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[Q] Samsung smart dock doesn't fully work on s4,Has anyone encounter issues using it?

Hi all
I recently bought samsung galaxy smart dock from aliexpress it was available for $ 35 dollars at the time of purchase.Basically It was samsung smart dock for note 2.On description it was mentioned that it would work with s4 and note 3.I tried using dock on galaxy s4 I9505 but none of the usb ports are working, tried many usb,mouse,keyboard none of them work.I have been experimenting with the dock but only hdmi is working.The phone recognises the dock and when connected it switches to dock mode but doesn't responds to any usb device. Have tried changing data cables and chargers and still not working.
Am I missing any stepstep in using dock,Is smart dock faulty or is this fake smart dock?
I have attached the picture of the dock.

I'm having problems too.
The HDMI on mine works but if I plug anything in the USB ports then the HDMI will flash on and off. If I use mine with mouse and keyboard plugged in but use the screen on the phone (nothing plugged in to HDMI) they work fine. Not sure what to do. It is as if there is not enough power to run all of it.

I have a smart dock and ran into the same trouble. I found that if i plugged in the USB devices before I docked the phone the usb would work great. I have tried a USB keyboard with additional USB ports, a USB mouse, and a wireless USB keyboard/touchpad combo. All have worked fine. I hope this helps.

Hello. I have those... my s4 no charging. Everytin is ok. But not chargin very well

walter2 said:
The HDMI on mine works but if I plug anything in the USB ports then the HDMI will flash on and off. If I use mine with mouse and keyboard plugged in but use the screen on the phone (nothing plugged in to HDMI) they work fine. Not sure what to do. It is as if there is not enough power to run all of it.
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Use geninue samsung charger of 2000 ma. Either the one that was supplied by the phone or the one that came with the smart dock.Try changing data cables.Samsung data cables are little thicker than ordinary cables.
The problem with my smart dock was that it had one broken pin of front connector,that pin was bend when I inspected closely . So I bought another one and all usb,hdmi and charging function is working at same time.I tested using usb 4 gb,keyboard and mouse. Then I plugged speakers and connected to tv .All function were working.:

ErisDroid? said:
I have a smart dock and ran into the same trouble. I found that if i plugged in the USB devices before I docked the phone the usb would work great. I have tried a USB keyboard with additional USB ports, a USB mouse, and a wireless USB keyboard/touchpad combo. All have worked fine. I hope this helps.
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The problem with my smart dock was that it had one broken pin of front connector,that pin was bend when I inspected closely . So I bought another smart dock and all usb,hdmi and charging function is working at same time.The dock works no matter in which order you use it.I found on the new one that you can plug keyboard, mouse or any usb product before of after putting phone,all works flawlessly.

I had a Smart Dock a while ago and had to return it because after some minor issues with the device not charging, hdmi not working... that usually only needed reconnecting it stopped working, and that happened after having used it few times, I have the feeling they have low build quality. I suggest you try to return it and get other solution.

I got refund from the seller on aliexpress.I came to know that smart dock was itself faulty and it was a copy of original galaxy smart dock.
The connector pin that was bended inwards and was not broken I fixed it later by adjusting the pin with needle and came to know it was not only the issue.I came to kow that if any pin is broken inside connector,Phone will never recognize the dock.In my case phone was recognizing the dock just the dock itself was not responding to any usb device.
The smart dock still then didn't worked although my phone goes to dock mode when connected.Only hdmi and charging works.I returned the product. and bought another one from ebay which is working flawlessly now

I have this dock, I actually bought it from Samsung.com and for some odd reason ended up paying a total of $175usd for it ._.
(original price was $100, shipping ended up as another $30, and then it was wrongfully seized by costumes which nothing short of demanded $45usd or else they confiscate it, I could appeal but that would take ~six months and ... I will face storage charges meanwhile...... which is complete BS.)
As for its functionality:
This thing, on my i9505 works like charm, no need to do any sort of voodoo like putting the USB devices before plugging the device, I simply plug anything I want in any order I want, external 2TB HD? no problems, Logitech G500 mouse? yep, a Filco USB keyboard? aha, 48" SmartTV ? yep.
Everything works, the device "kicks in" some kind of "docking station mode" and everything works from there.
However: this "docking station mode" cannot be avoided or escaped and only apps that show up in it work (stock browser\gallery\mp3\calendar\alarm clock) .. and it works with a small delay, like as if the mouse sits behind a time delay of ~200ms, you know, just slightly faster than 1\4 of a second, same goes for the keyboard, video however plays at the same time was on the phone but UI animations are slightly slowed (both on phone and external display)
This delay is making the overall expriance to be very bad, I can only imagine that the note 2\s3 must feel even slower.
I also have the other simpler adapter that only goes to the power adapter\HDMI (Samsung's as well, from another order, originally bought it for my old n7000\note 1), with that thing the UI is just as slow, everything works essentially the same... video plays wihout issues ETC
What I found out is that with the dock station you cant use any micro-usb extension cable (so that .. the S4 could be used with an extended battery case [or just any non generic thick case]) but with the HDMI adapter it does work (also the female USB adapter, the one that allows you to plug a single device such as thumb-drive\mouse\keyboard - does work with extended micro usb cable)
And last observation:
When using the Sony Expria Z3 Compact (comes with Snapdragon 801) with the Samsung HDMI adapter... it works PERFECTLY, super fast, no delays, UI smooth, and all apps (Everything, really) is accessible... even Blizzard's new Android Hearthstone game... everything, meanwhile the S4 is sluggish as hell and super unfun to use :\
Oh and no phone other than Samsung's works on the docking station, not even old Samsung note 1 (tried nexus 5, lg g2, lg g3, galaxy s1, expria z3 compact, galaxy s2 - only the S4 worked with the dock)

samXLR said:
However: this "docking station mode" cannot be avoided or escaped and only apps that show up in it work (stock browser\gallery\mp3\calendar\alarm clock) .. and it works with a small delay, like as if the mouse sits behind a time delay of ~200ms, you know, just slightly faster than 1\4 of a second, same goes for the keyboard, video however plays at the same time was on the phone but UI animations are slightly slowed (both on phone and external display)
This delay is making the overall expriance to be very bad, I can only imagine that the note 2\s3 must feel even slower.
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??? Settings>My Device>Accessories to turn off the 'docking mode'
Animations can be a bit sluggish because it's running at 30hz not 60hz like the standalone MHL 2.0 HDMI cable does. Samsung never released an updated version of this dock so I can only assume it wasn't a big hit. (And probably this is one of the reasons! Lack of a landscape support in the touchwiz launcher was a bit of a thumbs down aswell)
I had some problems with HDMI output after a while and initially thought the dock at fault but replacing the usb port in my S4 solved all problems. After about a year of use, dust and grime and crap tends to mess them up. Had the same situation with the S2. Gone past the 2 year point now with my S4, so probably due to replace the port again.
Having a mouse and keyboard plugged in, automatically turns off the device screen, but the touch stills work if you need to do a 'pinch' gesture or similar.
Any full sized S or Note phone after the S3/Note 2 should be compatible with this dock. I had it work for S3 and 4 and Note 2. Not had any others to try them out though. The Note 1 and S2 are only MHL 1.0 so they don't work and I've tried the S4 mini, it won't actually fit, the port on the phone is a slightly different shape (?!)

dave106 said:
??? Settings>My Device>Accessories to turn off the 'docking mode'
Animations can be a bit sluggish because it's running at 30hz not 60hz like the standalone MHL 2.0 HDMI cable does. Samsung never released an updated version of this dock so I can only assume it wasn't a big hit. (And probably this is one of the reasons! Lack of a landscape support in the touchwiz launcher was a bit of a thumbs down aswell)
Any full sized S or Note phone after the S3/Note 2 should be compatible with this dock. I had it work for S3 and 4 and Note 2. Not had any others to try them out though. The Note 1 and S2 are only MHL 1.0 so they don't work and I've tried the S4 mini, it won't actually fit, the port on the phone is a slightly different shape (?!)
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Thanks for the explanation and feedback Dave =),
The S5 works just the same as an S4, the S4 Active with its inferior specification surprisingly works exactly the same too, furthermore I even tried two other flavors of the S4 (the Verizon version, the 9505 and the 9500) all operates the same.
However, the S6 does not work at all with the dock, regardless of my efforts.
Additionally, during my attempts I found out that if you use a micro USB extension cable (mine was only 2" in length) the dock wouldn't work, I tried using it so I could have the phone laying flat on a table instead of sitting inside the dock (reason was actually due to having an extended 7k battery on one of the above S4s and didn't want to remove it just to fit the phone in the dock ... ended up having to do so as ..... yeah, extension cable = not even charging from the dock)
Oh and with all of the devices that I used with the dock: their screen remind turned on and was displaying a mirror view of the external HDMI screen, unlike what you reported (touch working and no visual cue?)
In my opinion this device, the dock station, is almost as big of a fail as Samsung's wireless keyboard for their SmartTV line ... that doesn't (don't laugh) actually support any of their smart TVs (and does work on any BT enabled android/IOS/windows/linux device, just not on their own TVs despite actually having all the special buttons of their remotes) beyond that point, there's the fact that the keyboard's integrated touchpad is complete garbage (unlike say... Logitech's wireless keyboard's touchpad ...)

Use it correctly...
i have the same dock and all ports work fine. you only have to connect the the charger IN THE PORT and THEN insert the HDMI or USB.

Makeshift USB/HDMI "Dock"...?

I want to take advantage of the S5 MHL capability. Perhaps eventually using the phone as my everyday computer.
So I would need to have usb keyboard and mouse while connected to a monitor.
I have ordered the device pictured below, it reportedly supports the S5 in some kind of half-assed way, meaning that you may have to fiddle with inserting cables in a certain order to get it to work.
This is what I read anyway.
I want to know if any of you have used the Galaxy S5 in such a way. Will my device work? Know of a better solution?
I had some dreams of making my own Diy S5 dock, but I would have to know what kind of electronic/hardware configuration works (if any), as the S5 is different in that it does not support dock mode (Why samsung... why?).

Well I can report that it works. HDMI out works with sound, and it charges while doing so, but the USB port and the card reader does not work apparently.
Obviously the form of the device is a poor match for the Galaxy S5. I had to remove the plastic housing to make it fit, because of the watertight hatch in front of the USB port. Later I will use a USB extender cable.
Hopefully there is a possibility to make OTG (or host mode, or whatever it's called) work.

It appears this device supports the S5
http://andromiumos.freeforums.net/thread/4/officially-supported-android-phones?page=1&scrollTo=4
http://www.andromiumos.com/

There is two question marks here.
1) Does S5 support simultaneously operation with OTG active and HDMI output active.
2) Does this gadget also support such a functionality?

I don't know. I've read people claiming that you can use both hdmi & otg at the same time including post's on xda. But i've also read people saying you can't. I certainly havn't seen any video demonstrations.
By the way i currently have my S5 displayed on my monitor using mhl->hdmi adapter and have my pc mouse and keyboard working on the S5 wirelessly with Samsung SideSync. I opened the xda app with the pc mouse and have typed this reply with the pc keyboard. I've done some navigation on the phone, opened and used a range of apps. All is well till i opened firefox and the mouse disappeared from the monitor. It's still displayed and functional on the S5 screen though. Closed firefox and the mouse is displayed on the monitor again.
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA-Developers mobile app

mbdroidsony said:
All is well till i opened Firefox and the mouse disappeared from the monitor.
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Therefore your new question this is : Does Firefox (Android) this supports four input devices connected at the same time?
Android Keyboard = 1
External keyboard = 2
Android touch pad = 3
external mouse = 4
And all that active by also active HDMI
I would be surprised if Android OS has such potentials.

I was using Andromium OS app which gives you option to turn off android keyboard and dim S5 screen. Both those functions worked. Andromium OS has 3 menus from start menu. Andromium Apps(browser, file manager), Supported Apps (gmail, youtube), Unsupported apps (all other apps installed on device). PC mouse and keyboard worked fine with Andromium Apps & Supported App. PC mouse and keyboard also worked fine with most unsupported apps i tested except firefox browser and adblock browser. If i get my hands on a bluetooth mouse/keyboard i'll test again to see if it works with firefox browser and adblock browser from monitor.

Personally I am going to use my HP iPAQ FA287 Bluetooth keyboard at S5 ( or at least I will try).
Also ordered one OTG cable (CY U2-166) that hopefully this will offer power to the phone and External HDD, due micro USB (female input for charger cable) and this will become also my mouse input too.
Therefore I am interested for your inquiry / investigation, possibly as much you do, because I do also favor Firefox.

I favour android firefox browser and adblock browser because they are consistent in providing desktop view. I'll provide an update here when i get my hands on a bluetooth mouse & keyboard.

Kiriakos-GR said:
Personally I am going to use my HP iPAQ FA287 Bluetooth keyboard at S5 ( or at least I will try).
Also ordered one OTG cable (CY U2-166) that hopefully this will offer power to the phone and External HDD, due micro USB (female input for charger cable) and this will become also my mouse input too.
Therefore I am interested for your inquiry / investigation, possibly as much you do, because I do also favor Firefox.
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Hi, did this cable charge your S5 while using OTG/USB Host?
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA-Developers mobile app

mbdroidsony said:
Hi, did this cable charge your S5 while using OTG/USB Host?
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My cable did not arrive yet from China.
But even so, in the past days I did some research about finding more details by discovering the factory that makes those cables.
According to real Specifications: (after me correcting errors due bad translation)
High quality Original USB 2.0 Micro-B HOST OTG CABLE
Interface:
Micro USB male: = Output To be connected with OTG complying device ( Your phone or tablet).
Micro USB female: = DC input To charge = Supply of Power due micro USB female connector ( This is only to supply DC voltage to USB A plug this powering hard drives etc etc).
USB female: To connect with USB A device.
Therefore or in conclusion, this cable is not in position to supply power for the phone and the external hard drive.
Later on, that I did the electrical math, I can now explain and the why ? (this cable cannot do both).
By assuming that mobile phone or tablet this requiring 450mA at charging (due PC USB plug), and removable hard-drives (some of them requiring another stable supply of 500mA) the sum this is almost 1A of power.
Manufacturing of OTG cables this requiring from the manufacturer, him to make a product according to OTG cable international standards (compatibility - safety - functionality).
Only if Samsung makes a OTG cable specifically for S5, this will be able for active Host and charging.
All cables available at the moment, them have generic compatibility and non of them will work as we expect or wish.

Kiriakos-GR said:
My cable did not arrive yet from China.
But even so, in the past days I did some research about finding more details by discovering the factory that makes those cables.
According to real Specifications: (after me correcting errors due bad translation)
High quality Original USB 2.0 Micro-B HOST OTG CABLE
Interface:
Micro USB male: = Output To be connected with OTG complying device ( Your phone or tablet).
Micro USB female: = DC input To charge = Supply of Power due micro USB female connector ( This is only to supply DC voltage to USB A plug this powering hard drives etc etc).
USB female: To connect with USB A device.
Therefore or in conclusion, this cable is not in position to supply power for the phone and the external hard drive.
Later on, that I did the electrical math, I can now explain and the why ? (this cable cannot do both).
By assuming that mobile phone or tablet this requiring 450mA at charging (due PC USB plug), and removable hard-drives (some of them requiring another stable supply of 500mA) the sum this is almost 1A of power.
Manufacturing of OTG cables this requiring from the manufacturer, him to make a product according to OTG cable international standards (compatibility - safety - functionality).
Only if Samsung makes a OTG cable specifically for S5, this will be able for active Host and charging.
All cables available at the moment, them have generic compatibility and non of them will work as we expect or wish.
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Samsung hasn't made it easy for us S5 users. Might have to resort to wireless charging at this rate.
Samsung Galaxy S5 Qi Wireless Charging Kit EP-WG900IBEGWW

Just going to throw this out there...
Why not use a bluetooth mouse/keyboard (or even one of those combined ones) with the phone mirroring it's screen to a ChromeCast plugged into your monitor? There's minimal (and I mean you're looking at 10ms) lag - or that's my experience, but I have a really really really fast router etc - and if you're planning on using it essentially as a PC, this setup will work wonders. Plus you can plug the phone in. I've considered using my old S3 in this way.

yetep said:
Just going to throw this out there...
Why not use a bluetooth mouse/keyboard (or even one of those combined ones) with the phone mirroring it's screen to a ChromeCast plugged into your monitor? There's minimal (and I mean you're looking at 10ms) lag - or that's my experience, but I have a really really really fast router etc - and if you're planning on using it essentially as a PC, this setup will work wonders. Plus you can plug the phone in. I've considered using my old S3 in this way.
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Charging the S5 through 2A cable would be faster than wireless charging. MHL to HDMI adapter charges the phone as well as mirror your phones screen. I've never used bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Would the S5 support pairing and using both mouse and keyboard at the same time?
By the way there are products for the S3,S4 that support mhl, otg & charging at the same time like the UNITEK Y-2165.
http://www.amazon.com/UNITEK-Multim...5&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00OFKY4XA#Ask

mbdroidsony said:
By the way there are products for the S3,S4 that support mhl, otg & charging at the same time like the UNITEK Y-2165.
http://www.amazon.com/UNITEK-Multim...5&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00OFKY4XA#Ask
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Speaking of compatibility, S5 this is a brother model to Note III.
I do such an assumption due the identical charging system specifications.
From the other hand with all those variants of G900, there is no chance to offer an 100% reliable prediction if you do not test any such OTG product with your own phone.
The link above this is about a Currently unavailable product.
Even so it is interesting that this worked for someone with Note III.

mbdroidsony said:
Charging the S5 through 2A cable would be faster than wireless charging. MHL to HDMI adapter charges the phone as well as mirror your phones screen. I've never used bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Would the S5 support pairing and using both mouse and keyboard at the same time?
By the way there are products for the S3,S4 that support mhl, otg & charging at the same time like the UNITEK Y-2165.
http://www.amazon.com/UNITEK-Multim...5&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00OFKY4XA#Ask
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The S5 (or certainly my model, G900T) DOES support everything I mentioned however my bluetooth mouse/keyboard is a 2 in 1 setup with the mouse being a trackpad below the keyboard, similar to a laptop. It mirrors directly to my monitor and I've forced Landscape orientation throughout the OS so it works wonderfully. I've not tried yet with the S3, but I'd assume it'd work the same way. Just need to force the screen to stay always on, pop the screen brightness right down and hide it away in a cupboard and boom, full android computer.
On the original question, a cable must exist but unfortuantely I don't know where.

yetep said:
Just need to force the screen to stay always on, pop the screen brightness right down and hide it away in a cupboard and boom, full android computer.
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Definable this is a bad idea the screen to stay always on.
Does phone screen brightness this have any effect at HDMI output (brightness) ?

Nope, but turning it off does. I don't mind it burning out as it's an old device I don't use.

yetep said:
Nope, but turning it off does. I don't mind it burning out as it's an old device I don't use.
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I bet 20 Euros that every one reading this topic he/her, will wonder of why you/he, does not simply turn the brightness down.
Either way, Android it is crippled operating system with out offering much of productivity as it does one regular Windows PC.
Neither a smartphone this is capable for long term gaming, the poor thing does not even have active cooling, and CPU will start slowdown so to protect it self from overheat.
My 0,2 cents, you are in a wrong path.

Kiriakos-GR said:
Speaking of compatibility, S5 this is a brother model to Note III.
I do such an assumption due the identical charging system specifications.
From the other hand with all those variants of G900, there is no chance to offer an 100% reliable prediction if you do not test any such OTG product with your own phone.
The link above this is about a Currently unavailable product.
Even so it is interesting that this worked for someone with Note III.
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The link i gave has a few reviews that can give you an idea of what phones are compatible and which ones arn't. Youtube has video demos of the UNITEK Y-2165, unfortunately none for the S5. It appears the desktop dock feature is on the Note III where as samsung removed the dock feature from the S5.
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yetep said:
The S5 (or certainly my model, G900T) DOES support everything I mentioned however my bluetooth mouse/keyboard is a 2 in 1 setup with the mouse being a trackpad below the keyboard, similar to a laptop. It mirrors directly to my monitor and I've forced Landscape orientation throughout the OS so it works wonderfully. I've not tried yet with the S3, but I'd assume it'd work the same way. Just need to force the screen to stay always on, pop the screen brightness right down and hide it away in a cupboard and boom, full android computer.
On the original question, a cable must exist but unfortuantely I don't know where.
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oh ok, so only 1 device paired.
There's a great app for having screen brightness right down called Screen Standby.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nkahoang.screenstandby&hl=en
The adronium os app forces landscape.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andromium.os&hl=en
I tell you what, i really like the concept of carring you desktop in your pocket. Can you imagine that, doing your desktop stuff, unplug the phone and head out with everything you did at home on the desktop in your pocket. I know microsoft have a desktop adapter for their Lumia 950 XL phones which changes the layout to desktop mode on the monitor/tv to give you that PC-like experience.
Microsoft Display Dock
https://www.microsoft.com/en/mobile/accessory/hd-500/
It's a real shame samsung removed dock support from the S5.

ASUS ZenScreen GO MB16AP - Will it work with Dex?

https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/MB16AP/
I'm thinking of getting the Zenscreen Go (when it's available) to work with Note 9's Dex mode since it can double as secondary screen for my laptop too when I need it. However, I'm not sure if it will actually work with the Note 9. Any ideas/comments?

IsolatedAbyss said:
https://www.asus.com/us/Monitors/MB16AP/
I'm thinking of getting the Zenscreen Go (when it's available) to work with Note 9's Dex mode since it can double as secondary screen for my laptop too when I need it. However, I'm not sure if it will actually work with the Note 9. Any ideas/comments?
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I don't see why it won't work. Be cautious though for a battery drain, since the monitor uses USB-C for its power as well, instead of using (having) its own battery.
I'd recommend for you to get a HP Elite x3 Lap Dock instead if you meant to bring it out for "portability" (15.6 inch is not portable for me at all) if you plan to mainly using it with your phone. Just think of using your N9 as a bonus of getting it work with a laptop.

StardustGeass said:
I don't see why it won't work. Be cautious though for a battery drain, since the monitor uses USB-C for its power as well, instead of using (having) its own battery.
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The MB16AP has its own battery. The big question is when will it become available.

Yea, the screen has it's own battery. I know Dex works using USB C to HDMI, but I'm not sure if USB C to USB C will work with the Zenscreen or not.
I have considered the HP Lapdock but without the phone it is just deadweight. At least the Zenscreen can serve as a second display for my laptop so I'll be getting more utility out of it.

IsolatedAbyss said:
Yea, the screen has it's own battery. I know Dex works using USB C to HDMI, but I'm not sure if USB C to USB C will work with the Zenscreen or not.
I have considered the HP Lapdock but without the phone it is just deadweight. At least the Zenscreen can serve as a second display for my laptop so I'll be getting more utility out of it.
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USB C to C will work. I use an HP Elite Lap Dock with a USB C connector..
Regarding HP Lapdock, it is not. If you're using Note 9 with it, your phone will still functions as usual. The deadweight happens if you're using older DeX phone that doesn't support dual screen DeX.
*sorry the photo is unintentionally uploaded and i don't know how to delete it...

StardustGeass said:
*sorry the photo is unintentionally uploaded and i don't know how to delete it...
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If you're on a desktop PC:
Click on the Edit button,located right below your post,towards the right side of your screen.
Then click on Advanced, should be in the same area.
Scroll down until you see your attachments,click on Manage Attachments, then delete & save.

KOLIOSIS said:
If you're on a desktop PC:
Click on the Edit button,located right below your post,towards the right side of your screen.
Then click on Advanced, should be in the same area.
Scroll down until you see your attachments,click on Manage Attachments, then delete & save.
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Noted, gonna do it once I grab a desktop PC... Currently only android is available XD

StardustGeass said:
Noted, gonna do it once I grab a desktop PC... Currently only android is available XD
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If you use desktop mode in Chrome,you should be able to do the same.
At least ya didn't upload something best kept in a secure folder/etc...........

Asus is coming out with a touch version of the MB16AP, but I've searched high and low for the model number and came up with nothing, and who knows when it will come out. In the meantime I ordered the MB16AP on ebay which is the non-touch version with the battery and it should arrive next week. According to the Asus website, it should be compatible with any android phone (version 5.0 or above) and most laptops with Displaylink drivers. So I assume it will work with the Note 9 in Dex mode.
TS out

twospirits said:
Asus is coming out with a touch version of the MB16AP, but I've searched high and low for the model number and came up with nothing, and who knows when it will come out. In the meantime I ordered the MB16AP on ebay which is the non-touch version with the battery and it should arrive next week. According to the Asus website, it should be compatible with any android phone (version 5.0 or above) and most laptops with Displaylink drivers. So I assume it will work with the Note 9 in Dex mode.
TS out
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Good to see ya here in the Note 9 forum TS ! :good:

Nice!
Wow i'm sure glad I saw this.... been looking for something like that HP Lapdock. I got the Sentio Superbook and after a year and a half it was quite a let-down. Tech just changes so fast and the user experience was not good. Played around with Dex and it works well for my needs.

Well that external monitor (MB16AP) came in this past week and I've been testing it with the Note 9. First of all, she is a beauty. Works with the Note 9 and DeX without any issues. On the Note 8, I had blackouts and all sorts of issues using either a hdmi or vga monitor. Since then I've upgraded to the Note 9 and the same issues appear but less so. It was somewhat manageable. I figure it may have been the monitors and not the Notes. But when I hooked up the Note 9 to the Zenscreen MB16AP, wow what a difference. Smooth as butter.
The only issue I've encountered is since the Note 9 and the Zenscreen use a single USB-C cable, there is no way to use any usb or usb dongle wireless mouse and keyboard. You are either forced to use the built in Note 9 keyboard and use the touch screen as the mouse. The monitor finally showed up on Amazon and its about $50 more than on ebay due to the shipping. But at least Amazon has a way better return policy that the two outfits on ebay that are selling the model.
I did a somewhat review of the monitor on Amazon.
edit: forgot the pics
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I was about to get a zenscreen go, before I got an HP X3 Lapdock. I'm rly glad I got it instead, cause I was gonna get the Zenscreen, and a BT keyboard and mouse to mimick a lapdock like miracast.
No need for that nonsense now. If anyone gets an HP lapdock, the only combo I've seen work consistently is the Snapdragon Note 9 + The american Lapdock model which starts with a V. All the other models have various things that don't work. They start with a Y. I'd also avoid getting a refurbished one, as it's not known is they used parts from other models that are not compatible with the Note 9. Just get it new on amazon or ebay. new.

I got the HP Lapdock and boy so glad I did. For my needs it's perfect. Everything works great and the battery lasts a long time.... I ran it over 7 hours yesterday to test. The only thing that doesn't work is left and right clicking on the touchpad do nothing. You have to use gestures.... but I use a mouse anyway.....
Seriously Samsung needs to make their own lapdock for dex.....
kill_dano said:
I was about to get a zenscreen go, before I got an HP X3 Lapdock. I'm rly glad I got it instead, cause I was gonna get the Zenscreen, and a BT keyboard and mouse to mimick a lapdock like miracast.
No need for that nonsense now. If anyone gets an HP lapdock, the only combo I've seen work consistently is the Snapdragon Note 9 + The american Lapdock model which starts with a V. All the other models have various things that don't work. They start with a Y. I'd also avoid getting a refurbished one, as it's not known is they used parts from other models that are not compatible with the Note 9. Just get it new on amazon or ebay. new.
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I have an Asus MB16AC that I use with my laptop. I tried it the other day, but the monitor would only power on for 1-2 seconds. This evening, I charged the phone to 100% and tried again.
Using the USB-C to USB-C cable to the Note 9, screen mirroring works great, but only lasts for a short time. Playing video makes the monitor power off even faster. Definitely a problem powering the display from the phone.
Switching to Dex mode makes everything go black. I assume that Dex mode takes more power.
I'll order a powered USB3 hub and try again. I can't seem to find a USB-C hub that has USB-C ports, except for one that does PD (Power Delivery).

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Well that external monitor (MB16AP) came in this past week and I've been testing it with the Note 9. First of all, she is a beauty. Works with the Note 9 and DeX without any issues. On the Note 8, I had blackouts and all sorts of issues using either a hdmi or vga monitor. Since then I've upgraded to the Note 9 and the same issues appear but less so. It was somewhat manageable. I figure it may have been the monitors and not the Notes. But when I hooked up the Note 9 to the Zenscreen MB16AP, wow what a difference. Smooth as butter.
The only issue I've encountered is since the Note 9 and the Zenscreen use a single USB-C cable, there is no way to use any usb or usb dongle wireless mouse and keyboard. You are either forced to use the built in Note 9 keyboard and use the touch screen as the mouse. The monitor finally showed up on Amazon and its about $50 more than on ebay due to the shipping. But at least Amazon has a way better return policy that the two outfits on ebay that are selling the model.
I did a somewhat review of the monitor on Amazon.
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Have you found a solution for the power? Wouldn't charging the phone with Qi help or USB-C PD is needed? I have not found any adapter allowing out on phone, and in by another USB-C that would send power.

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Have you found a solution for the power? Wouldn't charging the phone with Qi help or USB-C PD is needed? I have not found any adapter allowing out on phone, and in by another USB-C that would send power.
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Yes I can place the phone on a wireless charger while using the USB-C cable to send the DEX display to the monitor. But it seems the monitor is taking up more juice than it gets. Thus depleting the battery eventually. You would think that if the Note 9 is supplying the power to the monitor that the monitor would not use the internal battery but it seems that it does. Then if the internal battery goes down to 0, it will not allow Dex to display until the internal battery has at least 5% juice. It baffles me why Asus did not include a splitter of some sort or have the device have another USB-C port for charging.
btw that USB-C 3.1 Gen 2 cable by NekTeck is a suitable replacement for the OEM Asus USB-C cable.

Dextop setup...

Starting a thread to see what kind of kooky and cool ideas peeps have come up with for their setup.
I just bought another Logitech MX570 trackball mouse. My 3rd. I like to go back and forth between traditional mice (MX Performance) and trackball so I don't get carpal tunnel and tendonitis. I'm up in the air about the dedicated keyboard. I will probably get the Logitech K800 as that has been my favorite so far. I would like to try the Craft but too expensive.
I know many of you are just going straight usb-c to HDMI adapter and using Bluetooth accessories. Those are welcome too. It would be really nice if Logitech came out with a sweet sweet keyboard with touchpad built in. There are a couple but the cheap one is just that, cheap and low quality. I bought my mom the K400 and it works fine for her but not for me. Logitech needs to step up their game on a keyboard with touchpad built in.
I am also using Logitech because of the unifying receiver so only USB port is taken for 2 accessories. Have not decided on a USB thumb drive yet.
What setups are you running for productivity with DEX? Please share so there is a thread peeps (that actually use the search function) can come and see what options there are to fit their workflow. Or haven't thought of.
I will update later today see if my USB controllers work for emulators and what the latency is, which I am hoping is just as good as mouse input. I was expecting critical latency that would make the experience bad.
Anybody try with a USB powered monitor yet?

I'm sorry, but..... pics or it didn't happen, right?

I invested in this dex stuff just as a hobby. I already have 4 pc’s plus a laptop and an iPad Pro 12.9 i carry with me daily.
I passed on it with the note 8 but thought to give it a go the note 9.
I also use the mxperformance mouse for my pcs but i picked up a jelly comb foldable portable wireless keyboard. It has a click-style mouse pad and the keypad is pleasant to use. I also picked up the dex pad , hdmi 2.0b latest spec hdmi cable.
I guess a good way to use this setup will be when I download films to the device. Rather than copy the file over to the pc, i can just connect the dex to the display and have better flexibility.

I found the jelly comb folding keyboard to be crap. Double characters everywhere. Moved to a generic wireless mouse on one of the USB ports and an MS folding BT keyboard. It's replaced my work laptop for 80% of tasks. Oh and powering the HDMI adapter by a Nintendo switch USB C power supply as it kicks out 2.6A which is enough to charge the phone at the same time.

I probably won't post a pic (if I even remember) until Friday or Saturday. I think I will try using it one day and a USB 3 thumb drive. I think DEX only supports USB 2 though. Another missed opportunity by Samsung to make this an even better pseudo desktop experience. Did Sammy use 3 or 3.1 for their USB C? Having two or even one USB 3 A port would've been sweet for local storage. Between a Logitech unifying receiver and a SanDisk UltraFit USB 3 drive and you're talking one smaller desktop.
Samsung could make some corny commercials pitting it against Intel NUC boxes like their Apple commercials. ???

Hi guys I have my dex set up, however I'm looking for a Bluetooth keyboard my monitor only has an hdmi, vga connection so I need advice on what will be my best option maybe I should get a cable with a USB receiver for an wireless keyboard any inputs are welcomed thanks.

I'm using my Note9 with Dex running on HP X3 lap dock. Great setup for travel but also when I need to edit things locally on the phone----tasker for example. Everything works on the lap dock including sound. Track pad works but could be better.

soundneedle said:
I'm using my Note9 with Dex running on HP X3 lap dock. Great setup for travel but also when I need to edit things locally on the phone----tasker for example. Everything works on the lap dock including sound. Track pad works but could be better.
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Woah, you have a working sound for hp elite? Is there any special way to get it?

I had picked up a DeX dock from Amazon for 60 bucks. I used a logitech anywhere BT mouse and the blue BT keyboard. Mouse and keyboard work great. Resolution looks crappy, seem kinda blurry for a 1080p screen. Still needs work, I was hoping to get the DeX working good enough to use as a htpc streamer for my living room TV. Still fun to play around with tho.
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does DeX work with any cheap HDMI to usb C adapter that supports 4k and 60 Hz? There are some on eBay for 7 bucks

dex output is crystal clear for me. I have used this on an lg 4K 27 inch monitor and my old school plasma Panasonic 3D display from 2011
I have a late spec hdmi 2.0b cable and again the resolution is not blurry at all. Plenty of videos on the web to also show the clarity .
Yes dex works with a regular hdmi spec cable usb c to hdmi. I have also used dex with just a cable (waiting on the pad tho show up)

What happens when incoming call?
Hi. Not sure where to post this. Thinking of jumping from iPhone to Note9
Can somebody tell me if I will be able to use the Note9 as a normal handset with an incoming call? (While in Dex). Everything I see indicates the acutal Note9 runs independent when docked but I can't find any example of making/receiving a call on one.
I want to use a USB extension cable and just be able to use the phone like normal when connected to Dex. Not sure what happens to the audio if I'm also using external speakers via Dex.
Thanks!

RTNote9 said:
Hi. Not sure where to post this. Thinking of jumping from iPhone to Note9
Can somebody tell me if I will be able to use the Note9 as a normal handset with an incoming call? (While in Dex). Everything I see indicates the acutal Note9 runs independent when docked but I can't find any example of making/receiving a call on one.
I want to use a USB extension cable and just be able to use the phone like normal when connected to Dex. Not sure what happens to the audio if I'm also using external speakers via Dex.
Thanks!
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I've received several phone calls when on DeX.. Since I'm working in a personal room, I'm just answering the phone calls using speakerphone.. If you're using external speaker, the audio will be routed there (I once used my UE Boom 2 speaker for answering call)

thanks.
I know I'm still connected to Dex via a USB-C extension cable but I'd like to be able to just pick up the phone and use it "privately" like normal. Is that possible?
I believe something changed with the Note9 making it work differently with Dex.

RTNote9 said:
thanks.
I know I'm still connected to Dex via a USB-C extension cable but I'd like to be able to just pick up the phone and use it "privately" like normal. Is that possible?
I believe something changed with the Note9 making it work differently with Dex.
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If you're using USB-C to monitor, in my experience, you can just answer phone normally on phone

vwite said:
does DeX work with any cheap HDMI to usb C adapter that supports 4k and 60 Hz? There are some on eBay for 7 bucks
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Got one for 20 that works fine

vwite said:
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I got mines from Amazon for $15 no issues, got it hook up to a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.

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Hi guys I have my dex set up, however I'm looking for a Bluetooth keyboard my monitor only has an hdmi, vga connection so I need advice on what will be my best option maybe I should get a cable with a USB receiver for an wireless keyboard any inputs are welcomed thanks.
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Apple's Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse 2 work both flawlessly. I only wish my Dex cable was longer, to truly be able to have the TV far from me...

xonyl said:
Apple's Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse 2 work both flawlessly. I only wish my Dex cable was longer, to truly be able to have the TV far from me...
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Are you talking about the HDMI cable? HDMI cables are cheap.

mike28 said:
I got mines from Amazon for $15 no issues, got it hook up to a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
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which one did you get for 15 bucks? I got one from ebay for 7 bucks (only the adapter hdmi to usb c) and didn't work at all but maybe is my hdmi cable which is really old

Question Ethernet Hub for Pixel 7 Pro

I have tried 2 different Ethernet adapter/hubs with my Pixel 7 Pro. They are: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LCHDRP9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W52R8KY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details These will not allow the Ethernet tethering setting to activate on the Pixel 7 Pro, although both work instantly with my Samsung. I need one that will put a mouse pointer on the phone's screen and allow the use of a keyboard, and may need power input, unless I can power it with the phone upside down in the pixel stand. If nothing else, a working plain Ethernet adapter, and I will use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Google sells one for their 4k chromecast, but they fail to specify if it will work for Ethernet tethering on the Pixel 7 Pro.

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I have tried 2 different Ethernet adapter/hubs with my Pixel 7 Pro. They are: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LCHDRP9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W52R8KY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details These will not allow the Ethernet tethering setting to activate on the Pixel 7 Pro, although both work instantly with my Samsung. I need one that will put a mouse pointer on the phone's screen and allow the use of a keyboard, and may need power input, unless I can power it with the phone upside down in the pixel stand. If nothing else, a working plain Ethernet adapter, and I will use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Google sells one for their 4k chromecast, but they fail to specify if it will work for Ethernet tethering on the Pixel 7 Pro.
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I haven't been able to get anything to work with stability on either of my two docks so I don't have a large enough selection to make a definitive statement on the support, but the farthest I've gotten is using my dock that has an RTL8153A-4. It will work for a bit, but when pushing enough data it'll end up resetting. Hits up to 400Mbps but then it drops out. That's par for the course with early RTL8153 chips. It's also a terrible dock and the seller has been banned from Amazon for one reason or another, so can add that on too.
On the other hand I have a more modern Yottamaster NVMe dock that I use with my Steam Deck and it works great. Surprisingly, it is almost fully functional on my phone except for display (obviously know why) and Ethernet. It's using the RTL8153B-2, but I can't get any data to pass over it. The r8152 kernel driver reports that it can't load the firmware, because the phone doesn't have any firmware from linux-firmware outside of what is needed for the hardware internally. Both the kernel driver and Ethernet system report when a cable is connected and the carrier is on, but nothing makes it over the cable.
The first dock you linked also has an RTL8153, so at this point I'm guessing newer revision RTL8153 support is just broken on the phones without the ability to load firmware for them. The second dock you linked inspires some confidence that it will have an AX88178 controller in it, but I've looked at docks recently on Amazon and ones that list AX88178/AX88179 are apparently silently subbing them out for the RTL8153 according to reviews. You're going to have to plug it in to your computer to check what the Ethernet controller shows up as.
Best course of action I can see is to either try to find a dock with an AX88178 in it if your second dock actually has an RTL8153 in it, or get an older USB 2.0 RTL8152 adapter since those are more reliable although that restricts you to 10/100.

It's a bit of an older model but I have been using an Aukey CB-C71 with a Pixel 7 Pro and previously Pixel 6 Pro with ethernet, USB-PD, USB keyboard, and USB wireless mouse. I have used USB PD with everything from the original Nexus 6p chargers to various Windows and Mac laptop chargers without issues.

bing321 said:
It's a bit of an older model but I have been using an Aukey CB-C71 with a Pixel 7 Pro and previously Pixel 6 Pro with ethernet, USB-PD, USB keyboard, and USB wireless mouse. I have used USB PD with everything from the original Nexus 6p chargers to various Windows and Mac laptop chargers without issues.
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I'm curious, do you know what chipset the CB-C71 uses? I have another adapter on the way from Amazon, if that doesn't work out I may try the CB-C71 or a device with a similar chipset.

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I'm curious, do you know what chipset the CB-C71 uses? I have another adapter on the way from Amazon, if that doesn't work out I may try the CB-C71 or a device with a similar chipset.
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I really can't say for sure, but this is the output from 'sudo lshw'
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8152 driverversion=v1.12.13 duplex=full firmware=rtl8153b-2 v1 10/23/19 ip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=1Gbit/s

bing321 said:
I really can't say for sure, but this is the output from 'sudo lshw'
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8152 driverversion=v1.12.13 duplex=full firmware=rtl8153b-2 v1 10/23/19 ip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=1Gbit/s
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RTL8153B-2, interesting that it doesn't have any issues.

I found an adapter that works: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGHKLSPG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details It is gigabit, with power port. It works without its power plugged in and the phone upside down on the powered pixel stand. I would still like to buy a real hub with gigabit ethernet for the P7P, if someone finds one.

This Anker one works just fine

schmeggy929 said:
This Anker one works just fine
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That meets most of my specs. The problem is only 4k 30hz HDMI. If I want to use it with a 4k 60hz device that can use the HDMI output, (obviously not the crippled Pixel line) I would be downgrading.