 500GB passport and it works great, I stor my movies on it and had no problem playing directly from the hard drive
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Thats brilliant news as I have a passport drive as well....just waiting for my dock now.

and it can read and write to ntfs formatted drives. so no 4gb limit.

yep..my western digital portable works perfect on TF.. not sure about those requires additional powers..but it makes sense they should work well too

sweet, i was worried that the dock wouldn't provide enough power to my passport. Man i love those little drives

I've got a simpletech 160GB formatted NTFS and can't find it on the USB port. Any help?
Thanks.

I was able to get my Seagate Freeagent GO drive to work perfectly through the keyboard dock. In fact, I had an SD card, USB mouse and external HD all going at the same time
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What would be the difference between a 3.0 usb drive and a 2.0 usb drive? I think the usb ports on the TF are 3.0. TIA - sheureka

interesing.. I can power the drive fine (which is more than I can do from some of the usb ports on my desktop ).
usb 3 seems to have more connections and more power... i noticed that the ps for the tf is 15v vs 5v for standard usb.. I don't know about speed differences though. there are some threads on blown ps's with extension cables too so there is something specific here.
so. i think it's great that the usb here can power a hdd!

Its running usb 2.0
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Need to be careful. Many people are using USB connectors to do things that are very different than spec. Bottom line a physical USB connector may not have USB signals & power on it.

I think it's the drive as it runs fine on my computer, reformatted it NTFS, and even with plugged into both usb ports it still doesn't read in the TF.
USB powers it, tried usb mouse okay, sd card in kb is fine too.
I don't have a problem getting another hdd (maybe one listed here as working).
any other thoughts appreciated.

I am having a similar problem with a WD 500GB and an Oyen esata/USB 2.0 enclosure. Drive works fine on powered USB 2.0 port on my laptop, but not on the Transformer. The drive powers on, the Removable Storage notification flashes, but the drive is not recognized.

sheureka said:
What would be the difference between a 3.0 usb drive and a 2.0 usb drive? I think the usb ports on the TF are 3.0. TIA - sheureka
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Speed and power required. USB 3 is a lot faster.
USB 2.0 ~60MB/sec
USB 3.0 up to 640MB/sec

Prime 1.5 solved the problem. Apparently some custom kernels cannot handle NTFS.

my transformer would freeze if I tried plugging in a drive with multiple partitions, not sure how many partitions it supports formatted the drive to one partition and all is well

I have a Maxtor 3200 Personal storage 500GB with own power supply and it works.
I also have a Seagate 1TB Expansion Portable drive USB2.0 powered and this also works.

Powers up hdd but no recognition
TF101 3.2.1 Build HTK7.US_epad-8.6.5.13 stock
I am having similar issues as Adam. I have a 1TB Buffalo Ministation. My win vista pc also didn't see it initially... had to download the driver. Then I formatted it with a 32GB FAT32 partition and did the rest NTFS. My dvd player couldn't see the NTFS so I tried it to exFAT. Took all night, and still no compatibility (had to try). So now I formatted it back to NTFS. The transformer hasn't been able to recognize it in any formatted format. Not even the FAT32 bit. But it does power it nicely.
Hope someone has a trick up their sleeve, this little hdd is so portable!
SOLVED! I plugged it in on the other side (which is the left side of the dock) and VOILA! I have NTFS and the partitioned FAT32 access. How nice Now to figure out if I can somehow use it without the dock.....

I have a 2.5" 750gb Seagate Momentus HDD and a 2.5" 120gb OCZ Vertex 3 SSD both can be powered just fine by the TF. Using the Vertex 3 drive uses less power than my Seagate Momentus because there are no moving parts so I prefer it.
Incidentally, the TF uses USB 2.0 ports, not 3.0. You can use a USB 3.0 cable as it is backward compatible to 2.0. My Vertex 3 has a USB 3.0 type interface on the external enclosure it's housed in but it kicks back to 2.0 speeds while plugged into the TF which is more than enough while watching movies from it.

[Q] USB Adapter to work with ext hd

Hi,
I was curious if anyone got an ext hd to work with the usb adapter?
Everytime i plug it in, it tells me a "high powered ext hd" is connected but unable to read..i know it was made for usb sticks and keyboards etc but has anyone gotten ext hd to work?
Thanks!
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I found my 1Tb Hitachi Touro was detected to start with but the power was insufficient to leave it on. It was not working after a few seconds of being plugged in. Memory sticks are no problem but the HDD sucked more power than the 10.1 wants to give...
Shame that an awesome tablet that runs rings around just about everything else falls short of my Acer Icona A501 for this...:crying:

I used a 1A externa battery to power an HDD and it worked just fine on the Note. The HDD was NTFS, but I used USB Mass Storage Watcher and mounted the partitions.
To get it ti power on you need a split USB/ power cable.

Yeah, my Acer A700 has this ability but unfortunately the Samsung Note doesn't have the power.
The fix is to buy a self-powered USB hub... Or use high capacity thumb drives.

Or use a hard drive with provisions for external power.

I plugged my ext powered hd but still no luck. Oh wells! Or maybe split line usb and ac like someone recommended
Thanks guys!
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ngocdao said:
I plugged my ext powered hd but still no luck. Oh wells! Or maybe split line usb and ac like someone recommended
Thanks guys!
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Split USB is your best bet. No hub needed, just an external source of power like a portable battery.

Yeah, but it bites my kickass up-to-date sammy tablet is put in its place by my 18 month old Acer Iconia A501 that supports the 1Tb 2.5" HDD with no problem.
I think this bites a bit. Makes life hard If I need more storage than most thumb drives supply...
No how am I supposed to take a veritable video store with me to watch....

If you could run an external hd via USB it would drain the battery pretty quickly.

Nope, get at least 6 hours of watching videos from the 1Tb hdd on the acer Iconia A501... The battery is not as beefy as the SGnote 10.1's either...
Just an oversite by samsung...
Just a pain now having to carry 2 tablets around...

donec said:
If you could run an external hd via USB it would drain the battery pretty quickly.
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It won't because the Note will not provide power to the HDD, you have to use external power.

Probably an easy question but, External Hard Disks?

Hi All
Finally been able to order a TF700 from Amazon in the UK, I'm off travelling around Europe at the end of next week and intend to take the 700 with me, my question is can I take my external 1TB drive with me and use it as storage (for films, music etc)
Thanks all in advance

Should be doable, although much depends on the power consumption of the drive -- I haven't got a portable model on hand to test it for you. A power-hungry model could either drain the battery too fast to be practical, or it may just be plain impossible to power it from the tablet, causing it to just bork out on you.
Obvisouly, a powered model would cope just fine,but that's not very practical when travelling, isn't it? I have read reports of people using external hard drives on the TF700 before, so I guess it shouldn't pose too much of a problem, though.
Off-topic: where are you going?

assuming you have the keyboard dock too, not only for the USB port but for the extra battery capacity too.
but my WD 750gb works just fine!
I'd suggest MXPlayer 'cause the stock apps suck at decoding divx and other random container formats.

MartyHulskemper said:
Should be doable, although much depends on the power consumption of the drive -- I haven't got a portable model on hand to test it for you. A power-hungry model could either drain the battery too fast to be practical, or it may just be plain impossible to power it from the tablet, causing it to just bork out on you.
Obvisouly, a powered model would cope just fine,but that's not very practical when travelling, isn't it? I have read reports of people using external hard drives on the TF700 before, so I guess it shouldn't pose too much of a problem, though.
Off-topic: where are you going?
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Cool thanks, just ordered a Toshiba Stor.e Alu 1TB (ebay special buy) which is bus powered, should both be here on the 2nd so will plug it into the dock to check.
I am heading down to Spain as I have an apartment there then going to see where the mood takes me, I have 3 months off work (well I say off work, taking the Infinity with an RDP program and my iPhone so I can tether the data) that way I can still work from where ever I am!
The infinity + dock seems the perfect device for me, can carry it easily, brilliant battery life and the full qwerty keyboard.

I plugged a 500GB bus powered USB drive into the dock USB port and it works great!

My 2TB Western Digital MyPassport works just fine. I did format it to get rid of the silly software, though. Don't really notice any powerdrain at all.

I've somewhat accomplished this before with a 2-usb hard drive. The main usb port for transferring I plugged into the infinity, and I plugged the port for power into a portable external battery. It was recognized as another SD card on my infinity. It worked flawlessly when transferring 800MB+ files.

tefal said:
Hi All
Finally been able to order a TF700 from Amazon in the UK, I'm off travelling around Europe at the end of next week and intend to take the 700 with me, my question is can I take my external 1TB drive with me and use it as storage (for films, music etc)
Thanks all in advance
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Yup. It works. Mine is WD 1TB, connected via USB of the dock.

I've tried plugging in a standard usb drive (8gb thumb drive) in the usb port before but I can't browse to it in the stock file browser,"external storage"just shows as empty. Do you use a special app for that?
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I use a Seagate 2.5" external. It transfers fine and is recognized but playing videos using either mxplayer or bsplayer is imperfect. There is a lot of stutter. My imperfect solution is to rotate out video files on my device.
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Diogenes5 said:
I use a Seagate 2.5" external. It transfers fine and is recognized but playing videos using either mxplayer or bsplayer is imperfect. There is a lot of stutter. My imperfect solution is to rotate out video files on my device.
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Not only is an external a great solution, and works perfectly with the dock. It also has a really nice transfer rate. I was getting over 20mb/ps transferring from my 128gb flash drive to the micro sd. I have yet to spring for a 128 sdxc for the dock, but it's on my list.

So far I tried:
- External usb 2.0 disks
- Wireless mouse
- Linksys usb to ethernet
- Usb sticks
The dock's usb port seems to accept anything: even ethernet that allows me to even use my Infinity in the basement of my house (only wired connections there)
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Thanks for all the input folks, shall experiment with the dock and hdd when they arrive next week! Quite excited, like a big kid lol

Wow good info in this thread. I never even thought to try my external hd with my infinity dock. Will save a ton of time during file transfers.

I was surprised no one else had asked the question really

tefal said:
I was surprised no one else had asked the question really
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I'm one of those people that traded in there TF201 for TF700... I know this was asked and answered early on in the TF201 threads, so I guess I just carried over from there and never bothered asking it again.

For those that care I also had success with a USB 3.0 External right away. It comes with a secondary USB to power cable but that has never actually needed to be used. The USB 3.0 is actually an internal from my laptop in a USB 3.0 case (Put a SSD in lappy ). So long story short USB 3.0 devices should also work but at 2.0 speeds.

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The USB 3.0 is actually an internal from my laptop in a USB 3.0 case (Put a SSD in lappy ).
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I did the same thing with my laptop, but shortly there after, I came to realize that I wasn't using it at all in complete favor of my TF201/700.... Now I've got a lappy with a pretty 120 ssd, and not being used. Coincidentally, I have more space than that in my tablet now...

right so that we have established that external USB hdd's work, what about external dvd drives and other external devices?

tefal said:
right so that we have established that external USB hdd's work, what about external dvd drives and other external devices?
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I can test it tomorrow, but I would imagine the storage part of it would work. The issues you would run into is not being able to write to it, not being able to play a regular dvd movie as it would have to be mp4 formatted, and other minor issues that require software support.
We already know gamepads, keyboards, mice, flash drives, sd card readers, and other such work..

About 1TB HDD compatibility::

Hello everyone..
Has anyone tried 1TB hdd (with external power) with our note? Is it compatible?
What is maximum capacity hdd we can connect with our note 10.1?
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syanz87 said:
Hello everyone..
Has anyone tried 1TB hdd (with external power) with our note? Is it compatible?
What is maximum capacity hdd we can connect with our note 10.1?
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I have the Toshiba 1TB external that connects with other tabs (no external power). The Note 10.1 "tries" but fails. Perhaps a power issue as this drive has connected with android tabs in the past.

I'vegot an old Buffalo DriveStation 1TB drive. It's an externally powered 3.5" disk with a USB 2 interface. Just tried it and it works really well. Films stream very smoothly and theres no delay in accessing files.
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Hello.
I have Samsung S2 1TB USB2 NTFS, works fine :good: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-S2-USB-Powered-Portable-Midnight/dp/B003UT2QTQ

Op I dont know if u realize u can't read an ntfs formatted drive out the box. Get rooted and dl ntfs mounting app. Or just search the forums

skeeterpro said:
I have the Toshiba 1TB external that connects with other tabs (no external power). The Note 10.1 "tries" but fails. Perhaps a power issue as this drive has connected with android tabs in the past.
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I possibly have the same drive. The only way I can use it is to use a usb 'Y' cable which has 2 usb plugs and 1 usb socket, you plug the hard drive into the socket, one plug goes to the tab and the other one goes to an external usb power supply i.e., laptop or usb mains power adapter. If you can't find one they're easy enough to make, just google it.
From what I understand, our Tabs don't supply enough power to run high power devices such as most usb hard drives.
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