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[Q] Can Inspire 4G radio be altered by flashing a new ROM?

Hi all
Just a quick question about the radio and flashing.
I understand that when a device is flashed to a custom ROM, that a radio is cooked in. (am I correct?)
Now my situation is this. I live in Australia, and am thinking of purchasing a 2nd hand Inspire 4G (AT&T) from the US, but from my research, due to the Inspire's (from AT&T) frequencies being 850/1900, this causes a small problem in Australia, where only telstra's NextG network operates on this band.
So in effect, I would be limited to NextG if I had this phone in Australia. the other major carrier here (optus) uses 900/2100.
Not a biggie right now as I use telstra nextg, but I may want to change.
So, question would be, when a phone is flashed, can I change the radio via the ROM, or is the frequencies a phone uses controlled by hardware?
thanks.

It's hardware mate.
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jbizz said:
It's hardware mate.
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thanks mate.
now to decide if its worth it.....can get one pretty cheap compared to here in Australia.

Check out tmobile I don't recall the bands they use but they sell the desire HD which is the Inspire 4G for them.
Edit: http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs
Looks like it is 900/2100
So now the question is, what provider will you stick to in Australia
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ajdrausal said:
Check out tmobile I don't recall the bands they use but they sell the desire HD which is the Inspire 4G for them.
Edit: http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs
Looks like it is 900/2100
So now the question is, what provider will you stick to in Australia
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Yeah its a tough decision ...I'm going to be moving soon to study, and where I'm going both carriers are good, but telstra is prob the dearest. Where I currently live needs telstra and I get a sim card through work (I use my own phone though)
So I basically need a 850 phone for 3 months then I can use whatever .......

I just bought one and I am on Telstra. I also have a desire hd. Inspire in my opinion is the best choice.
Inspire can still run on Optus. My missus uses it occasionally with no issues.
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For future reference please ask questions in the Q and A section. Let's leave the Dev section for the devs and their roms.
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whatta moron

bdpyo said:
whatta moron
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Well name calling is not nice.
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Sensation VS Amaze

I had an HTC Amaze for about a week and then my wife wanted a smart phone too so I sold it to buy two HTC sensations. The only problem I am having now is that my service where I work is a lot worse with the sensation. I don't know if it is just the phone I have or if it would be the same with any sensation. I found a cheaper HTC Amaze on a craigslist type site here in salt lake and I am thinking of buying it, but I wanted some of your opinions. Should I try to root my sensation and see if with a different radio I get better service or should I buy the HTC Amaze. I have rooted phones before but then I become a flashaholic and I spend too much time on my phone. I like the size of the Sensation but if I don't want to root again would the Amaze be worth the extra hundred I would have to spend over the price I can sale my Sensation for? Your opions and thoughts would be very helpfull.
Thanks
Eddy

Sorry I probably should have posted this in Q&A.

It's. Hard to say because I have nevee used an Amaze and I haven't hhave any issues with my Sensation reception either, someone that have used both might be able to give you their insight.
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Try another radio, I've heard that can help if you have reception issues.
Personally, I would not change due to reception issues. You are not at work 24/7...
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depends on what phone you like better, i think u miss your old amaze lol
youve got nothing to lose just rooting and flashing another radio really

I don't think sensation is better than Amaze. Everthing is the same but Amaze hasa much much better camera => thumb up

amaze has more ram as well

You need to make sure your RIL file matches the radio you are using.With a matched RIL i get HSDPA signal at hom, without it i barely get EDGE.
go to Settings>About Phone>More>Baseband version (radio)
Then get the matching RIL HERE

Well I think that sensation wins
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The amaze has dual radios so it takes two connections at once resulting in a faster speed

i would have to say the amaze since i did experience some lag on the sensation when i had one.

Dark lord me said:
The amaze has dual radios so it takes two connections at once resulting in a faster speed
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T-Mobile only uses one hspa+ is still 3g. Only wimax and lte have two radios.
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Killbynature said:
T-Mobile only uses one hspa+ is still 3g. Only wimax and lte have two radios.
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Wrong, on both points.
T-Mobile uses dual channel HSPA+, which is essentially 2 21mbps radios slapped together.
And wimax does need dual radios, but LTE only needs 2 on Verizon. On AT&T, it'll all in one radio.
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Croandroid1996 said:
Well I think that sensation wins
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+1 The S4G has been rocken with all the great rom development on xda!

galaxys said:
+1 The S4G has been rocken with all the great rom development on xda!
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I thought croandroid was an idiot until this post. It really is all about the dev community. Good call.

The Sensation has AMAZING dev support. Has some REALLY talented folks cooking and coding for it, and in general is a great device.
I own a Sensation and my wife owns an Amaze....
I have had LOTS of problems with my sensation though, I've been through 3 sensations through tmobile, and even sent one to HTC to have it looked at. Phone has never been right for me.
Tmo has just issued me a replacement, it will be here monday, they are sending me an Amaze, not nearly the dev support for that phone, but at least i'll be able to have a running phone and able to make calls.

germz1986 said:
The Sensation has AMAZING dev support. Has some REALLY talented folks cooking and coding for it, and in general is a great device.
I own a Sensation and my wife owns an Amaze....
I have had LOTS of problems with my sensation though, I've been through 3 sensations through tmobile, and even sent one to HTC to have it looked at. Phone has never been right for me.
Tmo has just issued me a replacement, it will be here monday, they are sending me an Amaze, not nearly the dev support for that phone, but at least i'll be able to have a running phone and able to make calls.
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I went through the same thing with my g2x. When it worked it worked great. I ended up swapping it for the gs2 and its amazing. My gf still has her g2x we got at the same time and it random reboots.

Longcat14 said:
Wrong, on both points.
T-Mobile uses dual channel HSPA+, which is essentially 2 21mbps radios slapped together.
And wimax does need dual radios, but LTE only needs 2 on Verizon. On AT&T, it'll all in one radio.
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Combing two points is a dual cell. Which is one radio capable of dual channels. Other devices still get affected by the network. None of the other non lte or wimax devices improve non lte and wimax devices. Which are separate radios. Two radios slap together is still one radio.
I'm just wondering how at&t can put lte on one radio when a bigger company namely Verizon didn't do it either. T-Mobile is still using its aws frequency and at&t is using 850 and 1900 frequency. For its lte its using 700mhz. Just like Verizon.
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Is it possible to flash the HTC sensation to Verizon

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Don't live in the US but don't Verizon use LTE and CDMA and T-Mobile USA use HSPA + which is GSM?
So I assume the actual hardware would be different which means you couldn't just flash the Sensation to Verizon?

Jar curious because I'm getting one for free
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I have not heard of a CDMA Sensation, so my answer on this question would be a no, as the Sensation is traditionally a GSM device.

No. Not possible at all.
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k0zmic said:
Don't live in the US but don't Verizon use LTE and CDMA and T-Mobile USA use HSPA + which is GSM?
So I assume the actual hardware would be different which means you couldn't just flash the Sensation to Verizon?
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+1. The Sensation is a GSM device. Verizon uses CDMA.

Nop sensation is gsm verizion is cdma

Thanks I got one for free but I'm with Verizon
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IDK
I have an HTC Thunderbolt which has a SIM card for verizon 4g LTE and I have a sensation 4g (t-mobile) i got used for a steal and I can put my sim card in the sensation. the previous posts dont help me because Im a noob and am confused
Please help

Doesn't matter if you can put the sim card from Verizon into the Sensation, it's not going to work. The Sensation does not use LTE, so an LTE sim isn't going to work.

ok, thank you. Can I unlock it or will it still not work?

RomManager88 said:
ok, thank you. Can I unlock it or will it still not work?
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No. It depends on hardware, not software Simply answer: Sorry, but no

HTC Merge on T-Mobile?

So as of tonight I bought a HTC Merge on ebay. Is it gonna be able to work on T-Mobile at all. I ddon't care about it being edge. I just want it to work because its a bad ass phone. I really love this phone and can't wait for it. But I wanna use it. I Googled it. And it has the frequencies match for edge. Please let me know.
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I found root and s off for it. Which is a plus. And a few roms aand unlock codes.
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Yeah. it should. It's only going to be EDGE though. So, don't be shocked, and it's also got a single core 800mhz processor.

that's not bad. Its comparable to the G2. And yeah edge. Was expecting that. my only phones right now are currently edge. I'm use to it now. I have wifi at home and work. Do you know of anyone who's using a us cellular merge with T-Mobile
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And is it possible to do software wise. Or would I have to get the code via blowfish Unlocks?
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Well. I got my Merge unlocked and rooted. And it just says no service. So does anyone know of something that can mod it to work?
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You're gonna have to ask some Merge experts on that. Surely theres something special you have to do because its provisioned as a CDMA phone by default. You probably have to do something for it to recognize your SIM properly for GSM.

Probably. Honestly. I found one on Craigslist that the dude was running on tmobile and I tried to find it just about an hour ago and now I can't. So I couldn't ask him. But I tried to contact one guy who was in the merge dev. Or at least he was
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mddcflimsreal said:
that's not bad. Its comparable to the G2. And yeah edge. Was expecting that. my only phones right now are currently edge. I'm use to it now. I have wifi at home and work. Do you know of anyone who's using a us cellular merge with T-Mobile
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It IS the G2...
The G2, Desire Z, Vanguard, and Merge is actually called "HTC Vision". But the Merge never had the Z hinge that the G2 and Desire Z had. But that's why they all have the 2nd Gen 800Mhz Snapdragon.
The thing about the Merge is, it was meant to be the HTC Vision for Verizon, but Verizon never let it be released in their stores. I think US Cellular has it right now though, and it is completely compatible with Verizon's network. So the Merge is like the long lost brother of the G2 and Desire Z.
Anyways to answer your question, your HTC Merge will be able to be serviced under T-Mobile (and even At&t) according to phonescoop.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=2905
CDMA 850 / 1900
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
WCDMA 2100
I really like how it has both GSM AND CDMA radios
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I remember on my cousin's Droid 2 Global, have you tried to go to Settings and Wireless settings and then you had to change something from like "CDMA only" or "GSM only"?

Yeah I tried my att sim. It says no service. I have the u.s cellular one. Temp rooted with visionary. I sim unlocked it too
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And I did GSM/ umts dual. Then selected GSM only.
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Was there an option to deactivate CDMA or EVDO completely?

Yeah I did *#*#4636#*#* and did GSM only. Then hit menu. Then us frequency
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I found root and s off for it. Which is a plus. And a few roms aand unlock codes.
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A rom might be nice. I'm only temp rooted. Got a link? Id wonder if s-off root and a rom would do me well. I remember with my droid incredible 2 when I rooted it via revolutionary it worked on tmobile. I wish the merge was the same. I love the merge more
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And mine is sim unlocked. Temp rooted. Stock 2.2 us cellular rom. And now it doesn't say no service. It says emergency calls only.
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Please I hope someone who's an expert on the merge will read this and help me in my situation.
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I have one and I'm using a tmobile sim card, and everything works fine. Its the radio, you have to flash a different radio to get it working

What radio do you have to flash?
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R u serious? Its been like 4 months is your issue not fixed yet? I would've tried different apn settings.

(Q) Stuck on EDGE Unbranded Sensation

okay i have a Unbranded / unlocked HTC Sensation i just got it and i had 4g every thing was fine i put my friends simcard in to show him how it works and put mine back in now my 4g dont work not sure what to do im on TMOUS i am rooted and rommed

what rom what firmware
are you updated ?? if not here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1542555
need alot more then that

I'm on Android revolution HD 3.6.8 Android 2.3
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your link isn't working
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yeah think phone didnt copy here is link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542555

Franzferdinan51 said:
okay i have a Unbranded / unlocked HTC Sensation i just got it and i had 4g every thing was fine i put my friends simcard in to show him how it works and put mine back in now my 4g dont work not sure what to do im on TMOUS i am rooted and rommed
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Did you check your apn settings? May be they got screwed after changing the sim
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craven667 said:
yeah think phone didnt copy here is link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542555
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I think that's not what he wants ...he just want to solve his 4g problem .updating his phone to ics might fix the issue buy he might not want to update his phone yet
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okay i updated to MIUI 4.0.3 android updated the
Firmware too 3.32
and my radio is
rom the 2.08.401.1 RUU:
11.59.3504.00U_11.16.3504.16
i got the radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178143
and the firmware from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
after updating im still stuck on edge ive tried everything but now im out of 4g data any1 know how to tell besides going and putting an entire new card on cuz i cant do that until tuesday

Did it have 4 g at one time ?? Did u buy a non USA model ? Not sure why you took sim out and u had 4 g now u don't what sim did u put in att tmob have u Reyes a diffent sim from tmob
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i switched to prepaid tmobile sim from a real tmo simcard rebooted and also it may be my APN TMO says that shouldnt be an issue but idk if its us model i got it from craigslist a few months back and it worked fine until yesterday
how do i reset them my apn reads
Name
T-Mobile US
APN
epc.tmobile.com
Proxy not set
username
none
has a password but its stared out
server
*
MMSC http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
mms proxy
not set
MMS port
not set
MMC
310
MNC
260
authentication type
not set
APN type
default,supl,mms
APN protocol
IPv4
APN enable/disable
APN enabled
Bearer
Unspecified

No apn look like mine I had tmob and on simple mobile it could be your sim card
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okay ill just have to wait till i restart my plan to double check and if not ill have to have TMO send me a diff card or something i guess is there a way to check for a hardware malfunction

Well I think sim can control that why wait go to tmob store and get one free
And yeah you can have hardware problems but rare and I don't think you would have more then no 4g
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Just to be sure and check with you guys
This phone is the htc sensation z710a according to the box and gets the following bands amd frequency
HSPA/WCDMA
850/1900/2100 MHZ
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHZ
Are these the correct
Bands and frequency? Because I got the phone from htc ofc being UN branded I never thought to check hopefully one of you can ease my mind likeI said it used to work but I'm hoping its not a fluke
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That's what it says on my box are you a contract tmob customer with this phone on contract
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No I'm off contract but I ran out of 4g so ill get a new sim from Tmobile i have never had this problem so ill reset my account and get a new sim and see what's up
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Franzferdinan51 said:
Just to be sure and check with you guys
This phone is the htc sensation z710a according to the box and gets the following bands amd frequency
HSPA/WCDMA
850/1900/2100 MHZ
GSM/GPRS/EDGE
850/900/1800/1900 MHZ
Are these the correct
Bands and frequency? Because I got the phone from htc ofc being UN branded I never thought to check hopefully one of you can ease my mind likeI said it used to work but I'm hoping its not a fluke
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That's not the T Mous version, that's a Euro version which according to Google doesn't have correct bands for T Mous 4g. The T Mous one is htc sensation z710e.
Edit you are missing HSPA/WCDMA 1700 band which T Mous uses for 4g.
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I would let me know when u get it if you need one if there going to charge let me know I got one or eBay for 1$
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craven667 said:
I would let me know when u get it if you need one if there going to charge let me know I got one or eBay for 1$
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Seriously dude, how are you missing the fact that his phone doesn't have the correct band for T Mous 4g? SIM card won't change that, it's hardware related.
This amazon link shows the model and bands for T Mous Sensation 4g bands in case you don't believe me
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Sensation-Z710E-Unlocked-Smartphone/dp/B005345986
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Really I have a damn euro phone
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