Hi all
Just a quick question about the radio and flashing.
I understand that when a device is flashed to a custom ROM, that a radio is cooked in. (am I correct?)
Now my situation is this. I live in Australia, and am thinking of purchasing a 2nd hand Inspire 4G (AT&T) from the US, but from my research, due to the Inspire's (from AT&T) frequencies being 850/1900, this causes a small problem in Australia, where only telstra's NextG network operates on this band.
So in effect, I would be limited to NextG if I had this phone in Australia. the other major carrier here (optus) uses 900/2100.
Not a biggie right now as I use telstra nextg, but I may want to change.
So, question would be, when a phone is flashed, can I change the radio via the ROM, or is the frequencies a phone uses controlled by hardware?
thanks.
It's hardware mate.
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jbizz said:
It's hardware mate.
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thanks mate.
now to decide if its worth it.....can get one pretty cheap compared to here in Australia.
Check out tmobile I don't recall the bands they use but they sell the desire HD which is the Inspire 4G for them.
Edit: http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs
Looks like it is 900/2100
So now the question is, what provider will you stick to in Australia
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ajdrausal said:
Check out tmobile I don't recall the bands they use but they sell the desire HD which is the Inspire 4G for them.
Edit: http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs
Looks like it is 900/2100
So now the question is, what provider will you stick to in Australia
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Yeah its a tough decision ...I'm going to be moving soon to study, and where I'm going both carriers are good, but telstra is prob the dearest. Where I currently live needs telstra and I get a sim card through work (I use my own phone though)
So I basically need a 850 phone for 3 months then I can use whatever .......
I just bought one and I am on Telstra. I also have a desire hd. Inspire in my opinion is the best choice.
Inspire can still run on Optus. My missus uses it occasionally with no issues.
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whatta moron
bdpyo said:
whatta moron
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Well name calling is not nice.
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I'm still using my Dream/G1 now and want to get a new phone. I like HTC Android phone. So which one will actually work on T-Mobile's 3G/4G network? I look through GSMArena and find something I like. I just don't know which one will work and which one won't. Thanx alot
Here's a list on phone I'm interested. Experts please come in and give me some advise.
Incredible S
Inspire 4G
Desire S
Desire HD
Desire Z
Also, aside from HTC, which Android phone you guy suggest on T-Mobile network?
G2 is 4g on tmobile and has wifi calling or maybe mytouch 4g also
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I know the fact that the Inspire 4G doesn't work with T-Mobile. Will the Desire HD work with T-Mobile? I really like a 4" phone.
The MT4G has a 3.8'' screen and works with HSPA+.
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In England this month the HTC inspire is coming out, is there any differences between this and the 4G? Is it just the 4G that is gone? Will i be able to use all things on the developers forum without worrying that i will break the device? Thanks in advance guys!
carlos118 said:
In England this month the HTC inspire is coming out, is there any differences between this and the 4G? Is it just the 4G that is gone? Will i be able to use all things on the developers forum without worrying that i will break the device? Thanks in advance guys!
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Well *laughs* AT&T doesn't send 4G (HSPA+) through the Inspire 4G or the Atrix 4G. The only thing that you would need to watch out for is that most of the ROMs use AT&T radios so you would need to find a dev that will make radios for your carrier or you could just flash a radio that would work with your carrier and the ROM. That is how it works between the Bell Atrix and the AT&T Atrix.
Why would they release the inspire there? Dont they have the desire HD already? Its the same phone
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Why would they release the inspire there? Dont they have the desire HD already? Its the same phone
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I thought that because of the looks but the HD has a 1ghz single core vs 1.2 dual aswell as Bluetooth 3.0 vs 2.1 and has gingerbread with sense 3. I'd rather wait a few weeks and get the inspire. I would probably get the desire HD if there is problems with inspire and the inspire 4g roms.
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Well *laughs* AT&T doesn't send 4G (HSPA+) through the Inspire 4G or the Atrix 4G. The only thing that you would need to watch out for is that most of the ROMs use AT&T radios so you would need to find a dev that will make radios for your carrier or you could just flash a radio that would work with your carrier and the ROM. That is how it works between the Bell Atrix and the AT&T Atrix.
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Ummmm flashing a ROM in recovery won't change the radio. I've changed ROMs quite a few times and not once have I received a different radio and I'm NOT using the stock radio.
You sure the device will be called Inspire? From the specs you name and the release (dual core, in a few weeks) I could bet it's the Sensation / Pyramid pending how HTC / your carrier will name it on your side of the pond
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carlos118 said:
I thought that because of the looks but the HD has a 1ghz single core vs 1.2 dual aswell as Bluetooth 3.0 vs 2.1 and has gingerbread with sense 3. I'd rather wait a few weeks and get the inspire. I would probably get the desire HD if there is problems with inspire and the inspire 4g roms.
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Inspire 4g is just a desire HD without a front facing cam. You described the HTC sensation. Unless the euro name for the sensation is the inspire, in which case inspire 4g is different.
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Mustang302LX said:
Ummmm flashing a ROM in recovery won't change the radio. I've changed ROMs quite a few times and not once have I received a different radio and I'm NOT using the stock radio.
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I don't know what the Inspire Roms containt but I know that Captivate Roms sometimes will have a different radio. Some of them with HSUPA.
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I have read other threads about other roms and some ppl say that specific roms can deactivate 4g.How exactly do u know if it does.I know it seems like a dumb question but I am very new to 4g and have never used it before and I talked to my friend and he said that "there are dead spots" but it seems that every where is a deadspot so I'm not really sure
Ps..I'm using the RCMix 3D ROM
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mrmug said:
I have read other threads about other roms and some ppl say that specific roms can deactivate 4g.How exactly do u know if it does.I know it seems like a dumb question but I am very new to 4g and have never used it before and I talked to my friend and he said that "there are dead spots" but it seems that every where is a deadspot so I'm not really sure
Ps..I'm using the RCMix 3D ROM
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am yeah i believe so it does deactivate your 4g
Why does this happen.does tmobile or something know I rooted or what?
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No, Flashing a WWE ROM will not deactivate your "4G." You may notice an H icon instead of t-mobiles 4G icon. Its the same thing and your speeds should be the same as well.
lol. theres is no way to deactivate your 4g it is in your sim card meaning the service you sign up for, the only way to deactivate your 4g is to get rid of the phone or call you provider and ask fo a regular edge or 3g plan also just go into settings and turn your network to all edge but you have a 4g phone i dont even think its possibile to get a plan from tmobile without it being a 4g plan
uncheck mobile network from the pull down tab quick settings
Okay well thanks for your help guys I really appreciate it
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I had an HTC Amaze for about a week and then my wife wanted a smart phone too so I sold it to buy two HTC sensations. The only problem I am having now is that my service where I work is a lot worse with the sensation. I don't know if it is just the phone I have or if it would be the same with any sensation. I found a cheaper HTC Amaze on a craigslist type site here in salt lake and I am thinking of buying it, but I wanted some of your opinions. Should I try to root my sensation and see if with a different radio I get better service or should I buy the HTC Amaze. I have rooted phones before but then I become a flashaholic and I spend too much time on my phone. I like the size of the Sensation but if I don't want to root again would the Amaze be worth the extra hundred I would have to spend over the price I can sale my Sensation for? Your opions and thoughts would be very helpfull.
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Eddy
Sorry I probably should have posted this in Q&A.
It's. Hard to say because I have nevee used an Amaze and I haven't hhave any issues with my Sensation reception either, someone that have used both might be able to give you their insight.
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Try another radio, I've heard that can help if you have reception issues.
Personally, I would not change due to reception issues. You are not at work 24/7...
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depends on what phone you like better, i think u miss your old amaze lol
youve got nothing to lose just rooting and flashing another radio really
I don't think sensation is better than Amaze. Everthing is the same but Amaze hasa much much better camera => thumb up
amaze has more ram as well
You need to make sure your RIL file matches the radio you are using.With a matched RIL i get HSDPA signal at hom, without it i barely get EDGE.
go to Settings>About Phone>More>Baseband version (radio)
Then get the matching RIL HERE
Well I think that sensation wins
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The amaze has dual radios so it takes two connections at once resulting in a faster speed
i would have to say the amaze since i did experience some lag on the sensation when i had one.
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The amaze has dual radios so it takes two connections at once resulting in a faster speed
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T-Mobile only uses one hspa+ is still 3g. Only wimax and lte have two radios.
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Killbynature said:
T-Mobile only uses one hspa+ is still 3g. Only wimax and lte have two radios.
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Wrong, on both points.
T-Mobile uses dual channel HSPA+, which is essentially 2 21mbps radios slapped together.
And wimax does need dual radios, but LTE only needs 2 on Verizon. On AT&T, it'll all in one radio.
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Croandroid1996 said:
Well I think that sensation wins
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+1 The S4G has been rocken with all the great rom development on xda!
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+1 The S4G has been rocken with all the great rom development on xda!
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I thought croandroid was an idiot until this post. It really is all about the dev community. Good call.
The Sensation has AMAZING dev support. Has some REALLY talented folks cooking and coding for it, and in general is a great device.
I own a Sensation and my wife owns an Amaze....
I have had LOTS of problems with my sensation though, I've been through 3 sensations through tmobile, and even sent one to HTC to have it looked at. Phone has never been right for me.
Tmo has just issued me a replacement, it will be here monday, they are sending me an Amaze, not nearly the dev support for that phone, but at least i'll be able to have a running phone and able to make calls.
germz1986 said:
The Sensation has AMAZING dev support. Has some REALLY talented folks cooking and coding for it, and in general is a great device.
I own a Sensation and my wife owns an Amaze....
I have had LOTS of problems with my sensation though, I've been through 3 sensations through tmobile, and even sent one to HTC to have it looked at. Phone has never been right for me.
Tmo has just issued me a replacement, it will be here monday, they are sending me an Amaze, not nearly the dev support for that phone, but at least i'll be able to have a running phone and able to make calls.
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I went through the same thing with my g2x. When it worked it worked great. I ended up swapping it for the gs2 and its amazing. My gf still has her g2x we got at the same time and it random reboots.
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Wrong, on both points.
T-Mobile uses dual channel HSPA+, which is essentially 2 21mbps radios slapped together.
And wimax does need dual radios, but LTE only needs 2 on Verizon. On AT&T, it'll all in one radio.
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Combing two points is a dual cell. Which is one radio capable of dual channels. Other devices still get affected by the network. None of the other non lte or wimax devices improve non lte and wimax devices. Which are separate radios. Two radios slap together is still one radio.
I'm just wondering how at&t can put lte on one radio when a bigger company namely Verizon didn't do it either. T-Mobile is still using its aws frequency and at&t is using 850 and 1900 frequency. For its lte its using 700mhz. Just like Verizon.
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So as of tonight I bought a HTC Merge on ebay. Is it gonna be able to work on T-Mobile at all. I ddon't care about it being edge. I just want it to work because its a bad ass phone. I really love this phone and can't wait for it. But I wanna use it. I Googled it. And it has the frequencies match for edge. Please let me know.
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I found root and s off for it. Which is a plus. And a few roms aand unlock codes.
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Yeah. it should. It's only going to be EDGE though. So, don't be shocked, and it's also got a single core 800mhz processor.
that's not bad. Its comparable to the G2. And yeah edge. Was expecting that. my only phones right now are currently edge. I'm use to it now. I have wifi at home and work. Do you know of anyone who's using a us cellular merge with T-Mobile
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And is it possible to do software wise. Or would I have to get the code via blowfish Unlocks?
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Well. I got my Merge unlocked and rooted. And it just says no service. So does anyone know of something that can mod it to work?
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You're gonna have to ask some Merge experts on that. Surely theres something special you have to do because its provisioned as a CDMA phone by default. You probably have to do something for it to recognize your SIM properly for GSM.
Probably. Honestly. I found one on Craigslist that the dude was running on tmobile and I tried to find it just about an hour ago and now I can't. So I couldn't ask him. But I tried to contact one guy who was in the merge dev. Or at least he was
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that's not bad. Its comparable to the G2. And yeah edge. Was expecting that. my only phones right now are currently edge. I'm use to it now. I have wifi at home and work. Do you know of anyone who's using a us cellular merge with T-Mobile
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It IS the G2...
The G2, Desire Z, Vanguard, and Merge is actually called "HTC Vision". But the Merge never had the Z hinge that the G2 and Desire Z had. But that's why they all have the 2nd Gen 800Mhz Snapdragon.
The thing about the Merge is, it was meant to be the HTC Vision for Verizon, but Verizon never let it be released in their stores. I think US Cellular has it right now though, and it is completely compatible with Verizon's network. So the Merge is like the long lost brother of the G2 and Desire Z.
Anyways to answer your question, your HTC Merge will be able to be serviced under T-Mobile (and even At&t) according to phonescoop.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=2905
CDMA 850 / 1900
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
WCDMA 2100
I really like how it has both GSM AND CDMA radios
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I remember on my cousin's Droid 2 Global, have you tried to go to Settings and Wireless settings and then you had to change something from like "CDMA only" or "GSM only"?
Yeah I tried my att sim. It says no service. I have the u.s cellular one. Temp rooted with visionary. I sim unlocked it too
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And I did GSM/ umts dual. Then selected GSM only.
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Was there an option to deactivate CDMA or EVDO completely?
Yeah I did *#*#4636#*#* and did GSM only. Then hit menu. Then us frequency
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I found root and s off for it. Which is a plus. And a few roms aand unlock codes.
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A rom might be nice. I'm only temp rooted. Got a link? Id wonder if s-off root and a rom would do me well. I remember with my droid incredible 2 when I rooted it via revolutionary it worked on tmobile. I wish the merge was the same. I love the merge more
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And mine is sim unlocked. Temp rooted. Stock 2.2 us cellular rom. And now it doesn't say no service. It says emergency calls only.
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Please I hope someone who's an expert on the merge will read this and help me in my situation.
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I have one and I'm using a tmobile sim card, and everything works fine. Its the radio, you have to flash a different radio to get it working
What radio do you have to flash?
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R u serious? Its been like 4 months is your issue not fixed yet? I would've tried different apn settings.