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I New to this Android World (From apple ex-fanboy) ;-) // I want experiences or recommendations especially -better battery life- between LeeDroid Rom & AOSP RC1
Thank you!
I think it depends on if you Luke sense. If you do, leedroid is the answer. You'll likely get better battery from aosp since it doesn't have nearly the background processes. Try em both and see what you like.
I've gone from LeeDroid to CM7 now happily running AOSP RC1... I'm in vanilla Android heaven!
Your comparing apples to oranges. The two aosp roms are compiled from source, with absolutely 0 HTC bloat in them. The other is an HTC rom with sense. You can remove sense apps and Widgets, but sense framework is still there. Depends what you want. But if battery is your thing, I'm getting the best battery I've ever had on my aosp rom, and the phone is smoother than I ever thought this phone could be. I'm sure gtg 's is the same. If you want sense, try leedroid, if you want what Google made, before the manufacturers got their hands on the software, try an aosp rom. No matter what you pick, it'll be better than stock.
I'm on leedroid... Thinking of trying ACE not sure yet.. gonna give leedroid a week!
Try em all. The hard/riskier part is done. Flashing roms is safe/simple. Your not gonna.brick your phone flashing a rom, and it only takes a few minutes to be back up and running. Risky things to flash are radios (although if your careful the risk is pretty low, but a bad radio flash can leave you with a permanent brick) and bootloaders
I'm using LeeDroid's ROM currently and I love it...Battery life is great, still has the nice framework for appeal, GPS works within 35 seconds, etc...I tried the RC1 and it's incredibly fast and smooth, but it's nearly naked with features lol...So like di11 said, they both are better than stock for sure, it's just what appeals more to you function or form..Hope this helps
LeeDroid is the way to go, i've tried them all and his ROM's just work great without any hassle.
my expierince with leedroid had speakerphone issues and was buggy, but im still looking for a one for me.
Also, with aosp roms, I was unable to recieve mms messages as I had in Sense Roms. Otherwise I would stay with Gingerbeast.
Does anyone know of any ROMS that are stock Android (CM7) but with a few HTC Sense elements thrown in? I really like stock Android, but I want to have HTC messaging, FB for HTC Sense, etc. I like the social hub aspect of Sense. Thank you.
cm7 isn't stock android.
The general answer to your question is no though. You can theme your phone to look like htc sense, but I'm pretty sure running any sort of sense app on a non sense rom isn't kosher... has something to do with huge incompatibilities somewhere I think. I don't know exactly what - I have just seen similar questions pop up on the board.
Try running GTG's new AOSP rom... I was a sense guy, until Adam Holden and GTG came out with their newest offerings. I get rediculous battery life on the aosp rom. I guess there's just that much less going on than in sense roms.
What I mean, is the stock Android aesthetic with the social aspects of Sense. It doesn't need to be stock Android. Basically, CM7 with a few Sense elements thrown in.
No, most HTC apps need HTC framework. Anything that's not an HTC rom(cm7, gtgs aosp, my aosp, anythimg based on cm7) is not gonna have sense framework. My other no sense rom has all HTC bloat removed, along with SOME framework, but still uses HTC camera, contacts, phone.
I started this thread with hopes of learning and educating the talented Rom cookers and bakers XDA has to offer. There are alot of varying points of view, both in completely different camps as to which UI has more to offer/ meets a user's needs or desires. Vanilla, custom, Sense. I am trying to figure out WHAT users want in there roms.
For example:
I keep using Sense based Roms because I love the camera & enjoy the fact that it employs face detection. I also enjoy the fact that the SMS application automatically applies my picture from Facebook or twitter as my avatar when sending messages, to me that makes it feel cleaner.
I dislike the fact that sense keeps a rolling list of my most recent applications above the notifications bar, I also dislike how taxing on the system sense is.
Alas, this thread isn't only about what I like and I want... its about what we all would like to see.
P.S.
If we have a team of skinners/themers and bakers out there willing to undertake an on-demand ROM like this... 1. We would forever love you 2. If you haven't done so already, I will set up a PayPal account for donations in your honor because I'll love you like that.
Personally I like HTC Sense but there's something about AOSP that I can't help but have a huge attraction to so I'd have to go with that. I agree though about the status bar showing your recent apps and I did notice that Sense slows down my phone more and kinda kills battery
What does AOSP have to offer? AOSP vs Sense.
I'm familiar with a lot of terms, but what is "vanilla" ?
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Enraged21 said:
What does AOSP have to offer? AOSP vs Sense.
I'm familiar with a lot of terms, but what is "vanilla" ?
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From what I have gleaned, it's basically the most simple/basic/no frills form of the ROM. Then, the bakers out all nice goodies and stuff in it to make it what it is.
Demented71 said:
From what I have gleaned, it's basically the most simple/basic/no frills form of the ROM. Then, the bakers out all nice goodies and stuff in it to make it what it is.
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AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project and is like you said, stock android. It's what android is meant to look like but then companies add HTC Sense and Motorola Blur and other frames over it. If you check out the Ginger beast rom for the Inspire, which is what I run, then you'll see what it looks like and such
Canio Wolf said:
AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project and is like you said, stock android. It's what android is meant to look like but then companies add HTC Sense and Motorola Blur and other frames over it. If you check out the Ginger beast rom for the Inspire, which is what I run, then you'll see what it looks like and such
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So is Gingerbeast a very trim version of an AOSP ROM? I played with MIUI a bit, but then went to CoreDroid and am pretty much loving it. Though I do have that itch to flash again...lol
Sense roms are made from what either HTC leaks us or stock firmwares modified or whatever that particular dev wants to do to that build(theme, deodex, zipalign, add whatever tweaks). You can remove some sense apks, but sense framework is still there and there is still some hints of it throughout that just can't really be removed.
Unmodified aosp roms are pretty much what you would see on a nexus s. Absolutley no bloat, no sense at all, fast and nothing to hog resources. But aosp wasn't specifically built for this phone and its a lot harder to get everything working right (thank the cm team for not only getting everything working, but it works insanely well).
Gingerbeast uses some cm core parts, but removes some cm specific stuff, adds in aosp parts from both source trees and is then compiled. Same for the kernel- cm aosp kernel, with some extra speed/efficiency tweaks)
Some sense roms are almost 300mb, gingerbeast is around 85 I believe.
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Sense roms are made from what either HTC leaks us or stock firmwares modified or whatever that particular dev wants to do to that build(theme, deodex, zipalign, add whatever tweaks). You can remove some sense apks, but sense framework is still there and there is still some hints of it throughout that just can't really be removed.
Unmodified aosp roms are pretty much what you would see on a nexus s. Absolutley no bloat, no sense at all, fast and nothing to hog resources. But aosp wasn't specifically built for this phone and its a lot harder to get everything working right (thank the cm team for not only getting everything working, but it works insanely well).
Gingerbeast uses some cm core parts, but removes some cm specific stuff, adds in aosp parts from both source trees and is then compiled. Same for the kernel- cm aosp kernel, with some extra speed/efficiency tweaks)
Some sense roms are almost 300mb, gingerbeast is around 85 I believe.
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So what you are saying is, without htc sense frame work we can't have things like the sense camera and weather app with your kernel and an adamholden rom?
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I want what Android Revolution has to offer, sense with a no sense script. Best of both worlds, no sense but still have a good camera and all the htc apps, but no sense! Makes sense!
I have to say that I think I prefer some of the things in sense. I've been from leedroid to miui to gingerbeast. Miui. Was slow and taxing, while very pretty... not what I want... I prefer a phone that can fly through pages as fast as I can navigate them.
Gingerbeast is very, very quick which is awesome, but like said before the HTC camera and SMS, as well as clock Widgets and ringtones, are better with sense.
I think ill try out android revolution next
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It would be cool of someone made a kernel with calibrated color, I think the captivate had some roms with that. I've noticed the black levels on the inspire seem more dark grey then true black. Wishful thinking maybe?
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I love sense, It's better than the others (touchwiz etc)
I use GingerBeast, which I like because it is small and light and fast. I do miss the sense camera, though the miui camera is decent enough for my purposes.
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I don't mind sense at all. I'm Still running stock but I'm thinking hard about flashing RCMix kingdom Rom cause I want to check out sense 3.0
hahiss said:
I use GingerBeast, which I like because it is small and light and fast. I do miss the sense camera, though the miui camera is decent enough for my purposes.
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Seems like the sense camera is one of the things people without sense miss the most
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So I was just wondering what was the huge difference between the two. What are the advantages and the disadvantages, the pros and cons. Please support your reasoning cause I don't know the difference between the two at all (Other than the themes)
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-Also if you do support CyanogenMod, which rom do you prefer and why?
Thanks!
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I prefer cyanogen because it doesn't have all of the bloatware that the original rom would include. by doing this, it frees up much more space and also opens up so much more ram on the phone. I'm currently using hypersensation cm7 and I've had no issues so far. I also like the fact that cyanogen is pure android, unlike HTC's sense roms. it's really a matter of preference. some people love the features that sense roms include and some enjoy just having a pure android device(me included). I can add the same features, looks, etc that sense has, but without adding the actual htc sense which saves a ton of room on my phone. it isn't all cluttered with the added htc sense. That all being said, I am very impressed with how fast some of these sense roms actually are and I've tried a ton of them. Some I actually like, but since converting over to no sense roms such as cm7, I've kind of been hooked ever since. basically, it really comes down to user preference.
Don't know if this helped any lol but if it did, kindly hit the thanks button...thanks
you can always private msg me if you have more questions..
Your input was very helpful. But I have another question, how's the battery life with CM7? Would you say its better than sense roms?
that depends on which kernel you're using. I would say battery life is ok with moderate use, but nothing special. I can usually go a full day on a single charge with moderate usage. that being said, I'm seriously thinking of upgrading the battery. I've read about the evo3d batteries that you can use with the sensation.. I may go that route, or maybe check out an anker battery.. it's kind of a tough decision because there are so many pro's and con's on here.. some people love the anker batteries, and some hate them.. so I'm still undecided.
my current kernel is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17697845#post17697845
(Bricked-v1.2-final-ondmnd-1536-192.show-p1984)
What is the difference (that you noticed or has been reported), in terms of usability/battery, with bricked vs CM Bumblebee kernels on CM7?
I have just switch to CM7 today after trying out a couple of sense ROMs. The sense roms were very fast (not as fast as CM7 imo) but I really don't use sense and like the tweaks and customisation in CM7. If the battery can hold up I'll be using it from now on.
For me, the kernel that is within cm7 just seemed to drain my battery a little more then when I used the the bricked kernel. Of course everyone's experience is different. But when I was using the bumblebee kernel(after light/moderate use), it seemed like my battery was dying an hour to an hour and a half earlier then when I was using the bricked version. Maybe one is undervolted a little more then the other?? I'm not really sure. But this was just my own experience.. everyones is a bit different I'm sure
Oh ok, thanks. Are you using Hypersensation ROM? How is that compared to CM7 SelfKang Alphafied?
So, I decided to give Cyanogen Mod a try but for some reason Titanium Backup wont find my backed up apps. It's in the root folder of my SD card but it wont detect them.
Sense comes with many widgets, and allows the user to have consistent look n their home screen. The lockscreen is also different than AOSP. What I like the most about sense is that it sports a full featured camera app that is hard to beat. The one on CM7 is anemic in comparison. I also haven't found a keyboard yet that allows me to backup and sync a user dictionary.
People always complain that it's really bloated, but they're just crying because they don't wanna go through titanium backup to remove the extraneous apps.
What CM7 does extremely well is providing its fans a consistent experience of android across all platforms. Name of their game is fast and efficient. You're able to tweak a lot more settings than Sense. But for the speed and efficiency improvements, you're sacrificing functionality and in some cases, eye candy. I might switch over to CM7, once they fix their camera and video recording issues.
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|ChauMein| said:
So, I decided to give Cyanogen Mod a try but for some reason Titanium Backup wont find my backed up apps. It's in the root folder of my SD card but it wont detect them.
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Remove the USB cable connecting your phone to the computer, or just keep the phone on charging mode, instead of disk.
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nrvnqsrxk said:
Remove the USB cable connecting your phone to the computer, or just keep the phone on charging mode, instead of disk.
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The charger wasn't plugged in. I did a restore back to a Sense rom for now. Is it normal for CM7.1 to not detect Titanium Backup from a previous sense rom?
I've never had any issues with my backups with any version of cm7 using titanium backup.. so I'm clueless at the moment....
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The charger wasn't plugged in. I did a restore back to a Sense rom for now. Is it normal for CM7.1 to not detect Titanium Backup from a previous sense rom?
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Obviously not normal.
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Okay, the Titanium Backup issue is fixed, but now my home button isn't working. D:
|ChauMein| said:
Okay, the Titanium Backup issue is fixed, but now my home button isn't working. D:
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Reboot. It should fix it.
aNYthing24 said:
Reboot. It should fix it.
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Didn't work ): Any other suggestions?
back on the op, cm7 for speed and battery life, but not as good looks.
sense: less speed a lil, badder batt life, but way good sexy slick looks
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Didn't work ): Any other suggestions?
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Prior to installing CM7 you made sure to do a full wipe, right?
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I have used AOSP and Sense ROMs on the Sensation and EVO 4G.
AOSP/CM7: This is my preference because it allows for so much customization including power consumption among other things.
It does lack some of the nice apps like the sense camera, however I view that as a nicety for the phone since I'd rather use a good digital camera for pics like that.
AOSP based have always seemed faster due to the minimalistic nature of the ROM.
Sense: Very feature rich with same general user experience across platforms.
OOB experience is also very nice.
I've always found Sense to use more power than AOSP based ROMs.
That being said, it depends on the user and the user's skills/experience on which to choose to use.
Having the customization options available for a noob could result in poor experience and negative feedback.
Finally, a well thought out response between AOSP vs. Sense. Ultimately, what works best for you will be what you're looking for your phone to do. Mission drives the gear.
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The rom scene for the Desire S is pretty cluttered right now, with loads of different roms out there.
Can anyone tell me which roms offer Sense 3.5 but also minimalist in terms of apps in stalled?
I want as clost as possible to default android, but with sense 3.5 as I like the widgets and can't bare of the other launchers like launcher pro and and go launcher.
Thanks
Honestly best way is to get stuck in and make your own decision. We all have different preferences. Anything you find you do not need with a custom ROM, freeze/delete with TB. Or remove it from the .zip before flashing if it is safe to do so.
Personally I have tried only one Sense 3.5 ROM, RCMix. Runs very nicely with excellent battery life and no clutter in the apps department. But you may disagree.
RhymeS v1's sense is perfect but has some problems like BT and Hotspot.