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Completely new to Android OS and need some tips

I am brand new to the Android OS and I heard from some friends that rooting is very similar to "jailbreaking" on the iPhone in the sense that you gain a lot of extra features and are able to sideload apps, etc.
I have a few questions before I do my root. Also, I do not want to install Android 2.3 or any other OS on my phone. I want to keep the stock OS, except I want my phone to be rooted (if that works). The guide my friends showed me was this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
1. If I root my phone and then install an HTC or AT&T update, does my root go away (HTC Inspire 4G locked to AT&T).
2. Can I remove the AT&T lock so I can use my phone in Europe if I root?
3. I don't want to brick my phone, so is there anyway to back it up beforehand?
Thanks for the help!

1. It won't let you update so your good.
2. Yes you can it unlocks the phone.
3. Yes its called a Nandroid
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XAviierG said:
1. It won't let you update so your good.
2. Yes you can it unlocks the phone.
3. Yes its called a Nandroid
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Also, is the thread I posted the best method for rooting as of right now, or is there a better one?

ComradeNF said:
Also, is the thread I posted the best method for rooting as of right now, or is there a better one?
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That's how I rooted mines. Very simple
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Just remember backups are your friends
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Just remember backups are your friends
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+1! I learned this the hard way haha.....I went flash crazy once with mods, and one of them went wrong. I hadn't made a backup in almost a week, so I had a lot of work to do to get everything back the way I like it. Now, I religiously do a backup before doing any mod, everytime . Time consuming, yes, but it'll save you A LOT of time if something goes wrong.

yep very true a back up just saved my butt yesterday

Back up is a must..

I hate when I get bricked without a backup....I have to reinstall the rom and set up everything again..
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words can't explain how many times I've been saved with my backup when messng with different flashes, haha. Very important.
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1- rooting is the hardest /most dangerous part(not that its dangerous, but its more dangerous than flashing a rom/kernel simply cause your flashing a radio). Flashing a rom is simple/safe. After you root don't not flash a rom cause you think its dangerous or you'll brick your phone-you wont.
2- I haven't made a nandroid backup ever. If you soft brick your phone, knowing adb is way more important than a backup. I've bricked my phone probably more than everybody in this thread x50, adb saves me everytime. Even if the computer wont see your phone when it boots, 99.9% of the time it will see it when in recovery, so this is what will really save you. Reboot the phone to recovery, use adb to fix whatever broke from the mod/whatever you just did.
(I'm not saying don't make backups, I'm saying learn adb - it can more likely save your ass than anything. Learn it)

di11igaf said:
1- rooting is the hardest /most dangerous part(not that its dangerous, but its more dangerous than flashing a rom/radio simply cause your flashing a radio). Flashing a rom is simple/safe. After you root don't not flash a rom cause you think its dangerous or you'll brick your phone-you wont.
2- I haven't made a nandroid backup ever. If you soft brick your phone, knowing adb is way more important than a backup. I've bricked my phone probably more than everybody in this thread x50, adb saves me everytime. Even if the computer wont see your phone when it boots, 99.9% of the time it will see it when in recovery, so this is what will really save you. Reboot the phone to recovery, use adb to fix whatever broke from the mod/whatever you just did.
(I'm not saying don't make backups, I'm saying learn adb - it can more likely save your ass than anything. Learn it)
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Good advice....I need to take the time to do that.....
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[Q] 2 Inspire Questions.

Ok so i have the htc inspire and i tried to root it today, which didnt work out lol... but anywase whenever i try to play music or do anything that involves sound on the phone it dosnt work? i have a feeling that it may be a kernel issue but im not sure... my kernel is 2.6.32.2d now i dont know what the stock kernal is but im pretty sure this isnt it, so if you guys know anything about this or what has happened to my phone please tell me... thanks

It might help if you state what method you used to try to root, how far you got, and why it failed.
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It sounds like you are still on the downgraded Rom which is a desire hd rom.
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yeah i believe that i am because it says that im on android 2.2 but i know that i should be on 2.2.1 how would i be able to go back to my normal rom?

gmurphy0487 said:
It sounds like you are still on the downgraded Rom which is a desire hd rom.
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yeah i believe that i am because it says that im on android 2.2 but i know that i should be on 2.2.1 how would i be able to go back to my normal rom?

bostonsboy97 said:
yeah i believe that i am because it says that im on android 2.2 but i know that i should be on 2.2.1 how would i be able to go back to my normal rom?
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You need to elaborate a little more if you want some assistance.
Do you have s-Off?
What is your baseband number? That will indicate what radio you have and will give others an idea of where in the process you are.
Assuming you made it far enough in the process to get s-Off, you can just flash the ota stock ROM by attn1, which will have the OTA radio in it, if it turns out you are on the downgraded ROM/radio.

If you have anything other than the stock kernel/ROM on your phone, then the rooting was at least partially successful. You probably just need to get clockworkmod recovery installed correctly so you can install custom roms.

Scott_S said:
You need to elaborate a little more if you want some assistance.
Do you have s-Off?
What is your baseband number? That will indicate what radio you have and will give others an idea of where in the process you are.
Assuming you made it far enough in the process to get s-Off, you can just flash the ota stock ROM by attn1, which will have the OTA radio in it, if it turns out you are on the downgraded ROM/radio.
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my baseband number is 12.28b.60.140eu_26.03.02.26_m and to tell you the truth i have no clue what s- is ill try to look through the settings to see if thats it

bostonsboy97 said:
my baseband number is 12.28b.60.140eu_26.03.02.26_m and to tell you the truth i have no clue what s- is ill try to look through the settings to see if thats it
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Yup, that looks like the downgraded radio the hack kit leaves you with.
S-Off basically means you can flash stuff. "Security off"
So as Gene said, you're partially through the process. You just need to get a good ROM/radio on.

bostonsboy97 said:
Ok so i have the htc inspire and i tried to root it today, which didnt work out lol... but anywase whenever i try to play music or do anything that involves sound on the phone it dosnt work? i have a feeling that it may be a kernel issue but im not sure... my kernel is 2.6.32.2d now i dont know what the stock kernal is but im pretty sure this isnt it, so if you guys know anything about this or what has happened to my phone please tell me... thanks
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You have an incorrect root, that happened to me. You need finish all the steps, when i did the root guide the software failed and the sound dissapeared. After push the software (to get root) and the root was successful, i recovered the sound.

man666 said:
You have an incorrect root, that happened to me. You need finish all the steps, when i did the root guide the software failed and the sound dissapeared. After push the software (to get root) and the root was successful, i recovered the sound.
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ok man i just want to get my phone back to stock... is there a way that i could just do a FULL wipe of the device? ive tried doing it through the hboot way and going through the settings and doing the restore but both were unsuccesful

Just flash it eith rom i had same problem i use attn1 method i flashed with rom coredroid and all is fine
htc desire hd/inspire

Now that you are basically rooted there is not necessarily an easy way to get back to plain stock.
It can take a while for the average user I believe using the s on tool... but considering I do not have all of the info I will let someone else answer your question in full.
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bostonsboy97 said:
ok man i just want to get my phone back to stock... is there a way that i could just do a FULL wipe of the device? ive tried doing it through the hboot way and going through the settings and doing the restore but both were unsuccesful
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Go back to h boot, if it says "Ship s-off on the very top of the screen you should be all set. Make sure clockworkmod is installed. if not download rom manager from market and flash cwm through rom manager. Next go to the development form and find attn1's stock OTA update with radio. Download the file to your computer, place it on the root of your sd card. Make sure the file is named PD98IMG.zip, turn off phone and boot into h boot, when it says apply update? Press vol up and watch the magic happen. Also make sure there is no other files named PD98IMG.zip on your sd card as this will cause trouble. You will still be rooted with s-off but that's ok, I mean your were already trying to root, just cause you lost sound doesn't mean you should be afraid of rooting. Once you fix your problem and get a good handle on things, you'll be in love!
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I promisse your wife wont like your phone no more after you get new rom
htc desire hd/inspire

nismax said:
I promisse your wife wont like your phone no more after you get new rom
htc desire hd/inspire
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Isn't that the truth, my wife hates it even if I get a text lol. "your always on that damn thing"
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bostonsboy97 said:
ok man i just want to get my phone back to stock... is there a way that i could just do a FULL wipe of the device? ive tried doing it through the hboot way and going through the settings and doing the restore but both were unsuccesful
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No, you can not. Because the radio isn't updated, you have the half of the steps.
You need finish all the steps of the root guide to have root and the sound working.

Haha I've flashed just about every Rom here and my wife says you keep doing that and your gonna break it and your not getting another phone can't you just leave it alone
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Allright guys im all set now. my phone had s- on and it was on android 2.2 so i went to at&t and the guy played around with it for a few then said "your phones gay, ill just switch it" lol so problem is solved thanks for all trying to help

[Q] (Help!) Hard bricked skyrocket?

Hey guys,
So I have the Galaxy S2 Skyrocket with AT&T and I have it rooted etc. Today I tried flashing the MIUI rom, but was unsuccessful due to a message saying "Installation aborted". So I did as I read to do and wiped cache, Delvik or w/e, and then I reformatted the SDcard to redownload the ROM, however when I rebooted the next time it did not boot back up. Now I have the phone completely dead it would seem, I have tried the button combinations, etc to no avail.
What happened and is there anything I can do?
How can my phone be bricked if I never got to install a new ROM? I can't be without it for too long so any answers would be appreciated
Thanks,
Smernst

When you say button combinations are you saying you tried to get into download mode?
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Sheolrock said:
When you say button combinations are you saying you tried to get into download mode?
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Yes, exactly that

Smernst said:
Yes, exactly that
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Sometimes download mode can work even if the screen isn't turning on. You should follow the instructions for download mode and see if Odin recognizes the phone.
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Well there are symptoms of Brick See below and find ur category!!!!
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Brick → When used in reference to consumer electronics, "brick" describes a device that cannot function in any capacity (such as a device with damaged firmware). This usage derives from the fact that some electronic devices (and their detachable power supplies) are vaguely brick-shaped, and so those which do not function are useful only as actual bricks. The term can also be used as a verb. For example, "I bricked my phone when I tried to modify its firmware.
Hard Brick → When your phone does not turn on at all. When you can’t get in to CWR/CWM Or Stock recovery. You are basically screwed. If its hard brick Here is thread that will help you!!!
Soft Brick → When your phone bootloops. When you can get into CWR/CWM. When You can use jigtag to get into download mode.
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Smernst said:
Yes, exactly that
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appdroid said:
Well there are symptoms of Brick See below and find ur category!!!!
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UPDATE:
I just went in to the AT&T store and they are sending me a new phone tonight and it should be here tomorrow!
Now, does anyone have a guide to recommend for getting, say, MIUI onto the Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket? I don't know enough about the versions, mp5, etc to do it alone, and a safe guide would really help me
Thanks

MIUI rite now is not daily driver has lots of bugs and Here is link scroll down it will give you step by step instructions.
Smernst said:
UPDATE:
I just went in to the AT&T store and they are sending me a new phone tonight and it should be here tomorrow!
Now, does anyone have a guide to recommend for getting, say, MIUI onto the Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket? I don't know enough about the versions, mp5, etc to do it alone, and a safe guide would really help me
Thanks
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Got it, thanks
Also, if my phone is truly hard-bricked the AT&T guys that I return it to will not be able to tell that it is rooted will they?
Thanks

No att ppl are dumb and they can't even turn on the phone so they won't be able to say that it was rooted. When they ask you anything about rooting just pretend like you don't know what they are talking about.
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Got it, thanks
Also, if my phone is truly hard-bricked the AT&T guys that I return it to will not be able to tell that it is rooted will they?
Thanks
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appdroid said:
No att ppl are dumb and they can't even turn on the phone so they won't be able to say that it was rooted. When they ask you anything about rooting just pretend like you don't know what they are talking about.
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Okay sweet thank you for all the help!
See you around
Smernst

Hope next phone doesn't give you any grief.
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Bricked HTC ONE X AT&T

I checked all the other bricked threads and none have the same problem as me.
My HTC ONE X will not boot and or charge. I cannot get access to the bootloader or recovery.
My HTC ONE X had it's bootloader unlocked via the rogers htc-dev method. I also installed clockwork recovery. It is rooted also but you prob figured that already...
I pulled a bonehead move by flashing the MIUI rom the international one x by changing the update script to flash onto my phone. After it flashed it looked like it worked. When I left recovery and shut the phone off it would not turn back on.
I called AT&T they said they will switch it for me when they get a shipment but I want to keep this phone because the boatloader is unlocked and they might patch the rogers method.
Thanks in advanced.
P.S. I know how to use adb and other tools such as RUU and they did not work.

Have you tried holding the power button for 10 seconds to reset it? You should see the 3 lights below flashing.

Ouch.... Another loss for htc sales
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you cant get to hboot? 0.o

First of all, you should be able to get to H-Boot by holding volume down when turning it on.
Second of all, this is why they lock the bootloader in the first place.
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equlizer said:
Have you tried holding the power button for 10 seconds to reset it? You should see the 3 lights below flashing.
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No nothing happens even with the charging adapter plugged in.
kevina90 said:
you cant get to hboot? 0.o
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Nope

sassafras_ said:
First of all, you should be able to get to H-Boot by holding volume down when turning it on.
Second of all, this is why they lock the bootloader in the first place.
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H-Boot key combo is not working.
I have been flashing roms since the samsung moment, I built and modified roms on my EVO and ported roms from other phones to the EVO. I always had recovery to fall back onto to get my phone booting again. Even when I had the Xperia Play that required a PC to boot recovery I was still able to get the phone to work. This phone is strange that is will not even turn onto H-boot/Bootloader.

jfn0802 said:
H-Boot key combo is not working.
I have been flashing roms since the samsung moment, I built and modified roms on my EVO and ported roms from other phones to the EVO. I always had recovery to fall back onto to get my phone booting again. Even when I had the Xperia Play that required a PC to boot recovery I was still able to get the phone to work. This phone is strange that is will not even turn onto H-boot/Bootloader.
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I like to play with my phones and this one is so finicky I'm scared to do too much.
I bricked one myself.

gunnyman said:
I like to play with my phones and this one is so finicky I'm scared to do too much.
I bricked one myself.
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Im glad I have my iPhone to fall back on but it is really annoying that I cannot even get the bootloader to load. I only had it 3 days and already broke it.
Thank God the dude at AT&T cannot get into the bootloader also to see that is was tampered with so they are giving me a replacement.

And people wonder why at&t locks their phones down. I'm guessing you just told them "my phone broke...I have no idea what happened". Just lovely.
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jfn0802 said:
Im glad I have my iPhone to fall back on but it is really annoying that I cannot even get the bootloader to load. I only had it 3 days and already broke it.
Thank God the dude at AT&T cannot get into the bootloader also to see that is was tampered with so they are giving me a replacement.
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Where do they have them in stock? I need to replace mine (screen issue) and can't find any around here.

powerwagon said:
And people wonder why at&t locks their phones down. I'm guessing you just told them "my phone broke...I have no idea what happened". Just lovely.
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powerwagon said:
And people wonder why at&t locks their phones down. I'm guessing you just told them "my phone broke...I have no idea what happened". Just lovely.
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Honestly, not trying to call you stupid or something, but did you really think it was going to run on this phone when it was meant for another one? The GPU and CPU are completely different...
Anyway, I'm glad AT&T is replacing it for you. Hopefully if someone else bricks the same way then they will be able to get a replacement as well.

so you are smart enough to use adb, an RUU, unlock your bootloader, root, flash roms.......but you aren't smart enough to see the hundreds of posts saying that the international roms don't work on our phones??

lol

Coming from a phone that is virtually unbrickable (Captivate), I'm quite curious about how you managed to get it into this state. What exactly did you flash? Did the package contain both the system image and bootloaders for the tegra3 one x?

Just pull the batte..... oh

jmattp said:
Just pull the batte..... oh
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+1 for when I drowned my first one and it was stuck in a boot loop. I know it could have been saved if the battery would have been taken out.
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modest_mandroid said:
Coming from a phone that is virtually unbrickable (Captivate), I'm quite curious about how you managed to get it into this state. What exactly did you flash? Did the package contain both the system image and bootloaders for the tegra3 one x?
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My EVO was unbrickable too, I flashed a rom that was designed for the international version. It only contained system and other basic rom stuff, nothing that was crazy.

No idea why you wouldn't be able to boot into recovery then. I hope all HTC handsets aren't like this..
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[Q] Probably the noobest of noob questions...

I have an Inspire 4g, and I want to get Jellytime R29 on my phone, but every link I find to root my phone, is either dead, or incomprehensible.
Where do I root, how and how can I get Jellytime?
I suck, and am kind of dumb, I know. I am sorry.

I had a Samsung Infuse before, and I just used a one click root thing, and a loader to load Heimdall Gingerbread on it. Is there anything like that for the Inspire 4g? I see an Ace Hack kit, but it says taht I have to be on a certain release or something...I have no idea. :/

Yes, use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit. More detailed instructions are in the PDF in post #7 in the Ace Think Tank thread linked in my signature.

bananagranola said:
Yes, use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit. More detailed instructions are in the PDF in post #7 in the Ace Think Tank thread linked in my signature.
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I was afraid it was going to be more difficult than my infuse haha. Well, a little work is okay to get JB or ICS instead of this terrible Gingerbread that I've been stuck on for ages.

Dr_Derpy said:
I was afraid it was going to be more difficult than my infuse haha. Well, a little work is okay to get JB or ICS instead of this terrible Gingerbread that I've been stuck on for ages.
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As long as you make sure to read the manual thoroughly its not too difficult.

bananagranola said:
As long as you make sure to read the manual thoroughly its not too difficult.
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Of course. I am trying to factory reset my phone, but the option is not even present. I am under settings, privacy and there is no "factory reset phone", just "Display message text" "Backup my settings" and "Automatic restore" (Both of those last two are only check boxes, not actual commands)
Got it

Dr_Derpy said:
I was afraid it was going to be more difficult than my infuse haha. Well, a little work is okay to get JB or ICS instead of this terrible Gingerbread that I've been stuck on for ages.
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Stock gingerbread is terrible, the custom gingerbread roms are quite nice
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Hm well I tried running it, but it said I needed to downgrade. So, I factory reset my phone and tried running the AAHK and it seemed to have worked, until the end when it said that it failed.
Now, I am trying to just get gingerbread back, and apparently I can't?? Argh. When I rooted my Infuse 4g from Samsung, it was pretty simple. A couple of one-click things and I was done. This is the complete opposite for this HTC phone.
I am kind of out of it from my meds (had surgery yesterday) and am finding this whole damn thing to be difficult to understand. :/
For waht it's worth, I am on Froyo 2.3 and build 3.20.502.52

Dr_Derpy said:
Hm well I tried running it, but it said I needed to downgrade. So, I factory reset my phone and tried running the AAHK and it seemed to have worked, until the end when it said that it failed.
Now, I am trying to just get gingerbread back, and apparently I can't?? Argh. When I rooted my Infuse 4g from Samsung, it was pretty simple. A couple of one-click things and I was done. This is the complete opposite for this HTC phone.
I am kind of out of it from my meds (had surgery yesterday) and am finding this whole damn thing to be difficult to understand. :/
For waht it's worth, I am on Froyo 2.3 and build 3.20.502.52
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Does this apply to you? http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88

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Does this apply to you? http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88
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Yes but this:
High Level Steps (Do NOT ask me to explain each one – it ain’t gonna happen):
Unlock the bootloader using the HTC DEV bootloader unlock process.
Download att-ace-30-isboot.zip and unzip it (don’t forget to check MD5)
fastboot flash boot boot.img
relock bootloader
Optional: flash/install cwm and back up
Run the newest Hack Kit (now updated for use with this IS Boot)
makes absolutely no sense to me. Again, as stated in my original post, I am pretty dumb. D:

This is as easy as one could explain it. Here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30828287
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Gizmoe said:
This is as easy as one could explain it. Here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30828287
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If it's not one thing, it's another. I can at least follow and understand these directions, but I cannot stay logged in to HTCDev. :/ I made a new account, tried logging in with the right password, and it was incorrect. I power cycled my router/modem, I tried going icognito in case there were some funny somethings going on, I tried even using IE (ew) and that didn't work. I can't log in, and even made a second account, nope.
BAH.
I think I am just destined to not get this done. I was going to just buy a nexus 4, but of course they are sold out, so I wanted to just put a JB rom on my infuse to hold me over for now.

I am still trying to get into the HTCDev bootloader, but I am unable to get logged in.
I tried contacting them through their form last night but have not heard anything back. I did some googling and did not find an answer, but I do see that this is a common issue with the site. Anyone on here have a fix for being unable to log in to HTCDev? Thank you.

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I am still trying to get into the HTCDev bootloader, but I am unable to get logged in.
I tried contacting them through their form last night but have not heard anything back. I did some googling and did not find an answer, but I do see that this is a common issue with the site. Anyone on here have a fix for being unable to log in to HTCDev? Thank you.
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Have you tried using a different browser?
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Yes, I have. I am using Chrome, but tried using IE and even Firefox, both yielded same results. I even tried to use my phone itself to log in just to see if it'd work, and through Dolphin Browser and stock Browser, it did not work.

Dr_Derpy said:
Yes, I have. I am using Chrome, but tried using IE and even Firefox, both yielded same results. I even tried to use my phone itself to log in just to see if it'd work, and through Dolphin Browser and stock Browser, it did not work.
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Yeah that's strange. Maybe that part of their site is down. I would just wait for them to contact you. You could also try turning off your firewall and windows defender, possibly any anti virus as well.
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Gizmoe said:
Yeah that's strange. Maybe that part of their site is down. I would just wait for them to contact you. You could also try turning off your firewall and windows defender, possibly any anti virus as well.
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I'm not using defender, but I turned off my AV and it made no difference. I even tried to delete my cache/cookies and it didn't work. Well, dang.