GPS turns on automatically when phone is in car mount - Thunderbolt General

I would like the gps to not automatically turn on when i put my phone in the car mount.
I think it does this to speed up gps lock when i actually use the navigation.
But it slows down the charging on my phone when i just dock it.
any ideas besides either turning off gps completely or turning off the car app?
Ideally i would like the gps to only come on when i use the navagation app.
thx

If you are rooted, I believe you can remove the HTC Car app without any ill effects. Then I believe you can download Google's Car Home from the market (which doesn't auto-enable GPS).
If you want to perform functions when an app launches, I'd look into Tasker or some other automation application.

What dock are you guys even talking about? There's an official dock? Link?
Also, is there a way to show the Car Home / HTC dock apps besides searching for them in the Google toolbar?

Google's Car Home isn't available in the market even though you click on it. I went on the computer and tried to install it through Android Market on the web, but it says it's not compatible for the TB. Use Custom Car Home instead. I like it so far!

I'm running Das BAMF 1.4 which has the Google Car Home built-in. You could probably download the zip, extract the app and use that.

66dude said:
Google's Car Home isn't available in the market even though you click on it. I went on the computer and tried to install it through Android Market on the web, but it says it's not compatible for the TB. Use Custom Car Home instead. I like it so far!
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You can download the apk and sideload it without going through any market...works fine.

I have the car dock from verizon (windshield or dash mount) and before i was rooted it would automatically open htc car dock mode, which you could not exit out of while docked, but i dont think gps was turned on automatically.
Now with das bamf google car home is included, and there is no issue with gps turning on for me.
What rom are you using if any?

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Enabling GPS & Bluetooth with external power

Is it possible to turn Bluetooth & GPS on automatically whenever the phone is externally powered and off again when back to battery? That would be very convenient for car use.
Here is the program you want. I use it and it's great.
By the way, it only switches bluetooth on when charging. I don't know about GPS. You could check the Mortscript threads for that or request it there.
thanks, I've installed that, can't see it's doing anything though. But my phone is currently fully charged, so I'll wait a bit and have a look at Mortscript.

[Q] Android device cluster, networking or screen sharing

In short: Is it possible to cluster, network or push device output from one device to another, share storage devices and network/gps interfaces?
The long version: I have been wanting to build an in-car device that would store media and act as a gps and what not, but haven't found a way that I want to implement it yet. I was thinking if I found a x86 port of android, got most of the voice stuff working, I could have a headless device that I could store music on and use as navigation. I know the phones are capable of that, but if I want to keep say 500 gb of music on me, how does one do that?
My thoughts were if it were possible to either cluster or network an installed android powered unit to an android powered phone, I could always have network access from the unit in the car and share the gps from the phone, or have the phone access the storage from the device (not through dlna, but the music app seeing it as physical storage) and allow me to push the output from the in car device to the phone and let me interact with the system how ever I need to I could accomplish a form of in-car entertainment.
I figured that there could be apps written that would let the in-car device act as a headless unit, with its only interface being audio, it could store navigation directions/maps and what not, so if I didn't have the phone that day, I could still navigate to where I needed to. The phone and the device could constantly be in communication with each other if the car was parked by a wifi hotspot or something, so if I chose to navigate somewhere when I was at home, the car would already have the directions. I could also have it pull any media changes through wifi, and always have an updated media library.
I know the phones are fully capable of doing this, but for most of it, you have to have a window holster for the car to use the gps, and wires running for audio and charging and what not, but if there were a way that the in-car device could be hardwired to the audio system and left alone, the phone could stay in my pocked, be linked via bluetooth and I could have a small button-pad or something that would allow me to initiate google voice search, control the media player and interact with navigation. The whole thing with linking the phone and device together would be so the mobile network could be shared between android devices and the incar device could pull the information it needed. The thought of the display sharing was in case I needed to interact with the incar device.
I know what I am going on about is specific to me, but my thoughts behind it were if it were possible to do at least the network sharing (with out tethering or mobile hot spot blah blah blah) that android phone and tablet owners could do the same thing. They could share their mobile network through their tablet and have a tablet that would be always connected, would share mailboxes with the phone and basically act the way the Blackberry playbook is proposed or how the Palm Foleo was supposed to work. If the devices had a network ability of some level, the tablet could pull text messages, email messages, contacts or any other sync-able item.. That way, this wouldn't just be done for my benefit, but it would take tablet and phone owners to another league. Two devices that share the same information from one source and don't have to sync with the same servers twice. It would take a lot of redundancy out.
I hope you guys can see usefulness in my idea, and can shed some light for me.
Sorry from bringing this back from the dead, but since I never got any responses I'll add a bit more..
Does android have anything that would work like blackberry bridge between two android devices?
Droid Vnc server and androidvnc works fine for screen sharing. What I really like is the hpc aspects to CPU cycle sharing over wifi/nfc. Really interesting possibilities.
What I am looking for is to have the ability to use two separate android devices, but have them communicate via wifi/bluetooth or what ever and act as the same device in the sense that when the device with the data plan gets a text message or phone call, the notification goes through the other device that would be physically docked to audio equipment or what ever...
I have a Droid X, Droid Incredible, Droid Pro and a first gen Droid laying around.. Currently the Droid Pro is my in use phone.. The rest are just laying here. I want to be able to dock one of the others in my car, turn the GPS on, link it to my droid pro and have the other phone use the droid pro's active data connection for guidance/searches etc, and it would be docked to car audio, so it would need to access the pro's sd card, and have access to the pro's phone audio, or the ability to route calls from the pro to the other device via bluetooth or whatever, not by call forwarding.. This way it would be a sort of infotainment/telematics system..
Think of the possibilities this would open up for android tablets etc. If You could reply to text messages from your tablet because the tablet is linked/bridged to the phone in your pocket... That would make these tablet/laptop combos more appealing because it would the perfect convergence between tablet and phone.
Oh, and I guess, the other thing is that I have multiple cars, so one device would go in each car, and then when I got in the car, the one in that car would link with my phone, and everything would be the same, car to car, or device to device...
I guess another way to bump this:
Would it be possible for an app to do ADB to ADB via bluetooth or something, because then an app could be written like pdanet that would allow the network to be shared at least?
I dont remember the name of the app I think the name of it is Dashboard? and it will store/push all texts/emails etc. to every device u have dashboard installed on...Best buy has an app kinda like that too...Like the Idea of the screen sharing is that kinda like remote desktop/control?
I just search how to neywork cluster android came across your post ..... if you use the Google apps like Google play music/maps as well Google hangouts since with Google voice you can easily do what you want with out the need for both devices being together you can upload 50000 songs 9n play music for free and any device with ur hangouts and voice will receive ur calls and email notifications .....just need to make sure have Internet

Mk808b + usb gps

Hi All, has anyone had any success in getting android devices such as the MK808B to work with external GPS devices such as the Prolific PL2303? Desperately trying to find a way to support it so that I may use one to make a car PC. So if anyone can help / advise me how to install drivers and get it recognised in copilot I would be extremely grateful. Thanks
Dave
hotrodder said:
Hi All, has anyone had any success in getting android devices such as the MK808B to work with external GPS devices such as the Prolific PL2303? Desperately trying to find a way to support it so that I may use one to make a car PC. So if anyone can help / advise me how to install drivers and get it recognised in copilot I would be extremely grateful. Thanks
Dave
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Why not use a bluetooth GPS? £8 on ebay.
gloscherrybomb said:
Why not use a bluetooth GPS? £8 on ebay.
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I did try this using my android phone and a few apps that share your phone GPS as a bluetooth GPS but couldnt get it recognized by copilot. Id definately be open to this if i can get it recognized in there. Currently im using an archos 80 G9 tablet as my car PC, but want to switch to this mini pc for better performance and a better mounting option for in the dash - so my aim is to get GPS and a HDMI / USB touchscreen (such as an egalax screen) working. Then its a go. Ill then probably turn my hand to application development (my day to day job) to come up with the best option user interface wise and will happily share all the information and software i develop with the community.
MK808B + CoPilot (GlobalSat BT-359)
I am able to use MK808B + CoPilot (GlobalSat BT-359) with the help of a mock GPS provider app (Blutooth GPS). GoogleMaps \ Sygic are both working perfect.
I am also looking for a HDMI/USB touch screen for it, any update on this?
hotrodder said:
I did try this using my android phone and a few apps that share your phone GPS as a bluetooth GPS but couldnt get it recognized by copilot. Id definately be open to this if i can get it recognized in there. Currently im using an archos 80 G9 tablet as my car PC, but want to switch to this mini pc for better performance and a better mounting option for in the dash - so my aim is to get GPS and a HDMI / USB touchscreen (such as an egalax screen) working. Then its a go. Ill then probably turn my hand to application development (my day to day job) to come up with the best option user interface wise and will happily share all the information and software i develop with the community.
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I plan to get one of these once the GPS side of things is working, so ill crack on and try what you suggest. Thanks
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110659968637?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Ok, got a copilot branded BT GPS device, and its recognised and seems to be working with some apps - but not the one i want the most, copilot. It just states its unable to register for GPS updates, which sucks!
hotrodder said:
Ok, got a copilot branded BT GPS device, and its recognised and seems to be working with some apps - but not the one i want the most, copilot. It just states its unable to register for GPS updates, which sucks!
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I have one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Dual-Electron...p/B006M49G80/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=136138107
I use it w/out issue w/Google Maps, so I'll drop co-pilot on and see how it works out.
The rest of my CarPC setup:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806078
whats77inaname said:
I have one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Dual-Electron...p/B006M49G80/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=136138107
I use it w/out issue w/Google Maps, so I'll drop co-pilot on and see how it works out.
The rest of my CarPC setup:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=806078
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I contacted the makers of Co-pilot and they said they dont support external GPS receivers. I have both the bluetooth and USB receivers but I think for co-pilot to support them I'd need to get to be recognised as the inbuilt GPS receiver. Co-pilot tells me its unable to register for GPS requests - but other apps _seem_ to work, but currently all my testing is done on a PC monitor, so its hard to hit the road and see if its actually working. I currently have an archos G9 80 built into my Jag XK8 and im so pleased with the functionality - but not so much with the GPS support (can be hit and miss) and with the mounting. Prior to that i had a windows PC, but that was much worse of an installation.

[Q] Trusted Bluetooth device

Hello everyone, just moved from a Nexus 5 and enjoying many of the unique features, one thing that interests me most is the ability to unlock the phone with a trusted Bluetooth device. I already have a fitbit, so was hoping I could use this, however it turns out you can't, I think it is due to the way Bluetooth 4 is designed to minimise battery drain and it therefore not always connected. I was wondering what other people use , other than say speakers and headphones. I know Motorola have a device planned, but hasn't been released yet.
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Hello everyone, just moved from a Nexus 5 and enjoying many of the unique features, one thing that interests me most is the ability to unlock the phone with a trusted Bluetooth device. I already have a fitbit, so was hoping I could use this, however it turns out you can't, I think it is due to the way Bluetooth 4 is designed to minimise battery drain and it therefore not always connected. I was wondering what other people use , other than say speakers and headphones. I know Motorola have a device planned, but hasn't been released yet.
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HX550 earpeace is the only thing I have used. The Moto 360 is the coolest option - but an expensive one. I understand the new micro power-bank is like your fitbit and doesn't do the trick.
I actually have the Power Pack Micro that I use as a trusted device. Works perfectly!
Thanks for the replies, I never knew about the power pack micro, think that is what I will go for, hopefully Motorola will release it in the UK soon.
I connected mine to my desktop PC. Tried it for a bit and it was a cool idea, except that when connected to it the sound would go through the headsets plugged in to the PC. If I tried disabling the audio connection through properties on the PC the phone would disconnect. I couldn't find a way to keep it connected without audio so I ended up removing it.
Would be nice if there was a WiFi option, then I could pair it with that. For now I guess I'll just live without.
cbsevenfifty said:
I connected mine to my desktop PC. Tried it for a bit and it was a cool idea, except that when connected to it the sound would go through the headsets plugged in to the PC. If I tried disabling the audio connection through properties on the PC the phone would disconnect. I couldn't find a way to keep it connected without audio so I ended up removing it.
Would be nice if there was a WiFi option, then I could pair it with that. For now I guess I'll just live without.
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Have a look at Skiplock in the play store. I have been using that in the meantime, it works much the same as the trusted devices, but also does wifi. I have it set up with my home wifi network so when my phone is in the house I don't need to put the unlock code into the phone, does Bluetooth as well, just need to get myself one of those power pack micro now...
Advanced Keyguard Manager also let's you bypass the lockscreen based on WiFi connection.
cbsevenfifty said:
I connected mine to my desktop PC. Tried it for a bit and it was a cool idea, except that when connected to it the sound would go through the headsets plugged in to the PC. If I tried disabling the audio connection through properties on the PC the phone would disconnect. I couldn't find a way to keep it connected without audio so I ended up removing it.
Would be nice if there was a WiFi option, then I could pair it with that. For now I guess I'll just live without.
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Wifi trusted areas is supposed to come as part of Android L I believe.
You cant use it with your fitbit because it doesnt pair, it only uses bluetooth to sync to the app occasionally. It doesnt have anything to do with BT 4.0 afaik.
The only trusted device I use is my car.
Celeras said:
You cant use it with your fitbit because it doesnt pair, it only uses bluetooth to sync to the app occasionally. It doesnt have anything to do with BT 4.0 afaik.
The only trusted device I use is my car.
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Thanks for the info Celeras, that makes perfect sense.
pseudopsyche said:
I actually have the Power Pack Micro that I use as a trusted device. Works perfectly!
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Is there a way to quickly/easily lock the phone when using this? I'd like to do the same, but wonder about the security if someone steals both my phone and my keys -- the phone's power button won't lock the device if the trusted bluetooth is nearby.
Is it possible, for example, to use the button on the Power Pack Micro to disconnect or lock the device? Or is there some quick way to re-enable the PIN using the phone itself? It would presumably be easy with a Moto 360 or a BT headset -- just turn the BT device off, and the connection will be broken. But it's not clear that the Power Pack Micro can be turned off or disconnected without going through the Moto Connect app.
Thanks!
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Is there a way to quickly/easily lock the phone when using this? I'd like to do the same, but wonder about the security if someone steals both my phone and my keys -- the phone's power button won't lock the device if the trusted bluetooth is nearby.
Is it possible, for example, to use the button on the Power Pack Micro to disconnect or lock the device? Or is there some quick way to re-enable the PIN using the phone itself? It would presumably be easy with a Moto 360 or a BT headset -- just turn the BT device off, and the connection will be broken. But it's not clear that the Power Pack Micro can be turned off or disconnected without going through the Moto Connect app.
Thanks!
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You can quickly lock the screen from the notification shade...there is a persistent notification at the top of the shade saying you're unlocked, and and if you tap it, it locks and stays locked until the next time you unlock it from the PIN/Pattern/PW lockscreen. You could also quickly unlocked it by turning off whatever device you are using as a trusted BT device. The Power Pack Micro has a power button you can turn it off with.
I've got so many things I use as Trusted Devices:
Moto 360
Moto Hint
Power Pack Micro
BT stereo headphones (Bluebuds X)
BT speakers at my work desk
BT HR monitor while at the gym
My cars Sync system
Cobra Tag - this one is really cool device, like the Power Pack it tethers your phone and lets you page it the phone if you've misplaced it, but goes one step further - if you get too far from your phone, both the phone and the Cobra Tag sound an alarm. Great for making sure you don't walk away from a restaurant or home or wherever with your keys in your pocket but the phone left behind (or vice versa). the Power Pack doesn't do that tethering alarm.
To your original concern, if someone walks off with both your BT device and your phone, you're screwed, unless you have time to get on Android Device Manager and remotely lock the phone.
Wow, you have a lot of devices, unfortunately the Motorola powerpack micro is not available in the UK yet, hopefully it will arrive soon.

Android Auto

Hi,
Did somebody try to use an android auto function? My car (Peugeot 308SW 2018) and the phone not connecting with latest (8.1.0) android version. I tried to enable an USB debugging (as workaround recommendation), but nothing changed...
Have you other idea or working solution?
thx!
rawen69 said:
Hi,
Did somebody try to use an android auto function? My car (Peugeot 308SW 2018) and the phone not connecting with latest (8.1.0) android version. I tried to enable an USB debugging (as workaround recommendation), but nothing changed...
Have you other idea or working solution?
thx!
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Yes, it works perfectly in my mid 2017 Kia Cee'd SW. Check if you have android auto enabled(i have the option to disable it and the apple car play). Also, the usb cable is working properly when connecting to a pc?
At the car side is enabled, at phone side i didnt found any additional options...
The best result was the android auto icon at phone appears and disappears continously with 2-3 different cables.
Is it possible the car head unit firmware not compatible with N7P latest SW version?
rawen69 said:
At the car side is enabled, at phone side i didnt found any additional options...
The best result was the android auto icon at phone appears and disappears continously with 2-3 different cables.
Is it possible the car head unit firmware not compatible with N7P latest SW version?
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Doubt it. The car is from this year, it seems unlikely(to me) that the firmware wasn't up to date.
Stupid question, you have the android auto app installed on the phone right? Android has a Car Mode but to use android auto you need to install the app 1st(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.projection.gearhead&hl=en). If the link says that you have no compatible device, download the latest version from here(https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-auto/)
For almost a year I thought my head-unit wasn't up to date as the android auto would freeze, the app would say that the head-unit wasn't up to date, waze would display random artefacts, etc.
Now with the N7p it is butter smooth, no funky stuff and way more responsive that when I was trying to use it with my Redmi 4 Prime(same cable but with a micro-b to usb c adapter)...
No issues with AA in Seat Ateca 2018.
Everything works like a charm.
For phonecalls, you need to select default sim first, otherwise the call hangs on a sim selection prompt on the phone.
I write to nokia support and they send:
- clear the bluetooth cache
- do a soft reset
after this steps working fine...
what is Bluetooth cache?
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what is Bluetooth cache?
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You found here, how to clear: http://support.hereplus.me/hc/en-us/articles/115003497328-Clearing-your-Bluetooth-Cache-Android-/
Do you install android auto app on your smartphone ? some lands doesn't have android auto on the play store, so you need to download manually on apk mirror web site (arm64 version)
A good quality cable is also needed.
I'm having similar issues.
This phone won't work in both my VW cars.
If I clear all settings it works fine.
I get to my destination, unplug and then when I head out on my next trip it doesn't. Just a blank screen on the head unit and the phone has the green screen saying launch Android Auto on the head unit.
Tried the BT cache clearing as above. Will try a factory reset of the phone shortly too otherwise wait for pie and if still no go then sell the phone which I will miss
Though can't work without Android Auto now
It is definitely problem with Nokia 7 plus. In my car it connect and after few minutes black screen and solution is only disconnect and connect again.
matonka007 said:
It is definitely problem with Nokia 7 plus. In my car it connect and after few minutes black screen and solution is only disconnect and connect again.
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I've found the bluetooth with my N7P poor anyway. This is my second one and the same as the first.
All HMD will do is send you a list of the bluetooth protocols they support.
So you may need to change your car ?
My 7+ works perfectly now.
Enable USB debugging and disable the extreme power saving settings.

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