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Coming from the Iconia Tab A500 I do have some mixed feelings about the Iconia A700. The display is great, and the heat doesnt concern me to much, but the sometimes unresponiveness bothers me lots. Tried to bring up the recently used apps, it stutters, going back to the home page, it stutters. And I disabled the virusscanner and the Acer Ring and am using the Apex launcher.....
But this isnt my biggest problem with the A700, as I will be using it mostly for reading and watching movies, which it handles well. My biggest disappointment is not being able to use USB storage when charging the A700. Is someone in the know of a solution for that? Arent there USB-thingies which fit in the A700, and have 2 USB connectors, one for the charger, one for a USB-stick/USB-HD or whatever?
Would it be possible to create a thingy like that, or do they exist already, and if the answer is yes, will it make it possible to charge and use or a USB-stick, or a USB-HD at the same time?
Please, your ideas/thoughts/solutions for this.
Fully charged it can play movies for about 10 hours. So why recharging it while watching? Just do it before or afterwards.
I know I can do that, but that wasnt what I asked
So please, are there possibilities to do what I asked in my first post?
I just wonder why you try to construct problems, that don't really exist.
But looking at the special connector acer developed, I think there will be no accessory that will fullfil your needs.
Who says it is not a problem? My experience with batteries is, that they work great for a few months, after that their charge cycle gets dramatically worse. And I just want to be able to use a USB-stick while charging at the same time!
And I wonder why ACER made this decision, while it worked perfectly on the A500, so ACER had the knowlege to keep it like in the A500, or would it add t much to the price??? I wonder......
Anyway, on the A500 whenever I used it i had an USB-stick plugged in, when charging or not... Which is impossible now.... So, I understand it's not a problem for you, but it is a problem for me... Otherwise i just as well could have chosen a new IPad..... I want connections, many!
I can understand you to a certain point. I myself asked me why Acer did not chose a more standarized plug-in (like the round one nearly every notebook and many other small devices with external powersupply uses). But anyway I knew the downside before I orded it and can live with it.
Why don't you change from sticks to micro-sdcards? They are also cheap, smaller, hide in the tablet and you free up the micro-usb for the charger (and nothing is dangling around on the bottom). And there exists readers for micro-sdcards that you can use as an usb-stick on your normal computer or other devices.
Think about it instead of infinitly waiting for an other solution.
I understand what you say, and ofcourse it is not a showstopper for me. But it is annoying, I choose - my mistake - blind for the A700 because I was satisfied with the A500, and couldnt imagine ACER would make such a stupid decision to use the micro-USB port for the charger as well. If I had done my homework, and as of now I will, I would have bought the ASUS A700 with dock, speedier Tegra 3 and thanks to the dock better expansion-possibilities.
The Asus dock for the TF700 is not well designed. Don't laugh but it's too light . One user in the TF700 put the tab on his lap in his dock in opened position. Because of the unbalanced weights of those both parts it fell backwards of his lab on the ground. Now he has to use his insurance (luckily for him he has one).
So if you want to watch videos with this combination you either have to hold it or put something behind to prevent it falling back. Acer is not perfect neither it is Asus.
An alternative to access external memory while charging is to us MicroSD cards instead. The A700 can handle up to 32GB (maybe more), and you can just buy a tiny mem card reader to interface with a regular PC USB port.
I have had my Infinity TF700 for few months and love it. It is perfect size, it is light and durable. I just got oh your the docking station for it today. Why did I buy this dock ? I see no real practical use out of it except make it heavier and look more like a cheap notebook PC. I do like the extra SD slot, and the usb port is nice, but I allready have the ASUS adapter to USB for the tab. Maybe I just need to get use to it ?? Are there any more good practical reasons for the dock that I am overlooking. ??
And one question: Since there are now 2 batteries (tablet battery and dock battery) if 1 of the batteries dies (goes to 0%) will it still run if the other battery has like 50% ?
Cheers !
Thibor
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I have had my Infinity TF700 for few months and love it. It is perfect size, it is light and durable. I just got oh your the docking station for it today. Why did I buy this dock ? I see no real practical use out of it except make it heavier and look more like a cheap notebook PC. I do like the extra SD slot, and the usb port is nice, but I allready have the ASUS adapter to USB for the tab. Maybe I just need to get use to it ?? Are there any more good practical reasons for the dock that I am overlooking. ??
And one question: Since there are now 2 batteries (tablet battery and dock battery) if 1 of the batteries dies (goes to 0%) will it still run if the other battery has like 50% ?
Cheers !
Thibor
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Once the tablet battery hits 70-80%, it varies per Rom it seems, It will stop pulling from the tablet and run the dock to 0 first, then continue to drain the battery in the tablet. The dock is good for a laptop replacement, it makes it a ton easier and quicker to type things rather than having to tap or swipe them, like typing up this on on xda but I am on desktop ATM. And yes the tablet should still run when the dock hits 0%.
Tylor
I suppose an appropriate answer to your question may be a question: why did you buy the dock?
I personally bought it so I could work on my papers or work docks away from the office or without my big lap top. I'd hate to write a paper on a touch screen.
Well, can't tell why YOU bought it But I did it primarily for the ease of typing. I'm using my Infinity for work, and with the keydock it's just perfect to capture meeting minutes, create mind maps and obviously to do the mail and calendar stuff. As a big GTD (getting things done) fanatic, I simply love it that whenever I have this great idea of something I should consider or act on, I just have to open the lid and type away.
Also the additional power is great, as I can't stress my Infinity hard enough to drain the complete batteries during one business day. Typically I charge over night, and -depending on how the day goes- there is more than enough power left to do browsing and reading at home.
My Infinity is relatively new, but soon I will have my first business trip where I want to try to leave without my notebook and just take the Infinity with me.
I find the dock useful for obvious tasks such as typing blocks of text. But there is definite room for improvement in its successor. I find that typing with the touchpad on can be quite tricky without accidentally moving the cursor mid-sentence. I have to exaggerate the arch of my hands over the touchpad area to avoid this issue. I haven't experienced this same problem on a similar sized netbook. I would like to see a keyboard with an even larger battery to make the keyboard heavy enough to make its center of gravity secure enough that the risk of tipping forward becomes neglible. Also, I am not certain why, but scrolling down a page with the arrow keys is not smooth like it is on a PC. Instead, it just moves the cursor from one box to another. Sometimes I would prefer to scroll the page with the arrow keys rather than with the two finger swipe gesture.
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Why did I buy this dock ?
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To type words, of course. As the non-dismissable notification permanently reminds you.
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I do like the extra SD slot, and the usb port is nice, but I allready have the ASUS adapter to USB for the tab.
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It is amazing how much more usable this thing becomes for web browsing if you connect a mouse to the USB port.
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To type words, of course. As the non-dismissable notification permanently reminds you.
It is amazing how much more usable this thing becomes for web browsing if you connect a mouse to the USB port.
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Want to hear something funny. I took your advice and pluged in my usb dongle for the mouse and yes it is a nice addon. I also see my wireless keyboard works also, so I am typing on my PC keyboard and using my PC mouse through the Tablet Keyboard/Dock ... : ) Could have probably cut out the middle man (the dock) and just plugged my usb dongle into the tab.
For me, the main thing with the dock is that extra battery allowed me to watch movies and browse the internet longer, also a tablet holder so I can put it next to my labtop and watch movies while working on my laptop.
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For me, the main thing with the dock is that extra battery allowed me to watch movies and browse the internet longer, also a tablet holder so I can put it next to my labtop and watch movies while working on my laptop.
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Buho I thought your tab was skinned?
I wanted the dock but was worried because I put the Skinomi on the tablet.
Probably wouldn't use the dock a lot unless traveling for the extra not plugged in time.
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Buho I thought your tab was skinned?
I wanted the dock but was worried because I put the Skinomi on the tablet.
Probably wouldn't use the dock a lot unless traveling for the extra not plugged in time.
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Wow you still remembered!, yes it skinned with Skinomi and it works fine with the dock, I even have the screen cover installed.
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Wow you still remembered!, yes it skinned with Skinomi and it works fine with the dock, I even have the screen cover installed.
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Groovy man...
Looks like I can do the dock now... it's only money
Have the same skin as you...
One thing I've noticed (at least on a stock rom). Is that if your dock is 100% charged and your tablet is at 0% you can charge the tablet off the dock. I've done that many times, quite nice
Besides the obvious upsides of easier typing, longer battery life, and more connectivity I bought the dock because along with a bluetooth mouse it turns the tf700 into a killer remote desktop machine. I am a web developer so instead of maintanining two development environments one on my fast desktop and one on a laptop I just use the tf700 with dock and bluetooth mouse + splashtop to work remotely on my desktop. It works absolutely great as a laptop replacement in this case if you have sharp enough eyes to work on a 1920x1080 windows desktop on a 10" screen.
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Wow you still remembered!, yes it skinned with Skinomi and it works fine with the dock, I even have the screen cover installed.
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That looks baller! I am gonna look into those Skinomis. I haven't used them on any of my devices yet, but I really dont want any gnarly looking scratches on the back of this thing.
Hey everybody,
I bought an Advent Tegra Note a couple of days ago. I always connect my devices to a TV at some point but there wasn't too much infomartion out there about the Tegra Note before I got my hands on it so I just wanted to put some info out there for people who might be interested.
The Note has both micro USB and Micro HDMI ports so I bought a micro HDMI to HDMI cable to test out a few things with it connected to a TV. I've used MHL a lot in the past so I'm not sure whether or not some of what follows is specific to the Tegra Note or applies to any tablet with both HDMI and USB ports.
HDMI to TV:
When you plug the HDMI cable into the Note it automatically kicks the display into landscape so you don't need to worry about the orreientation of the tablet itself.
Sound output seems to be at line-out level. It sounds great if you happen to have your TV plugged into a HiFi, but it does mean you can't alter the volume on the Note itself while it's plugged in.
In my experience, when you plug a phone into a TV via an MHL adapter it seems to really load the hardware which has a negative impact on performance. I don't know if it's because the Tegra 4 inside the Note is so powerful or if it's a feature of having a separate HDMI output, but there's no noticeable slow down at all. By way of example, when I ran Epic Citadel with ultra high settings in benchmark mode, it still achieved 59 fps. Web browsing was flawless too with very smooth performance.
I should probably point out that I was testing this on a 720p TV, not full HD.
USB On-the-Go
With a small OTG adapter plugged into the micro USB port I tried plugging in a wireless keyboard and mouse and it works perfectly (bear in mind if you have a UK QWERTY keyboard some symbols are in the 'wrong' place which is bit stupid for a device being sold in the UK). Next up I tried a bus powered 80GB hard drive and this also worked fine. Finally I tried a mains powered USB hub with the keyboard and hard drive plugged into it and that also works properly too. The tablet appeared to be drawing charge from the USB hub.
Simultaneous HDMI and USB OTG
At first this didn't work at all, but I found if I plugged the USB OTG adapter into the tablet first, then the HDMI cable, everything worked fine. In this setup it really is like a little media pc - it performs very well indeed.
I also tried using a small bluetooth keyboard with trackball mouse with it and that works too. I haven't tried a controller yet. I've read elsewhere that Six Axis Controller won't work with it which is a real shame, but there you go.
Apart from the rather creamy/yellow colour tint to the screen on the Tegra Note, it really is an awesome little device. 35,000 points in Antutu for $200? Awesome!
If you're in the UK and you're frustrated by the lack of UK QWERTY keyboard layout ( no £ symbol etc) you can use the Median External keyboard app from the Play store without root. This will add a UK layout under the hardware keyboard settings area under the 'Language and Input' menu. Hint, you have to connect the keyboard to get the hardware keyboard menu to appear in the input menu.
UPDATE: After the official OTA update to 4.3 I noticed a few things:
It is no longer necessary for users to download the Medion External keyboard app to get access to a UK QWERTY hardware layout. Under the input settings menu there is now an option to select a UK Android PC keyboard layout. On both my bluetooth and wireless desktop keyboards, the internet explorer shortcut key works as the Home button. Regrettably the auto correct options for hadware keyboards still don't work.
Unfortunately bluetooth is even worse than under the original or updated 4.2.2 ROM. When steaming via A2DP there are regular dropouts and reconnecting paired devices such a Moga Pro gamepad repeatedly fails at times. A factory reset didn't help.
When trying to disconnect an external HDD in the Settings/Storage menu, not only does the USB drive get unmounted, the MicroSD card stops working. The capacity and free space and of the MicroSD card will read as zero after the external drive has been disconnected. Restarting the Note (or remounting the SD card) will fix the problem, though for me the Gallery and Google Music apps became corrupted and I had to clear the data in Media Storage, Gallery and Music apps and reboot to get things working again. This bug was not present before.
I've also been playing with an Justop EZCast dongle that I bought from a reseller on Amazon. Results are very mixed. In EZCast mode pictures are streamed to the dongle very well. Videos are really hit and miss. Some stream flawlessly while others stutter to the point of being unwatchable. In EZMirror mode where the whole of the tablet's screen is mirrored on the TV results also vary. Music streaming sounds good but there are often dropouts and 'pops' and 'sqeaks' every so often that are really annoying. Also, altering the volume on the tablet does not change the volume on the dongle (whereas it does if you stream from a Galaxy Tab 3 8.0). Streaming films is also problematic in that there are periodic interruptions that are really annoying. Finally, if you connect to a wireless access point while in EZMirror mode you can mirror your browser etc to the TV which opens up a range of possibilities. You can even mirror writing on the screen to a TV so the Note would make an interesting presentation device in various scenarios. Gaming is not recommended as there is latency of about a quarter of a second. In short, when the dongle works it's great, but for now it is flawed and I wouldn't recommend one. I'm not sure whether future firmware updates will improve the dongle, but I suspect its internal hardware isn't powerful enough, especially for HD content.
I've not noticed a yellow tinge to mine, im pretty impressed especially at currys current 130 quite price!
Was going to get a micro hdmi adapter at some point, I'd like the slide cover, but that seems non existent in the uk
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I've not noticed a yellow tinge to mine, im pretty impressed especially at currys current 130 quite price!
Was going to get acreamy and yellow hdmi adapter at some point, I'd like the slide cover, but that seems non existent in thintermittent fault. from my C6603 using Tapatalk
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I think maybe it's because I'm used to to Super LCD screens. If you put one beside the Note and look at the gmail and Play icons they look a little creamy and yellow. Next to a 2013 Nexus 7 it looks awful, but now Currys have dropped the price to £99, who cares?
You need an Micro HDMI plug not a Mini HDMI plug as I found out last week. I bought mine from an Amazon reseller for about £2. Asda sell them in store for £6-9 dependent upon brand from memory.
Make sure your headphone jack works properly, mine had an intermittent fault.
If you bought your Note in the last seven days you may be able to get Currys to refund the difference, especially if you ordered online.
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If you bought your Note in the last seven days you may be able to get Currys to refund the difference, especially if you ordered online.
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aye, I've heard, but not really sure its worth the effort of dealing with the robots at CS, as I did a click&collect
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aye, I've heard, but not really sure its worth the effort of dealing with the robots at CS, as I did a click&collect
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I felt the same way but I found a non 0844 contact number and gave it a shot. Allegedly the difference has been refunded onto my card, though I haven't checked yet. The number is 01594 332592 and it answers as Currys Know How. I should add that I paid online and had the Note delivered to store rather than Click and Collect (or whatever it is where you reserve then pay in store).
I have picked a UK Tegra Note up for 99 quid. Really is very quick and have found that enabling 4xMSAA in developer options doesn't degrade performance in gaming.
I picked up a 30 quid miracast box from Curry's. Miracast works okay, image quality is good, but sound can fall out of sync. However with only one WiFi channel you cannot use streaming services. Although you could always set up another android device as a Bluetooth tether connected to WiFi.
Anyone got an Apps to SD solution?
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I have picked a UK Tegra Note up for 99 quid. Really is very quick and have found that enabling 4xMSAA in developer options doesn't degrade performance in gaming.
I picked up a 30 quid miracast box from Curry's. Miracast works okay, image quality is good, but sound can fall out of sync. However with only one WiFi channel you cannot use streaming services. Although you could always set up another android device as a Bluetooth tether connected to WiFi.
Anyone got an Apps to SD solution?
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Doh! I didn't realise Currys sold them - I just ordered one online from Amazon. Good point about the lack streaming services.
I only tried 4xMSAA in Modern Combat 3 and I couldn't see much difference in quality. Perhaps I'll try again. I'd love to be able to get rid of the colour banding in certain scenarios (colour crush) as it's very unattractive. Into the Dead is a good example.
Hi all
I recently bought samsung galaxy smart dock from aliexpress it was available for $ 35 dollars at the time of purchase.Basically It was samsung smart dock for note 2.On description it was mentioned that it would work with s4 and note 3.I tried using dock on galaxy s4 I9505 but none of the usb ports are working, tried many usb,mouse,keyboard none of them work.I have been experimenting with the dock but only hdmi is working.The phone recognises the dock and when connected it switches to dock mode but doesn't responds to any usb device. Have tried changing data cables and chargers and still not working.
Am I missing any stepstep in using dock,Is smart dock faulty or is this fake smart dock?
I have attached the picture of the dock.
I'm having problems too.
The HDMI on mine works but if I plug anything in the USB ports then the HDMI will flash on and off. If I use mine with mouse and keyboard plugged in but use the screen on the phone (nothing plugged in to HDMI) they work fine. Not sure what to do. It is as if there is not enough power to run all of it.
I have a smart dock and ran into the same trouble. I found that if i plugged in the USB devices before I docked the phone the usb would work great. I have tried a USB keyboard with additional USB ports, a USB mouse, and a wireless USB keyboard/touchpad combo. All have worked fine. I hope this helps.
Hello. I have those... my s4 no charging. Everytin is ok. But not chargin very well
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The HDMI on mine works but if I plug anything in the USB ports then the HDMI will flash on and off. If I use mine with mouse and keyboard plugged in but use the screen on the phone (nothing plugged in to HDMI) they work fine. Not sure what to do. It is as if there is not enough power to run all of it.
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Use geninue samsung charger of 2000 ma. Either the one that was supplied by the phone or the one that came with the smart dock.Try changing data cables.Samsung data cables are little thicker than ordinary cables.
The problem with my smart dock was that it had one broken pin of front connector,that pin was bend when I inspected closely . So I bought another one and all usb,hdmi and charging function is working at same time.I tested using usb 4 gb,keyboard and mouse. Then I plugged speakers and connected to tv .All function were working.:
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I have a smart dock and ran into the same trouble. I found that if i plugged in the USB devices before I docked the phone the usb would work great. I have tried a USB keyboard with additional USB ports, a USB mouse, and a wireless USB keyboard/touchpad combo. All have worked fine. I hope this helps.
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The problem with my smart dock was that it had one broken pin of front connector,that pin was bend when I inspected closely . So I bought another smart dock and all usb,hdmi and charging function is working at same time.The dock works no matter in which order you use it.I found on the new one that you can plug keyboard, mouse or any usb product before of after putting phone,all works flawlessly.
I had a Smart Dock a while ago and had to return it because after some minor issues with the device not charging, hdmi not working... that usually only needed reconnecting it stopped working, and that happened after having used it few times, I have the feeling they have low build quality. I suggest you try to return it and get other solution.
I got refund from the seller on aliexpress.I came to know that smart dock was itself faulty and it was a copy of original galaxy smart dock.
The connector pin that was bended inwards and was not broken I fixed it later by adjusting the pin with needle and came to know it was not only the issue.I came to kow that if any pin is broken inside connector,Phone will never recognize the dock.In my case phone was recognizing the dock just the dock itself was not responding to any usb device.
The smart dock still then didn't worked although my phone goes to dock mode when connected.Only hdmi and charging works.I returned the product. and bought another one from ebay which is working flawlessly now
I have this dock, I actually bought it from Samsung.com and for some odd reason ended up paying a total of $175usd for it ._.
(original price was $100, shipping ended up as another $30, and then it was wrongfully seized by costumes which nothing short of demanded $45usd or else they confiscate it, I could appeal but that would take ~six months and ... I will face storage charges meanwhile...... which is complete BS.)
As for its functionality:
This thing, on my i9505 works like charm, no need to do any sort of voodoo like putting the USB devices before plugging the device, I simply plug anything I want in any order I want, external 2TB HD? no problems, Logitech G500 mouse? yep, a Filco USB keyboard? aha, 48" SmartTV ? yep.
Everything works, the device "kicks in" some kind of "docking station mode" and everything works from there.
However: this "docking station mode" cannot be avoided or escaped and only apps that show up in it work (stock browser\gallery\mp3\calendar\alarm clock) .. and it works with a small delay, like as if the mouse sits behind a time delay of ~200ms, you know, just slightly faster than 1\4 of a second, same goes for the keyboard, video however plays at the same time was on the phone but UI animations are slightly slowed (both on phone and external display)
This delay is making the overall expriance to be very bad, I can only imagine that the note 2\s3 must feel even slower.
I also have the other simpler adapter that only goes to the power adapter\HDMI (Samsung's as well, from another order, originally bought it for my old n7000\note 1), with that thing the UI is just as slow, everything works essentially the same... video plays wihout issues ETC
What I found out is that with the dock station you cant use any micro-usb extension cable (so that .. the S4 could be used with an extended battery case [or just any non generic thick case]) but with the HDMI adapter it does work (also the female USB adapter, the one that allows you to plug a single device such as thumb-drive\mouse\keyboard - does work with extended micro usb cable)
And last observation:
When using the Sony Expria Z3 Compact (comes with Snapdragon 801) with the Samsung HDMI adapter... it works PERFECTLY, super fast, no delays, UI smooth, and all apps (Everything, really) is accessible... even Blizzard's new Android Hearthstone game... everything, meanwhile the S4 is sluggish as hell and super unfun to use :\
Oh and no phone other than Samsung's works on the docking station, not even old Samsung note 1 (tried nexus 5, lg g2, lg g3, galaxy s1, expria z3 compact, galaxy s2 - only the S4 worked with the dock)
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However: this "docking station mode" cannot be avoided or escaped and only apps that show up in it work (stock browser\gallery\mp3\calendar\alarm clock) .. and it works with a small delay, like as if the mouse sits behind a time delay of ~200ms, you know, just slightly faster than 1\4 of a second, same goes for the keyboard, video however plays at the same time was on the phone but UI animations are slightly slowed (both on phone and external display)
This delay is making the overall expriance to be very bad, I can only imagine that the note 2\s3 must feel even slower.
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??? Settings>My Device>Accessories to turn off the 'docking mode'
Animations can be a bit sluggish because it's running at 30hz not 60hz like the standalone MHL 2.0 HDMI cable does. Samsung never released an updated version of this dock so I can only assume it wasn't a big hit. (And probably this is one of the reasons! Lack of a landscape support in the touchwiz launcher was a bit of a thumbs down aswell)
I had some problems with HDMI output after a while and initially thought the dock at fault but replacing the usb port in my S4 solved all problems. After about a year of use, dust and grime and crap tends to mess them up. Had the same situation with the S2. Gone past the 2 year point now with my S4, so probably due to replace the port again.
Having a mouse and keyboard plugged in, automatically turns off the device screen, but the touch stills work if you need to do a 'pinch' gesture or similar.
Any full sized S or Note phone after the S3/Note 2 should be compatible with this dock. I had it work for S3 and 4 and Note 2. Not had any others to try them out though. The Note 1 and S2 are only MHL 1.0 so they don't work and I've tried the S4 mini, it won't actually fit, the port on the phone is a slightly different shape (?!)
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??? Settings>My Device>Accessories to turn off the 'docking mode'
Animations can be a bit sluggish because it's running at 30hz not 60hz like the standalone MHL 2.0 HDMI cable does. Samsung never released an updated version of this dock so I can only assume it wasn't a big hit. (And probably this is one of the reasons! Lack of a landscape support in the touchwiz launcher was a bit of a thumbs down aswell)
Any full sized S or Note phone after the S3/Note 2 should be compatible with this dock. I had it work for S3 and 4 and Note 2. Not had any others to try them out though. The Note 1 and S2 are only MHL 1.0 so they don't work and I've tried the S4 mini, it won't actually fit, the port on the phone is a slightly different shape (?!)
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Thanks for the explanation and feedback Dave =),
The S5 works just the same as an S4, the S4 Active with its inferior specification surprisingly works exactly the same too, furthermore I even tried two other flavors of the S4 (the Verizon version, the 9505 and the 9500) all operates the same.
However, the S6 does not work at all with the dock, regardless of my efforts.
Additionally, during my attempts I found out that if you use a micro USB extension cable (mine was only 2" in length) the dock wouldn't work, I tried using it so I could have the phone laying flat on a table instead of sitting inside the dock (reason was actually due to having an extended 7k battery on one of the above S4s and didn't want to remove it just to fit the phone in the dock ... ended up having to do so as ..... yeah, extension cable = not even charging from the dock)
Oh and with all of the devices that I used with the dock: their screen remind turned on and was displaying a mirror view of the external HDMI screen, unlike what you reported (touch working and no visual cue?)
In my opinion this device, the dock station, is almost as big of a fail as Samsung's wireless keyboard for their SmartTV line ... that doesn't (don't laugh) actually support any of their smart TVs (and does work on any BT enabled android/IOS/windows/linux device, just not on their own TVs despite actually having all the special buttons of their remotes) beyond that point, there's the fact that the keyboard's integrated touchpad is complete garbage (unlike say... Logitech's wireless keyboard's touchpad ...)
Use it correctly...
i have the same dock and all ports work fine. you only have to connect the the charger IN THE PORT and THEN insert the HDMI or USB.
As I promised, here is my review on using HP Elite Lap Dock X3 with my Note 9
First thing first, the connection quality.
I don't understand why, but it sometimes need several times of reconnecting my note 9 to the lap dock to be recognized properly. Sometimes, my phone recognizes it as only a HDMI monitor, so the keyboard and touchpad doesn't work. On other time, it sometimes shows up in a not FHD screen (it appears blurry and resolution is very low(. Both of this problem can be fixed by reconnecting the phone (sometimes, several times).
Secondly, the audio.
THIS is my main problem and hesitation on using my hp lap dock with a dex phone. On my rooted, Oreo Samsung S8, the audio just doesn't want to output to the HP Lap Dock. And.... It happens as well with my note 9.
Even worse, is the audio rerouting option. When I used my rooted S8, I can reroute the audio output to my S8 using Samsung's Smart Switch app. On my Note 9, when I checked the smartswitch options, there is only a HDMI output and USB Audio output. There is NO option to reroute the audio back to the phone.
*Just a note, my HP Lap Dock audio itself is working. I tested it by connecting it with my Surface Go and it can output sound pretty nice.
Third, the USB-C connector on the right.
Yep, just the same experience with my rooted S8, it doesn't work. Such a bummer.
Well, so far what I've reviewed is the bad side of using HP Lap Dock as dex compaion.. But what are the pros?
First of all, portability.
Well, actually not that portable since this lap dock is quite huge and you'll be getting a better laptop in this size using windows laptop or macbook. But, if you're in a pinch of money after getting sucked dry when pre-ordering your note 9, or you just wanted to show off note 9 capabilities, this is it.
Secondly, the screen and keyboard.
Well, basically this lap dock have a very good screen and keyboard. If you're planning on writing a lot of thing on the go, you can use this.
Personally, eve though I just bought a Microsoft Surface Go, I still prefer the android-dex for my main daily usage. The reason is, android just seems to be a lot practical to use (open youtube? just click the app, no need to type in the browser). The surface go only sits there to ensure whether there is some things that need to be done using .exe applications or complex writing using Microsoft full-fledge office 365 suite.
Hopefully, this review is helpful for anyone planning to use it
*For the record, my hp lap dock system version is at 8.0.11.0.
Anyone using different system version may encounter difference in experience.
Thanks for posting the review! I have messed around a little with my wife's Note 9 on my HP lapdock and I will post a review as well on this thread based on my own personal experience.
By the way, how do you know what system version your lapdock is using?
StupidNoob#317 said:
Thanks for posting the review! I have messed around a little with my wife's Note 9 on my HP lapdock and I will post a review as well on this thread based on my own personal experience.
By the way, how do you know what system version your lapdock is using?
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It is shown when you turn on the lap dock, and it shows whether to connect via USB c (on the left) or wireless display (on the right). On the right side, there is a lap dock software under the lap dock ID on wireless mirroring
I shot a quick raw video of me using my Note 9 with the HP lapdock. The speakers work great and the usb-c ports on the right are also functional. Also worth mentioning is that when I receive a phone call, the game music pauses and the audio re-routes to my bluetooth headset. When I am finished with the call, the sound routes back to the lapdock!
Link does not work. What happened?
@rbiter said:
Link does not work. What happened?
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Try
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MKchrias said:
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Woah, that's really nice..
Now I wonder why mine doesn't have a working speaker and right port..
Just picked up mine and everything works except for the trackpad. The trackpad mouse movements work fine but the left and right mouse clicks don't work at all. Finger tap for left click and two finger tap for right click work fine but not the physical trackpad buttons. Anyone else getting this too?
Does anyone know if the lapdock charge with a phone charger (QC 3.0 or PD) via the USB-C?
ihaveabu said:
Just picked up mine and everything works except for the trackpad. The trackpad mouse movements work fine but the left and right mouse clicks don't work at all. Finger tap for left click and two finger tap for right click work fine but not the physical trackpad buttons. Anyone else getting this too?
Does anyone know if the lapdock charge with a phone charger (QC 3.0 or PD) via the USB-C?
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Have tried several chargers (PD 30, 45W chargers and power banks from several manufacturers), still can't find one that charges the lapdock...
Thats a huge dealbreaker for me. Will probably have to return it. The power brick and cable is so insanely bulky kinda takes the point away of a compact device
StardustGeass said:
Have tried several chargers (PD 30, 45W chargers and power banks from several manufacturers), still can't find one that charges the lapdock...
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ihaveabu said:
Thats a huge dealbreaker for me. Will probably have to return it. The power brick and cable is so insanely bulky kinda takes the point away of a compact device
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Hahaha... I agree so much...
Well, for me, I just treat the power brick as my main phone charger as well.. that way, I'm not that bothered by it (since i always carry a backpack to work)..
My experience have been completely negative
The lap dock first I ensured to have the latest firmware T0059 - but the issue is a black screen and constantly rebooting is persistent.
Tried with several devices (Huawei P20 Pro, 2 Galaxy Note 9 -both Exynos, and the HP Elite X3 phone). Only with the Elite phone it worked as expected, keyboard worked fine too.
With Android devices, it was not working and although you could see the keyboard working fine, the screen kept between showing the HP logo then black screen the rebooting. The Touchpad did not work in this mode, only the keyboard and it was reported as an ITE Device(8595) by the keyboard options.
This is all tested using the wired mode and connecting via the usb-c port on the left of the lap dock. Tested also with several cables, some of them confirmed to be Thunderbolt USB-C 3.1 (Gen 2).
In wireless casting, using the Smart View option, I was able to push the video output through Miracast. But the keyboard, although working, it made double key-presses. The Touchpad did not work in this mode either. Audio output worked fine. Funny that connecting an external keyboard worked in this mode and it didn't do any double keypresses.
To make it sort of manageable, in my Exynos Note 9 at least, I had to:
-Push the video wirelessly via miracast & Smart View.
-Connect a keyboard (wireless and wired, doesn't matter) to the Lap dock
-Connect a mouse (I tried wireless) directly to the Note through a USB-C to USB-A adaptor.
The experience was okaish in this wireless mode. But still unhappy. I wish there was a way to debug it.
My test were all with Exynos Note 9, and some comments in Youtube suggest it could be that this only works with Snapdragon based Note 9. I have yet to try with a snapdragon device.
fbloise said:
My experience have been completely negative
The lap dock first I ensured to have the latest firmware T0059 - but the issue is a black screen and constantly rebooting is persistent.
Tried with several devices (Huawei P20 Pro, 2 Galaxy Note 9 -both Exynos, and the HP Elite X3 phone). Only with the Elite phone it worked as expected, keyboard worked fine too.
With Android devices, it was not working and although you could see the keyboard working fine, the screen kept between showing the HP logo then black screen the rebooting. The Touchpad did not work in this mode, only the keyboard and it was reported as an ITE Device(8595) by the keyboard options.
This is all tested using the wired mode and connecting via the usb-c port on the left of the lap dock. Tested also with several cables, some of them confirmed to be Thunderbolt USB-C 3.1 (Gen 2).
In wireless casting, using the Smart View option, I was able to push the video output through Miracast. But the keyboard, although working, it made double key-presses. The Touchpad did not work in this mode either. Audio output worked fine. Funny that connecting an external keyboard worked in this mode and it didn't do any double keypresses.
To make it sort of manageable, in my Exynos Note 9 at least, I had to:
-Push the video wirelessly via miracast & Smart View.
-Connect a keyboard (wireless and wired, doesn't matter) to the Lap dock
-Connect a mouse (I tried wireless) directly to the Note through a USB-C to USB-A adaptor.
The experience was okaish in this wireless mode. But still unhappy. I wish there was a way to debug it.
My test were all with Exynos Note 9, and some comments in Youtube suggest it could be that this only works with Snapdragon based Note 9. I have yet to try with a snapdragon device.
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For the note, I personally use an exynos one as well, and the wired mode does work (except for audio and USB ports)..
I think there are still unknown factors that made some of them work, while others don't...
ihaveabu said:
Thats a huge dealbreaker for me. Will probably have to return it. The power brick and cable is so insanely bulky kinda takes the point away of a compact device
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same, this is what primary issue holding me back from getting one.
considering the average battery life on the lap dock, it would be nice to be able to charge it using existing chargers I have around.
if anyone can confirm if they managed to get this charging please post some details of what it was. thanks
I have a Motorola Atrix lapdock. Do you think this can work too?
What's the product code for yours?
This one is Y1M48EA#ABB or #ABE i I'm not mistaken.
And I believe the one the american youtubers and redditors use is V8H07UT#ABA
It could be the third manufacturers building them for HP are diferent.
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What's the product code for yours?
This one is Y1M48EA#ABB or #ABE i I'm not mistaken.
And I believe the one the american youtubers and redditors use is V8H07UT#ABA
It could be the third manufacturers building them for HP are diferent.
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Mine is V8H07UT#ABA, bought it refurbished from eBay about a year ago...
Working wired connection without USB and audio output..
A very kind redditor confirmed his working Lap Dock is model V8H07UTR#ABA - another American SKU it seems.
It sort of proves my points that American lap dock models work but European models don't. Perhaps different components due to difference in local regulations?
ihaveabu said:
Thats a huge dealbreaker for me. Will probably have to return it. The power brick and cable is so insanely bulky kinda takes the point away of a compact device
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The Inateck 60W USB C Charger with 2-Meter Type C Cable works for me.
Cant post link as I'm new here (apparently)
Rakesh:
I think you need to post 10 times to be able to lift those restrictions.
Here is the link that Rakesh wanted to share:
Inateck 60W USB C Charger with 2-Meter Type C Cable
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B076Q6Z2RL?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Mind that the cable is not thunderbolt so it will only charge your lapdock but it cannot be used for connecting Note 9 to the lapdock.
I got this one and its Gen 2 USB 3.1 so it works fine:
Anker PowerLine II USB-C to USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 Cable (3ft)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072JYDQ7N/