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As the title states "Will this phone be as Supported as other Galaxy S Phones?" I have 5 days to make up my mind about keeping it or getting back my Vibrant. I have no compaints about this phone. It rocks as is. I just want to know if this phone will have as many Devs working on it as there are the Vibrant or does no one really care for Developing. There is still no ROMs or even a working CWR yet. Is this phone going to just get passed over? What would you do? Stay with this Phone or go back to the Vibrant? Thanks for your input
Team Whiskey has already said they are going to develop for it. They are just waiting for a working CWR then it is off to the races!
dcam1075 said:
Team Whiskey has already said they are going to develop for it. They are just waiting for a working CWR then it is off to the races!
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Can you tell me where that's posted please? This way I can see what they are saying. My gut is telling me to go back to my Vibrant because there are so many Great Dev's working on that phone and I feel they all won't be working on this one.
Also, I am surprised that only one person replyed to this topic. Thanks in advanced
I doubt it will be as heavily supported as the Vibrant because I doubt that there will be even half as many adopters. However I asked Team Whiskey directly on their Facebook page if they were going to support it and they said they already were developing for it and are just waiting for a working CWR to roll the ROMs out. I believe their frost ROM for the Vibrant is actually a port of the GS4G so they have already had some success with ROM. I also PM'd the developer of the Trigger ROM for the Vibrant and he said he is all set to port his ROM over, he is just waiting to get his hands on GS4G to do some testing. So I am sure there will be ROMs but they probably won't come as fast and furious as they did for the Vibrant. The good news is the 2 phones are so similar that I imagine it will be easy for developers to port existing Vibrant ROMs and modifications over to the GS4G. Hope that helps!
Thanks for the info. Im going back to t-mobile in the morning and getting my Vibrant back. The only thing I am giving up realy is the 4g cause I already have a ffc for the Vibrant. I am a die hard Bionix fan and it is killing me not knowing if they will even release it for this phone. I know Frost will, but its not the same. Its been two weeks and no word as to when CWR will hit. No one is even posting mods. I just think this phone is going to be past over. Sad cause this phone is great! but if I know my luck, as soon as I leave t-mobile with my Vibrant and get home, there will be all kind of roms and suport.
Getting mine in a couple of days.
Seem kind of weary. Is it because the G2x is new OR is it just not that popular?
Don't see much dev support on this device.
Anyone shed some light?
actually there are many top devs that have been starting to develop for this phone. Some are top Vibrant devs like morfic (kernels/ Team Whiskey i believe?), krylon (team whiskey as well/Bionix Roms), MT4G faux, cyanogen (CM7 Roms), and more devs are popping up. Google made this phone pretty easy to work with from what I understand.
these are just the big devs that i can think of off the top of my head.
Also we had one click root and Clockwork Recovery within 24 hours after G2x release. Source code was released within a few days after G2x release from LG as well instead of the normal 90 days.
now all we need is the Official Gingerbread from T-mobile to get us rocking even more
yeah g2x development got rocking pretty fast. very well orgainiazed in here as well.
Development doesn't come in full force overnight...
regP said:
Development doesn't come in full force overnight...
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this ^^
the biggest hump we need to get over is our first big patch from LG/tmobile which will give us gingerbread (2.3.4 hopefully) and a new baseband with much better driver support...
all of the 2.3 builds are hampered a bit right now because of kernel issues or wonky drivers for the battery, bluetooth, light sensor, keyboard/touch sensor (spacebar deadzone), govenors for the kernel, ect... drivers are not easy for devs to build and optimize, thats more of a manufacturer job
for complete stability right now the Eagles Blood rom is hands down the best in my opinion but again its only 2.2...
I would really expect the update fairly soon, within weeks I am hoping and after that id imagine things will start to explode... faux is already taking great strides in a pure AOSP rom which will be a great base for future rom cookers to build off of
Tbh, I think development for this phone is great. I mean we have morfic and faux making kernals. We have CM. We have Krylon with Bionix and we also have Team Shockwave with EB. Development for this phone can only grow much bigger.
I think you have to be one of us ex-Vibrant users to really appriciate G2x development in its current state.
The support is incredible for this phone. I really can't see how it could be any better or more prolific, it's only been out for a month.
What are you talking about dude? This phone has been out for a month and it already has some of the most popular names in development. You are out of your damn mind.
I'll take quality over quantity any day. The people who are currently developing for the G2x are top notch. I've been very pleased with the progress of things
regP said:
I think you have to be one of us ex-Vibrant users to really appriciate G2x development in its current state.
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+1 to that. Thoughts of my old Vibrant give me the shivers....
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t keyboard/touch sensor (spacebar deadzone),
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So spacebar deadzone is a known issue?? I just had mine refurbed for this haha.
Dolphinwigs said:
+1 to that. Thoughts of my old Vibrant give me the shivers....
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You think the vibrant was bad? Take a look at the at the epic's forum. They still only have like 4 stable roms.
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Yea I think this thread is misleading. For a 3 month old phone there is TONS of dev work going on.
They are just getting the AOSP roms ironed out, which means smaller devs will have a good base to customize roms their way. We already have several Kang Developers as well as Faux, EB, Bionix and CM7. This is excluding the handful of custom kernels.
For 3 weeks I think we're doing hella good. I'm happy
Wasn't aware it has only been out a month. Not bad indeed!
Off thread topic, but is everyone just living with the LCD light bleed?
I'm not sure if sending it in for refurbs will really fix the underlying issue.
Does it really just become a game of "hope for the best one"?
xomikronx said:
Wasn't aware it has only been out a month. Not bad indeed!
Off thread topic, but is everyone just living with the LCD light bleed?
I'm not sure if sending it in for refurbs will really fix the underlying issue.
Does it really just become a game of "hope for the best one"?
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did you get yours yet? i just got mine, 24 hours now, i have a little bit of bleed. kind of annoying at first, but its not nearly as bad as others so i'm letting it go. everything else about the phone is great. i have cm7 on it and its been really solid so far. each hour goes by i like the phone more.
Juat got mine about 7 hours ago. Running bionix 2. Miss the CM features....mine isn't too bad with the bleed...but just wondering what others felt about the issue...
jrwingate6 said:
What are you talking about dude? This phone has been out for a month and it already has some of the most popular names in development. You are out of your damn mind.
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this.
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Juat got mine about 7 hours ago. Running bionix 2. Miss the CM features....mine isn't too bad with the bleed...but just wondering what others felt about the issue...
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At this point I feel like those who couldnt live with it are gone and everyone whos still in this forum isnt bothered . I still only ever thing of the bleeding when I hope on XDA and someone brings it up.
I just got this phone 3 days ago, and its my first with Tmo service. In comparison to ATT phones, except Cappy, Im super impressed by the attention from major devs. I have been waiting for this phone to release for awhile. Was advertised as quad band prelease, then found out release day that its not, so actually had to open tmo acct.
This is the first phone in a year that has made me leave my Cappy at home.
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Hey guys,
I have a full upgrade coming on Tuesday (7-5) and have been doing a lot of research on what phone I want. I have it narrowed to the SK4g and waiting a little longer for the mt4g slide.
My burning question is does anyone know the status of porting CyanogenMod to the Sidekick?
If there were any progress on that, it would make it a no brainer since the combo of the physical keyboard, basic internal hardware stats, and the right price + CM7 would make it a near perfect for me phone.
I have asked on the CM forums, and googled it but cannot find an answer. I know bburke has mentioned it so I figured to ask here and see.
Thanks in Advance!
WolfePakT
Well to answer your question wolfepakt, Its a work in progress. Its been less than a month since we were gifted CWM(amazing work Krylon360!), and the "Smooth Maximus" rom serious (Major thanks to AyoTeddy!). With what little knowledge i know of about CM7, I believe there needs to be a gingerbread leak for our device or a device closely related (epic 4g i think is the closest). But what we really need is a couple more devs to work on it. Ayoteddy (smooth maximus), Dr.Honk(Bali Kernal's) and Krylon360 (CWM) can only do so much on their own. If you know of some devs that would help us port it, our phone could see the gingery goodness!
Did some more looking on CM wiki and found one small tidbit at the very bottom of this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S:_FAQ
There is no maintainer but the sk is not to far from the galaxy S line.
wolfepakt said:
Did some more looking on CM wiki and found one small tidbit at the very bottom of this page:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S:_FAQ
There is no maintainer but the sk is not to far from the galaxy S line.
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Its close as far as hardware is concerned, but I'd like to ask you to look at the clock work mod thread so you can see the real differences.
Will do. Have been reading a lot in the last week or two!
There are tons of useful pages, some of which should be stickies but aren't. If you need anything just ask brother.
p.s. If you look at the phones i have posted in my signature, My current setup blows them all away. Ayoteddy and Dr.Honk did a magnificent piece of work with the smooth maximus rom.
Good deal!
I don't change my phone every three months like some people, so I want something that I will be happy with for a long time.
I had my Dash for almost two years, have had the highlight for over a year.
Have has good luck with both Samsung and HTC!
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Good deal!
I don't change my phone every three months like some people, so I want something that I will be happy with for a long time.
I had my Dash for almost two years, have had the highlight for over a year.
Have has good luck with both Samsung and HTC!
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I am trying to work on getting a cm7 port, but not much progress so far. If you like having tons of ROM choices, id go with the mt4g slide, but nonetheless, the sk4g is a good phone.
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bburke88 said:
I am trying to work on getting a cm7 port, but not much progress so far. If you like having tons of ROM choices, id go with the mt4g slide, but nonetheless, the sk4g is a good phone.
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There are two things making me want to go SK:
1. The price is reasonable,
2, The keyboard is bigger (5 row, looks more 'bigger hand" friendly)
4g slide has the dual core processor, more ram, etc.
I really don't care about the camera!
Either one will get a 16 gig sd card, so that doesn't really matter to me.
(I wanted a g2, but tmo sent it to a premature grave!)
All that being said I will most likely go with the SK, but I am gonna wait till the slide comes out and call Tmo Loyalty and see what they can do for me!
i have a G2 and the SK4G, and at first, when we had only stock for the SK4G, i preferred my G2, as the development for the device is truly amazing. but now, with the Smooth Maximus ROM and Bali kernel, I've been using my Sidekick. CM7 or AOSP would be amazing, but to me, we have it good already! i think Samsung knocked it out of the park with the physical design, and yeah, the keyboard is awesome, best i have ever used on a smartphone. i think i could use this phone for a long time myself.
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i have a G2 and the SK4G, and at first, when we had only stock for the SK4G, i preferred my G2, as the development for the device is truly amazing. but now, with the Smooth Maximus ROM and Bali kernel, I've been using my Sidekick. CM7 or AOSP would be amazing, but to me, we have it good already! i think Samsung knocked it out of the park with the physical design, and yeah, the keyboard is awesome, best i have ever used on a smartphone. i think i could use this phone for a long time myself.
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Great info yogi!
Doing more research tells me that the diffs between froyo and gingerbread are nice but a lot of it is similar in the bali kernel on smX. I still am leaning to SK and getting more convinced each day. I wish I had the time to devote to learning the info to build kernels so I could help DEV and work on OC kernels etc. I have used Linux for years, but between working 40+ a week and a family that we Homeschool, time for stuff like that is on the low side!
I never got into having the top of the line tech as it outdated to quickly to justify the price! However as a geek by nature, I frequently drool over TOTL!
I have downloaded the kernel source from samsung and will dig into it tonight at work! (Love OT!!!) I hope that it is well commented!
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I have downloaded the kernel source from samsung and will dig into it tonight at work! (Love OT!!!) I hope that it is well commented!
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let me know how it goes with the kernel. I have been trying to build it for practice.... the Bali kernel seemed to build easily for me, but I am a bit stuck on the stock kernel for some reason.
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I'm slowly working on porting CM7/AOSP 2.3, just getting around to some more work on it, but currently have to completely rebuild, as GB requires a different init.rc haha. I've built both the bali kernel and the stock kernel, so if you have some questions yogi, I can possiblly help you out, just pm me or find me, you know where I hang out.
hey sduvick have you made any progress?
I'd drop a <Donate Monetarily> to this cause, as I have for WiFi-Tether, Bugless beast, and Cyanogen in the past...
The default double lock screen is a major hindrance for daily use with stock and the only viable alternative right now.
Just wondering if anyone heard about how soon the release of the cyanogenmod for droid charge is coming for the droid. I just read online that it is currently being worked on and is in the alpha stages. Anyone have a clue?
I've given up hope on it. I really like Humblecomb enough that it doesn't matter.
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I think that one level up in the forums is probably a better place for this, but I'm not very optimistic about the port happening either. I'm satisfied having the choice between Humble and GummyCharged, personally.
C-y-a-n-o-g-e-n-m-o-d
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It's being worked on. So far, it's only one person working on it, so we have to be patient. If you can't be patient, then take up coding and such and help out.
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C-y-a-n-o-g-e-n-m-o-d
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Fixed sorry I knew that was wrong lol!
it is being worked on, however the progress is considerably slow... it has gotten to the point of functionality just without radio which is by far the hardest part as the RIL pretty much has to be built/ported from scratch or hacked up a lot to work, 3G/CDMA shouldn't be a problem as much as the LTE
with that said, jt1134 (our cm7 guru!! lol) hasn't been active much lately, most likely because he's looking for a new job or is busy or could be taking time off... just be assured its being worked on though the going is slow
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^^^ if you wanna get the latest as it happens follow these 2 on twitter
anoninja118 said:
it is being worked on, however the progress is considerably slow... it has gotten to the point of functionality just without radio which is by far the hardest part as the RIL pretty much has to be built/ported from scratch or hacked up a lot to work, 3G/CDMA shouldn't be a problem as much as the LTE
with that said, jt1134 (our cm7 guru!! lol) hasn't been active much lately, most likely because he's looking for a new job or is busy or could be taking time off... just be assured its being worked on though the going is slow
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@_jt1134_
^^^ if you wanna get the latest as it happens follow these 2 on twitter
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JT just posted over at Rootz that since he is out of work, he can't afford to get a SIM for his development Charge, so there will be no progress until such a time that he can get work and money to continue development.
I seen over at Rootz they were tossing around the idea of taking donations to get JT a month or so of service.
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Theres an alpha version of CM9 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410400
i don't see many devs for our infuse.. will we ever have ICS ported?
The more people beg and gripe the more devs will feel less obligated to release ANYTHING. There are plenty of great ROM's out there, give some a try! Preoccupy yourself.
Yeah stop crying and live with what youve got. Dont like it? STFU and get a sgs2
well our dev is a bit slower but the same thing happened with cm7. nobody appeared to be working on it. someone gave a dev a phone to port it. the dev didn't hold up his end. then out of nowhere Linux bozo pops up with a near perfect port. I don't think you will know about a port till it is flashable and the devs that can do it seem to keep things to themselves till it is worthy of posting.
things move faster on the sgs2 cuz its an international phone and prolly the most powerful one on the market. they have a ton of devs with a ton of experience. it doesn't mean we are hopeless. just keep faith and be patient. it will likely happen but there are hurdles. if it doesn't happen then get another phone.
has NOTHING to do with the infuse should be closed
i figure that by the time im ready for a new phone the infuse will get ICS.
while u wait try some current ROMs. I have tried a few of them but keep going back to a oldie but goodie (Infused ROM)
You got one thing right...lol...its a oldie
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Dani897 said:
well our dev is a bit slower but the same thing happened with cm7. nobody appeared to be working on it. someone gave a dev a phone to port it. the dev didn't hold up his end. then out of nowhere Linux bozo pops up with a near perfect port. I don't think you will know about a port till it is flashable and the devs that can do it seem to keep things to themselves till it is worthy of posting.
things move faster on the sgs2 cuz its an international phone and prolly the most powerful one on the market. they have a ton of devs with a ton of experience. it doesn't mean we are hopeless. just keep faith and be patient. it will likely happen but there are hurdles. if it doesn't happen then get another phone.
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LinuxBozo didn't pop up out of nowhere - he had a repository for a VERY long time and anyone who was doing development was aware of it. It just went nowhere because he didn't have Gingerbread-compatible proprietary blobs.
The big breakthrough for CM7 wasn't LB coming on the scene - he was around for quite some time beforehand doing kernel development behind the scenes. The big breakthrough was the Rogers UXKG3 Gingerbread dump. That gave LB the blobs he needed to work with.