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Does anyone know if the HTC Desire Z support a proper docking station like the Motorola Milestone does?
I've bought some cheapo dock off Amazon, and it charges the phone fine, but there doesn't seem to be a special dock mode like the Milestone had (it used to know it was in the dock by rotating the screen and acting like a Desk Clock). Strangely, the desire Z has a desk clock app, but the app doesn't automatically start, nor does it use landscape mode unless you open the keyboard.
This could either be because its a cheapo dock or the desire Z just lacks the magnetic switch to tell the phone that it's in a dock. Anyone know?
Which dock did you purchase? I haven't been able to find any on Amazon specifically for the Desire Z (tried searching as the G2 also). I have seen a few different ones on Ebay but they all look cheap and are coming from overseas...
It's this one:
w w w . a m a z o n . c o . u k /gp/product/B004AH22NC/ref=oss_product
(sorry, newbies can't post proper links)
It has one captive USB cable that goes to your computer, then a micro-USB socket that connects to your charger. It looks pretty cheap and nasty and doesn't completely surround the side of the Desire Z, so you have to 'aim' it onto the USB connector that sticks out of the base.
It's ok, but not great.
That looks just like the ones that are being sold on Ebay. Price is about the same but they are shipping from Hong Kong...
Tbh, it's a bit rubbish. I just found out that if I have it plugged into both a computer (for syncing) and the charger (for charging when my computer is off at night), it will get confused and won't send any power to the phone (the amber/green LED isn't turned). It also causes my computers bios to hang for 10-15 seconds when it boots.
I wouldn't recommend getting it. Hopefully someone makes a better dock
Thanks for the heads up as I was considering ordering one for myself (would take 2-3 weeks to get here anyhow). I'm sure its only a matter of time until someone makes a more official one for the G2 or the Desire Z.
yesterday i recieved the docking station from Ebay
: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250725370529 :
Quality is awesome, long cable.. fits perfect on my desk.. if you search for a dockingstation i recomen this 1.
Ordered the one in Roachie's post.
Now waiting for it
some pics:
@sergioka: Are you satisfied with build quality and overall impression?
It has a good quality,
but it was a little bit hard to put the device on it, because of the usb connector.
You should put the docking station on a higher place to look on the display, the device looks only to one direction, to the front.
bye,
sergioka
here, with the Zee on it:
added info:
The LEDs are very bright
Got mine today and I'm satisfied with it, too. Looks good, usb fits nicely into the Z, no wiggle or shaking. I just wish stock sense would landscape the home screen without having to open the keyboard.
BlackMountainCow said:
Got mine today and I'm satisfied with it, too. Looks good, usb fits nicely into the Z, no wiggle or shaking. I just wish stock sense would landscape the home screen without having to open the keyboard.
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is there not an option in the setting menu when you click on display
(eg.
Settings>Display>Auto Rotation)
BlackMountainCow said:
Got mine today and I'm satisfied with it, too. Looks good, usb fits nicely into the Z, no wiggle or shaking. I just wish stock sense would landscape the home screen without having to open the keyboard.
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I had the same problem with stock rom. Now, with CM, there's no problem
MacaronyMax said:
is there not an option in the setting menu when you click on display
(eg. Settings>Display>Auto Rotation)
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The option is there, but to no avail. If I uncheck it, Sense won't turn to landscape at all. If I turn to landscape first and then uncheck it, Sense will return to vertical as well. I just don't see why Sense doesn't landscape when all lists, menus and apps do so automatically.
@sergioka A few questions about the dock:
1) I noticed on the back there is a micro USB as well as the USB lead comming out the unit. To charge the G2/DZ can you just plug the USB into the plug adaptor or do you have to use the supplied plug?
2) I noticed the spare battery port on the back, do you have to have a battery in there for the unit to charge or can you leave that unused?
3) Do you have to have the device open with the keyboard on show or will be work in the closed position?
4) And my long shot question, Does it automaticly start the clock app when you plug it in? (I can dream!)
Sorry to ask so many questions, its just I'm after a dock to put beside my bed so that i can use my G2 as my alarm clock etc.
Thanks in advance
Here are my answers
KarlosTheJackal said:
@sergioka A few questions about the dock:
1) I noticed on the back there is a micro USB as well as the USB lead comming out the unit. To charge the G2/DZ can you just plug the USB into the plug adaptor or do you have to use the supplied plug?
1) I only use USB
2) I noticed the spare battery port on the back, do you have to have a battery in there for the unit to charge or can you leave that unused?
2)You can leave it unused
3) Do you have to have the device open with the keyboard on show or will be work in the closed position?
3) You can close it, I only opened it for marketing reasons
4) And my long shot question, Does it automaticly start the clock app when you plug it in? (I can dream!)
4) Hmm, is there a menu where I can config such a thing? At this moment : no
Sorry to ask so many questions, its just I'm after a dock to put beside my bed so that i can use my G2 as my alarm clock etc.
Thanks in advance
No Problem mate! Hope it helps
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sergioka said:
Here are my answers
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Looks like I'm ordering one of these! Thank you so much
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
KarlosTheJackal said:
@sergioka A few questions about the dock:
4) And my long shot question, Does it automaticly start the clock app when you plug it in? (I can dream!)
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I use "Kaloer clock" for this purpose. You can configure it to automatically start upon charge and much more:
does anyone know if the car dock has a port to plug in a charger? im assuming it does but went on motorolas site and dont see anything saying it does. i want the car dock but only if im able to plug it in and allow it to charger while driving.
superhtchd2 said:
does anyone know if the car dock has a port to plug in a charger? im assuming it does but went on motorolas site and dont see anything saying it does. i want the car dock but only if im able to plug it in and allow it to charger while driving.
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It has a 2-usb port plug for your cig lighter slot, and a specialized (meaning don't use it with anything other than the dock) usb cable that plugs into one of those slots and into the dock, and it also has a female 3.5 audio jack to run an audio cable to an input in your car stereo.
Just to confirm with real-world experience, yes it is. I use mine all the time.
I have a Smart Action setup to turn on Bluetooth, GPS and data connection (if turned off) when I dock my phone. My phone charges the entire time, syncs up with the radio in my car via Bluetooth and starts playing music automatically.
does it work well in portrait orientation? my sunglasses are polarized the same as when the q is in landscape orientation.
It works great either way.
Assuming you normally keep the brightness down to save on battery, you can also conveniently bump up the brightness to 100% when docked via the SmartActions. Its actually the only SmartAction I even have setup (I use an app to manage battery because the ability of the SmartActions for that purpose frankly isn't robust enough).
jbyrkit said:
does it work well in portrait orientation? my sunglasses are polarized the same as when the q is in landscape orientation.
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Yes, and as an added bonus it will force Landscape if your phone is locked in Portrait mode.
I personally turn off auto-rotation when I'm just using the phone, but for the dock I only want Landscape. So, all good here.
I know this is probably more for Microsoft Surface Developer Section but seeing how I am still pretty new I don't have enough post to be able to post in that area.
I am mainly curious if anyone knows the pin outs for the Touch/Type Cover connector on the bottom of the tablet and if it uses standard USB or if it is some kind of special propitiatory type connection that would say connect the keyboard membrane to the keyboard controller that may be in the tablet? If it is just a standard USB connection I am thinking about cannibalizing a touch cover to see if I can create a home Grown Dock so to speak for the tablet that would have a USB hub for keyboard and mouse and a USB to Ethernet adapter that works with the tablet. The USB hub will draw power from a modified Power Cord for the tablet IF I can figure out that electrical later on to where it wont fry my tablet or other accessories but first I need to figure out the first part.
TLDR Does anyone know if the touch/type cover user a standard USB protocol and if so what is the pin layout for the connector on the tablet. If anyone can help that would be appreciated.
I just received a surface and they through in 2 type covers. said, "keep it" on a sticky note. I am now working on figuring out what the connectors are. I dont see the point of having 6 connectors, so I think that some may be ground or false. I will open up one of the keyboards to see what ships they are connecting to. i would think it has to be usb. I know that the 6th pin, that is 6th from the left pin, is 1.8v when grounded. I am guessing that the voltage goes up once the surface detects the attached keyboard. I will write back, let me know if you have figured anything else out. seems like we are hte only people on the internet who even care at this point. and microsoft is literally giving away surface computers.
Greg00135 said:
I know this is probably more for Microsoft Surface Developer Section but seeing how I am still pretty new I don't have enough post to be able to post in that area.
I am mainly curious if anyone knows the pin outs for the Touch/Type Cover connector on the bottom of the tablet and if it uses standard USB or if it is some kind of special propitiatory type connection that would say connect the keyboard membrane to the keyboard controller that may be in the tablet? If it is just a standard USB connection I am thinking about cannibalizing a touch cover to see if I can create a home Grown Dock so to speak for the tablet that would have a USB hub for keyboard and mouse and a USB to Ethernet adapter that works with the tablet. The USB hub will draw power from a modified Power Cord for the tablet IF I can figure out that electrical later on to where it wont fry my tablet or other accessories but first I need to figure out the first part.
TLDR Does anyone know if the touch/type cover user a standard USB protocol and if so what is the pin layout for the connector on the tablet. If anyone can help that would be appreciated.
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any progress?
i already build a power wire, with a 5,5mm plug to connect it to my Intocircuit PC26000 for more juice on the go, and for a second charger.
you can see the pinouts of the power plug in the attatched pic.
let me know if you got any results for the cover connector so far - if its USB, i will implement my UMTS stick into a cover
Cheers!
just got pictures of the cover connector, see attatchment.
in fact all the 6 pins are connected. USB 2.0 would take 4 of them.
my guess is that one of them could be a switch, to turn the device & keyboard on and off.
any progress
Curious if anyone has made any progress on decoding the pinout, figuring out if it's usb or not?
i didn't do any further research - but it guess it's usb, or at least kind of... as it shows up as USB device in the device manager...
tfBullet said:
just got pictures of the cover connector, see attatchment.
in fact all the 6 pins are connected. USB 2.0 would take 4 of them.
my guess is that one of them could be a switch, to turn the device & keyboard on and off.
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Judging by the connector and the fact that the covers are USB-based and can be used reversed, the pinout makes perfect sense. The likely possibility for the pinout is as follows:
Power Cover connector (Using pin labels in picture)
1/10 = Power cover +ve
2/9 = Power cover Ground
Touch/Type connector (Using pin labels in picture)
3 = +ve
4 = Ground
5/6 = Data +ve or -ve (reversible internally)
7/8 = Attachment direction detect
Pins on Touch/Type cover itself (Pinout from left [1] to right [6])
1/6 = +ve
2/5 = Ground
3/4 = Data +ve or -ve (reversible internally)
As to if the USB data pairs are swapped on the SP or the Cover, we cannot know without more information. Depending on the voltage supplied or the presence of unauthorised hardware detection (e.g. the ID chip in Apple earphones, I doubt it), custom USB devices should be fairly trivial (electrically).
I know this is an old thread but has anyone made any further progress on this? If not, I'm considering experimenting myself with a spare touch cover and a raspberry pi
geronphillips said:
I know this is an old thread but has anyone made any further progress on this? If not, I'm considering experimenting myself with a spare touch cover and a raspberry pi
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Nope, im sorry, i didn't make further progress on this, exept what i already posted.. it is a USB connection, you can easily verify that yourself by looking at the Touch/type-cover in the device-manager...
I guess you can easily connect other USB devices if you build yourself an adapter..
but there could also be some kind of verification, if so then its most likely software based, if you hit a barrier, try reverseing the type-cover driver, you might find something there...
One additional info: the big outer nipples can be used to charge the device.
Peace
If I were to leverage the bottom grooves for charging, can you tell me which pin is which? +/-
tfBullet said:
Nope, im sorry, i didn't make further progress on this, exept what i already posted.. it is a USB connection, you can easily verify that yourself by looking at the Touch/type-cover in the device-manager...
I guess you can easily connect other USB devices if you build yourself an adapter..
but there could also be some kind of verification, if so then its most likely software based, if you hit a barrier, try reverseing the type-cover driver, you might find something there...
One additional info: the big outer nipples can be used to charge the device.
Peace
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Hi tfBullet,
When you say "the big outer nipples can be used to charge the devices" are you referring to these...
Power Cover connector (Using pin labels in picture)
1/10 = Power cover +ve
2/9 = Power cover Ground
Any new discovery?
Any new discovery?
will the power output still be live, if the data signals are not shorted? e.g: IOS devices
Can we just connect the keyboard via usb to a windows pc?
I don't think this is true USB, as there is no 5 volts anywhere on the connector, only 3.3 volts.. It may be USB, but needing to be level-shifted before you can use it. It may be potentially a way to get another USB port on the damn thing. Why did they think one USB port is enough? I have been trying to boot it from flash drive, but need keyboard as well, but the USB will not boot with a hub connected. Grrrrr.
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I don't think this is true USB, as there is no 5 volts anywhere on the connector, only 3.3 volts.. It may be USB, but needing to be level-shifted before you can use it. It may be potentially a way to get another USB port on the damn thing. Why did they think one USB port is enough? I have been trying to boot it from flash drive, but need keyboard as well, but the USB will not boot with a hub connected. Grrrrr.
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Why not booting on a flash drive and use the usb for keyboard???
There's someone here who's made some progress...
edwardsh.in/keyboard%20cover/2015/08/13/applying-logic-to-the-surface-touch-cover
i want to connect the keyboard itself to other devices
Hey guys
Good thread going on , i would like to see if any one of you ever thought about to use keyboard itself not the port , for some reasons I would like to use the keyboard on other devices (i mean kinda convert the pins to a USB port and use it on other pcs or what i really desire about is using it on Xbox) i want to see if any of you have any ideas or information about this , i mean is this even possible ? I've read the whole replies and most of them were about the port on surface and yeah its really cool , but i want to see if its possible to do , cause if its possible then it would be a lot easier than the port on the surface
Thanks
Ferrybigger said:
Hey guys
Good thread going on , i would like to see if any one of you ever thought about to use keyboard itself not the port , for some reasons I would like to use the keyboard on other devices (i mean kinda convert the pins to a USB port and use it on other pcs or what i really desire about is using it on Xbox) i want to see if any of you have any ideas or information about this , i mean is this even possible ? I've read the whole replies and most of them were about the port on surface and yeah its really cool , but i want to see if its possible to do , cause if its possible then it would be a lot easier than the port on the surface
Thanks
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Well, take a look at the link Neakmenter posted, the guy there analyzed the communication, turns out it's no standard USB, it's proprietary.. Which means, there is no easy way of using this keyboard anywhere else than the surface... You would need some kind of microcontroller which connects to the keyboard, interprets it's signals, and relays them as Standart HID signals to a USB port..
The connector alone is a problem as well, you'd need to 3D print a connector or something like that, it's just not worth the effort i guess [emoji2371]
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Hey all
My Atrix 2 was runover by a car when it fell from my pocket into a parking lot. The digitizer cracked. When I try to turn on the phone, the LED light lights up and even the buttons light up but nothing comes up on the screen, nor does it make any sound. I tried calling my phone but it doesn't ring.
1) Is there any chance that the phone can be revived by changing the digitizer & screen?
2) How can I test if the rest of the phone is working?
3) I have never used the HDMI out of the phone. I'm thinking of ordering an hdmi cable to test it. But I'm not sure if upon connecting the hdmi cable the android OS asks for some settings to be changed to enable the hdmi output from software. Does it? Because if it does, then testing with the hdmi would be pointless as I cannot see and touch the screen to change any hdmi settings.
The phone is rooted and running stock AT&T ICS 4.04 ROM.
Thanks.
MenTaLLyMenTaL said:
Hey all
My Atrix 2 was runover by a car when it fell from my pocket into a parking lot. The digitizer cracked. When I try to turn on the phone, the LED light lights up and even the buttons light up but nothing comes up on the screen, nor does it make any sound. I tried calling my phone but it doesn't ring.
1) Is there any chance that the phone can be revived by changing the digitizer & screen?
2) How can I test if the rest of the phone is working?
3) I have never used the HDMI out of the phone. I'm thinking of ordering an hdmi cable to test it. But I'm not sure if upon connecting the hdmi cable the android OS asks for some settings to be changed to enable the hdmi output from software. Does it? Because if it does, then testing with the hdmi would be pointless as I cannot see and touch the screen to change any hdmi settings.
The phone is rooted and running stock AT&T ICS 4.04 ROM.
Thanks.
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Hdmi will launch automatically if you are on stock firmware.............But i suggest you show your Phone to the service center coz the car
Running over it might have cracked other key components safer to send it to service center if your in warranty......
Or u can try replacing the digitizer just check out this video..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbj5vYkjMBA
I'm pretty sure this is going to be a hardware problem, but I wanted to see if anyone has experienced anything similar. Yesterday, without any reason, the keyboard on my dock stopped working. The touchpad, USB port, card reader, and charging port all still work, but nothing is coming from the keyboard. Even the caps lock key is not lighting up when I press it. I'm hoping I can crack it open and it'll be a simple repair, but I wanted to know if anyone else had experienced this.
Ribbon Cable
I solved my own problem. I don't have a star driver with me (on the road for work), so I didn't think I would be able to open the dock until I got home. However, I found I was able to open the top edge sufficiently to see that the ribbon cable from the keyboard was completely detached. The retainer was locked, so I'm wondering if it came like that from the factory and just finally came loose after two years.