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With the new entries into the at&t android scene, will the captivate be left behind by the devs? A couple have already picked up new devices, is there cause for concern?
There will be others who step in, and given that you can run vibrant and i9000 roms there will be new stuff going on. The i9000 forum is really where the action is anyway. If hardcore and supercurio move on then I would say you have seen the end of what can be done with the sgs.
Porting vibrant roms, simple kernel/modem swap? Can it be done before and after flash?
Hope not.
@mccord
Yep, I usually boot the rom then flash the kernel and modem. Sometimes it wont work simply swapping them first.
It already has been abandoned. Jump ship while you still can.
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@mccord
Yep, I usually boot the rom then flash the kernel and modem. Sometimes it wont work simply swapping them first.
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Solid info, any recommendations? ;p
My point in the thread is this, were will development be in a month, what are our options. I9000 and vibrant ports are solid options. I don't think many understand how easy it is to do on their own
It will carry on no matter what. Browse around. Heck there is still stuff going on with devices that are 5 years old and older. So no it will not ever "end"
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With the new entries into the at&t android scene, will the captivate be left behind by the devs? A couple have already picked up new devices, is there cause for concern?
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The new entries that is rolling out now, IMO, doesn't have the "wow" factor for anyone to upgrade and renew for another 2 years or even 1, yes opinion. I just returned my Inspire cause of it.
The Atrix, we will see. Accessories, accessories, accessories...reach deep in the pocket for it. Not worth it, ....we are just talking about a phone.
Samsung Infuse...oh yea... Neveragain.
I predict 3rd quarter, then "man overboard"
Development for these phone are easy for these devs, as long as leaked firmwares keep on popping up, and they have been. We all should be safe for awhile.
Sorry for the rambling...morning java...strong.
But yea, what newter55 said
I don't know if this indicative of how many people actually OWN a captivate, let alone DEVING...but I often find that next to Android development section of the captivate the number of viewing is usually around 300. There's still lots of captivaters, and I don't think everyone is in a position/able to jump ship.
I don't see why people are so worried, I'm looking into getting a Captivate myself. I know it's no Inspire 4G etc etc. But it's still a relatively new device. I know when I started in the WM6 days, people were still making WM5 roms etc for old devices. You will see people still working on them.
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I don't see why people are so worried, I'm looking into getting a Captivate myself. I know it's no Inspire 4G etc etc. But it's still a relatively new device. I know when I started in the WM6 days, people were still making WM5 roms etc for old devices. You will see people still working on them.
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Not worried, there has been a general distaste towards samsung on this section. A couple major devs have already started work on other devices. They will be back fillef I am sure. Just curious to see what direction things go
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Not worried, there has been a general distaste towards samsung on this section. A couple major devs have already started work on other devices. They well be back fillef I am sure. Just curious to see what direction things go
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Oh of course. I have been away for a long while. The last device I owned was a HTC Kaiser. Been with Blackberry since then. The Rhodium in my sig is my mothers that I tweaked for her.
Why do devs not like the Captivate? I've been looking into getting one to be able to learn Android and be as helpful as I was back in my older device days.
gps, no official froyo, quality control issues,rfs file system
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gps, no official froyo, quality control issues,rfs file system
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Interesting. Funny that you mention Quality control, my brothers brand new Captivate's screen went out under a month of getting it. It's like the screen decided not to turn on one day.
I've wondered this myself. I feel like if development will continue after the next 6 months its going to be on cyanogen... but hey. I'm relatively new to android so take what i say with several grains of salt
If the atrix lives up to the hype ill be abandoning my captivate....unlocked bootloader and its over
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I feel that the amount of work the devs are putting into this phone are making it a great device. I switched to an LG Quantum recently (and love it) But thanks to the joys of owning a sim card, I switch to my captivate at least twice a week. Go to the LG Quantum forum, and you'll see why. There isn't much to do. Not much hacking, no OC's, no UC's, just questions like "What case looks prettiest on my phone?" =/
This even applies to the majority of Motorola android phones, especially MOTOBLUR devices. There just isn't that much to do with them. As for the Captivate, there will always be some random, somewhat useless feature we're all going to go gaga over. ("OMG I CAN TAKE PANORAMA SHOTS.... MUST SHARE WITH XDA...") It's just the spirit of the Captivate forum. We're all in the same poorly navigated, highly customizable boat.
*group hug* xP
Well the origianal droid is about as customizable as the galaxy s it has gingerbread already...and honestly up until recently most of the "custom" roms were just bloatware free versions of vibrant or i9000 versions of TW. Andromeda and serendipity and supernova all are themed giving a feeling of something new and fresh....if we could get some aosp builds then this phone would really be great and we would see some true custom roms.....the devs are what's keeping the galaxy s alive.
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*wonders to self how some people ever figure out how to get dressed in the morning*
So its going to be released pretty soon.. what are the odds of the Captivate getting some love?
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/19/in...axy-nexus-and-ice-cream-sandwich-android-4-0/
Unfortunately, I'm going to have to go with 'Nil.'
The chances are non existent. It just makes business sense for for these updates to take forever. I do understand there are some hardware issues with the updates but in the end the average consumer is going to purchase a new phone or use their upgrade in order to get the latest os. If they keep updating old phones to the newest stuff people would hold onto their phone longer. I mean, ths is the first phone ive ever owned that I could flash custom roms onto. Before this I was locked into the operating system and whatever user interface was on the phone when I purchased it. If I hadnt found this forum or custom roms I would be frustrated by the lack of gingerbread and probably would have used my upgrade by now.
No hope. Most of the features aside from the UI wont work anyways due to not having the hardware (NFC) or lack of CPU and RAM (Camera features).
Just get a nice theme
they have it up and running on fascinates, as of 5AM this morning
We didnt even get official GB and we want ICS.....lol so greedy we people are...
Hell yeah Well rogers got the official gb , but att, com'on, forget about it.
First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.
Be patient. It'll be ported eventually.
I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship
Well, i'd be surprised to see ICS for our captivate. Even if cyanogen mod is getting ICS, i probably won't jump because of the superior call quality and slightly (if not better) battery life on captivate ROMs.
I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.
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First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.
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Um I did? - and even the XDA board didn't give me the topic yet so meh.
And someone has this starting to run on the Fascinate?? The Captivate is THE phone that seems to get the most love besides the Vibrant for this range of devices.
And I don't care how we get it... as long as someone is able to wedge it into the phone.
You know, it's open source.
Any of you asking for it can take a crack at it
I am seriously inexperienced, but this might be a good start to a programming career..
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I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.
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Nope, not even in the ballpark. Google has no legal obligation to any phone. What you are thinking of is how Google made the main phone produces agree to try harder to keep the phones up to date (up to one and a half years past release aka 18months). But that did not extend to the carriers...
Else they have to stop using the "Android" name and Google's apps
leaked from my FUSED SGS I897 contaminating you via XDA app.
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I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship
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That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.
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That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.
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not mention i've seen them pretty active in the galaxy nexus forums... might be because they have different priorities right now? once they figure out the newest phone they'll be able to come back and help us?
If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Saving my money for a Galaxy Nexus
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If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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If he does have it running, it's the SDK release and it will be slow as molasses.
Theres an alpha version of CM9 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410400
i don't see many devs for our infuse.. will we ever have ICS ported?
The more people beg and gripe the more devs will feel less obligated to release ANYTHING. There are plenty of great ROM's out there, give some a try! Preoccupy yourself.
Yeah stop crying and live with what youve got. Dont like it? STFU and get a sgs2
well our dev is a bit slower but the same thing happened with cm7. nobody appeared to be working on it. someone gave a dev a phone to port it. the dev didn't hold up his end. then out of nowhere Linux bozo pops up with a near perfect port. I don't think you will know about a port till it is flashable and the devs that can do it seem to keep things to themselves till it is worthy of posting.
things move faster on the sgs2 cuz its an international phone and prolly the most powerful one on the market. they have a ton of devs with a ton of experience. it doesn't mean we are hopeless. just keep faith and be patient. it will likely happen but there are hurdles. if it doesn't happen then get another phone.
has NOTHING to do with the infuse should be closed
i figure that by the time im ready for a new phone the infuse will get ICS.
while u wait try some current ROMs. I have tried a few of them but keep going back to a oldie but goodie (Infused ROM)
You got one thing right...lol...its a oldie
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Dani897 said:
well our dev is a bit slower but the same thing happened with cm7. nobody appeared to be working on it. someone gave a dev a phone to port it. the dev didn't hold up his end. then out of nowhere Linux bozo pops up with a near perfect port. I don't think you will know about a port till it is flashable and the devs that can do it seem to keep things to themselves till it is worthy of posting.
things move faster on the sgs2 cuz its an international phone and prolly the most powerful one on the market. they have a ton of devs with a ton of experience. it doesn't mean we are hopeless. just keep faith and be patient. it will likely happen but there are hurdles. if it doesn't happen then get another phone.
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LinuxBozo didn't pop up out of nowhere - he had a repository for a VERY long time and anyone who was doing development was aware of it. It just went nowhere because he didn't have Gingerbread-compatible proprietary blobs.
The big breakthrough for CM7 wasn't LB coming on the scene - he was around for quite some time beforehand doing kernel development behind the scenes. The big breakthrough was the Rogers UXKG3 Gingerbread dump. That gave LB the blobs he needed to work with.
How is it I have a g1... a g mf'n 1 running jellly bean. And this damn sidekick is stuck on 2.1........ wtf? Samsung can lick the boo sack noodo fo sho
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Lmao, boo sack. Funniest asian guy ever. But, I digress. Yeah, it's because the source was a mess. The people who happened to be interested in the phone aren't mature mostly. Most of the userbase of the Sidekick 4G are teenagers/kids. (It's always how it's been since it was released, it was nothing but a fad.) Most teens tend to not know how to program at an early age, (though there are some who can). Personally, my Galaxy S II has Jelly Bean 4.1.1 and has been receiving upgrades since Gingerbread 2.3.6, including 4.0.1, 4.0.3, and as of today, 4.0.4. The reason this is the case is because this phone is generally bought more in stores. Companies are willing to spend more time and money if they are in-turn making money on a phone. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
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Lmao, boo sack. Funniest asian guy ever. But, I digress. Yeah, it's because the source was a mess. The people who happened to be interested in the phone aren't mature mostly. Most of the userbase of the Sidekick 4G are teenagers/kids. (It's always how it's been since it was released, it was nothing but a fad.) Most teens tend to not know how to program at an early age, (though there are some who can). Personally, my Galaxy S II has Jelly Bean 4.1.1 and has been receiving upgrades since Gingerbread 2.3.6, including 4.0.1, 4.0.3, and as of today, 4.0.4. The reason this is the case is because this phone is generally bought more in stores. Companies are willing to spend more time and money if they are in-turn making money on a phone. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
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It's the same story on the SGH-T959V side (Galaxy S 4G). The two phones seem to be marketed at parents with teenagers.
Our forums get flooded with demanding unknowledgeable (and they don't seek knowledge either) teenagers, and we have very few device developers.
Galaxy S 4G was lucky to get Gingerbread. Sadly, I was hoping SK4G would also at least get gingerbread, but it got stuck on froyo.
There is a glimmer of hope. If you search some of code in the Galaxy S 4G's source drop, you find mentions of sidekick in there.
Search this file for SIDEKICK. The difference between the Galaxy S 4G and Captivate Gingerbread source drop are very little (although they are very different devices and take very different paths in the code).
So the sk4g is still an aries device and imho, can at least get a gingerbread port.
Galaxy S 4G has been ported to CM9, AOKP, SlimICS, Gummy (when it existed, not so much now), and a few other GB and ICS based "from source" roms. So GB and ICS should still be possible on SK4G. And I know we plan on porting JB after we finalize the sgs4g to aries kernel port, and since SK4G and SGS4G hardware is similiar (plus or minus a few components) SK4G should be able to run JB.
It will all just take a little time.
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It's the same story on the SGH-T959V side (Galaxy S 4G). The two phones seem to be marketed at parents with teenagers.
Our forums get flooded with demanding unknowledgeable (and they don't seek knowledge either) teenagers, and we have very few device developers.
Galaxy S 4G was lucky to get Gingerbread. Sadly, I was hoping SK4G would also at least get gingerbread, but it got stuck on froyo.
There is a glimmer of hope. If you search some of code in the Galaxy S 4G's source drop, you find mentions of sidekick in there.
Search this file for SIDEKICK. The difference between the Galaxy S 4G and Captivate Gingerbread source drop are very little (although they are very different devices and take very different paths in the code).
So the sk4g is still an aries device and imho, can at least get a gingerbread port.
Galaxy S 4G has been ported to CM9, AOKP, SlimICS, Gummy (when it existed, not so much now), and a few other GB and ICS based "from source" roms. So GB and ICS should still be possible on SK4G. And I know we plan on porting JB after we finalize the sgs4g to aries kernel port, and since SK4G and SGS4G hardware is similiar (plus or minus a few components) SK4G should be able to run JB.
It will all just take a little time.
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Haha man, I like you. You're right on the ball and damn heck of a lot better experienced than me by eons. But yeah, Windixi
s source is lying around, do you have it yet? I can get it for you if you don't have it.
TheLastSidekick said:
Haha man, I like you. You're right on the ball and damn heck of a lot better experienced than me by eons. But yeah, Windixi
s source is lying around, do you have it yet? I can get it for you if you don't have it.
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He has some interesting ways of getting things to work.
There is more then one way to skin a cat.
Ahh, and yes.. 4.0.4 would be delicious on the sidekick 4G, is it possible? I or is the hardware difficult to deal with? I'm thinking of learning how 2 become a dev myself
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Im never buying another product with the name sidekick in it, it just gets abandoned. Like a prom dress, wear in once then lose it.
insanedrunk said:
Im never buying another product with the name sidekick in it, it just gets abandoned. Like a prom dress, wear in once then lose it.
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Hahaha, this happened to more then just this phone. The only reason the galaxy s 4g has anything is because me and a few other people stuck it out.
There are other phones that never got anything and were more then capable of running everything up to jellybean.
The funny thing is, I hear a lot of users get all butt-hurty because their phone doesn't have the latest greatest rom. I say: too bad.
This is xda-developers.com, not xda-pimp-my-phone.com. The developers choose which phone they want to dev on, and go for it. Sometimes they are good and sometimes they suck. If a phone doesn't have too many developers, it's kind of a sign.
It sounds like there are a few devs around here that still want to make things happen.
So I wouldn't write off the sk4g quite yet. But also, don't expect things to happen right away.
Patience.
bhundven said:
Hahaha, this happened to more then just this phone. The only reason the galaxy s 4g has anything is because me and a few other people stuck it out.
There are other phones that never got anything and were more then capable of running everything up to jellybean.
The funny thing is, I hear a lot of users get all butt-hurty because their phone doesn't have the latest greatest rom. I say: too bad.
This is xda-developers.com, not xda-pimp-my-phone.com. The developers choose which phone they want to dev on, and go for it. Sometimes they are good and sometimes they suck. If a phone doesn't have too many developers, it's kind of a sign.
It sounds like there are a few devs around here that still want to make things happen.
So I wouldn't write off the sk4g quite yet. But also, don't expect things to happen right away.
Patience.
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In a nutshell. Rightly so my good man.
bhundven said:
Hahaha, this happened to more then just this phone. The only reason the galaxy s 4g has anything is because me and a few other people stuck it out.
There are other phones that never got anything and were more then capable of running everything up to jellybean.
The funny thing is, I hear a lot of users get all butt-hurty because their phone doesn't have the latest greatest rom. I say: too bad.
This is xda-developers.com, not xda-pimp-my-phone.com. The developers choose which phone they want to dev on, and go for it. Sometimes they are good and sometimes they suck. If a phone doesn't have too many developers, it's kind of a sign.
It sounds like there are a few devs around here that still want to make things happen.
So I wouldn't write off the sk4g quite yet. But also, don't expect things to happen right away.
Patience.
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Im not the type to whine when i dont have jellybean on my sk, however i do get upset this phone still has alot of problem even after running half assed roms on my phone. No real dev here yet, most likely never will be one.
insanedrunk said:
Im not the type to whine when i dont have jellybean on my sk, however i do get upset this phone still has alot of problem even after running half assed roms on my phone. No real dev here yet, most likely never will be one.
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There was. They got chased off by the ungreatfuls.
sduvick, ayoteddy for example were two of the best devs for this phone. And if it weren't for them, we'd still probably running stock-ass-retarded phones.
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There was. They got chased off by the ungreatfuls.
sduvick, ayoteddy for example were two of the best devs for this phone. And if it weren't for them, we'd still probably running stock-ass-retarded phones.
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Aggreed 100% I've been here since pretty much the release of the sk4g and the original dev teams were on the ball but had very little to work with I bet you sduvick and ay0teddy got some patchwork gb to work or at least cm6 or cm7 running on the sk4g but kept it to themselves. I've watched this forum go downhill till the official discontinuation of the phone and I'm pretty sure if I managed to get gb or ics running on my sk4g is keep it to myself with all the kanging and immaturity on here. But that's just opinion. I personally don't think the sk4g could handle ics only due to the lack of ram. The hummingbird 1Ghz processor could handle it but lack of ram would make it unbearable especially for a stock OTA.
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Aggreed 100% I've been here since pretty much the release of the sk4g and the original dev teams were on the ball but had very little to work with I bet you sduvick and ay0teddy got some patchwork gb to work or at least cm6 or cm7 running on the sk4g but kept it to themselves. I've watched this forum go downhill till the official discontinuation of the phone and I'm pretty sure if I managed to get gb or ics running on my sk4g is keep it to myself with all the kanging and immaturity on here. But that's just opinion. I personally don't think the sk4g could handle ics only due to the lack of ram. The hummingbird 1Ghz processor could handle it but lack of ram would make it unbearable especially for a stock OTA.
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Nah, sgs4g has the same specs, and can handle ics just fine.
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As a matter of fact, our phone can handle Jelly Bean.
I think I should just get it over with, I'm gonna buy the Samsung galaxy s 3, forget physical keyboards exist, and throw this phone into a bucket of fresh cement.
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I think I should just get it over with, I'm gonna buy the Samsung galaxy s 3, forget physical keyboards exist, and throw this phone into a bucket of fresh cement.
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Well, if you do, don't loose your sk4g. I'm waiting for TheLastSidekick to mail his phone, then it's on like donkey kong.
Please see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31266818#post31266818
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Well, if you do, don't loose your sk4g. I'm waiting for TheLastSidekick to mail his phone, then it's on like donkey kong.
Please see here:
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ROFL! It's funny, I make a bad habit of saying this **** online.
I thinK I can have it send out on Monday btw, not today because of Tornado watch in my county....and they don't ship on Sundays. Bhundven should have the SK4G AT MAX within 2 weeks guys.
Hey guys,
I frequent the EVO forums since my current phone is the EVO 3D. My best friend has a Blaze 4G, which I rooted for him about a month ago. I know nothing of current Samsung ROMs and while I could search and read every thread in the Blaze section, I was hoping you guys could save me some time.
General requirements for any ROM to be considered:
1) Must have working camera/camcorder (He has a 7 year old daughter he just got custody of and Dads gonna want to take pictures.)
2) Must be "Stable". My friend is a great guy but not a computer/phone savvy as I am...I don't want his phone to **** the bed while I'm at work, I'd feel like an uber douche.
Please in your responses include any pro's/ con's and why YOU like it...Thanks a ton
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Hey guys,
I frequent the EVO forums since my current phone is the EVO 3D. My best friend has a Blaze 4G, which I rooted for him about a month ago. I know nothing of current Samsung ROMs and while I could search and read every thread in the Blaze section, I was hoping you guys could save me some time.
General requirements for any ROM to be considered:
1) Must have working camera/camcorder (He has a 7 year old daughter he just got custody of and Dads gonna want to take pictures.)
2) Must be "Stable". My friend is a great guy but not a computer/phone savvy as I am...I don't want his phone to **** the bed while I'm at work, I'd feel like an uber douche.
Please in your responses include any pro's/ con's and why YOU like it...Thanks a ton
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I understand completely what you are saying about a rom for your friends Blaze. I would recommend Dark KNight Build 8 and Tweaked ROM. Both are stable and run well. I have been using Dark Knight since the day it hit. No force closes, no random reboots, everything is working fine. Tweaked is also very stable and everything works. Also I would recommend flashing the scorched kernel as well.
Hope this helps
I agree, tweaked and dknight are probably your best options, although I think there is JMT, but I have never tried that.
Let me ask you though. Is there a reason your friend does not want the stock rom? If he's not to tech savvy as you say, if it were my friend I would let him stick with stock, all the roms have there small issues. And although some may not bother me, it may be something your friend would rather not deal with. Having said that, after setting up dknight with the torched kernel and running for quite some time now, I have not had any problems.
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I understand completely what you are saying about a rom for your friends Blaze. I would recommend Dark KNight Build 8 and Tweaked ROM. Both are stable and run well. I have been using Dark Knight since the day it hit. No force closes, no random reboots, everything is working fine. Tweaked is also very stable and everything works. Also I would recommend flashing the scorched kernel as well.
Hope this helps
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Thanks I will flash this tomorrow, after reading through both of those threads
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I agree, tweaked and dknight are probably your best options, although I think there is JMT, but I have never tried that.
Let me ask you though. Is there a reason your friend does not want the stock rom? If he's not to tech savvy as you say, if it were my friend I would let him stick with stock, all the roms have there small issues. And although some may not bother me, it may be something your friend would rather not deal with. Having said that, after setting up dknight with the torched kernel and running for quite some time now, I have not had any problems.
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He wants something different. From what I've read about the Blaze 4G and its users y'all have the same issue EVO 3D users had with regards to ICS update (We were told Q1 2012...didn't get an official OTA until 7/31). We will hang out, drink some cold beers and he will play with my phone and say "Damn, Chris...I wish my phone would do that" or "Hey Chris...you think you can make my phone do *insert cm9/10 feature here*" So a few weeks ago I went ahead and rooted his phone, he loves that HE is in control of his device...even if he has no idea what it can do. I set up Titanium for him and did a NANDROID backup so that if something went wrong he has a known good flash point. He knows that when in doubt, don't mess with it or call me and we will go through it together. So in fairness to him, he is savvy enough to know not to really mess with it until he more knowledgeable...
Besides all that the man couldn't type until I got him addicted to a MySpace app, I am hoping that once he sees what his device can do with some mods he will take interest the same way and learns to do this for himself...just gotta get him that first hit ya know